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1. 05:02 AM - Re: Why the Vans Service Bulletin - TIP UP Canopy 7 and 9s...? (Kelly Patterson)
2. 06:06 AM - Re: Landing Lights (Bryan Jones)
3. 06:33 AM - Re: Van's master relay....excuse this post (Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club)
4. 07:03 AM - Re: Landing Lights (Larry Pardue)
5. 07:19 AM - Re: Question for Das Fed: Aux fuel gauge? (Mike Robertson)
6. 07:40 AM - Re: Landing Lights (Dan Checkoway)
7. 08:16 AM - Using car gas and getting a refund from the state road tax (Dan DeNeal)
8. 08:35 AM - Re: Landing Lights (Larry Bowen)
9. 08:41 AM - crankshaft expansion plug std 1211 install ? (BillRVSIX@aol.com)
10. 08:47 AM - Re: Why the Vans Service Bulletin - TIP UP Canopy 7 and 9s...? (Dan Checkoway)
11. 08:58 AM - Re: Using car gas and getting a refund from the state road tax (cgalley)
12. 10:20 AM - Re: Using car gas and getting a refund from the state road tax (SportAV8R@aol.com)
13. 10:27 AM - Re: Landing Lights (Jeff Dowling)
14. 10:50 AM - Landing Lights (Bryan Jones)
15. 11:23 AM - Pictures on the Net (MLWynn@aol.com)
16. 11:41 AM - Re: Pictures on the Net (Ed Holyoke)
17. 12:07 PM - Re: Landing Lights (James H Nelson)
18. 12:15 PM - Re: Pictures on the Net (John Spicer)
19. 12:18 PM - Re: Pictures on the Net (Glaeser, Dennis A)
20. 12:53 PM - Re: crankshaft expansion plug std 1211 install ? (Bordelon, Greg)
21. 01:48 PM - Re: Landing Lights (Dean)
22. 03:21 PM - Re:Rv-List: Real Tie Weather... (emrath@comcast.net)
23. 04:18 PM - Re: Re:Rv-List: Real Tie Weather... (Doug Rozendaal)
24. 05:24 PM - Re: Pictures on the Net (Paul Besing)
25. 05:49 PM - Re: Shutdown problems and fuel selector valve (Phil Birkelbach)
26. 07:32 PM - Re: Landing Lights (Bobby Hester)
27. 07:55 PM - For Sale delete if not interested (smoothweasel@juno.com)
28. 08:13 PM - castle nut - bolt line-up (sarg314)
29. 08:51 PM - Re: Landing Lights (Jeff Bertsch)
30. 09:11 PM - Re: castle nut - bolt line-up (Larry Bowen)
31. 09:24 PM - Re: Landing Lights (Dean)
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| Subject: | Re: Why the Vans Service Bulletin - TIP UP Canopy 7 and 9s...? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kelly Patterson" <kbob@cox.net>
I went back out and took another good look to see if I can explain better
how this works (email is the worst way sometimes!)
Structurally you can ignore the bulkhead for this problem, it has no
strength.
There is a vertical rib attachment at the bulkhead backside. There is a
horizontal angle attachment at the bulkhead front side. They connect in
what looks like a plus sign, and have maybe 2 or 3 rivets in common and they
are in tension, not shear (which is what rivets do best).
Van's said 3 is not enough and tension is not good. So the new design has
12 or more rivets in shear, or (4) 3/16" screws.
Hope this helps.
Kelly
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> The original design has a *potential* failure if you flip the airplane
> on it's back. The load (from front to back) must travel through the
channel -
> into the angle - up the bulkhead - then back through the top skin.
> This means there is a 3/4" jog in the load path and the bulkhead is a
> poor member
For whatever reason, I'm having a hard time visualizing this "jog" --
there's a rib that runs along the center of that top skin. The angle which
the channel rivets to is riveted directly to the rib (the bulkhead happens
to be sandwiched in between). From where I sit, the load is transmitted:
- roll bar
- channel
- angle
- RIB
- top skin
If you take that rib out of the picture, sure, I can clearly see the "jog"
issue...but with the rib serving to translate the load from the angle to the
top skin, seems to me anything else is superfluous. But that's why I'm NOT
an engineer, I guess. Maybe somebody who knows what he's talking about can
set me straight.
do not archive
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Bryan Jones" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
Yea, me too. Added another 3 years afterward.
Do both wings. You'll wish you had later. Much easier to do before paint.
Bryan
do not archive
>
>I have decided to install only one leading edge landing light from
>Duckworks.
>Is there a convention for which wing?
>I'm thinking the right wing.
>Thoughts/Comments
>
>Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: Van's master relay....excuse this post |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
This post was intended for Mark and I didnt intend to waste the time of
the RV list
So Sorry...
do not archive
Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
>
>Mark/Micki Phillips wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Mark/Micki Phillips" <mphill@gcctv.com>
>>
>>Phil!!!!!!!!!!!! How about some updates
>>
>>
>>
>>
>OK......... I had a fuel pump that needed replaced. I think I told you...
>I got one off ebay that I am sure is new. It is installed and all hooked up.
>I have not run it yet to see its performance. I have about three point
>three hours on it at this time.
>Not flying much because off weather but when weather is good, I have
>been flying with Don Murphy who bought the 6 out in AZ. We brought it
>back in about 8 hours flying time from Kingman. It was a rea l pretty
>trip home, we passed three snow capped peaks. His airplane was shitting
>and getting coming home.
>We flew at 9500 feet most of the way except around Albequerque, we went
>to 11500.
>Van now has the upper and lower gear leg intersection fairings so I
>ordered a set.. Then I will put gear fairings back on. I did some speed
>runs up at 9500 feet and I am truing out at about 190.
>This also verifies with four directional runs that averaged out to 190
>ground speed. I think when I get the fairings on it, it will do pretty
>close to 200 at altitude....
>
>I need to go back to work so I will have more time. We are planning for
>Sun and Fun now. I guess there will be about four RV going down together...
>
>I have been doing a little picking. I am working on boil dem Cabbage
>down. I am not fast and not hitting all the notes right yet but it is
>starting to come to me. Still singing on Friday nights.
>Three weeks ago, I "butchered" a song on the radio oh well only about
>10000 people were listening...... They dont know me.......I started out
>in the wrong key and I couldnt hit the note right. My old lady said it
>sounded very bad...... What does she know about singing?
>
>I hope to fly some this week. Tomorrow, I have to go to SPI FAA to get
>CFI renewed. Then I will be good for two more years on it. Also getting
>repairmans certificat for RV6........
>
>Thats all. Phil
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Lights |
--> RV-List message posted by: Larry Pardue <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "David Fenstermacher"
> <dfenstermacher@earthlink.net>
>
> I have decided to install only one leading edge landing light from Duckworks.
> Is there a convention for which wing?
> I'm thinking the right wing.
You don't say what kind of airplane. In my tail dragger I can not see much
at all to the opposite (right) side, when I'm on the ground. If I had a
landing light over there it would be a complete waste.
Larry Pardue
Carlsbad, NM
RV-6 N441LP Flying
http://n5lp.net
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| Subject: | Question for Das Fed: Aux fuel gauge? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
Charlie,
There is nothing required by the regs as long as the mains have a fuel level
indicator. We are planning on doing the same thing on our RV-9A that you
are doing .
Mike
>From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: RV list <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Question for Das Fed: Aux fuel gauge?
>Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 22:02:12 -0600
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
>
>I'm preparing to close a pair of aux tanks & need some advice on the
>requirements for gauges on aux fuel tanks.
>Is any gauge required if the aux tank simply feeds a main tank?
>If yes, is a simple empty indicator sufficient?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Charlie
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Lights |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> You don't say what kind of airplane. In my tail dragger I can not see
much
> at all to the opposite (right) side, when I'm on the ground. If I had a
> landing light over there it would be a complete waste.
I'm in the same boat...like you said, when the tail is down I can't see much
on the right side at night. But! I have the right wing landing light
rigged for tail-UP. When I land (wheel land, almost always), the right
light is doing the work. Tail comes down, the left light takes over. When
I take off, as I fly the tail the right light comes into play. I find that
with the taildragger especially, you almost need both of those lights,
rigged differently for different angles.
FWIW, I'm glad I have two. Not to mention wig-wag (be seen), which is
almost a higher priority given that only about 5-10% of my flying in the RV
has been at night.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (365 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
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| Subject: | Using car gas and getting a refund from the state road tax |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dan DeNeal <rv6apilot@yahoo.com>
A friend of mine has just started flying his RV9 with a subaru engine. He told
me yesterday that he can get a refund from the state (Illinois) for $0.19 a gallon
when he buys car gas from Casey's because it includes a road tax and since
he is not using it on the road (Hopefully).
Another friend said he checked into it and his accountant said the state will charge
him an aviation tax on the car gas used and that is higher than the road
tax.
Any thoughts?
Dan DeNeal
rv6a N256GD
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Lights |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I recently did this too. One side is useful in a tail-low position, the
other side, tail up. On short final they are both somewhat useful. Only
tested at dusk so far....
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
Larry Pardue said:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Larry Pardue <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com>
>
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: "David Fenstermacher"
>> <dfenstermacher@earthlink.net>
>>
>> I have decided to install only one leading edge landing light from
>> Duckworks.
>> Is there a convention for which wing?
>> I'm thinking the right wing.
>
> You don't say what kind of airplane. In my tail dragger I can not see
> much
> at all to the opposite (right) side, when I'm on the ground. If I had a
> landing light over there it would be a complete waste.
>
> Larry Pardue
> Carlsbad, NM
>
> RV-6 N441LP Flying
> http://n5lp.net
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| Subject: | crankshaft expansion plug std 1211 install ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: BillRVSIX@aol.com
Hello i am about to pull the front expansion plug on my new lycoming engine
so i can put a hole in the rear plug for a fixed pitch prop.(service
instructions No. 1435) What my question is when i reinstall the new front expansion
plug in the crankshaft do i use any type of sealant around the edge or put it
in dry. thanks for any info
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Why the Vans Service Bulletin - TIP UP Canopy 7 and 9s...? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> There is a vertical rib attachment at the bulkhead backside. There is a
> horizontal angle attachment at the bulkhead front side. They connect in
> what looks like a plus sign, and have maybe 2 or 3 rivets in common and
they
> are in tension, not shear (which is what rivets do best).
Yeah, there's the vertical rib, but then there's also the horizontal rib
that runs longitudinally (dorsally?) along the top skin. That horizontal
rib rivets directly to the bulkhead and the channel attach angle can
translate its load directly to it.
I dug through my photos and found this one:
http://images.rvproject.com/images/2002/20021210_f787_clecoed.jpg
And here's another shot from behind that shows how that rib ties into the
junction:
http://images.rvproject.com/images/2003/20030928_riveted_bottom_two.jpg
I'm still at a loss for understanding why that rib doesn't already serve the
same purpose that the SB serves.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
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| Subject: | Re: Using car gas and getting a refund from the state road tax |
--> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
I used to be the case that one could get a refund of the highway tax an
motor fuel used off road, I.E. flying but that was changed over 20 years ago
by the State of Illinois. We used to pay our annual inspection costs via
the refund.
Cy Galley
EAA Safety Programs Editor
Always looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan DeNeal" <rv6apilot@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV-List: Using car gas and getting a refund from the state road tax
> --> RV-List message posted by: Dan DeNeal <rv6apilot@yahoo.com>
>
>
> A friend of mine has just started flying his RV9 with a subaru engine. He
told me yesterday that he can get a refund from the state (Illinois) for
$0.19 a gallon when he buys car gas from Casey's because it includes a road
tax and since he is not using it on the road (Hopefully).
>
> Another friend said he checked into it and his accountant said the state
will charge him an aviation tax on the car gas used and that is higher than
the road tax.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Dan DeNeal
>
> rv6a N256GD
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Using car gas and getting a refund from the state road tax |
--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
I get such a refund from Virginia every year, no questions asked (I do send them
the original purchase receipts and a state gov form to claim the refund).
-BB do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Lights |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
You can save some money by buying redneck halogen spotlights from Walmart.
I think they're 20 bucks for 2. Just remove the plastic/glass lens covers
and side frames. I purchased the pre bent leading edge lenses from Vans to
make it easier instead of bending my own but you can do that as well.
Shemp/Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
150 hours
Chicago/Louisville
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Landing Lights
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> I recently did this too. One side is useful in a tail-low position, the
> other side, tail up. On short final they are both somewhat useful. Only
> tested at dusk so far....
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
> Larry Pardue said:
>> --> RV-List message posted by: Larry Pardue <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com>
>>
>>
>>> --> RV-List message posted by: "David Fenstermacher"
>>> <dfenstermacher@earthlink.net>
>>>
>>> I have decided to install only one leading edge landing light from
>>> Duckworks.
>>> Is there a convention for which wing?
>>> I'm thinking the right wing.
>>
>> You don't say what kind of airplane. In my tail dragger I can not see
>> much
>> at all to the opposite (right) side, when I'm on the ground. If I had a
>> landing light over there it would be a complete waste.
>>
>> Larry Pardue
>> Carlsbad, NM
>>
>> RV-6 N441LP Flying
>> http://n5lp.net
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Bryan Jones" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
I bought Halogen lamps off the Internet (4 each MR16 with front glass,
http://www.1000bulbs.com/category.php?category=391). Made an adjustable
mount out of scrap aluminum, springs and some fastners. Used Lexan from
Home Depot formed over a plug for the LE covers. Now have 200-watts of
light . Inboard 2 lights facing ahead, outboard 2 lights facing inward and
down. All cost me about $75-80 as I recall. Can land on an unlit strip
should I have to. My flying buddies say I'm lit up like an airliner.
Originally, I went to this configuration because the lights at my home strip
are unreliable and I occasionally need to get in after dark. But other
benefits have become apparent when flying around airports in general.
Anytime the tower or others are looking for me, I just hit the landing
lights and 90% of the time (when I'm headed their way) they spot me
immediately.
Bryan -8
do not archive
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
>
>You can save some money by buying redneck halogen spotlights from Walmart.
>I think they're 20 bucks for 2. Just remove the plastic/glass lens covers
>and side frames. I purchased the pre bent leading edge lenses from Vans to
>make it easier instead of bending my own but you can do that as well.
>
>Shemp/Jeff Dowling
>RV-6A, N915JD
>150 hours
>Chicago/Louisville
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Landing Lights
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
> >
> > I recently did this too. One side is useful in a tail-low position, the
> > other side, tail up. On short final they are both somewhat useful.
>Only
> > tested at dusk so far....
> >
> > -
> > Larry Bowen
> > Larry@BowenAero.com
> > http://BowenAero.com
> >
> > Larry Pardue said:
> >> --> RV-List message posted by: Larry Pardue <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com>
> >>
> >>
> >>> --> RV-List message posted by: "David Fenstermacher"
> >>> <dfenstermacher@earthlink.net>
> >>>
> >>> I have decided to install only one leading edge landing light from
> >>> Duckworks.
> >>> Is there a convention for which wing?
> >>> I'm thinking the right wing.
> >>
> >> You don't say what kind of airplane. In my tail dragger I can not see
> >> much
> >> at all to the opposite (right) side, when I'm on the ground. If I had
>a
> >> landing light over there it would be a complete waste.
> >>
> >> Larry Pardue
> >> Carlsbad, NM
> >>
> >> RV-6 N441LP Flying
> >> http://n5lp.net
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| Subject: | Pictures on the Net |
--> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
Hi all,
While I was recently obsessing about rib fluting, someone made the
suggestion of posting a picture. Easy enough to take a digital photo. What is
the
protocol for posting? Photos are very data intensive and I can't believe that
they would want them here. So so I make a web site and post, put them in a
photo album somewhere? What's the best thing to do?
Regards,
Michael Wynn
RV-8 Empennage
San Ramon
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| Subject: | Pictures on the Net |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" <bicyclop@pacbell.net>
Michael,
Scroll down your post to the Matronics info and click on:
Photo Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
There Ya have it.
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MLWynn@aol.com
Subject: RV-List: Pictures on the Net
--> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
Hi all,
While I was recently obsessing about rib fluting, someone made the
suggestion of posting a picture. Easy enough to take a digital photo.
What is the
protocol for posting? Photos are very data intensive and I can't
believe that
they would want them here. So so I make a web site and post, put them
in a
photo album somewhere? What's the best thing to do?
Regards,
Michael Wynn
RV-8 Empennage
San Ramon
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Lights |
--> RV-List message posted by: James H Nelson <rv9jim@juno.com>
Dave,
If you are flying from the left seat, then the right wing is the
best. This is due to the shadows thrown from the light will give you the
best picture of what is in front of you and its relative size. For
example, take a flash light at a dark night and shine it directly from
your eyes to an area in front of you. then move the light off to the
right by extending your right arm at full length and look at the same
area. You will see the difference immediately. Just MHO.
Jim
N599RV (reserved)
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| Subject: | Re: Pictures on the Net |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Spicer" <spike@spikesplace.org>
There are people around who sometimes will lend server space to list users, etc.
I don't mind in the slightest if people from the matronics lists want to use the
free galleries over at www.rivetbangers.com. Its all for the RV community so
feel free to make use of it. We have information in the support forum on how to
upload photos. Feel free to use it or ask questions.
-- John S.
spike@rivetbangers.com
spike@spikesplace.org
www.rivetbangers.com - A marriage of web and mail, building more than just RVs
www.spikesplace.org/cgi-php/serendipity - My 9A Builder's log
----- Original Message -----
From: <MLWynn@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: Pictures on the Net
> --> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
>
> Hi all,
>
> While I was recently obsessing about rib fluting, someone made the
> suggestion of posting a picture. Easy enough to take a digital photo. What
is the
> protocol for posting? Photos are very data intensive and I can't believe
that
> they would want them here. So so I make a web site and post, put them in a
> photo album somewhere? What's the best thing to do?
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael Wynn
> RV-8 Empennage
> San Ramon
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Pictures on the Net |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Glaeser, Dennis A" <dennis.glaeser@eds.com>
Michael,
You can't attach things to these messages, so there are basically 2 options:
1) Use the Photoshare section of this list
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare <http://www.matronics.com/photoshare> .
After you upload the picture, you can announce it in a message.
2) Put the picture up on your own website and put a link to it in a message.
This is the most common solution.
Dennis Glaeser
Hi all,
While I was recently obsessing about rib fluting, someone made the
suggestion of posting a picture. Easy enough to take a digital
photo. What is
the
protocol for posting? Photos are very data intensive and I can't
believe that
they would want them here. So so I make a web site and post, put
them in a
photo album somewhere? What's the best thing to do?
Regards,
Michael Wynn
RV-8 Empennage
San Ramon
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| Subject: | crankshaft expansion plug std 1211 install ? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bordelon, Greg" <gbordelon@hess.com>
I put mine it with a light smear of "non hardening" permatex. This has
proven to be leak free.
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
BillRVSIX@aol.com
Subject: RV-List: crankshaft expansion plug std 1211 install ?
--> RV-List message posted by: BillRVSIX@aol.com
Hello i am about to pull the front expansion plug on my new lycoming
engine
so i can put a hole in the rear plug for a fixed pitch prop.(service
instructions No. 1435) What my question is when i reinstall the new
front expansion
plug in the crankshaft do i use any type of sealant around the edge or
put it
in dry. thanks for any info
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Lights |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dean" <dvanwinkle@royell.net>
Dave
I would suggest going with two lights, one on each side with separate
switches and fuses. Bulbs do fail and the second light, even if it is the
one aimed for taxi use, could save you from experiencing one of those "dark
and stormy night" scenarios that we all read about.
Dean Van Winkle
RV-9A Fus/Finish Landing and Taxi Lights
----- Original Message -----
From: "James H Nelson" <rv9jim@juno.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Landing Lights
> --> RV-List message posted by: James H Nelson <rv9jim@juno.com>
>
> Dave,
> If you are flying from the left seat, then the right wing is the
> best. This is due to the shadows thrown from the light will give you the
> best picture of what is in front of you and its relative size. For
> example, take a flash light at a dark night and shine it directly from
> your eyes to an area in front of you. then move the light off to the
> right by extending your right arm at full length and look at the same
> area. You will see the difference immediately. Just MHO.
>
> Jim
> N599RV (reserved)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re:Rv-List: Real Tie Weather... |
--> RV-List message posted by: emrath@comcast.net
Doug, please tell us more. How have you hooked this up, is your LT-600 panel mounted?
I just attended a local EAA meeting on this subject and our man has WxWorx
on a tablet PC (available for $2000 and you have another full computer for
when you travel - his has wifi installed and bluetooth stuff to eliminate cables).
A bit big for an RV, but the Fujitsu or Sony U50 were other good platforms
recommended. Not cheap as our man has $5000 invested. He flies a great
A36 Bonaza, a lot, and can really make use of the info./investment, even on those
local flights of 100 miles. I agree this is a BIG DEAL! Our groups predicts
this will be as revolutionary as GPS, maybe more so. Costs will drop over
the next several years and entry will not be as steep. I've received an email
from the Bonaza list about Control Vision's version and execution and from
the opinon expressed therein, they are not ready just yet (not my opinion but
this my be my option today for use in a RV-6A).
Marty in Brentwood.
Time: 09:37:38 PM PST US
From: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Real Time Weather...
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
I too have been on WX worx with a fujitsu LT-600 since Sept, and I would no more
fly in the weather without it than I would fly at night without a flashlight.
Could I? yes to both, but why would I????
I have said before, I think here, 70% of aviation accidents are WX related. GPS
is great, but we were not crashing because we got lost. With WX worx, if you
fly into a TRW, it was because you chose to do it. This is a REALLY BIG
DEAL!!!!!
Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
dougr@petroblend.com
www.petroblend.com/dougr
Doug, please tell us more. How have you hooked this up, is your LT-600 panel mounted?
I just attended a local EAA meeting on this subject and our man has WxWorx
on a tablet PC (available for $2000 and you have another full computer for
when you travel - his has wifi installed and bluetooth stuff to eliminate cables).
A bit big for an RV, but the Fujitsu or Sony U50 were othergood platforms
recommended. Not cheap as our man has $5000 invested. He flies a great A36 Bonaza,
a lot, and can really make use of the info./investment, even on those local
flights of 100 miles. I agree this is a BIG DEAL! Our groups predicts this
will be as revolutionary as GPS, maybe more so. Costs will drop over the next
several years and entry will not be as steep. I've received an email from the
Bonaza listabout Control Vision's version and execution and from the opinon
expressed therein, they are not ready just yet (not my opini
onbut this my be my option today for usein a RV-6A).
Marty in Brentwood.
Time: 09:37:38 PM PST US
From: "Doug Rozendaal" dougr@petroblend.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: Real Time Weather...
-- RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" dougr@petroblend.com
I too have been on WX worx with a fujitsu LT-600 since Sept, and I would no more
fly in the weather without it than I would fly at night without a flashlight.
Could I? yes to both, but why would I????
I have said before, I think here, 70% of aviation accidents are WX related. GPS
is great, but we were not crashing because we got lost. With WX worx, i
f you
fly into a TRW, it was because you chose to do it. This is a REALLY BIG
DEAL!!!!!
Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
dougr@petroblend.com
www.petroblend.com/dougr
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| Subject: | Re:Rv-List: Real Tie Weather... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
As I have confessed here before, Rozendaal is Dutch. (so is Van Grunsven)
Copper wire was invented when 2 Dutchmen found a penny.
I bought my Fujitsiu on ebay for $600 bucks (big bargain I know) and it was
like new.
The Wx Worx reciever is ~$1200 withe the mapping software and the GPS and
both are essential.
Do not hard mount a Tablet because you need to be able to move the screen to
eliminate glare. I have a friend who bought an xplore 104 rugged tablet.
It is the real deal in an bigger airplane, but the RV-4 with IFR charts, and
all the stuff that I keep within reach, makes for a very crowded cockpit.
The Fujitsu works well in My -4 but anything bigger would not.
I mounted the reciever, USB hub, computer power supply in an old lowrance
GPS carrying case that I had so I have a place to coil all the cords and
antennas. It really works slick.
The worst part of this whole deal is, that by OSH next year, I am certain my
system will be obsolete, when Lowrance or Garmin incorporates this
technology in a Handheld GPS unit.
Tailwinds,
Doug Rozendaal
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| Subject: | Pictures on the Net |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
Michael, we are working on a new version of Kitlog, which should be out in
the coming weeks. It will have a way to post your builder's log to our
website, for no additional charge. This way you can accomplish your
builder's log and a website at one time.
Stay tuned. We are in final development of this version, and our new
website.
Paul Besing
RV-6A Sold
RV-10 Soon
Kitlog Builder's Software
www.kitlog.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of MLWynn@aol.com
Subject: RV-List: Pictures on the Net
--> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
Hi all,
While I was recently obsessing about rib fluting, someone made the
suggestion of posting a picture. Easy enough to take a digital photo.
What is the
protocol for posting? Photos are very data intensive and I can't believe
that
they would want them here. So so I make a web site and post, put them in a
photo album somewhere? What's the best thing to do?
Regards,
Michael Wynn
RV-8 Empennage
San Ramon
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| Subject: | Re: Shutdown problems and fuel selector valve |
--> RV-List message posted by: Phil Birkelbach <phil@petrasoft.net>
I know this is a little late but I've been out of town.
Closing the fuel valve shuts off the supply to both pumps. This is
generally very hard on a pump. You probably don't have the electric
pump running but you may damage the engine driven pump. At least this
is the case on the bigger pumps and compressors that I work with in my
day job.
I don't know who "most people" are but the people that designed the AFP
fuel injection system say that it should be shutdown with the purge valve.
Godspeed,
Phil Birkelbach
RV-7 N727WB
http://www.myrv7.com
Jason Sneed wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Jason Sneed <n242ds@cox.net>
>
>I have been having trouble shutting down my engine, the first case I
>had was a slipping mixture cable but now the engine does not stop at
>idle cut off and when the prop does stop it just starts turning the
>opposite direction. so I finally removed the fuel control servo and I
>am shipping it back to airflow performance. I spoke with the builder of
>my airplane and he mentioned he had the same problem shutting down at
>one point and he just would turn the fuel selector to off and when the
>engine began to starve he would shutdown and the engine would quit.
>
>so, I tried this approach before I removed the servo and no joy, the
>engine would stumble but not quit. I pushed the plane in the hangar and
>the fuel inlet hose and the outlet hose were both hanging from the
>engine.... Hummmm, I turned the fuel selector to off and hit the boost
>pump. Sure enough fuel was pouring out of the hose I let about a 1/2
>gallon run out to make sure it was really pumping fuel from the
>tanks...
>
>My question is.... Is this normal? I would think that if you turn the
>fuel selector to off then no fuel would go past the firewall.
>
>Don at airflow wants to sell me a purge valve but I really do not want
>to go that route because most people say it is really for hot starts
>not shutting down. Plus, I like to find the root of a problem not just
>spending more money to take care of a problem by added heavy expensive
>stuff.
>
>Any and all comment welcome!
>
>Jason
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Lights |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bobby Hester <bhester@hopkinsville.net>
Dean wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dean" <dvanwinkle@royell.net>
>
>Dave
>
>I would suggest going with two lights, one on each side with separate
>switches and fuses. Bulbs do fail and the second light, even if it is the
>one aimed for taxi use, could save you from experiencing one of those "dark
>and stormy night" scenarios that we all read about.
>
>Dean Van Winkle
>RV-9A Fus/Finish Landing and Taxi Lights
>
>
>
I installed one light (Duckworth) in each wing. I am planning on using
one switch Off-WigWag-On and running off one 20 amp fuse any reason not
to do this?
--
Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY
Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/
RV7A Slowbuild wings-QB Fuse :-)
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| Subject: | For Sale delete if not interested |
--> RV-List message posted by: smoothweasel@juno.com
I have a used Narco 810 VHF COM that I would like to get rid of. It is
complete with mounting tray and works great. I removed it for a GPS/COM
instalation If anyone needs a good radio let me know. If nobody if
interested in it I will advertise it to others but I thought I would
offer it to the EAA Chapter first.
Asking $650
Weasel
smoothweasel@juno.com
662 574 5210
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| Subject: | castle nut - bolt line-up |
--> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
I am trying to bolt the engine mount to the RV-6A firewall (not the
engine yet). The problem is that for most of the bolts I can't get the
hole for the cotter pin to line up with the slot in the castle nut and
still stay within the 160 - 190 in-lb torque range of the AN6 bolts. I
got some AN960-616L (1/32" thick) washers to no avail. Tom Green at
van's told me to start at the low end of the torque range and then
increase it slowly 10 in-lbs at a time until it lines up. That only
worked for 1 bolt.
Seems like the only 2 choices are
1- over torque the bolt till it lines up, or
2- get some odd thickness washer somehow.
Any suggestions? I *really* don't want to mistreat these bolts.
--
Tom Sargent, RV-6A.
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Lights |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Bertsch <noms1reqd@yahoo.com>
I can testify that Bryan's landing lights are amazing. I've flown formation at
night with him and they light up the inside of my cockpit so well I could read
a newspaper. It's a little spooky when he's on your six (which he usually is)
because it looks like a 747 is going to run over you.
Jeff Bertsch
Bryan Jones <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bryan Jones"
I bought Halogen lamps off the Internet (4 each MR16 with front glass,
http://www.1000bulbs.com/category.php?category=391). Made an adjustable
mount out of scrap aluminum, springs and some fastners. Used Lexan from
Home Depot formed over a plug for the LE covers. Now have 200-watts of
light . Inboard 2 lights facing ahead, outboard 2 lights facing inward and
down. All cost me about $75-80 as I recall. Can land on an unlit strip
should I have to. My flying buddies say I'm lit up like an airliner.
Originally, I went to this configuration because the lights at my home strip
are unreliable and I occasionally need to get in after dark. But other
benefits have become apparent when flying around airports in general.
Anytime the tower or others are looking for me, I just hit the landing
lights and 90% of the time (when I'm headed their way) they spot me
immediately.
Bryan -8
do not archive
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling"
>
>You can save some money by buying redneck halogen spotlights from Walmart.
>I think they're 20 bucks for 2. Just remove the plastic/glass lens covers
>and side frames. I purchased the pre bent leading edge lenses from Vans to
>make it easier instead of bending my own but you can do that as well.
>
>Shemp/Jeff Dowling
>RV-6A, N915JD
>150 hours
>Chicago/Louisville
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Larry Bowen"
>To:
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Landing Lights
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
> >
> > I recently did this too. One side is useful in a tail-low position, the
> > other side, tail up. On short final they are both somewhat useful.
>Only
> > tested at dusk so far....
> >
> > -
> > Larry Bowen
> > Larry@BowenAero.com
> > http://BowenAero.com
> >
> > Larry Pardue said:
> >> --> RV-List message posted by: Larry Pardue
> >>
> >>
> >>> --> RV-List message posted by: "David Fenstermacher"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I have decided to install only one leading edge landing light from
> >>> Duckworks.
> >>> Is there a convention for which wing?
> >>> I'm thinking the right wing.
> >>
> >> You don't say what kind of airplane. In my tail dragger I can not see
> >> much
> >> at all to the opposite (right) side, when I'm on the ground. If I had
>a
> >> landing light over there it would be a complete waste.
> >>
> >> Larry Pardue
> >> Carlsbad, NM
> >>
> >> RV-6 N441LP Flying
> >> http://n5lp.net
---------------------------------
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| Subject: | castle nut - bolt line-up |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Try different nuts on each bolt. Each has a unique thread/castles
alignment. Worked for me....
-
Larry Bowen, RV-8 60.8 Hrs, polishing...
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sarg314 [mailto:sarg314@comcast.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 11:13 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: castle nut - bolt line-up
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
>
> I am trying to bolt the engine mount to the RV-6A firewall
> (not the engine yet). The problem is that for most of the
> bolts I can't get the hole for the cotter pin to line up with
> the slot in the castle nut and still stay within the 160 -
> 190 in-lb torque range of the AN6 bolts. I got some
> AN960-616L (1/32" thick) washers to no avail. Tom Green at
> van's told me to start at the low end of the torque range and
> then increase it slowly 10 in-lbs at a time until it lines
> up. That only worked for 1 bolt.
>
> Seems like the only 2 choices are
> 1- over torque the bolt till it lines up, or
> 2- get some odd thickness washer somehow.
>
> Any suggestions? I *really* don't want to mistreat these bolts.
>
> --
> Tom Sargent, RV-6A.
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Lights |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dean" <dvanwinkle@royell.net>
Bobby
I don't personally contemplate going with the WigWag setup but instead with
the 3 light strobes. I just prefer to control the 2 landing lights
individually. I see nothing wrong with your approach as long as it is wired
and fused correctly. If one of your lights fails, the other one should
still work.
Dean
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bobby Hester" <bhester@hopkinsville.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Landing Lights
> --> RV-List message posted by: Bobby Hester <bhester@hopkinsville.net>
>
> Dean wrote:
>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Dean" <dvanwinkle@royell.net>
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >I would suggest going with two lights, one on each side with separate
> >switches and fuses. Bulbs do fail and the second light, even if it is the
> >one aimed for taxi use, could save you from experiencing one of those
"dark
> >and stormy night" scenarios that we all read about.
> >
> >Dean Van Winkle
> >RV-9A Fus/Finish Landing and Taxi Lights
> >
> >
> >
> I installed one light (Duckworth) in each wing. I am planning on using
> one switch Off-WigWag-On and running off one 20 amp fuse any reason not
> to do this?
>
> --
> Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY
> Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/
> RV7A Slowbuild wings-QB Fuse :-)
>
>
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