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1. 04:09 AM - What metal is it? (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
2. 04:10 AM - Fuel pressure connection (Ron Schreck)
3. 04:36 AM - Re: Sennheiser Headsets..... (Dean Pichon)
4. 04:45 AM - Re: What metal is it? (UFOBUCK@aol.com)
5. 05:33 AM - Turbo Tom.. A good friend will be missed (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
6. 05:36 AM - Re: Anywhere Map with XM Weather (Doug Rozendaal)
7. 06:06 AM - Re: Carburator Heat on RV's (Gabe A Ferrer)
8. 06:22 AM - Re: Gillespie Field/San Diego 0.10 DRUGS_ERECTILE (Scott Bilinski)
9. 06:30 AM - Re: What metal is it? (James E. Clark)
10. 06:31 AM - Re: Gillespie Field/San Diego 0.10 DRUGS_ERECTILE (Henry Hochberg)
11. 06:36 AM - Re: What metal is it? (SportAV8R@aol.com)
12. 06:41 AM - Re: What metal is it? (SportAV8R@aol.com)
13. 06:59 AM - Re: Gillespie Field/San Diego 0.10 DRUGS_ERECTILE (Scott Bilinski)
14. 06:59 AM - Re: What metal is it? (Albert Gardner)
15. 07:02 AM - Re: What metal is it? (Scott Bilinski)
16. 07:07 AM - Re: What metal is it? (Dale Mitchell)
17. 07:15 AM - Undersize drill for landing gear bolts (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
18. 07:19 AM - Re: What metal is it? (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
19. 07:22 AM - Re: What metal is it? (Tom & Cathy Ervin)
20. 07:26 AM - Re: Fuel pressure connection (Dan Checkoway)
21. 07:27 AM - Re: What metal is it? (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
22. 07:34 AM - Re: Fuel pressure connection (Dave Bristol)
23. 08:22 AM - Re: Fuel pressure connection clamav-milter version 0.80j on zoot.lafn.org (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
24. 08:55 AM - Re: Fuel pressure connection clamav-milter version (Dave Bristol)
25. 09:12 AM - Re: Fuel pressure connection clamav-milter version 0.80j on zoot.lafn.org (Doug Rozendaal)
26. 09:28 AM - Re: Carburetor heat on RVs (bertrv6@highstream.net)
27. 09:37 AM - Re: Re: Carburator Heat on RV's (bertrv6@highstream.net)
28. 09:53 AM - Re: Gillespie Field/San Diego 0.10 DRUGS_ERECTILE Refers to an erectile drug (Bob)
29. 09:54 AM - Re: What metal is it? And fly-in inquiry (Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club)
30. 10:12 AM - Carburator Heat on RV's ()
31. 10:32 AM - Sennheiser Headset special from Builder's Bookstore (Aircraft Technical Book Company)
32. 10:32 AM - Re: What metal is it? (SportAV8R@aol.com)
33. 10:44 AM - Re: Fuel pressure connection (Charlie Kuss)
34. 11:09 AM - Prop test 2-blade, 3-blade, 4-blade (JOHN STARN)
35. 12:16 PM - Certification of an RV (bertrv6@highstream.net)
36. 12:19 PM - aMESSAGE POSTED,CREDITED TO ME (bertrv6@highstream.net)
37. 12:23 PM - Re: Carburator Heat on RV's (LARRY ADAMSON)
38. 12:31 PM - Re: Flying RVs in Greenbrier Valley (long) (Bob)
39. 02:01 PM - Re: aMESSAGE POSTED,CREDITED TO ME (Terry Watson)
40. 03:17 PM - Re: Sennheiser Headset special from Builder's Bookstore (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky))
41. 04:19 PM - Re: Carburator Heat on RV's ()
42. 04:32 PM - Re: release the hounds (Charlie Kuss)
43. 05:18 PM - Re: Turbo Tom.. A good friend will be missed (David)
44. 05:29 PM - Re: Turbo Tom.. A good friend will be missed (Cory Emberson)
45. 10:15 PM - Re: How to License Your Homebuilt Aircraft (Mike Robertson)
46. 10:16 PM - Re: Certification of an RV (Mike Robertson)
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| Subject: | What metal is it? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
I have been e-mailing this gentleman seas who has many questions as he
is building his 6A. He wants to weld the nose gear to his engine mount.
I know I know, why the %$#@%$@! Would you want to do that? I dunno but
he does. Anyhow... does anyone know what is the metal used in the nose
gear for a 6A? His request is below. Thanks
Mike
S8 FWF
Do not archive
Bill Ill try and find out for you. But why on earth would you want to
weld it to the engine mount? It gets removed for many reasons. Engine
removal, bent gear, engine mount replacement and so forth. I WOULD NOT
weld it. It is a serviceable item. I realize welds can be broken but the
sleeve is close tolerance. I would remove the torch from your sons hands
immediately!
Ill see if I cant find out what it is made of in any case so you can
advise him in any case.
Mike
Any many thanks for your service!
>
> Mike..
>
> You may or may not remember me from a couple of
> months ago. I am an officer
> aboard ship. thought I would be home by now, but
> the Tsunami thing sort of
> held me up and I find we are involved in assisting
> the poor folks over here
> off Sri Lanka. Looks like we have about done all we
> can do and hopefully I
> can get home in a few weeks.
>
> Mike, the reason I am writing is because I'm having
> a heck of a time
> contacting
> Vans because of our touch and go communications,
> etc. I've been trying to
> find
> out what the exact metal is on my nose gear leg (I
> have an RV6A). My son
> has
> decided to go ahead and tig weld it to the engine
> mount for me even tho I am
> overseas and he needs to know what it's made of. Do
> u happen to know?
>
> Sure appreciate your help and still enjoy looking
> over your website.
>
> thanks again
> Bill Bentley
> USNS WATSON T-AKR 310
> Indian Ocean
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Fuel pressure connection |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck@webkorner.com>
I have the AFP fuel injection on my RV-8 and it has a guage connection for fuel
pressure on the flow divider. I also have a connector on the output fitting
of my engine driven fuel pump. Which connection should I use? Does it matter?
Ron Schreck
RV-8
Gold Hill, NC
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| Subject: | Sennheiser Headsets..... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dean Pichon" <deanpichon@msn.com>
I have two Sennheiser headsets in my -4. Both have performed flawlessly for
the past 4 years. I recently took advantage of the adjustable mike gain
feature to improve squelch control. In tandem aircraft, the voice activated
mikes need different settings to talk comfortably - neither my intercom nor
radio allows for either front/back squelch or mike gain adjustment.
Fortunately, the Sennheiser units do. For all I know, however, all headsets
have this feature. Only recently have I come to care.
I tested several noise cancelling headsets in a number of "demo booths" at
Oshkosh and found that Sennheiser, Lightspeed, and Bose were all
indistinguisable to my ears. I decided against the Bose for the large price
delta and the fact that (at least at the time) it could not easily be
hardwired to the aircraft's power supply.
As I recall, the Lightspeed could have been hardwired, but either the
connector was a custom - that would have precluded me from using other
headsets with standard jacks, or the voltage was other than standard (12-14
volts)
Good luck,
Dean
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com>
Subject: RV-List: Sennheiser Headsets.....
--> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company"
<winterland@rkymtnhi.com>
While we are talking about headsets, does anybody have anything good or bad
to say about Sennheisers. We are looking to pick up the line, mainly as a
request from one of our dealers. He says they are as good as the Bose
products but for a bunch less money. Anybody want to agree with him?
Andy
Builder's Bookstore
www.Buildersbooks.com
PilotsBooks
www.Pilotsbooks.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
<rv-list@matronics.com>; <vansairforce@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Headsets.....again...
> --> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
>
> Sorry but I must humbly disagree. While gathering data or asking
questions
> on any RV subject I want as many opinions / observations as possible. If
you
> want to limit the number of messages received, pick your "favorite ONE".
By
> the way you forgot the Rocket list, 'cause we're RV's too. We're just on
> steroids. 8*)
> Keep up the posts Bill, I have a delete button. Do Not Archive. KABONG
> SoCalRV, HRII
>
> ---- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Headsets.....again...
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
> >
> >
> > Good discussion....But posting across multiple lists is poor
netiquette.
> > Pick your favorite ONE. None of us needs four copies of this topic.
> >
> >
> > -
> > Larry Bowen
> > Larry@BowenAero.com
> > http://BowenAero.com
> > do not archive
> >
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
>
>
Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!
http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
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| Subject: | Re: What metal is it? |
--> RV-List message posted by: UFOBUCK@aol.com
I would tell you friend to either build the airplane by the plans or don't
build it at all.
BClary
RV-6A
75TX
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| Subject: | Turbo Tom.. A good friend will be missed |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Many of you know Turbo Tom Wyatt(TT), a pilot, RV'er, gentle man from
the Atlanta area. He and his close friend Barbara were killed instantly
yesterday in a car accident. TT has contributed to this list over the
years. He was a writer and contributor of several aviation magazines
most notable Kit Planes that he was doing a series of articles. He was
also a glider pilot, Tow pilot, and a genius when it came to engines and
fiberglass. He would get calls from engine race teams around the world
and be flown to locations to work out engine problems. I have watched
him in action, with laptop in hand teching out over a race engine,
tweaking her out with all the techno geek things he could do with
computers and engines. He was good. Have you ever seen a hand molded
intake plenum beautifully sculpted out of carbon fiber to exacting
specs? It was amazing what he could do with glass. A real craftsman.
Here is a recent picture of his Carbon Fiber hand molded panel from his
RV-8.
http://www.mstewart.net/deletesoon/ttpanel.jpg
He was working on is RV-8, finishing up the electrical. He was planning
a Franklin engine. He had the hots for that smoooooth engine. TT never
did anything normal. Always trying new things. Never following the
others. Always going off in new uncharted territory based on his
extensive experiences with the mechanics of things. Oh and man was he
stubborn! Try and talk him out of doing something. FORGET IT!
His closest friend was Bob Goodman, Subob we call him for the Subaru
engine he ran to the Sun 100 first place in class 2 years ago. TT kept
that thing running fast. An RV-4 turbo charged Subaru that would go like
you wouldn't believe. TT put that whole setup together. A proud papa
when his best friend ran her to first place in that race.
I just had dinner with em both recently at my house. One of the nicest,
most helpful guys you could ever meet. He will be missed.
If you were close to TT and know his family or close friends, please
contact me off list.
Regards,
Mike Stewart
S8 FWF
Gonna Miss you TT. You taught me a lot.
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| Subject: | Re: Anywhere Map with XM Weather |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
> Do you find the tablet manageable in your RV4?
>
> TIA
>
> James Freeman
>
Yes, the Fujitsu LT-600 works fine in the RV-4. I have tried a Xplore 104
in the -4 and it is too big. I may buy the Xplore 104 to use in bigger
airplanes.
For those considering using a laptop in an airplane, forget it. IT DOES NOT
WORK. A tablet with touchscreen and a daylight viewable display is a must.
Another thing to consider is, that harddrives do not like altitudes above 10
to 12K feet. The head is an airfoil that flies above the surface of the
drive on a few molecules of air. I have used my Fujitsu up to 12.5 but
never higher.
Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
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| Subject: | Re: Carburator Heat on RV's |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Gabe A Ferrer" <ferrergm@bellsouth.net>
My EIS (Engine Information System) monitors the carburetor temperature in my RV6's
Lycoming 0-360.
In 144 hours of flight it has never detected icing conditions in my carburetor.
I've flown about 110 hours in Florida. The rest in cross country flights to New
Mexico, Colorado, Illinois and Arkansas. In the spring, summer and fall.
I never use carburetor heat, but my experience is limited. I have only about 700
hours of total flight time. And I'm open minded about changing my flight procedures.
Just a data point.
Gabe A Ferrer
RV6 N2GX 144 hours
South Florida
ferrergm@bellsouth.net
cell: 561 758 8894
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drug
| Subject: | Re: Gillespie Field/San Diego 0.10 DRUGS_ERECTILE |
Refers to an erectile drug
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com> Refers
to an erectile drug
All around best field in my opinion is Gillespie field due to costs and
weather, meaning costal fog. Ramona is very nice but cost about 35% more
for a hanger and is a long drive from.....well I dont know where you want
to live so maybe Ramona would be best for you. Have you seen the average
house prices out here OUCH!
At 08:28 PM 1/27/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net>
>
>Hi gang,
>
>Does anyone on the list have intimate knowledge about Gillespie field in
>San Diego? I may be moving to the area of S/D and need to find a nice spot
>for my RV-4. An affordable hangar would be great, but perhaps the moderate
>weather would permit me to tie down outside. This will be a very long term
>move ( as in retirement). Is Gillespie a good choice? And would one be able
>to find a hangar or tiedown?
>
>Any other ideas about fields or airparks in the Southern Cal area would be
>very much appreciated. And of course, e-mail me offline if your post seems
>un-RV-related.
>
>Louis
>
>
>-
>Louis I Willig
>1640 Oakwood Dr.
>Penn Valley, PA 19072
>610 668-4964
>RV-4, N180PF "Miss Viagra"
>190HP IO-360, C/S prop
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | What metal is it? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
Mike,
I don't have the answer to the metal question but maybe if he reads the
latest RVator it will help convince him.
For those that do not have it, it discusses how a low tire pressure in the
nose tire MIGHT lead to things that end up causing a bent nosegear. As you
and others know, it is somewhat easy to remove the gear and get it replaced
by Van's and a lot harder to remove all the engine stuff to replace the
entire engine mount assembly.
It pains me to even think about that thing being welded.
James
2nd nosegear (on an RV6A project)and not even flying yet! :-)
| -----Original Message-----
| From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
| server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)
| Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 7:08 AM
| To: rv-list@matronics.com
| Subject: RV-List: What metal is it?
|
| --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
| <mstewart@iss.net>
|
| I have been e-mailing this gentleman seas who has many questions as he
| is building his 6A. He wants to weld the nose gear to his engine mount.
| I know I know, why the %$#@%$@! Would you want to do that? I dunno but
| he does. Anyhow... does anyone know what is the metal used in the nose
| gear for a 6A? His request is below. Thanks
|
| Mike
|
| S8 FWF
|
| Do not archive
|
|
| Bill Ill try and find out for you. But why on earth would you want to
| weld it to the engine mount? It gets removed for many reasons. Engine
| removal, bent gear, engine mount replacement and so forth. I WOULD NOT
| weld it. It is a serviceable item. I realize welds can be broken but the
| sleeve is close tolerance. I would remove the torch from your sons hands
| immediately!
|
|
| Ill see if I cant find out what it is made of in any case so you can
| advise him in any case.
|
|
| Mike
|
| Any many thanks for your service!
|
| >
|
| > Mike..
|
| >
|
| > You may or may not remember me from a couple of
|
| > months ago. I am an officer
|
| > aboard ship. thought I would be home by now, but
|
| > the Tsunami thing sort of
|
| > held me up and I find we are involved in assisting
|
| > the poor folks over here
|
| > off Sri Lanka. Looks like we have about done all we
|
| > can do and hopefully I
|
| > can get home in a few weeks.
|
| >
|
| > Mike, the reason I am writing is because I'm having
|
| > a heck of a time
|
| > contacting
|
| > Vans because of our touch and go communications,
|
| > etc. I've been trying to
|
| > find
|
| > out what the exact metal is on my nose gear leg (I
|
| > have an RV6A). My son
|
| > has
|
| > decided to go ahead and tig weld it to the engine
|
| > mount for me even tho I am
|
| > overseas and he needs to know what it's made of. Do
|
| > u happen to know?
|
| >
|
| > Sure appreciate your help and still enjoy looking
|
| > over your website.
|
| >
|
| > thanks again
|
| > Bill Bentley
|
| > USNS WATSON T-AKR 310
|
| > Indian Ocean
|
| >
|
| >
|
| >
|
| >
|
|
|
|
|
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| Subject: | Re: Gillespie Field/San Diego 0.10 DRUGS_ERECTILE |
Refers to an erectile drug
--> RV-List message posted by: Henry Hochberg <aeroncadoc@comcast.net>
Scott Bilinski Refers to an erectile drug wrote:
Just out of curiousity, in the header there is this little "additive"
attached. Is this a virus, or a spam deflector? Or you advertising Cialis?
Henry H.
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| Subject: | Re: What metal is it? |
--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
The reason he wants to weld it (my guess) is that this is one of the options offered
by Gus @ Vans for "what to do after the bolt hole wallows out and lets the
nose gear leg develop all kinds of lateral play" after a few hundred hours
or less. Or he can fool with trying to get a reamer in those tight quarters for
a tapered clevis, or he can weld a gussett plate over the hole and re-drill
for a close tolerance bolt, or he can use JB weld and hope it takes the slop
out for a few hours, etc etc,etc... I've been on the phone / heard that / "getting
the T-shirt" soon, I think.
I love nose gear aircraft (for the same reasons that the military, commercial and
insurance sectors of modern avaition all do, so don't start the "sissy wheel"
thing with me ;-), but Van's engineering of RV nosegear leaves a ton to be
desired, IMO.
-Stormy
RV-6A
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| Subject: | What metal is it? |
--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
Let me add that if I didn't have to remove the nose gear leg to drop the FAB for
servicing the air filter, mine would be welded in place aready. Nothing a grinder
couldn't remove in a pinch, but welded just the same.
-Stormy
...living with the torsional shimmy/slop for now...
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drug
| Subject: | Re: Gillespie Field/San Diego 0.10 DRUGS_ERECTILE |
Refers to an erectile drug
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com> Refers
to an erectile drug
Yea I saw that.........after I hit send, not sure what to think.
At 06:30 AM 1/28/2005 -0800, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Henry Hochberg <aeroncadoc@comcast.net>
>
>Scott Bilinski Refers to an erectile drug wrote:
>
>Just out of curiousity, in the header there is this little "additive"
>attached. Is this a virus, or a spam deflector? Or you advertising Cialis?
>
>Henry H.
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: What metal is it? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" <spudnut@worldnet.att.net>
My nose gear socket developed some slop and I had Van send me the insert
that goes in the motor mount socket for replacement. Used a grinder to
remove the welds that held the insert in and then welded the replacement
insert in its place. Fixed my problem-major work was removing the motor
mount to work on it.
Albert Gardner
RV-9A 872RV
Yuma, AZ
----- Original Message -----
From: <SportAV8R@aol.com>
> Let me add that if I didn't have to remove the nose gear leg to drop the
> FAB for servicing the air filter, mine would be welded in place aready.
> Nothing a grinder couldn't remove in a pinch, but welded just the same.
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| Subject: | What metal is it? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
There are a few times when I have refused to help people. Well this is one
of them, I would not help them in the slightest. Kind of makes me wonder
that if he is taking the welding approach to the nose gear, what else has
he done on the plane thats out in left field? Very scary.
At 09:40 AM 1/28/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
>
>Let me add that if I didn't have to remove the nose gear leg to drop the
>FAB for servicing the air filter, mine would be welded in place
>aready. Nothing a grinder couldn't remove in a pinch, but welded just the
>same.
>
>-Stormy
>...living with the torsional shimmy/slop for now...
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: What metal is it? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dale Mitchell <dfm4290@yahoo.com>
I wouldn't weld it you may end up stress cracking and
have the gear leg completely fail.
IMHO.
Dale Mitchell
--- "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
<mstewart@iss.net> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael
> (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
>
> I have been e-mailing this gentleman seas who has
> many questions as he
> is building his 6A. He wants to weld the nose gear
> to his engine mount.
> I know I know, why the %$#@%$@! Would you want to do
> that? I dunno but
> he does. Anyhow... does anyone know what is the
> metal used in the nose
> gear for a 6A? His request is below. Thanks
>
> Mike
>
> S8 FWF
>
> Do not archive
>
>
> Bill Ill try and find out for you. But why on earth
> would you want to
> weld it to the engine mount? It gets removed for
> many reasons. Engine
> removal, bent gear, engine mount replacement and so
> forth. I WOULD NOT
> weld it. It is a serviceable item. I realize welds
> can be broken but the
> sleeve is close tolerance. I would remove the torch
> from your sons hands
> immediately!
>
>
> Ill see if I cant find out what it is made of in any
> case so you can
> advise him in any case.
>
>
> Mike
>
> Any many thanks for your service!
>
> >
>
> > Mike..
>
> >
>
> > You may or may not remember me from a couple of
>
> > months ago. I am an officer
>
> > aboard ship. thought I would be home by now, but
>
> > the Tsunami thing sort of
>
> > held me up and I find we are involved in assisting
>
> > the poor folks over here
>
> > off Sri Lanka. Looks like we have about done all
> we
>
> > can do and hopefully I
>
> > can get home in a few weeks.
>
> >
>
> > Mike, the reason I am writing is because I'm
> having
>
> > a heck of a time
>
> > contacting
>
> > Vans because of our touch and go communications,
>
> > etc. I've been trying to
>
> > find
>
> > out what the exact metal is on my nose gear leg (I
>
> > have an RV6A). My son
>
> > has
>
> > decided to go ahead and tig weld it to the engine
>
> > mount for me even tho I am
>
> > overseas and he needs to know what it's made of.
> Do
>
> > u happen to know?
>
> >
>
> > Sure appreciate your help and still enjoy looking
>
> > over your website.
>
> >
>
> > thanks again
>
> > Bill Bentley
>
> > USNS WATSON T-AKR 310
>
> > Indian Ocean
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
>
>
> Contributions
> any other
> Forums.
>
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| Subject: | Undersize drill for landing gear bolts |
--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
Listers,
My thought is that if the hole is close to begin with, then it is not as
likely to wallow out. You should have to almost drive the bolt in to the gear
leg and bracket (with a little LPS-3 on it).
I measured the diameter of the kit supplied bolts with a micrometer, then
looked through all my assortment of bits hoping to find one that was about .002
inch under 5/16 inch for a good match.
I found almost all of my 5/16 high speed steel bits were very close to the
same size. However, I discovered, almost by accident, that all of the drill
bits were tapered -- getting progressively smaller as you went away from the
cutting end of the bit. I was able to get the bit about .002 inch undersized
by cutting it in two at about half of its original length with a grinder.
You can then re-sharpen the bit and it will still be long enough to drill
through the gear leg and mount. You can re-sharpen hss bits much more
successfully than the titanium bits that we get from Avery.
Of course, you should have already drilled the hole about 19/64 inch (1/64
under 5/16) before you drill this finish hole. This is a poor man's
substitute for a reamer, I guess. Reamers are hard to come by out here in the
sticks!
It worked great for me. YMMV.
Dan Hopper
Walton, IN
RV-7A
N766DH (Flying since last July)
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| Subject: | What metal is it? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Here is some more detail he just sent me. We don't always know the facts
and should not assume the worst just cause we can.
=====
Hey, Mike thanks. Just a bit ago I was able to get hold of Van's and
get
the info. Was just about to email you.
FYI: the reason I plan on welding it to the upper end of the socket is
because I had some hangar damage that required my having to replace the
nose gear leg (fork lift...hmmm). Attempting to match the close specs
of
the bolt hole and lining up the front wheel all with the engine in place
just got too much. I decided the only way to get the thing right would
be to remove the engine...and didn't want to do that. so I figured I'd
weld it to the upper socket of the engine mount. If I needed to remove
it
the NEXT time I'd then be required to remove the engine instead of
having
to do it now. Was in hopes I wouldn't have to replace the nose gear too
soon...but knew it could come up...
Since I didn't build the plane I would have to have someone remove the
engine and all and it would cost a ton. Was hoping to avoid that until
it
was absolutely necessary.
so now you know the rest of the story. And thanks so much for going to
the trouble of offering your opinion. It is greatly appreciated and
respected
======
Mike
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Bilinski
Subject: RE: RV-List: What metal is it?
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski
<bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
There are a few times when I have refused to help people. Well this is
one
of them, I would not help them in the slightest. Kind of makes me wonder
that if he is taking the welding approach to the nose gear, what else
has
he done on the plane thats out in left field? Very scary.
At 09:40 AM 1/28/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
>
>Let me add that if I didn't have to remove the nose gear leg to drop
the
>FAB for servicing the air filter, mine would be welded in place
>aready. Nothing a grinder couldn't remove in a pinch, but welded just
the
>same.
>
>-Stormy
>...living with the torsional shimmy/slop for now...
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: What metal is it? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net>
Why do you have to remove the nose gear to service the Fab Air Box?? I have
a 360-A1A in my RV6-A and added the dimple in the back of the box per the
plans. There is know problem removing the air box for servicing?
If the nose gear is being removed over and over I think you have
found the main reason for the bolt hole wear and slop. Just my thoughts for
what they are worth.
Tom in Ohio
----- Original Message -----
From: <SportAV8R@aol.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: What metal is it?
> --> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
>
> Let me add that if I didn't have to remove the nose gear leg to drop the
> FAB for servicing the air filter, mine would be welded in place aready.
> Nothing a grinder couldn't remove in a pinch, but welded just the same.
>
> -Stormy
> ...living with the torsional shimmy/slop for now...
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel pressure connection |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> I have the AFP fuel injection on my RV-8 and it has a guage connection for
fuel pressure on the flow divider. I also have a connector on the output
fitting of my engine driven fuel pump. Which connection should I use? Does
it matter?
Use the one on the engine-driven fuel pump. The pressure we're concerned
with is the pressure being provided to the fuel controller/servo.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
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| Subject: | Re: What metal is it? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
In a message dated 1/28/05 10:08:49 A.M. US Eastern Standard Time,
dfm4290@yahoo.com writes:
--> RV-List message posted by: Dale Mitchell <dfm4290@yahoo.com>
I wouldn't weld it you may end up stress cracking and
have the gear leg completely fail.
IMHO.
Dale Mitchell
--- "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
<mstewart@iss.net> wrote:
I raced stock cars back in the 60's and 70's, and while qualifying for my
first race on a dirt track, the left rear axle of my '57 Ford came out. As I
slid down the front straightaway, I saw the wheel and axle assembly going
through the infield. As a matter of fact, I can still see that today!
Anyway, this guy comes up to me and says, "Didn't you weld that press ring
on?" I learned then that 3 small spots of stainless steel weld will keep the
axle in, and there was never a failure due to cracking. I wouldn't hesitate
to do the same thing with a gear leg. I would do it at the top where a crack
wouldn't be catastrophic, though. Stainless steel welding rod seems to be
compatible with all spring steels. All IMNSHO, of course.
Do not archive.
Dan Hopper (Ole no. 41)
Walton, IN
RV-7A
N766DH (Flying since July)
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel pressure connection |
clamav-milter version 0.80j
on zoot.lafn.org
--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol <bj034@lafn.org>
Yes it matters. You won't get actual system fuel pressure from the flow
divider, it must be connected to the output of the mechanical pump.
Pressure at the flow divider will be reduced according to the throttle
setting.
Dave -6 So Cal
EAA Technical Advisor
Ron Schreck wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck@webkorner.com>
>
>I have the AFP fuel injection on my RV-8 and it has a guage connection for fuel
pressure on the flow divider. I also have a connector on the output fitting
of my engine driven fuel pump. Which connection should I use? Does it matter?
>
>Ron Schreck
>RV-8
>Gold Hill, NC
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Fuel pressure connection clamav-milter version 0.80j |
on zoot.lafn.org
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
OK then why does my Bendix divider have a "gage" port?
Something different?
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Bristol
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel pressure connection clamav-milter version
0.80j on zoot.lafn.org
--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol <bj034@lafn.org>
Yes it matters. You won't get actual system fuel pressure from the flow
divider, it must be connected to the output of the mechanical pump.
Pressure at the flow divider will be reduced according to the throttle
setting.
Dave -6 So Cal
EAA Technical Advisor
Ron Schreck wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck@webkorner.com>
>
>I have the AFP fuel injection on my RV-8 and it has a guage connection
for fuel pressure on the flow divider. I also have a connector on the
output fitting of my engine driven fuel pump. Which connection should I
use? Does it matter?
>
>Ron Schreck
>RV-8
>Gold Hill, NC
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel pressure connection clamav-milter version |
0.80j on zoot.lafn.org
clamav-milter version 0.80j
on zoot.lafn.org
--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol <bj034@lafn.org>
Because on an airplane like a Bonanza, they use that pressure and
convert it to a fuel flow reading. Not as good as an actual fuel flow
meter, but it works.
Dave
Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta) wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
>
>OK then why does my Bendix divider have a "gage" port?
>Something different?
>Mike
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Bristol
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel pressure connection clamav-milter version
>0.80j on zoot.lafn.org
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol <bj034@lafn.org>
>
>Yes it matters. You won't get actual system fuel pressure from the flow
>divider, it must be connected to the output of the mechanical pump.
>Pressure at the flow divider will be reduced according to the throttle
>setting.
>
>Dave -6 So Cal
>EAA Technical Advisor
>
>
>Ron Schreck wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck@webkorner.com>
>>
>>I have the AFP fuel injection on my RV-8 and it has a guage connection
>>
>>
>for fuel pressure on the flow divider. I also have a connector on the
>output fitting of my engine driven fuel pump. Which connection should I
>use? Does it matter?
>
>
>>Ron Schreck
>>RV-8
>>Gold Hill, NC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel pressure connection clamav-milter version 0.80j |
on zoot.lafn.org
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
If you attach a pressure gauge to that port you can calibrate it in gallons
per hour. Before we had low cost flow meters that was about the only way
fuel flow was measured in GA airplanes. pressure is proportional to flow
through a known orifice(s). Not very accurate but pretty consistent.
Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
> <mstewart@iss.net>
>
> OK then why does my Bendix divider have a "gage" port?
> Something different?
> Mike
>
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| Subject: | Re: Carburetor heat on RVs |
--> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
Quoting gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com:
> --> RV-List message posted by: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com>
>
>
> >bertrv6@highstream.net writes:
> >What is the practice with carburetor heat, on RV's? on rv6..
>
>
> I think you should install a good carb heat system on your RV. My suggestion,
> is at minimum, install Van's Carb Heat set-up per (plans)**. It is cheap,
> light and compact. Even though your RV is experimental, it is a regulatory
> requirement for certified aircraft to have Carb heat. I think it is wise to
> include carb heat as a required system.
>
> **(Uses a solid #10 threaded push-pull cable for CH cont'l, not the thin wire
> type, which will break in 100-200 hours.)
>
> >bertrv6@highstream.net writes:
> >I cruise high VFR when I cross the big hills we have out west and, without
Hey George:
Where did you get this, I have not written this, why because I am not
flying yet..
explain yes?
Bert
rv6a
Do Not archive
> carb heat on, >normally see carb air temps about 5 deg C above ambient.
> Since I can see what the carb >air temp is, I never use carb heat if it's
> not needed.
>
>
> I am not sure what the point is: Clear of clouds, dry air (high altitudes),
> higher cruse power and no carb ice. So? Carb ice is possible w/ carb air
> temp's between ( -10c to +10c), add moisture, reduced power setting you can
> get carb ice. You can find testimonials saying it never happens, as well as
> those who have experienced it. Carb ice can, will and does happen in the
> right conditions, even in a RV with a Lycoming. Consider it insurance.
>
> Cheers George (RV-4 O-320, RV-7 O-360 project)
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Carburator Heat on RV's |
--> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
Quoting Gabe A Ferrer <ferrergm@bellsouth.net>:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Gabe A Ferrer" <ferrergm@bellsouth.net>
>
> My EIS (Engine Information System) monitors the carburetor temperature in my
> RV6's Lycoming 0-360.
>
> In 144 hours of flight it has never detected icing conditions in my
> carburetor. I've flown about 110 hours in Florida. The rest in cross country
> flights to New Mexico, Colorado, Illinois and Arkansas. In the spring, summer
> and fall.
>
> I never use carburetor heat, but my experience is limited. I have only about
> 700 hours of total flight time. And I'm open minded about changing my flight
> procedures.
>
> Just a data point.
>
> Gabe A Ferrer
> RV6 N2GX 144 hours
> South Florida
> ferrergm@bellsouth.net
> cell: 561 758 8894
>
> Gabe:
Gabriel no? what nationality are you? I live in Orlando, Colombian'
building rv6a..
As to carbv heat, every one should use carb heat on landing always..
that is my believe.. I had a cherokee for a number of years, Lyc.0320 150 HP
the manual reccommends use of it ..
Finally, I know some one recked his rv6a due to carb ice, here in
Florida..
By the way you are Ferrer,, I am Forero....
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gillespie Field/San Diego 0.10 DRUGS_ERECTILE Refers to an |
erectile drug
--> RV-List message posted by: Bob <flyboy.bob@gmail.com>
The original message refered to: a RV-4 "Miss Viagra" . . . probably a
spam filter inserted the info in the header?!
Regards,
Bob
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 06:58:19 -0800, Scott Bilinski
<bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Refers to an erectile drug
>
> Yea I saw that.........after I hit send, not sure what to think.
>
> At 06:30 AM 1/28/2005 -0800, you wrote:
> >--> RV-List message posted by: Henry Hochberg <aeroncadoc@comcast.net>
> >
> >Scott Bilinski Refers to an erectile drug wrote:
> >
> >Just out of curiousity, in the header there is this little "additive"
> >attached. Is this a virus, or a spam deflector? Or you advertising Cialis?
> >
> >Henry H.
> >
> >
>
> Scott Bilinski
> Eng dept 305
> Phone (858) 657-2536
> Pager (858) 502-5190
>
>
>
--
Thanks,
Bob
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| Subject: | Re: What metal is it? And fly-in inquiry |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta) wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
>
>Here is some more detail he just sent me. We don't always know the facts
>and should not assume the worst just cause we can.
>=====
>Since I didn't build the plane I would have to have someone remove the
>engine and all and it would cost a ton. Was hoping to avoid that until
>it was absolutely necessary.
>
I don't know what he means by this. He wont have to have someone else
remove the engine . He can remove the engine.
My advise to this situation is to Weld a gusset on one side only. and
insert the gear leg into the socket and clamp and position it correctly.
Then drill it using the hole through the gear leg to help serve as a
guide. Then pull the gear out and weld a gusset to the other side,
Insert the gear leg back in and this time drill from the other side,
again using the gear leg to help with alignment after it is in the
correct position. I would use some pretty heavy sheet stock for the
gusset and I would Tig it . I havent looked at the plans much on the
nose dragger, but if there is room for the bolt, there should be room to
put in a good re-inforcement patch. He can do all this himself....
Phil in Illinois.......
Here Ye, Here Ye, Anyone out there interested in a 2 1/2 to 3 day
fly-in to small town Central Illinois in Mid or Late September? Just
testing the water, there are already several interested, but I need to
see what real interest there would be before we start the planning. If
there is interest, we are going to try to get City and Airport
Commission help. Barring a rainy weekend, the weather is usaully very
delightful here at that time of year.You could come for one day, 2 days
or 3 days... Camping can be on the airfield. Motels, and food joints are
all very close by and plentiful..
http://www.litchfieldil.com/airport/location.htm. With proper advance
planning, we could even have a few vendors here......... replies
requested........
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| Subject: | Carburator Heat on RV's |
--> RV-List message posted by: <sears@searnet.com>
> As to carbv heat, every one should use carb heat on landing always..
> that is my believe.. I had a cherokee for a number of years, Lyc.0320 150
HP
> the manual reccommends use of it ..
>
> Finally, I know some one recked his rv6a due to carb ice, here in
Florida..
Bert, I'm confused. I vaguely remember you were the one who started this
thread by asking if you should use carb heat. Is my memory failing? If
not, why ask the question if you've already formed an opinion? Of course,
it could be my memory working against me. One day this week, I forgot what
day it was. That happens when one retires. :-)
As for the carb heat cable, I think the nice cable mentioned earlier is good
because it's less likely to fail. It's a bit expensive, though. I have the
thin wire type with a B nut and have not had a bit of trouble with mine. I
have over 300 tach hours on my RV, which relates to about 340 actual hours.
Of course, your milage may vary. :-) Even if I don't use mine very often,
I still want it there. I guess mine could fail if I used it on every
landing. However, there is one thing I do use on every takeoff and landing.
The boost pump. Now, that one I can understand. :-)
Jim Sears in KY
RV-6A N198JS (Scooter)
RV-7A #70317 (Building tanks)
EAA Tech Counselor
EAA Flight Advisor
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| Subject: | Sennheiser Headset special from Builder's Bookstore |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com>
Thanks to everyone who gave their opinions on Sennheiser headsets (both on
and off the list) Without exception every comment was "as good as they get"
or "just like Bose, but without the high price".
Because of this and because one of our FBO customers wants them, I'm going
to take on the line. However, in order for us to qualify for their higher
dealer level, we must meet an initial order minimum.
So, to reach that quota, through Monday morning, here's a special sale.
Sennheiser model HMEC 25-KAS headsets
$625.00 each plus free shipping (within the US)
This is $54 less than Spruce and Sporty's plus free shipping.
The 25 KAS's are Sennheiser's top of the line headset for piston aircraft.
They are stereo with active noise cancelling in the earpieces and passive
cancelling in the mike and weigh just 5.9 ounces. We'll do similar sale
prices on other Sennheiser models too, but this is the model which we are
going carry on a regular basis.
For more detailed info, click here into the Sennheiser web site.
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/newsite/category.asp?transid=cat91
We don't yet have them listed in our catalogs, so if you'd like to order by
Monday, please do so by return e-mail or by phone
Thanks,
Andy
Builder's Bookstore
www.buildersbooks.com
800 870-4115
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| Subject: | Re: What metal is it? |
--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
>>Why do you have to remove the nose gear to service the Fab Air Box?? I have
a 360-A1A in my RV6-A and added the dimple in the back of the box per the
plans. There is know problem removing the air box for servicing?<<
I don't think that dimple was on the plans in '94. I've never added it b/c it
doesn't look like the dimple required would allow the box to clear the filter
in the rear; maybe it's just my fairing installation that's funny in that way.
Never wanted to invest a weekend fiberglassing instead of flying in order to find
out, when dropping the leg only adds 15 minutes to the process. I don't think
the bolt going into and out of the hole a few times wore the hole :-)
-Stormy
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel pressure connection |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
Mike,
Checking the pressure at the spider would also aid in troubleshooting a
malfunctioning FI system.
Charlie
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
>
>If you attach a pressure gauge to that port you can calibrate it in gallons
>per hour. Before we had low cost flow meters that was about the only way
>fuel flow was measured in GA airplanes. pressure is proportional to flow
>through a known orifice(s). Not very accurate but pretty consistent.
>
>Tailwinds,
>Doug Rozendaal
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
> > <mstewart@iss.net>
> >
> > OK then why does my Bendix divider have a "gage" port?
> > Something different?
> > Mike
> >
>
>
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"rocket-list" <rocket-list@matronics.com>
| Subject: | Prop test 2-blade, 3-blade, 4-blade |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Very long and anecdotal. :-)
Sent from Jack computer - Tom Gummo
do not archive
There has been a lot of talk lately on different props for the RV and Rocket
series aircraft. I have flown with three different props on my plane. I
have been asked to comment on my experiences.
First let me say that I am a pilot (OK, I like to think of myself as a
Fighter Pilot). I would build again in a heartbeat if the money and time
issue would occur again but I don't think of myself as a builder.
Second, I don't have the training of Kevin Horton or the wordsmith skills of
Doug R. but here is my story.
I have the slowest Rocket build with an IO-540 with 250 HP. (Isn't there a
Rocket with the 235 hp version of the engine?). With that said, it PUTS A
GIANT SMILE on my face each time I fly it. I started with a two blade
Hartzell that John Harmon sells for the Rocket. The six verses
four-cylinder engine different can be felt. I total believe the
six-cylinder is smoother.
Here is my flight test experience (note I don't say data). First, I don't
know the max speed at sea level. I just don't fly that way. I takeoff (at
22 GPH), climb to altitude and bring the fuel flow back to a reasonable 10
to 12 GPH and fly around at 140 to 150 Knots indicated. The speeds seen on
my gauges agree with the GPS but not tested in any real manner. At 11,500
or 12,500, the altitudes I go X-country, full throttle, RPM at 2100 or 2200,
fuel flow around 11.5-12.0 GPH, the 140 Knots indicated produced 180 Knots
True.
I let some dumb-sh_t fly my plane and he had to stop quickly while taxing
back to the hangar and put the plane on it's nose. NEW PROP required.
Enter Jim Ayers; I met Jim several years ago as my EAA chapter helps ACS run
the Copperstate Dash race, which started at APV my home airport. He ran his
RV-3 a couple of times. Turns out that he was building a Rocket too. So we
talked by email helping each other with building problems. By this time, I
knew he was dealer for MT props. So, I gave him a call. Let me say again,
I am a pilot. I didn't want to wait 6 months, 6 weeks, 6 days or even 6
minutes for a new prop. I want to fly. He told me that John Harmon had a
FOUR bladed MT prop he tried on his new HR-III and the Reno Air Races. It
didn't fit John's requirements. John made me a deal and I had a new prop
for my rocket. I knew up front, both Jim and John, told me that, it would
slow me down. As I wanted a military paint scheme (WW-II), the four bladed
prop just looked too good.
(My 250 HP isn't enough to use the prop properly)
The four bladed prop was notability smoother. While it wasn't really
"Turbine like", but except for the noise, it was hard to tell if the engine
was running (he said with tongue in cheek). As predicted, I lost some
speed. The same partial throttle 10 GPH fuel flows, now produce only 140
Knots indicated and at altitude, the GPS is now reporting 170 Knots true.
Sure looks good thou.
I let another dumbsh_t fly my plane and as he was putting the plane back
into the hangar, he hit the prop on the hangar door. (Turns out someone
moved the hangar door while he was flying but he didn't check before moving
the plane.) I contacted Jim and we determined that the prop had to be
returned to MT-Germany to fix the ding. He then said something I never
expected. Jim said, "I have a three bladed prop you can use while your prop
is being fixed." Jack and I took off the prop, drove to Jim's house,
returned with the other prop, and was flying the next day.
I couldn't tell the difference in smoothness between the three bladed or
four bladed props. But the 10 knots lost were back.
Here is my summary:
All the MT props were smoother than the Hartzell prop. I don't have all the
model numbers here.
The two bladed Hartzell and three bladed MT produced the best speeds. I
didn't do enough testing to be able to tell if there was any difference.
But it wouldn't be more than one or two knots, so get the one you want.
The four bladed MT prop caused a lost of 10 knots of speed. However, MT
believes that they have a new design and at 250-300 HP ranges, a four bladed
prop will produce the same speeds as the three bladed prop. So far, MT
props have produced what they told me they would so I would like to believe
them. They want another 2200 dollars to change out the new blades for my
old ones so we won't know. 2200 dollars buys lots of gas.
As for Jim, he comes off as a MT dealer because he is. I also believe that
he is willing to help other builders, etc. He sure helped me out this time.
I am sure that he makes money when he gets group buys for MT props, but at
the same time, where are you going to get those prices if you want one. I
for one will give Jim a little slack on his emails.
Tom Gummo
HR-II, N561FS, 240 hours
Apple Valley, CA
P.S. - All those dumbsh_ts were me.
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| Subject: | Certification of an RV |
--> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
Hi:
For those ready for certification; I just finished the process;
You can get from the FAA a complete book with details, Instructions
and best of all the sample forms, you need.
AND IT IS FREE...
CALL YOU NEAREST FSDO OR DOT..I DONOT KNOW PHONES, HERE IN ORLANDO,
O GOT THE BOOK, WHEN AT SUN AND FUN..
IF ANY ONE HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS, CONTACT ME OFF THE LIST.
BERT
RV6A
dO nOT aRCHIVE
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--> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
Hi:
I do not know how this happens, I would like to know..
I just read another of the e-mails posted on this list, which is
attributed to me.
It says something like this;; Bert writes...I fly high vfr...and something
related to carburator heat...
This is impossible, I am not ready for my first flight yet....
Just like the recent post, about the rv, forced to land, here in
Orlando,, that guy, invented more things than one can immagine..
AS the say believe only half of what you read...
Bert rv6a
almost
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Carburator Heat on RV's |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LARRY ADAMSON" <rvhi03@msn.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: sears@searnet.com
Subject: RV-List: Carburator Heat on RV's
This is kind of like setting mixture. While at my 4603' msl airport altitude, I'll
lean immediately after engine start, and again with the pre-takeoff checklist.
Won't ever
go to full rich for landing in my area either. But........... I still won't use
carb heat as a
general practice for approaches ---------------due to the fact that I feel it isn't
needed (ex- Piper Archer flyer)
and the higher chance of failing to push it in during a go-around. It's a fact,
that high altitude
forced landings happen just because of this. For me, carb heat is not a habit &
part of the mental or written check list.
Now while mixture is a "habit" for me, "leaning" is not always a habit for many
pilots from areas such as
the coastal regions of California or the U.K., when setting up and in a hurry
for takeoff at these altitudes. I once argued with
a pilot from these sea level areas, who felt it wasn't necessary to lean until
a much higher altitude.
Yet, you fly enough around here, and it's easy to see the power difference for
takeoff.
And speaking of "boost pump", I put a nice red lit switch for the pump and an annunciater
light, since it was a bad habit of mine of
not turning it on, or off.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
>Bert, I'm confused. I vaguely remember you were the one who started this
>thread by asking if you should use carb heat. Is my memory failing? If
>not, why ask the question if you've already formed an opinion? Of course,
>it could be my memory working against me. One day this week, I forgot what
>day it was. That happens when one retires. :-)
>As for the carb heat cable, I think the nice cable mentioned earlier is good
>because it's less likely to fail. It's a bit expensive, though. I have the
>thin wire type with a B nut and have not had a bit of trouble with mine. I
>have over 300 tach hours on my RV, which relates to about 340 actual hours.
>Of course, your milage may vary. :-) Even if I don't use mine very often,
>I still want it there. I guess mine could fail if I used it on every
>landing. However, there is one thing I do use on every takeoff and landing.
>The boost pump. Now, that one I can understand. :-)
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| Subject: | Re: Flying RVs in Greenbrier Valley (long) |
clamav-milter version 0.80j
on opie.wvnet.edu
--> RV-List message posted by: Bob <panamared3@brier.net>
My RV6 is the only RV at Lewisburg (LWB) West Virginia. We are about 10
miles from the world famous Greenbrier Hotel (at least they think it is
world famous). The Hotel during the cold war was the alternate site for
congress, all in underground nuclear proof bunkers. Above the bunkers is a
seemingly benign 5 star resort and spa.
So about three or four times a year congress decides to have a meeting at
the Greenbrier! I guess it is more fun for all of them to come to the
Greenbrier and conduct business, rather than stay in Washington DC. Of
course President Bush can not stay away either. He is visiting today.
My point is, from 2000 hrs Thrusday until sometime Sunday LWB is under a
5, 10 and 30 mile TFR. Prior to this TFR going into effect, Presidential
Security Officials have inspected my hanger. During the Presidential
arrival or departure at LWB, the airport is closed, I-64 is closed and if
you are at the airport you are forced inside away from all windows. If you
are not at the airport you will not be allowed on.
I am all in favor of Presidential security, but in this case it means my RV
is grounded for 3 days! For those who do not live anywhere close to where
the President or Congress would desire to visit, well you are lucky. I
just thought I would pass along that all is not perfect in paradise.
But, I did have one great flight last night before the TFR went into
effect. I took off just before sunset and it was cold, 10 degrees F. I
did some low level nap of the earth flying, out to my farm. I had as a
passenger an ex Vietnam F-4 pilot with me. He was impressed with the RV
(who isn't, what an airplane!). After I did a low level sneak attack on my
wife at the farm, we went up to about 5K and I let my passenger fly. He
couldn't believe how easy the RV is to keep in a 60-70 degree 2-3 G steep
turn. Steep turns are too much fun. In an RV I find it hard to do steep
turns without gaining a substantial amount of altitude.
Speaking of altitude, with two of us at gross weight and 2300 feet airport
elevation, I climbed out at 2000+FPM! While my partner was flying at about
5K he was climbing at 600 FPM and 140 knots IAS. Try that in a Mooney
(that is what he flys mostly). Later when I took over for landing, we were
doing 178 knots straigtht and level at 4500 feet with 22 inches of MP. I
have never seen a straight and level speeds so fast (it was cold). I have
the Micromontor flight instrument and love to check TAS, this was the first
time I have ever experienced an IAS higher than TAS? IAS when I checked
was 168 knots and TAS was 166 Knots. Regardless of the real speed, we were
moving.
On landing I was able to do my favorite approach. Military carrier
overhead approach. I am good friends with the guys in the control tower
and I have had numerous discussions about my approach techniques with
them. They love it and always give me approval even though I tell them if
there is other traffic not to let me mess up the pattern. Last night no
one was in the pattern so I went for it. I crossed the numbers at 600 AGL
and 171 knots, pulled up into a 3 G climbing turn cut the throttle and
climbed back to pattern altitude. By this time we were at 100knots and
ready to drop flaps. Full flaps and on final at 1200 AGL 2 miles out, time
to forward slip, crossed the numbers at 20 feet and 70 kts. An end to one
great flight! (I love the way an RV can be slipped to lose altitude on
final, no excuse for not making the field if the engine quits on final.)
When I was first deciding on what airplane to build at the EAA Arlington
Fly-in about 12 years ago. One of the speakers during the RV presentation
stated that the if the RV 3 was a 10 out of 10, then the RV4 would be a 9
and the RV6 would be an 8, with a Cessna 172 as a 3. If the RV6 is an 8,
then that RV3 must be some fun airplane. I can't even imagine flying
getting much better than an RV6. I would love to try out a RV3 someday to
see what a "10" is all about!
Bob RV6
NightFighter
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| Subject: | aMESSAGE POSTED,CREDITED TO ME |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
Just like the recent post, about the rv, forced to land, here in
Orlando,, that guy, invented more things than one can immagine..
AS the say believe only half of what you read...
Bert rv6a
No, Bert, I think you just misread what he had to say. Here's a recent
response to your comments, which you apparently missed:
Terry
--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Grieve <mark@macomb.com>
The original post by Mr. Carpa included "I can not tell you who he was
or what the tail number was " and "sure hope this was not the plane."
Seems to me that the writer was only speculating that the plane he
observed could have been the plane that had a forced landing. That
plane, smelling of MO gas, with the pilot's wife and dog on board,
apparently made it home without incident and was clearly not the plane
belonging to your friend.
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Sennheiser Headset special from Builder's Bookstore |
--> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
I hope they are better than Bose as I wasn't overly impressed by Bose.
One thing that makes me not trust Bose and puts a lot of the hoopla into cult following
status is that Bose doesn't post any active and passive noise cancellation/reduction
info.
Kind of like GM never publishing the mpg on their Hummer....(the over 8600-lb gross
vehicle weight exempts H2s from EPA mileage-reporting program but GM isn't
going to tell you it gets about 10 - 11 mpg anyway - not that there's anything
wrong with that ;-) )
Also kind of like the folks who try to passionately tell you a Apple/Macintosh
computer is WAY better but when I use them I don't come away with that impression...
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company"
>
>
> Thanks to everyone who gave their opinions on Sennheiser headsets (both on
> and off the list) Without exception every comment was "as good as they get"
> or "just like Bose, but without the high price".
>
> Because of this and because one of our FBO customers wants them, I'm going
> to take on the line. However, in order for us to qualify for their higher
> dealer level, we must meet an initial order minimum.
>
> So, to reach that quota, through Monday morning, here's a special sale.
>
> Sennheiser model HMEC 25-KAS headsets
> $625.00 each plus free shipping (within the US)
>
> This is $54 less than Spruce and Sporty's plus free shipping.
>
> The 25 KAS's are Sennheiser's top of the line headset for piston aircraft.
> They are stereo with active noise cancelling in the earpieces and passive
> cancelling in the mike and weigh just 5.9 ounces. We'll do similar sale
> prices on other Sennheiser models too, but this is the model which we are
> going carry on a regular basis.
>
> For more detailed info, click here into the Sennheiser web site.
> http://www.sennheiserusa.com/newsite/category.asp?transid=cat91
>
> We don't yet have them listed in our catalogs, so if you'd like to order by
> Monday, please do so by return e-mail or by phone
>
> Thanks,
> Andy
> Builder's Bookstore
> www.buildersbooks.com
> 800 870-4115
>
>
>
>
>
>
I hope they arebetter than Bose as I wasn't overly impressed by Bose.
One thing that makes me not trust Bose and puts a lot of the hoopla intocult following
statusis that Bose doesn't post any active and passive noise cancellation/reduction
info.
Kind of like GM never publishing the mpg on their Hummer....(the over 8600-lb gross
vehicle weightexempts H2s from EPA mileage-reporting program but GM isn't
going to tell you it gets about 10 - 11 mpg anyway - not that there's anything
wrong with that ;-) )
Also kind of like the folks who try to passionately tell you a Apple/Macintosh
computer is WAY betterbut when I use them I don't come away with that impression...
-------------- Original message --------------
-- RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company"
<WINTERLAND@RKYMTNHI.COM>
Thanks to everyone who gave their opinions on Sennheiser headsets (both on
and off the list) Without exception every comment was "as good as they get"
or "just like Bose, but without the high price".
Because of this and because one of our FBO customers wants them, I'm going
to take on the line. However, in order for us to qualify for their higher
dealer level, we must meet an initial order minimum.
So, to reach that quota, through Monday morning, here's a special sale.
Sennheiser model HMEC 25-KAS headsets
$625.00 each plus free shipping (within the US)
This is $54 less than Spruce and Sporty's plu
s free shipping.
The 25 KAS's are Sennheiser's top of the line headset for piston aircraft.
They are stereo with active noise cancelling in the earpieces and passive
cancelling in the mike and weigh just 5.9 ounces. We'll do similar sale
prices on other Sennheiser models too, but this is the model which we are
going carry on a regular basis.
For more detailed info, click here into the Sennheiser web site.
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/newsite/category.asp?transid=cat91
We don't yet have them listed in our catalogs, so if you'd like to order by
Monday, please do so by return e-mail or by phone
Thanks,
Andy
Builder's Bookstore
www.buildersbooks.com
800 870-4115
rum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions
>
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| Subject: | Re: Carburator Heat on RV's |
--> RV-List message posted by: <sears@searnet.com>
> This is kind of like setting mixture. While at my 4603' msl airport
altitude, I'll
> lean immediately after engine start, and again with the pre-takeoff
checklist. Won't
> ever go to full rich for landing in my area either. But........... I still
won't use carb heat > as a general practice for
approaches ---------------due to the fact that I feel it isn't > needed (ex-
Piper Archer flyer) and the higher chance of failing to push it in during a
> go-around. It's a fact, that high altitude forced landings happen just
because of this. > For me, carb heat is not a habit & part of the mental or
written check list.
As I said in a earlier note, my Cheetah's POH didn't call for it. At your
altitude, you'd just be causing more of a problem, wouldn't you? The air
is already thin; so, heat would thin it more, if I'm not mistaken. I can
see where you wouldn't want it. I'm betting all of us will forget the
mixture on landing, from time to time. Some just won't admit it. :-)
> Now while mixture is a "habit" for me, "leaning" is not always a habit for
many pilots > from areas such as the coastal regions of California or the
U.K., when setting up
> and in a hurry for takeoff at these altitudes. I once argued with a pilot
from these sea > level areas, who felt it wasn't necessary to lean until a
much higher altitude. Yet, you > fly enough around here, and it's easy to
see the power difference for takeoff.
Didja ask them if they noticed the longer runways? I did when I flew to
Boulder, Co. a couple of times from the lower MSLs of KY. Gotta be a reason
for it. Some don't lean up on hot days at the lower levels, either. I do.
I've found a few more rpms for take off power on those hot days. When I
leave out of Pat Patterson's grass strip with my little 150hp -6A, every rpm
counts on a hot day. A little leaning is good. For that matter, I lean
when I'm flying at lower altitudes. Saves money.
> And speaking of "boost pump", I put a nice red lit switch for the pump and
an
> annunciater light, since it was a bad habit of mine of not turning it on,
or off.
I don't have one. I'd probably forget to look at it. :-) I figure if I
leave it on, it won't hurt a thing. The one like I have is used in autos
for years before they fail. There is very little added pressure to the
system; so, I don't worry about it. I do make sure it's on when I take off,
though. I also make sure it's on when I land. In between doesn't matter as
much.
Jim Sears in KY
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: release the hounds |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
Evan
Any progress with this cretin?
Charlie Kuss
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
>
>Do any of you guys know how to reach Brian Baumgarner, formerly of Neosho
>MO ? I've had it with this guy.....he has apparently split to Florida
>somewhere leaving behind an $820.00 fuel tank bill which is years past due
>(literally). He called me in a desperate hurry for a new tank because he
>had a damaged one on an airplane he had sold. I went out of pocket for
>parts/labor and shipping costs to help him....only to be left hanging. I
>have got to tell you, I never cease to be baffled when someone takes
>advantage of my trust. Thankfully it rarely happens in this community, and
>I still routinely ship out finished product before billing. Airplane folks
>as a rule are well above average when it comes to honesty. Any help would
>be appreciated.......As a matter of fact, I have a new airspeed indicator
>(or donation for same amount to charity in your name) for whichever person
>recovers this lost revenue. I know this sounds harsh, but you have to
>understand I have been polite in many pho!
>ne calls and multiple letters and have received only empty promises of
>payment. To me this is a significant amount of money and it would not be
>fair to myself or my family to just let it go.
>
>
>Regards.....
>
>
>Evan Johnson
>www.evansaviationproducts.com
>(530)247-0375
>(530)351-1776 cell
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Turbo Tom.. A good friend will be missed |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David" <davewendi@comcast.net>
Turbo Tom was my sailplane instructor at
Mid-Ga. Soaring Association. His knowledge and
abilities about anything to do with flying was
simply amazing! He was literally a walking
encyclopedia of aviation! He will be missed!
David Kirby
RV6A-QB
Griffin, Ga.
Message 44
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| Subject: | Turbo Tom.. A good friend will be missed |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net>
I am so sorry to hear this - what a terrible loss. My prayers to all.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Stewart, Michael
(ISS Atlanta)
Subject: RV-List: Turbo Tom.. A good friend will be missed
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
<mstewart@iss.net>
Many of you know Turbo Tom Wyatt(TT), a pilot, RV'er, gentle man from
the Atlanta area. He and his close friend Barbara were killed instantly
yesterday in a car accident. TT has contributed to this list over the
years. He was a writer and contributor of several aviation magazines
most notable Kit Planes that he was doing a series of articles. He was
also a glider pilot, Tow pilot, and a genius when it came to engines and
fiberglass. He would get calls from engine race teams around the world
and be flown to locations to work out engine problems. I have watched
him in action, with laptop in hand teching out over a race engine,
tweaking her out with all the techno geek things he could do with
computers and engines. He was good. Have you ever seen a hand molded
intake plenum beautifully sculpted out of carbon fiber to exacting
specs? It was amazing what he could do with glass. A real craftsman.
Here is a recent picture of his Carbon Fiber hand molded panel from his
RV-8.
http://www.mstewart.net/deletesoon/ttpanel.jpg
He was working on is RV-8, finishing up the electrical. He was planning
a Franklin engine. He had the hots for that smoooooth engine. TT never
did anything normal. Always trying new things. Never following the
others. Always going off in new uncharted territory based on his
extensive experiences with the mechanics of things. Oh and man was he
stubborn! Try and talk him out of doing something. FORGET IT!
His closest friend was Bob Goodman, Subob we call him for the Subaru
engine he ran to the Sun 100 first place in class 2 years ago. TT kept
that thing running fast. An RV-4 turbo charged Subaru that would go like
you wouldn't believe. TT put that whole setup together. A proud papa
when his best friend ran her to first place in that race.
I just had dinner with em both recently at my house. One of the nicest,
most helpful guys you could ever meet. He will be missed.
If you were close to TT and know his family or close friends, please
contact me off list.
Regards,
Mike Stewart
S8 FWF
Gonna Miss you TT. You taught me a lot.
Message 45
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| Subject: | How to License Your Homebuilt Aircraft |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
Or you can just ask your friendly Fed type person.
Do Not Archive
Mike R.
>From: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <RV-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: How to License Your Homebuilt Aircraft
>Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:57:19 -0600
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
>
>This is an announcement that www.HomebuiltHELP.com has just completed
>production, and the release of their latest DVD video presentation: "How
>to License Your Homebuilt Aircraft". (for the U.S.)
>
>To the best of my knowledge, this is the first comprehensive DVD video that
>explains in detail the complete licensing process for experimental amateur
>built aircraft - showing what/how/when to fill out the forms, the
>inspection process, and also demonstrating new capabilities such as
>reserving an N number by going online and using the FAA website.
>
>I'll leave it at that, as full details are available at the
>www.HomebuiltHELP.com website.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Jon
>
>
Message 46
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| Subject: | Certification of an RV |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
Or you can just go to the FAA amateur-built website and get everything you
need there for free.
The web address is:
http://www.faa.gov/certification/aircraft/av-info/dst/amateur/default.htm
Mike Robertson
>From: bertrv6@highstream.net
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Certification of an RV
>Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:12:09 -0500
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
>
>
>Hi:
>
>For those ready for certification; I just finished the process;
>You can get from the FAA a complete book with details, Instructions
>and best of all the sample forms, you need.
>
> AND IT IS FREE...
>
>CALL YOU NEAREST FSDO OR DOT..I DONOT KNOW PHONES, HERE IN ORLANDO,
>O GOT THE BOOK, WHEN AT SUN AND FUN..
>
> IF ANY ONE HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS, CONTACT ME OFF THE LIST.
>
>
>BERT
>
>RV6A
>
>dO nOT aRCHIVE
>
>
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