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1. 12:31 AM - Re: Wig Wag (RV6 Flyer)
2. 02:43 AM - Re: Vans Service Bulletin - TIP UP Canopy 7 and 9s only ()
3. 07:14 AM - Re: Electronic Ignition and starting problems (Chuck Jensen)
4. 07:39 AM - Re: Electronic Ignition and starting problems (SCOTT SPENCER)
5. 07:41 AM - Re: aviation humor (James E. Clark)
6. 07:50 AM - Re: Wig Wag (Larry Bowen)
7. 08:09 AM - Re: Electronic Ignition and starting problems (Larry Bowen)
8. 08:34 AM - Re: Electronic Ignition and starting problems (James E. Clark)
9. 08:43 AM - Aviation Poem (Tom Gummo)
10. 10:23 AM - Re: Electronic Ignition and starting problems (LARRY ADAMSON)
11. 10:43 AM - Re: Wig Wag (HCRV6@aol.com)
12. 11:40 AM - Re: Electronic Ignition and starting problems ()
13. 12:02 PM - Dual Electronic Starting Issues (Duane Zavadil)
14. 12:15 PM - New RV7A Rudder - proseal stiffeners (JTAnon@aol.com)
15. 03:59 PM - Re: New RV7A Rudder - proseal stiffeners (Evan and Megan Johnson)
16. 05:06 PM - RV/Rocket Steering Link (Jim Gray)
17. 06:11 PM - Andair Air/Oil Seperator ()
18. 06:26 PM - Re: RV/Rocket Steering Link (Andre Berthet)
19. 07:09 PM - Van's master relay (Dave)
20. 07:56 PM - Re: Van's master relay (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
21. 08:25 PM - Re: Van's master relay (Larry Olson)
22. 08:34 PM - Re: Van's master relay (Knicholas2@aol.com)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
Len:
My original one cost $7.77 from JC Whitney. It went out at 900 hours and
could not find its replacement as it was out of production. B&C Speciality
had one recommended by Bob Nuckols for less than $30 delivered. It is solid
state and the same pinout and form factor as the old mechanial High Beam
flasher that I purchased 10 years earlier.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,627 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com
----Original Message Follows----
From: Lenleg@aol.com
Subject: RV-List: Wig Wag
--> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
Anybody give me the contact info for Bob Haan ... producer of the Wig
Wag????
Thanks !!
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, NC N910LL
315 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Vans Service Bulletin - TIP UP Canopy 7 and 9s only |
--> RV-List message posted by: <sears@searnet.com>
> It would be nice if Vans kept track of their customers and gave us a
> call/letter/email when stuff like this happens.
>
> http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb05-1-1.pdf
>
> This looks like a fun thing to be doing for a (nearly) completed plane.
Actually, it's an either or situation. My -6A has the old method of
assembly and hasn't come apart, yet. If you have the older style brace, and
have it already past the point of no return, I'm not sure I'd worry with it.
There are hundreds of tip-ups using the old configuration. Mine hasn't come
apart, yet. Of course, it could fly apart on the next flight. :-) I
wonder why they made the change?
Jim Sears in KY
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| Subject: | Electronic Ignition and starting problems |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com>
Dale Mitchell wrote
One idea to help would be to get the engine cranking
fast then turn on the electronic ignition.
One other idea is to put a magneto that goes 0 degrees
BTC and use it to start the engine.
That confirms my experience with a IO-540 with a mag and Rose e-ignition. If I
start with both ignitions turned on, I often get kickback. After having replaced
a starter ring gear, I now employ the procedure starting with the mag only,
then immediately turning on the e-ignition when it catches. No problem.
Chuck
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| Subject: | Re: Electronic Ignition and starting problems |
--> RV-List message posted by: SCOTT SPENCER <aerokinetic@sbcglobal.net>
I thought the Electroair ignitions had a provision for retarding the spark to TDC
or thereabouts during starting use to prevent kickback much like a mag impulse
coupling does (mag impulses have the dual function of winding up a spring
to fling the mag at high enough speed to spark -as well as retarding the spark
to TDC).
I need to fine my EI manual and read up...
I have an Electroair ignition and an impulse equipped mag as well. I always start
on the mag. My theory is that this tests both systems every flight and offers
me a way to get the thing started with a hand prop in an emergency with the
battery dead (the flight would be on one ignition with no electrical -but if
you're stuck in the backcountry... or need to flee a hurricane)
I have a small 12V sealed backup battery going in along with the Dynon (don't like
the internal idea). It isn't enough to start the engine, but I have the intention
to add a switch to supply power to the battery solenoid after such a start,
so as to close it and then be able to charge the main battery (an Odyssey
-they *are* great)
I welcome input...
Scott
N4ZW
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--> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
Nice.
Felt like I was there.
James
| -----Original Message-----
| From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
| server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Gummo
| Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 12:47 AM
| To: RV List; SoCal RV List
| Subject: RV-List: aviation humor
|
| --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
|
| I gave Dot (An EAA member of my chapter) a ride in the Rocket the other
| day and she wrote a poem based on "Green Eggs and Ham".
|
| GREEN DOT, NO SPAM
| (With apologies to Dr. Seuss & others)
|
|
| An invitation I got one day,
|
| Gummy Bear said, "Let's go play.
|
| My rocket is in good repair
|
| And so to you I give a dare.
|
| Go upside-down we surely will,
|
| And round and round is better still".
|
|
| My heart was filled with fear and dread
|
| For upside down I'd never been.
|
| And so, in silence, my mind said....
|
|
| "I would not, could not, Gummy Bear.
|
| I would not, could not anywhere;
|
| Not in the day,
|
| Not in the night,
|
| Not near the ground
|
| Nor up at height.
|
| I could not do it, Gummy Bear.
|
| I could not do it anywhere".
|
|
| Then later he said, "My prop is broke.
|
| I can't go fly, my heart is broke.
|
| I cannot fly you upside-down.
|
| I cannot fly you over town.
|
| I cannot fly you through the air.
|
| I cannot fly you anywhere.
|
| I'm really sorry, my friend Dot.
|
| It's purely sad, no prop I got."
|
|
| So I thought I was off the spot. (whew).
|
|
| Saturday came and unprepared,
|
| I ran into Gummy standing there
|
| Beside his Rocket, looking great,
|
| Propeller mounted nice and straight.
|
| "We're going flying", Gummy crowed.
|
| "And we'll be upside-down and rolled.
|
| My rocket's tested, flying fine,
|
| So when the meeting ends...it's TIME".
|
|
| And time it was, so out we went
|
| To prep the Rocket we were bent.
|
| The briefing was a thing of beauty.
|
| Gummy seriously took his duty.
|
| Then when I was all strapped and seated,
|
| Like a prisoner, justice meted,
|
| Gummy shouted "CLEAR" and started
|
| Up the engine. It sort of.......hesitated.
|
| Then roared to life and smooth as purring,
|
| We taxied to the runway luring.
|
|
| And I thought to myself as we S-turned along,
|
|
| I could not, should not, Gummy Bear!
|
| Go upside-downish ANYWHERE!
|
|
| A nice old runup we employed,
|
| And an up sharp takeoff we enjoyed.
|
| The power, Oh, the Rocket power!
|
| It felt like we could leap a tower.
|
| Gummy made that airplane zoom
|
| In a sky of insufficient room
|
| For airplanes made of stuff like that.
|
|
| It was then that Gummy began to chat
|
| Of crisp controls and snappy rolls.
|
| If I'd take the stick and test them out,
|
| I'd be surprised; I'd have to shout.
|
| So I grabbed the stick, moved to and fro,
|
| And back and forth, and high and low,
|
| But Gummy thought I'd been too timid,
|
| So he, himself, showed me the limits.
|
|
| "Wow!" I thought, and, "Yikes!" I squealed.
|
| The plane responded, banked and wheeled,
|
| And then he said, "It's time to ROLL!
|
| Are you ready, Dotty? Here we go!"
|
|
| Would I? Could I? Did I dare?
|
| Why should I fear it, Gummy Bear?
|
|
| I grabbed his seat and closed my eyes.
|
| Then it was over, a swift surprise.
|
| I couldn't believe it had happened so fast,
|
| And I, still alive, was sorry it passed,
|
| And also, doggone, it happened TOO fast!
|
|
| So -
|
|
| I asked if we could try it again,
|
| And Gummy said, "Sure, let's speed up the plane."
|
|
| Determined to keep my eyes open this time,
|
| Before I knew it, we'd spun on a dime.
|
|
| (I was glad I didn't wear a scarf,
|
| for into it I'd have had to barf.
|
| Just kidding, my friends, it wasn't half bad.
|
| If you get to try it, you sure won't be sad.)
|
|
| We drilled the air.
|
| We spun up there.
|
| We turned and zipped,
|
| And rolled and flipped.
|
| We really did it, Gummy Bear!
|
| We upside-downed it way up there!
|
| Old hat for you, but new to me,
|
| Imagination filled with glee
|
| At all the stuff this plane could do-
|
| rolls, steep climbs and speedily, too!
|
|
| But now it's over, we must return.
|
| Young Eagles to fly. They want to learn.
|
| So back we go and down we land,
|
| A greaser for sure, done with Gummy's fine hand
|
|
| A pilot's life is filled with joy
|
| When the air becomes a giant toy.
|
| Unlikely upside down I'd dare...
|
|
| So -
|
|
| I'm glad you asked me, Gummy Bear.
|
|
| Please - Do Not Archive
|
|
|
|
|
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I have some wig-wag notes on my site:
http://bowenaero.com/mt3/archives/2004/10/wigwag_replaced.html
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> Lenleg@aol.com wrote:
>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
> >
> >Anybody give me the contact info for Bob Haan ... producer
> of the Wig Wag????
> >
> >Thanks !!
> >
> >Len Leggette, RV-8A
> >Greensboro, NC N910LL
> >315 hrs
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| Subject: | Electronic Ignition and starting problems |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I have one mag, one Rose ign., PC680 battery, stock O-360. I start with
both on. No probs so far. I'm running Aeroshell 80 and use a preheater
during the winter so all starts have been easy so far. Maybe that's a
factor.....
-
Larry Bowen, RV-8 60 Hrs.
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SCOTT SPENCER [mailto:aerokinetic@sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 10:18 AM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Electronic Ignition and starting problems
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: SCOTT SPENCER
> <aerokinetic@sbcglobal.net>
>
> I thought the Electroair ignitions had a provision for
> retarding the spark to TDC or thereabouts during starting use
> to prevent kickback much like a mag impulse coupling does
> (mag impulses have the dual function of winding up a spring
> to fling the mag at high enough speed to spark -as well as
> retarding the spark to TDC).
>
> I need to fine my EI manual and read up...
>
> I have an Electroair ignition and an impulse equipped mag as
> well. I always start on the mag. My theory is that this tests
> both systems every flight and offers me a way to get the
> thing started with a hand prop in an emergency with the
> battery dead (the flight would be on one ignition with no
> electrical -but if you're stuck in the backcountry... or need
> to flee a hurricane)
>
> I have a small 12V sealed backup battery going in along with
> the Dynon (don't like the internal idea). It isn't enough to
> start the engine, but I have the intention to add a switch to
> supply power to the battery solenoid after such a start, so
> as to close it and then be able to charge the main battery
> (an Odyssey -they *are* great)
>
> I welcome input...
>
> Scott
> N4ZW
>
>
> =========
> Matronics Forums.
> =========
> =========
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Electronic Ignition and starting problems |
--> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
As mentioned in an earlier post, we have a similar setup but with O-320,
wood prop and Aeroshell 15-50. I for got to mention ...
The preheater does make a difference in the willingness to start AND there
is a difference in how quickly the engine starts when using both vs mag
only.
James
| -----Original Message-----
| From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
| server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Bowen
| Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 11:08 AM
| To: rv-list@matronics.com
| Subject: RE: RV-List: Electronic Ignition and starting problems
|
| --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
|
| I have one mag, one Rose ign., PC680 battery, stock O-360. I start with
| both on. No probs so far. I'm running Aeroshell 80 and use a preheater
| during the winter so all starts have been easy so far. Maybe that's a
| factor.....
|
|
| -
| Larry Bowen, RV-8 60 Hrs.
| Larry@BowenAero.com
| http://BowenAero.com
|
{SNIP}
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
I got several requests to resubmit so that it goes into the archives so here it
is again.
GREEN DOT, NO SPAM
(With apologies to Dr. Seuss & others)
An invitation I got one day,
Gummy Bear said, "Let's go play.
My rocket is in good repair
And so to you I give a dare.
Go upside-down we surely will,
And round and round is better still".
My heart was filled with fear and dread
For upside down I'd never been.
And so, in silence, my mind said....
"I would not, could not, Gummy Bear.
I would not, could not anywhere;
Not in the day,
Not in the night,
Not near the ground
Nor up at height.
I could not do it, Gummy Bear.
I could not do it anywhere".
Then later he said, "My prop is broke.
I can't go fly, my heart is broke.
I cannot fly you upside-down.
I cannot fly you over town.
I cannot fly you through the air.
I cannot fly you anywhere.
I'm really sorry, my friend Dot.
It's purely sad, no prop I got."
So I thought I was off the spot. (whew).
Saturday came and unprepared,
I ran into Gummy standing there
Beside his Rocket, looking great,
Propeller mounted nice and straight.
"We're going flying", Gummy crowed.
"And we'll be upside-down and rolled.
My rocket's tested, flying fine,
So when the meeting ends...it's TIME".
And time it was, so out we went
To prep the Rocket we were bent.
The briefing was a thing of beauty.
Gummy seriously took his duty.
Then when I was all strapped and seated,
Like a prisoner, justice meted,
Gummy shouted "CLEAR" and started
Up the engine. It sort of.......hesitated.
Then roared to life and smooth as purring,
We taxied to the runway luring.
And I thought to myself as we S-turned along,
I could not, should not, Gummy Bear!
Go upside-downish ANYWHERE!
A nice old runup we employed,
And an up sharp takeoff we enjoyed.
The power, Oh, the Rocket power!
It felt like we could leap a tower.
Gummy made that airplane zoom
In a sky of insufficient room
For airplanes made of stuff like that.
It was then that Gummy began to chat
Of crisp controls and snappy rolls.
If I'd take the stick and test them out,
I'd be surprised; I'd have to shout.
So I grabbed the stick, moved to and fro,
And back and forth, and high and low,
But Gummy thought I'd been too timid,
So he, himself, showed me the limits.
"Wow!" I thought, and, "Yikes!" I squealed.
The plane responded, banked and wheeled,
And then he said, "It's time to ROLL!
Are you ready, Dotty? Here we go!"
Would I? Could I? Did I dare?
Why should I fear it, Gummy Bear?
I grabbed his seat and closed my eyes.
Then it was over, a swift surprise.
I couldn't believe it had happened so fast,
And I, still alive, was sorry it passed,
And also, doggone, it happened TOO fast!
So -
I asked if we could try it again,
And Gummy said, "Sure, let's speed up the plane."
Determined to keep my eyes open this time,
Before I knew it, we'd spun on a dime.
(I was glad I didn't wear a scarf,
for into it I'd have had to barf.
Just kidding, my friends, it wasn't half bad.
If you get to try it, you sure won't be sad.)
We drilled the air.
We spun up there.
We turned and zipped,
And rolled and flipped.
We really did it, Gummy Bear!
We upside-downed it way up there!
Old hat for you, but new to me,
Imagination filled with glee
At all the stuff this plane could do-
rolls, steep climbs and speedily, too!
But now it's over, we must return.
Young Eagles to fly. They want to learn.
So back we go and down we land,
A greaser for sure, done with Gummy's fine hand
A pilot's life is filled with joy
When the air becomes a giant toy.
Unlikely upside down I'd dare...
So -
I'm glad you asked me, Gummy Bear.
************************************************
Tom "GummiBear" Gummo
Wild Weasel #1573
http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket-II
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| Subject: | Re: Electronic Ignition and starting problems |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LARRY ADAMSON" <rvhi03@msn.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: SCOTT SPENCER
Subject: Re: RV-List: Electronic Ignition and starting problems
--> RV-List message posted by: SCOTT SPENCER <aerokinetic@sbcglobal.net>
>I have a small 12V sealed backup battery going in along with the Dynon (don't
like the internal idea). It isn't enough to start the engine, but I have the >intention
to add a switch to supply power to the battery solenoid after such a
start, so as to close it and then be able to charge the main battery (an Odyssey
>-they *are* great)
>I welcome input...
Figure in getting some power to the alternator field also.............................just
in case you haven't thought about it.
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--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
In a message dated 1/29/05 8:39:01 PM Pacific Standard Time,
flyboy.bob@gmail.com writes:
<< Hi Len,
I bought mine from Eric Jones - www.PerihelionDesign.com . . . a
little pricey but a neat, simple, self-contained unit that is easy to
install . . . I hooked in up on the bench with my landing lights and
it worked as advertised! >>
I also have one of Eric's wig wag modules and it works great so far. It's a
small fraction of the size and weight of other wig wag set ups I have seen
and, unless Eric has had to increase his price quite a bit, it was very
reasonably priced. I am using 50 watt bulbs in my Duck Works lights but Eric claims
that his module will handle 250 watt lights with no trouble. The tower can spot
me in the haze much further out than with the landing lights on steady so I'm
happy with mine.
Harry Crosby
Pleasanton, California
RV-6, flying!
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| Subject: | Electronic Ignition and starting problems |
--> RV-List message posted by: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com>
>dzavadil@hometownaccess.net wrote:
>I've got a 6A with an 0-320 with dual Electoair ignition.
>I had lot of problems with kickback on starting that I attributed ...................
First STOP: You will break something soon, OUCH.
As you mention, reduced electrical power during start with dual electronic ignition
can be a problem. It is not uncommon. Electronic ignition (Electroair) are
sensitive to low volts for proper operation. A large Capacitor or an extra battery
as you suggest can eliminate this issue. You may have other problems, but
it sounds like a prime cause. Inductive electronic ignitions like the Electroair
do need more juice to work than CDI ignitions.
By all means call Jeff Rose, nice Guy, He will be of help and support you 100%
http://exp-aircraft.com/vendors/electroa.html
Next look at sky-tec, I know you have a different brand but good info here:
http://www.skytecair.com/Tech_Talk.htm
http://www.skytecair.com/images/Troubleshooting%20Diagram_5.0.pdf
Take Care G.
---------------------------------
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| Subject: | Dual Electronic Starting Issues |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Duane Zavadil" <dzavadil@hometownaccess.net>
Trouble getting this post into the thread.
I lied, it is an Odessy 925, not a 725. Since it fit in the box for the old lead
acid, weighed about the same as the old lead acid, and given the dual electronic
setup, I thought it prudent to go as big as I could. The plane has Sensinich
fixed metal prop and is always preheated for anything less than 35 degrees.
I've tried the "crank then switch on method" and haven't had any kickbacks but
it is pretty awkward as this is also a fuel injected plane an I have to fidget
with the mixture at the same time.
After digesting these and the responses on the RV-list, I think I'll try the second
battery approach and as suggested, supply one ignition system from each battery.
I can leave the ignition powered by the main battery off for starting.
I feel that second battery is useful from a safety standpoint on a dual electronic
plane.
But that being said, I can't wait to get something like a B&C or that new inline
starter on the plane. I've missed a few flights due to starter issues and never
had any other mechanical issue with the plane. Plane foolishness to leave
the boat anchor on there.
I'll let all know what happens....
Sent via the WebMail system at hometownaccess.net
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| Subject: | New RV7A Rudder - proseal stiffeners |
--> RV-List message posted by: JTAnon@aol.com
Reference: The new RV7A rudder
Two questions:
1) Does one prime first if using proseal between the stiffeners and skin to
avoid cracking as many recommend? That is will proseal stick to the primer or
should I have bare metal surfaces to start?
2) I assume we still use the glob of the proper type of RTV down at the
Trailing edge of each pair of stiffeners prior to closing up the rudder. Correct?
John McD RV7A
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| Subject: | Re: New RV7A Rudder - proseal stiffeners |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
use proseal on all of it.....skip the RTV. Proseal is a pretty darn good
glue. I would defiantly NOT prime before applying the sealant...just scuff
up the skin in that area with a red scotchbrite pad. Then wipe it down with
MEK and you are good to go. You can paint over the sealant if you want
to....but you would have to take the works through the priming process right
up until you are ready to paint...then do the proseal, then paint. (you
should wait a week or so for the sealant to set up before painting it)
Cheers....
Evan Johnson
www.evansaviationproducts.com
(530)247-0375
(530)351-1776 cell
----- Original Message -----
From: <JTAnon@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: New RV7A Rudder - proseal stiffeners
> --> RV-List message posted by: JTAnon@aol.com
>
> Reference: The new RV7A rudder
>
> Two questions:
>
> 1) Does one prime first if using proseal between the stiffeners and skin
to
> avoid cracking as many recommend? That is will proseal stick to the
primer or
> should I have bare metal surfaces to start?
>
> 2) I assume we still use the glob of the proper type of RTV down at the
> Trailing edge of each pair of stiffeners prior to closing up the rudder.
Correct?
>
> John McD RV7A
>
>
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| Subject: | RV/Rocket Steering Link |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Gray <n747jg@earthlink.net>
Did anybody out there ever have any success getting in touch with the
guy who sells the RV/Rocket Steering Link tailwheel assembly?
Thanks,
Jim Gray
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| Subject: | Andair Air/Oil Seperator |
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--> RV-List message posted by: <dwhite17@columbus.rr.com>
Can anyone tell me a good way to mount the Andair Air/Oil Separator? Did you
clamp it to the firewall, make a mounting bracket and mount with the four screw
holes or what?
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| Subject: | RV/Rocket Steering Link |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Andre Berthet" <aberthet@sbcglobal.net>
Jim,
Turbo Tom, who tragically passed away last week in a car accident had posted
the following info about the Jantzi Steering Link:
---------------------------------
Terry Jantzi, who is inventor and manufacture of the Jantzi Steering Link
has decided that due to other projects and commitments that he is unable to
give the time needed to market and sell the Steering Link. I think time has
shown that the Jantzi Steering Link is great product. I am a friend of
Terry's and a fellow builder. I am currently just completing an F1 Rocket
parts kit. Terry and I have come to an agreement for myself to purchase the
rights to the Jantzi Steering Link. The transaction will take a little time
to put together but I hope to begin filling orders by mid February. A web
site should be coming online shortly. I will notify you of the details as
they come together.
I can be contacted at:
Wayne Hadath
23 Jadestone Crt
Kitchener, Ontario
Canada, N2A 3X7
Phone 519-648-3375
Fax 519-648-3375
Cell 519-589-8352
----------------------------------
Andre Berthet
Pleasanton, CA
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jim Gray <n747jg@earthlink.net>
>
> Did anybody out there ever have any success getting in touch with the
> guy who sells the RV/Rocket Steering Link tailwheel assembly?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim Gray
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| Subject: | Van's master relay |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dave" <dford@michweb.net>
I've been having an intermittent voltage dropout where all avionics go dead or
reset depending if voltage comes right back which it does sometimes. I believe
that the Van's master relay is dropping out. It sometimes happens with normal
load, sometimes as I key the radio mic. Have had to reset master relay off
to on a couple times. Just wondering if anyone has had problems with a master
relay from Van's?
Dave Ford
RV6
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| Subject: | Re: Van's master relay |
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
In a message dated 01/30/2005 9:10:19 PM Central Standard Time,
dford@michweb.net writes:
I've been having an intermittent voltage dropout where all avionics go dead
or reset depending if voltage comes right back which it does sometimes. I
believe that the Van's master relay is dropping out. It sometimes happens with
normal load, sometimes as I key the radio mic. Have had to reset master relay
off to on a couple times. Just wondering if anyone has had problems with a
master relay from Van's?
>>>>
Hi Dan-
Not familiar with Van's relay, but I doubt it's much different from any of
the others. These things are pretty stone-simple, and I would suspect your
problem is elsewhere. Have you checked all of your connections to verify they
are
tight and that all crimped connectors are solid? (yank them wires!)
Particularly the wire from the relay to the master switch and its ground. Also
no
ground paths at the master switch terminals (or loose switch) where they might
short to the panel or adjacent stuff. Does anything happen when you jiggle the
master switch? (possible bad/corroded switch contacts or weak spring) Does it
happen only when the engine is running, on the ground, in the hangar, only on
Mondays and Thursdays? Can you beat on the panel or firewall and cause the
dropout? Assuming a Main/E-bus configuration, does anything on the other bus
drop out as well? If your starter contactor is fed from the master contactor,
I
doubt you have a problem with the contacts in the master as these things
carry all your starter current sucessfully (assuming you've cranked the engine)
A decent diagnostic may be to connect some kind of audible device (cheapo jap
shack buzzer, car radio etc.) to one of your e-bus fuses (or other points in
your system as you narrow it down) and starting at the battery, start yanking
on connections/wires following feed paths (including master switch
connections) to see if the audio drops out. Ditto for all grounds.
Hope some of this is helpful and good luck!
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Van's master relay |
--> RV-List message posted by: Larry Olson <lolson@doitnow.com>
Yes, I have.
At about 150hrs.
Bought a new one from Van's.
Problem went away.
Let me know if you find a higher quality unit.
I couldn't find a negative feed for activation unit available locally from
Echlin (NAPA)
Larry Olson
RV6 DVT
At 10:07 PM 1/30/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dave" <dford@michweb.net>
>
>I've been having an intermittent voltage dropout where all avionics go
>dead or reset depending if voltage comes right back which it does
>sometimes. I believe that the Van's master relay is dropping out. It
>sometimes happens with normal load, sometimes as I key the radio
>mic. Have had to reset master relay off to on a couple times. Just
>wondering if anyone has had problems with a master relay from Van's?
>
>Dave Ford
>RV6
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Van's master relay |
--> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
I had one fail at only 15 hours! Like I did not have enough to worry about
with test flights...
Kim Nicholas
RV9A 23 hours.
Seattle
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