RV-List Digest Archive

Fri 01/21/05


Total Messages Posted: 19



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:04 AM - Re: wing skin overlap (Gary Zilik)
     2. 07:49 AM - Re: wing skin overlap (Dave Bergh)
     3. 09:03 AM - Re: Gascolator (SCOTT SPENCER)
     4. 09:05 AM - Re: Dynon ramblings (Bob J)
     5. 09:46 AM - Re: Dynon ramblings (Randy Lervold)
     6. 11:34 AM - Electric flaps on an RV4 (PGLong@aol.com)
     7. 12:45 PM - Fuel Injection  (Jerry Grimmonpre)
     8. 12:47 PM - Re: Electric flaps on an RV4 (smoothweasel@juno.com)
     9. 01:26 PM - Re: Electric flaps on an RV4 (Scott Vanartsdalen)
    10. 01:32 PM - Re: Fuel Injection  (Skylor Piper)
    11. 01:40 PM - Re: Fuel Injection  (Skylor Piper)
    12. 01:49 PM - Re: Fuel Injection  (Scott Bilinski)
    13. 01:55 PM - Re: Fuel Injection  (James E. Clark)
    14. 02:04 PM - Re: Fuel Injection  (James E. Clark)
    15. 02:36 PM - Re: Fuel Injection  (J. Rion Bourgeois)
    16. 02:36 PM - Re: Fuel Injection  (Dave Bergh)
    17. 03:09 PM - FS: Dyna II RV-8 Engine mount (CBRxxDRV@aol.com)
    18. 05:02 PM - Re: Fuel Injection (John Huft)
    19. 11:18 PM - test (Jim Jewell)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:04:27 AM PST US
    From: Gary Zilik <zilik@excelgeo.com>
    Subject: Re: wing skin overlap
    --> RV-List message posted by: Gary Zilik <zilik@excelgeo.com> Mike Nellis posted some good pictures of what the overlap looks like once the trimming is done. I think I trimmed both top and bottom but there is really no need to trim the bottom. The skin is trimmed on the top mainly for cosmetic reasons. GZ Dave Bergh wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dave Bergh" <dbergh@starband.net> > > Hello all, > I am trying to get my punch list of items done before final riveting of my RV-6 wing skins. I am trying to decide if I am supposed to trim overlapping wing skins at the trailing edge in the flap area on both top and bottom or just the bottom where the flap brace attaches? As far as I can tell on the plans it only shows the bottom skins being trimmed but i seem to recall seeing comments from some who had done top and bottom. Comments. Also where did you place the holes for the wiring conduit and what size holes (conduit)? > Dave Bergh > Mtn Home, ID > RV-6 Slowwwww build! > >


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    Time: 07:49:52 AM PST US
    From: "Dave Bergh" <dbergh@starband.net>
    Subject: Re: wing skin overlap
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dave Bergh" <dbergh@starband.net> Thanks to all who cleared this up for me. In looking deeper I found that the 'SK 46' drawing I got with the wing kit contradicts the same sketch that was in my set of preview plans. The moral of the story- look at both sets of sketches when in doubt. Lesson learned! Dave Bergh RV-6 Wings Mountain Home, ID ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Zilik" <zilik@excelgeo.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: wing skin overlap > --> RV-List message posted by: Gary Zilik <zilik@excelgeo.com> > > Mike Nellis posted some good pictures of what the overlap looks like > once the trimming is done. I think I trimmed both top and bottom but > there is really no need to trim the bottom. The skin is trimmed on the > top mainly for cosmetic reasons. > > GZ > > Dave Bergh wrote: > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dave Bergh" <dbergh@starband.net> > > > > Hello all, > > I am trying to get my punch list of items done before final riveting of my RV-6 wing skins. I am trying to decide if I am supposed to trim overlapping wing skins at the trailing edge in the flap area on both top and bottom or just the bottom where the flap brace attaches? As far as I can tell on the plans it only shows the bottom skins being trimmed but i seem to recall seeing comments from some who had done top and bottom. Comments. Also where did you place the holes for the wiring conduit and what size holes (conduit)? > > Dave Bergh > > Mtn Home, ID > > RV-6 Slowwwww build! > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:03:50 AM PST US
    From: SCOTT SPENCER <aerokinetic@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Gascolator
    --> RV-List message posted by: SCOTT SPENCER <aerokinetic@sbcglobal.net> Gascolators don't have to be mounted forward of the firewall... I'n fact many claim that this is unsafe (including me) -especially when they are mounted low and could impact the ground in a crash or nose-over. Having firesleeved hoses up there is one thing, and there's no way around it -but why put a little container of fuel up there when you don't have to? There is also more heat ahead of the firewall, which makes the gascolator in such mounting locations a sort of fuel heater -unless there's a blast tube directed at it. Some manufacturers mount them in the belly... I'm thinking for the moment of Piper Commanches and Twin Commanches... and my RV-4 (where it's mounted in the area adjacent to the fuel selector and has a drain out the belly via a short hose and flush drain -actually it hangs right from the fuel selector). At any rate what you have is a fuel filter essentially -but one with a bowl that will catch water and other heavy stuff and hold it for future draining from the system -a good idea if you ask me.... -but not to hang down low from the firewall. Common sense says that it should be mounted at the lowest possible point in the system so that all the water and other heavies end up in it and not trapped in a low point at some hose or line (read the posts on freezing fuel lines). My fuel lines slope up evenly to the selector from the tanks and any water should settle to either the tank sump or the gascolator. Ahead of the gascolator the lines slope up to the engine with no low points along the way -which is helped even more by on the ground when the plane is sitting on it's tail. I put a lot of thought into it when I designed the install and I've never had a problem. I'm confident all the water in my fuel system -if there ever is any... is in one of three sumps... My 2 American cents worth... Scott N4ZW


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    Time: 09:05:29 AM PST US
    From: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Dynon ramblings
    --> RV-List message posted by: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com> Hi Todd, Have you done any sort of detailed testing to see what the actual differences are between the PSS AOA and the Dynon? I would be interested in seeing what indicated differences there are during stall at more than 1G, of if the Dynon will show changes in AOA during gusty conditions. Regards, Bob Japundza RV-6 flying F1 under const. On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 01:34:00 -0800, Todd Bartrim <haywire@telus.net> wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim" <haywire@telus.net> > The AOA works great as well. I also have the PSS AOA system installed and I > find that the Dynon AOA system tracks it very closely. > Todd Bartrim > > RV9Endurance > 13B Turbo Rotary > C-FSTB


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    Time: 09:46:19 AM PST US
    From: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com>
    Subject: Re: Dynon ramblings
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com> And also what about flaps-up flaps-down differences? The PSS units have a switch that takes that provides that info the the brain, and you do a calibration with and without flaps. Randy Lervold RV-3B, fuselage From: "Bob J" <rocketbob@gmail.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Dynon ramblings > --> RV-List message posted by: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com> > > Hi Todd, > > Have you done any sort of detailed testing to see what the actual > differences are between the PSS AOA and the Dynon? I would be > interested in seeing what indicated differences there are during stall > at more than 1G, of if the Dynon will show changes in AOA during gusty > conditions. > > Regards, > Bob Japundza > RV-6 flying F1 under const. > > > On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 01:34:00 -0800, Todd Bartrim <haywire@telus.net> wrote: > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Todd Bartrim" <haywire@telus.net> > > > The AOA works great as well. I also have the PSS AOA system installed and I > > find that the Dynon AOA system tracks it very closely. > > Todd Bartrim > > > > RV9Endurance


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    Time: 11:34:56 AM PST US
    From: PGLong@aol.com
    Subject: Electric flaps on an RV4
    --> RV-List message posted by: PGLong@aol.com Does anyone have any pictures of the conversion to Van's electric flaps on an RV4? Torn rotor cuff and getting wider makes this sound like something I would like to do. Any others with comments to this conversion would be appreciated. Thanks........ Pat Long PGLong@aol.com N120PL RV4 Bay City, Michigan 3CM


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    Time: 12:45:29 PM PST US
    From: "Jerry Grimmonpre" <jerry@mc.net>
    Subject: Fuel Injection
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" <jerry@mc.net> For those with far more experience out there ... Question: What are the Lycoming/Air Flow Performance fuel injection requirements? What are the GPH flow requirements What is the pressure output requirement for a FI pump? There are many Holley pumps on eBay disclaiming their use with fuel injection ... There are a few Weldon pumps as well, some costing nearly as much as AFP ... Is there a cost effective and safe way to provide needed fuel supply using AFP throttle body? Trying to put together a shopping list ... Thanks Jerry Grimmonpre 7A


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    Time: 12:47:00 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Electric flaps on an RV4
    From: smoothweasel@juno.com
    --> RV-List message posted by: smoothweasel@juno.com > an RV4? Torn rotor cuff and getting wider makes this sound like > something I > would like to do. Any others with comments to this conversion would > be > appreciated. > Thanks........ > Pat look in the archives. You will see a lot of dicuthion on this issue. Personaly I love my electric flaps and have had no problem with them but you will find that some have a different oppinion. Weasel -4 (125hr for sale)


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    Time: 01:26:53 PM PST US
    From: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Electric flaps on an RV4
    --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com> I converted from electric flaps back to manual. But my shoulder works OK so going to manual wasn't an issue. I liked my electric flaps but I had problems with the motors. The first motor stopped working. They told me to clean the motor which I tried and destroyed. My fault. I bought a new motor and installed it. It worked fine for about a month and then it started smoking! Last thing I want under my but is a hot motor. That was the last straw. I ripped it all out and went manual. That being said there are quite a few RV-4's flying with no problems with their flap motors. That's just my experience. PGLong@aol.com wrote: --> RV-List message posted by: PGLong@aol.com Does anyone have any pictures of the conversion to Van's electric flaps on an RV4? Torn rotor cuff and getting wider makes this sound like something I would like to do. Any others with comments to this conversion would be appreciated. Thanks........ Pat Long PGLong@aol.com N120PL RV4 Bay City, Michigan 3CM -- Scott VanArtsdalen RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!! When a man does all he can though it succeeds not well, blame not him that did it." -- George Washington


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    Time: 01:32:20 PM PST US
    From: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Injection
    --> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com> Lycoming specifies a minimum boost pump pressure of 14 psi at max fuel flow, and a maximum of 35 psi for the boost pump. The boost pump for an IO-360 should be capable of at least 18-20 GPM for an IO-360. One thing to keep in mind about the Airflow performance pump package, as purchased from Van's: It includes the fuel pump, bypass check valve, and pressure relief valve, all assembled together. It also includes a fuel filter, and mounting hardware for the pump and filter. Keep in mind that you will need all of these items for other pump setups. In my opinion, all of these items make the Van's airflow performance pump package not such a bad deal after all, and you know that it will work. Skylor RV-8 QB Under Construction --- Jerry Grimmonpre <jerry@mc.net> wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" > <jerry@mc.net> > > For those with far more experience out there ... > > Question: What are the Lycoming/Air Flow > Performance fuel injection > requirements? > > What are the GPH flow requirements > > What is the pressure output requirement for a FI > pump? > > There are many Holley pumps on eBay disclaiming > their use with fuel > injection ... > > There are a few Weldon pumps as well, some costing > nearly as much as AFP ... > > Is there a cost effective and safe way to provide > needed fuel supply using > AFP throttle body? > Trying to put together a shopping list ... > > Thanks > Jerry Grimmonpre > 7A > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > __________________________________ http://my.yahoo.com


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    Time: 01:40:04 PM PST US
    From: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Injection
    --> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com> Oops... I meant to say 20 GPH, not GPM! --- Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com> wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper > <skylor4@yahoo.com> > > Lycoming specifies a minimum boost pump pressure of > 14 > psi at max fuel flow, and a maximum of 35 psi for > the > boost pump. The boost pump for an IO-360 should be > capable of at least 18-20 GPM for an IO-360. > > One thing to keep in mind about the Airflow > performance pump package, as purchased from Van's: > It > includes the fuel pump, bypass check valve, and > pressure relief valve, all assembled together. It > also includes a fuel filter, and mounting hardware > for > the pump and filter. Keep in mind that you will > need > all of these items for other pump setups. In my > opinion, all of these items make the Van's airflow > performance pump package not such a bad deal after > all, and you know that it will work. > > Skylor > RV-8 QB Under Construction > > > --- Jerry Grimmonpre <jerry@mc.net> wrote: > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" > > <jerry@mc.net> > > > > For those with far more experience out there ... > > > > Question: What are the Lycoming/Air Flow > > Performance fuel injection > > requirements? > > > > What are the GPH flow requirements > > > > What is the pressure output requirement for a FI > > pump? > > > > There are many Holley pumps on eBay disclaiming > > their use with fuel > > injection ... > > > > There are a few Weldon pumps as well, some costing > > nearly as much as AFP ... > > > > Is there a cost effective and safe way to provide > > needed fuel supply using > > AFP throttle body? > > Trying to put together a shopping list ... > > > > Thanks > > Jerry Grimmonpre > > 7A > > > > > > > > Contributions > > any other > > Forums. > > > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > http://my.yahoo.com > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > __________________________________


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    Time: 01:49:05 PM PST US
    From: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Injection
    --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com> I would not even think of looking at a pump that puts out less than 25 GPH minimum. By the way, I have also looked in this direction and stayed with the AFP pump assy. At 01:31 PM 1/21/2005 -0800, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com> > >Lycoming specifies a minimum boost pump pressure of 14 >psi at max fuel flow, and a maximum of 35 psi for the >boost pump. The boost pump for an IO-360 should be >capable of at least 18-20 GPM for an IO-360. > >One thing to keep in mind about the Airflow >performance pump package, as purchased from Van's: It >includes the fuel pump, bypass check valve, and >pressure relief valve, all assembled together. It >also includes a fuel filter, and mounting hardware for >the pump and filter. Keep in mind that you will need >all of these items for other pump setups. In my >opinion, all of these items make the Van's airflow >performance pump package not such a bad deal after >all, and you know that it will work. > >Skylor >RV-8 QB Under Construction > > >--- Jerry Grimmonpre <jerry@mc.net> wrote: > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" > > <jerry@mc.net> > > > > For those with far more experience out there ... > > > > Question: What are the Lycoming/Air Flow > > Performance fuel injection > > requirements? > > > > What are the GPH flow requirements > > > > What is the pressure output requirement for a FI > > pump? > > > > There are many Holley pumps on eBay disclaiming > > their use with fuel > > injection ... > > > > There are a few Weldon pumps as well, some costing > > nearly as much as AFP ... > > > > Is there a cost effective and safe way to provide > > needed fuel supply using > > AFP throttle body? > > Trying to put together a shopping list ... > > > > Thanks > > Jerry Grimmonpre > > 7A > > > > > > > > Contributions > > any other > > Forums. > > > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________ >http://my.yahoo.com > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190


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    Time: 01:55:13 PM PST US
    From: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
    Subject: Fuel Injection
    --> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com> I think Skylor might have meant 18-20 "GPH" (vs "GPM") in message below. 1200 gallons per hour might be a bit much. {:-) James -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Skylor Piper Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel Injection --> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com> Lycoming specifies a minimum boost pump pressure of 14 psi at max fuel flow, and a maximum of 35 psi for the boost pump. The boost pump for an IO-360 should be capable of at least 18-20 GPM for an IO-360. One thing to keep in mind about the Airflow performance pump package, as purchased from Van's: It includes the fuel pump, bypass check valve, and pressure relief valve, all assembled together. It also includes a fuel filter, and mounting hardware for the pump and filter. Keep in mind that you will need all of these items for other pump setups. In my opinion, all of these items make the Van's airflow performance pump package not such a bad deal after all, and you know that it will work. Skylor RV-8 QB Under Construction --- Jerry Grimmonpre <jerry@mc.net> wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" > <jerry@mc.net> > > For those with far more experience out there ... > > Question: What are the Lycoming/Air Flow > Performance fuel injection > requirements? > > What are the GPH flow requirements > > What is the pressure output requirement for a FI > pump? > > There are many Holley pumps on eBay disclaiming > their use with fuel > injection ... > > There are a few Weldon pumps as well, some costing > nearly as much as AFP ... > > Is there a cost effective and safe way to provide > needed fuel supply using > AFP throttle body? > Trying to put together a shopping list ... > > Thanks > Jerry Grimmonpre > 7A > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > __________________________________ http://my.yahoo.com


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    Time: 02:04:56 PM PST US
    From: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
    Subject: Fuel Injection
    --> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com> No problem, Skylor. There is a message somewhere out there from me mentioning that that is what you probably meant. Gotta be careful on this list ... people actually READ the stuff. {:-) James -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Skylor Piper Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel Injection --> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com> Oops... I meant to say 20 GPH, not GPM! --- Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com> wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper > <skylor4@yahoo.com> > > Lycoming specifies a minimum boost pump pressure of > 14 > psi at max fuel flow, and a maximum of 35 psi for > the > boost pump. The boost pump for an IO-360 should be > capable of at least 18-20 GPM for an IO-360. > > One thing to keep in mind about the Airflow > performance pump package, as purchased from Van's: > It > includes the fuel pump, bypass check valve, and > pressure relief valve, all assembled together. It > also includes a fuel filter, and mounting hardware > for > the pump and filter. Keep in mind that you will > need > all of these items for other pump setups. In my > opinion, all of these items make the Van's airflow > performance pump package not such a bad deal after > all, and you know that it will work. > > Skylor > RV-8 QB Under Construction > > > --- Jerry Grimmonpre <jerry@mc.net> wrote: > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" > > <jerry@mc.net> > > > > For those with far more experience out there ... > > > > Question: What are the Lycoming/Air Flow > > Performance fuel injection > > requirements? > > > > What are the GPH flow requirements > > > > What is the pressure output requirement for a FI > > pump? > > > > There are many Holley pumps on eBay disclaiming > > their use with fuel > > injection ... > > > > There are a few Weldon pumps as well, some costing > > nearly as much as AFP ... > > > > Is there a cost effective and safe way to provide > > needed fuel supply using > > AFP throttle body? > > Trying to put together a shopping list ... > > > > Thanks > > Jerry Grimmonpre > > 7A > > > > > > > > Contributions > > any other > > Forums. > > > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > http://my.yahoo.com > > > > Contributions > any other > Forums. > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm > http://www.matronics.com/archives > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > __________________________________


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    Time: 02:36:36 PM PST US
    From: "J. Rion Bourgeois" <rion@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Injection
    --> RV-List message posted by: "J. Rion Bourgeois" <rion@att.net> Jerry: The Airflow Performance high pressure fuel pump for Lycoming fuel injected engines is priced at $375 in Van's 2004 catalog. The certified Weldon high pressure pump for those engines is $595 in the 2003-2004 Aircraft Spruce catalog, page 235. I have the Weldon pump in my RV-4 becaue it is more compact and it fit more easily. I had purchased the Airflow Performance pump but returned it because of the space requirements for installation. I am using two Airflow Performance filters, one for each tank, before the fuel selector. A friend has shoe-horned the Airflow Performance pump into his RV-4 so it can be done. The only advantage to the Weldon pump that I am aware of is the compact size. Many in our chapter have used the Airflow Performance pump, and as far as I know they have all been satisfied. Since you are building a 7A, I see no reason not to use the Airflow Performance pump and save yourself the $220 price differential. These pumps have parts that wear out, so anything you buy used on e-bay may need to be rebuilt. Rion Bourgeois ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Grimmonpre" <jerry@mc.net> Subject: RV-List: Fuel Injection > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" <jerry@mc.net> > > For those with far more experience out there ... > > Question: What are the Lycoming/Air Flow Performance fuel injection > requirements? > > What are the GPH flow requirements > > What is the pressure output requirement for a FI pump? > > There are many Holley pumps on eBay disclaiming their use with fuel > injection ... > > There are a few Weldon pumps as well, some costing nearly as much as AFP > ... > > Is there a cost effective and safe way to provide needed fuel supply using > AFP throttle body? > Trying to put together a shopping list ... > > Thanks > Jerry Grimmonpre > 7A > > >


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    Time: 02:36:36 PM PST US
    From: "Dave Bergh" <dbergh@starband.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Injection
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dave Bergh" <dbergh@starband.net> Hello Clark, I have made the changes to the scholarship app. per your request and will plan to send out the final version to Greg and the local high Schools ASAP. Do you want to see a final draft before I do? The only changes were to rewrite the paragraph as you suggested and to drop the 1 scholarship per student rule. Dave. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com> Subject: RE: RV-List: Fuel Injection > --> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com> > > I think Skylor might have meant 18-20 "GPH" (vs "GPM") in message below. > 1200 gallons per hour might be a bit much. {:-) > > James > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Skylor Piper > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel Injection > > --> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com> > > Lycoming specifies a minimum boost pump pressure of 14 > psi at max fuel flow, and a maximum of 35 psi for the > boost pump. The boost pump for an IO-360 should be > capable of at least 18-20 GPM for an IO-360. > > One thing to keep in mind about the Airflow > performance pump package, as purchased from Van's: It > includes the fuel pump, bypass check valve, and > pressure relief valve, all assembled together. It > also includes a fuel filter, and mounting hardware for > the pump and filter. Keep in mind that you will need > all of these items for other pump setups. In my > opinion, all of these items make the Van's airflow > performance pump package not such a bad deal after > all, and you know that it will work. > > Skylor > RV-8 QB Under Construction > > > --- Jerry Grimmonpre <jerry@mc.net> wrote: > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" > > <jerry@mc.net> > > > > For those with far more experience out there ... > > > > Question: What are the Lycoming/Air Flow > > Performance fuel injection > > requirements? > > > > What are the GPH flow requirements > > > > What is the pressure output requirement for a FI > > pump? > > > > There are many Holley pumps on eBay disclaiming > > their use with fuel > > injection ... > > > > There are a few Weldon pumps as well, some costing > > nearly as much as AFP ... > > > > Is there a cost effective and safe way to provide > > needed fuel supply using > > AFP throttle body? > > Trying to put together a shopping list ... > > > > Thanks > > Jerry Grimmonpre > > 7A > > > > > > > > Contributions > > any other > > Forums. > > > > http://www.matronics.com/subscription > > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm > > http://www.matronics.com/archives > > http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > > http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > http://my.yahoo.com > >


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    Time: 03:09:00 PM PST US
    From: CBRxxDRV@aol.com
    Subject: FS: Dyna II RV-8 Engine mount
    --> RV-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com I have a Dyna II Factory new RV-8 Engine mount that was miss ordered.... Anyone have a need? RV-4 RV-8 QB....wings Sal Capra Lakeland, FL. My Home Page


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    Time: 05:02:35 PM PST US
    From: John Huft <rv8@lazy8.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Injection
    --> RV-List message posted by: John Huft <rv8@lazy8.net> Before my first flight, I tested my AFP pump, by pumping into a 5 gallon bucket, from left and right tanks. The average was 53 GPH. John Scott Bilinski wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com> > >I would not even think of looking at a pump that puts out less than 25 GPH >minimum. By the way, I have also looked in this direction and stayed with >the AFP pump assy. > > >At 01:31 PM 1/21/2005 -0800, you wrote: > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com> >> >>Lycoming specifies a minimum boost pump pressure of 14 >>psi at max fuel flow, and a maximum of 35 psi for the >>boost pump. The boost pump for an IO-360 should be >>capable of at least 18-20 GPM for an IO-360. >> >>One thing to keep in mind about the Airflow >>performance pump package, as purchased from Van's: It >>includes the fuel pump, bypass check valve, and >>pressure relief valve, all assembled together. It >>also includes a fuel filter, and mounting hardware for >>the pump and filter. Keep in mind that you will need >>all of these items for other pump setups. In my >>opinion, all of these items make the Van's airflow >>performance pump package not such a bad deal after >>all, and you know that it will work. >> >>Skylor >>RV-8 QB Under Construction >> >> >>--- Jerry Grimmonpre <jerry@mc.net> wrote: >> >> >> >>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" >>><jerry@mc.net> >>> >>>For those with far more experience out there ... >>> >>>Question: What are the Lycoming/Air Flow >>>Performance fuel injection >>>requirements? >>> >>>What are the GPH flow requirements >>> >>>What is the pressure output requirement for a FI >>>pump? >>> >>>There are many Holley pumps on eBay disclaiming >>>their use with fuel >>>injection ... >>> >>>There are a few Weldon pumps as well, some costing >>>nearly as much as AFP ... >>> >>>Is there a cost effective and safe way to provide >>>needed fuel supply using >>>AFP throttle body? >>>Trying to put together a shopping list ... >>> >>>Thanks >>>Jerry Grimmonpre >>>7A >>> >>> >>> >>>Contributions >>>any other >>>Forums. >>> >>>http://www.matronics.com/subscription >>>http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm >>>http://www.matronics.com/archives >>>http://www.matronics.com/photoshare >>>http://www.matronics.com/emaillists >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>__________________________________ >>http://my.yahoo.com >> >> >> >> > > >Scott Bilinski >Eng dept 305 >Phone (858) 657-2536 >Pager (858) 502-5190 > > > >


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    Time: 11:18:34 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
    Subject: test
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net> Do not archive Test




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