---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 02/04/05: 28 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:11 AM - Re: Weighty Question (DAVID FOORD) 2. 04:57 AM - Re: torque wrench calibration (Ron Schreck) 3. 04:59 AM - Re: torque wrench calibration (LarryRobertHelming) 4. 05:39 AM - Re: Re: torque wrench calibration (Bobby Hester) 5. 05:53 AM - Re: Weighty Question (Jerry Grimmonpre) 6. 06:17 AM - Re: torque wrench calibration (Hopperdhh@aol.com) 7. 06:53 AM - Confused About Torque Specifications (Hopperdhh@aol.com) 8. 07:15 AM - Proseal on all ribs or not (wskimike) 9. 08:09 AM - EZ Pilot display (Dave Mader) 10. 08:21 AM - Re: Proseal on all ribs or not (cgalley) 11. 08:28 AM - Re: EZ Pilot display (Sam Buchanan) 12. 08:41 AM - Re: Proseal on all ribs or not (Scott Bilinski) 13. 09:05 AM - Re: EZ Pilot display (SportAV8R@aol.com) 14. 09:17 AM - Those Chinese Instruments (Richard Dudley) 15. 09:20 AM - Re: torque wrench calibration (JOHN STARN) 16. 09:31 AM - Re: EZ Pilot display (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)) 17. 09:39 AM - Re: Weighty Question () 18. 09:46 AM - Re: Those Chinese Instruments (Gary Zilik) 19. 11:22 AM - Re: Landing Lights (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 20. 11:28 AM - Static Ports (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 21. 04:04 PM - 430 initialization?? (Dana Overall) 22. 04:49 PM - Re: Re: torque wrench calibration (sarg314) 23. 04:55 PM - engine bolt torque (sarg314) 24. 05:08 PM - Re: castle nut - bolt line-up (sarg314) 25. 05:09 PM - Texas Airparks (Mike Holland) 26. 05:43 PM - Re: 430 initialization?? (Alex Peterson) 27. 05:56 PM - Re: 430 initialization?? (Alex Peterson) 28. 06:09 PM - Re: 430 initialization?? (Bruce Gray) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:11:26 AM PST US From: "DAVID FOORD" Subject: Re: RV-List: Weighty Question --> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID FOORD" I HAVE A 160 HP FIXED PITCH PROP RV6. I AM BEHIND MY MATES IN THE CLIMB. I CAN BEAT THEM IN THE CRUISE AND PYLON RACING. I CAN OUTRUN A 180 HP CSU RV6. MORE EFFICIENCY, LESS WEIGHT THE CONSTANT SPEED PROP SIMPLY GETS COARSER TO ABSORB THE HP. HELICAL PITCH ON A FP PROP IS DESIGNED TO BE EFFICIENT AT AN RPM AND SPEED. WITH A 200 HP RV6 WITH FP PROP YOU ARE GOING TO BE CLIMBING AT WELL ABOVE 1800 FEET PER MINUTE. THAT'S AWESOME ENOUGH. IN THE CRUISE WITH A WELL SELECTED FP PROP YOU WILL BEAT THE CS PROP CHAPS AND YOU SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN THE CRUISE. AT 1800 FPM, YOUR CLIMB IS MAYBE 6 MINUTES TO THE BEST CRUISING ALTITUDE SO BIG DEAL IF YOU GET THERE 2 MINUTES QUICKER. DOESN'T MAKE MUCH DIFFERENCE. A 200HP ANGLE VALVE ENGINE IS ABOUT 30 LB HEAVIER THAN A 180 HP PARALLELL VALVE ENGINE. A CS PROP IS MAINTENANCE WAITING TO DISECT YOUR WALLET. BTW, I AM NOW WELL ALONG BUILDING A ONE DESIGN AEROBATIC PLANE. IT WILL HAVE A CS PROP AS I WANT THE HANG TIME AT THE TOP OF VERTICALS AND I CAN AFFORD IT NOW I AM OLDER THAN WHEN I BUILT THE RV6. MY RV IS THE SWEETEST THING TO FLY. MY MATES WITH CS PROPS HAVE HEAVIER NOSES AND ARE NOT SUCH A DELIGHT TO FLY, BECAUSE OF THE NOSE HEAVINESS. THERE ARE PRO's AND CON's. CHEERS DAVE. foords@senet.com.au. I unsubscribed today from the lists but feel free to email me directly. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Konrad L. Werner" Subject: Re: RV-List: Weighty Question > --> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner" > > Dear Dan, > Very good point, but how much time am I going to spend climbing vs. > cruising? > > If weight would be of a concern to you, would you then go 180hp/Hartzell > CS, ...or take the other option, a 200hp/FP setup? > (Anyone know the weight difference anyway between these two setups, just > curious?) > > So, please pick one of the two options, and tell me why you think one > would be better then the other? > > Thanks, > Konrad > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dan Checkoway > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 7:27 PM > Subject: Re: RV-List: Weighty Question > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" > > Using a fixed pitch prop on the 200hp engine is like having burned filet > mignon... (imho) Why bother with the extra horsepower if you're not > gonna > harness it in the climb (with a C/S prop)? > > do not archive > )_( Dan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Konrad L. Werner" > To: > Subject: RV-List: Weighty Question > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner" > > > > > Greetings everyone, > > Does anyone know what the difference in weight would be between the > following two options: > > > > A: 200hp / IO-360 Angle Valve with a Craig Catto F.P.Prop > > B: 180hp / O-360 Parallel Valve with a Hartzell C.S.Propeller > > > > I know that there is a significant weight increase between the 200hp > versus the 180hp Engine. > > I also know that a Craig Catto FP Prop is much lighter than a complete > Hartzell CS Setup: Propeller, Governor, Oil Line, Linkage,etc. > > > > Questions: > > Which of the two combinations would be the lighter version (or perhaps > they are equal in weight?), and how would a 200hp/FP compare to the > 180hp/CS > in climb and cruise? > > > > Thanks, > > Konrad > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:57:01 AM PST US From: "Ron Schreck" Subject: RV-List: Re: torque wrench calibration --> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Schreck" Finn...Where did you get your fish scale calibrated? ;-) Ron Schreck (do not archive) Time: 07:23:29 PM PST US From: Finn Lassen Subject: Re: torque wrench calibration --> RV-List message posted by: Finn Lassen How about clamping it in a vice, handle horizontal, and hanging a known weight a measured distance out on the handle. For example 2 lbs 12 inches from the vice should make it click at 24 inch-pounds setting but not at 25 in-lbs. Or use a fish scale to pull it (at 90 degrees to the handle), read the scale when it clicks. You'll only be using 2 or 3 settings anyway, so it should be easy to calibrate. Finn John Furey wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" > >Where did you get it calibrated? > >John Furey >RV6A > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:59:13 AM PST US From: "LarryRobertHelming" Subject: Re: RV-List: torque wrench calibration --> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" A couple of years ago at our local EAA #21 meeting Bob Moehlenkamp had a device that would digitally display the torque. Everyone in the club were invited to bring their wrenches and check them out for free. I had three and they ranged from 20 years old to nearly brand new and they all were within a pound of being right. When I had my engine built by Mattituck, they were very careful to double check the torque by using more than one tool for the critical attachments like the cylinder heads and case halves, etc.... AND they calibrate their tools every 3 months on top of that. I know that Sears will recalibrate their craftsmen torques but I don't think it is cheap. If anyone want to contact Bob his number in Indiana is (812) 985-3472. Nice guy. Indiana Larry, RV7 TipUp "SunSeeker" Evansville, Indiana (just north of western Kentucky) > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kathleen (rv7)" > > I actually did the measured weight 12 inches out thing with my new torque > wrench and it came out so close on the first try that I didn't give it any > more thought... > > Kathleen Evans > www.rv7.us > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of sarg314 > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: torque wrench calibration > > --> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 > > John: > I looked in the yellow pages under calibration. Tucson is big > enough now to have a couple of calibration outfits. They do all sorts > of instruments, electronic devices, even optical calibrations. > > John Furey wrote: > > >--> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" > > > >Where did you get it calibrated? > > > >John Furey > >RV6A > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:39:33 AM PST US From: "Bobby Hester" Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: torque wrench calibration --> RV-List message posted by: "Bobby Hester" > -----Original Message----- > From: "Ron Schreck" > To: "RV List" > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 07:47 (CDT) > Subject: RV-List: Re: torque wrench calibration > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Schreck" > > Finn...Where did you get your fish scale calibrated? ;-) > > Ron Schreck > (do not archive) > > | :-o \ | Here fishy, fishy \ > } // > / Ha ha ha...... |\/______//__ / / // // ------- Surfing the web from Hopkinsville, KY RV7A web site: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:00 AM PST US From: "Jerry Grimmonpre" Subject: Re: RV-List: Weighty Question --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" To the experienced heads out there: What is the ENGINE weight difference between a flying 180HP and a flying 160HP? What would it take to get 165 to 170HP out of a basic 160HP Lyc? Realistically ... how much can a 160HP Lyc be squeezed (higher compression) and still make TBO with reasonable smoothness? Can normal TBO even be expected? What parts are likely to be impacted the most? Is it less complicated to just leave it at 160HP and enjoy the ride to full TBO? Thanks ... Jerry Grimmonpre 7A > A 200HP ANGLE VALVE ENGINE IS ABOUT 30 LB HEAVIER THAN A 180 HP PARALLELL > VALVE ENGINE. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:17:32 AM PST US From: Hopperdhh@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: torque wrench calibration --> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com In a message dated 2/4/05 3:03:52 A.M. US Eastern Standard Time, finn.lassen@verizon.net writes: How about clamping it in a vice, handle horizontal, and hanging a known weight a measured distance out on the handle. For example 2 lbs 12 inches from the vice should make it click at 24 inch-pounds setting but not at 25 in-lbs. Or use a fish scale to pull it (at 90 degrees to the handle), read the scale when it clicks. You'll only be using 2 or 3 settings anyway, so it should be easy to calibrate. Finn This works to some degree. What is the torque added by the weight of the handle? Things are never as simple as they seem! Dan Hopper Walton, IN RV-7A (In flying condition, waiting for snow to melt some.) ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:53:19 AM PST US From: Hopperdhh@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Confused About Torque Specifications --> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com Listers, I have to wonder how critical these bolt torque specifications really are. Let me give you an example of why I say this. One would think that dry bolt torque specs would be greater than for oiled threads, wouldn't you? I mean the clamping force would be increased if you oiled the threads, then tightened to the dry spec. But, for example: The Standard Aircraft Handbook says to torque a 3/8 - 24 nut 160 - 190 in-lb for dry threads. (You have to read the text after the table to find the reference to unlubricated cadmium plated steel nuts.) The Continental O-200 Overhaul Manual says 275.0 - 325.0 in-lb for oiled threads under General Use Tightening Torques. It says for cotter pins, go to the low spec then continue until the cotter pin lines up. The latter spec is not for connecting rods. Those call for 400 - 475 in-lb for 3/8 - 24 threads. These must be better steel, so don't go this tight with standard AN bolts! All this is really confusing to me. Can anyone set me straight? When can you be sure the table you are using applies to your particular situation? I know that I should use specs published in the maintenance manual when possible. Dan Hopper Walton, IN RV-7A (Should be flying, but runway is snowed in.) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:15:36 AM PST US From: "wskimike" Subject: RV-List: Proseal on all ribs or not --> RV-List message posted by: "wskimike" My question is; Would it be better for corrosion purposes to use proseal on all ribs after primer and shoot the rivets wet or would it entrap water and cause more corrosion? I know you use it for fuel cells and pressurized cabins, but I was wondering if it would prevent corrosion or aid it. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:12 AM PST US From: "Dave Mader" Subject: RV-List: EZ Pilot display --> RV-List message posted by: "Dave Mader" Am getting ready to purchase an EZ Pilot autopilot and notice from their website, they offer two different displays (lcd or vfd) Any comments on which is better would be much appreciated. Thanks Dave Mader 2nd 6 Sheridan, Wyo ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:21:04 AM PST US From: "cgalley" Subject: Re: RV-List: Proseal on all ribs or not --> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" You are adding weight for what? Corrosion should not be a problem unless you land in the ocean. JBSBA! Cy Galley - Chair, AirVenture Emergency Aircraft Repair A Service Project of Chapter 75 EAA Safety Programs Editor - TC EAA Sport Pilot ----- Original Message ----- From: "wskimike" Subject: RV-List: Proseal on all ribs or not > --> RV-List message posted by: "wskimike" > > My question is; Would it be better for corrosion purposes to use proseal on all ribs after primer and shoot the rivets wet or would it entrap water and cause more corrosion? I know you use it for fuel cells and pressurized cabins, but I was wondering if it would prevent corrosion or aid it. > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:28:58 AM PST US From: Sam Buchanan Subject: Re: RV-List: EZ Pilot display --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan Dave Mader wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dave Mader" > > Am getting ready to purchase an EZ Pilot autopilot and notice from > their website, they offer two different displays (lcd or vfd) Any comments > on which is better would be much appreciated. Thanks > Dave Mader > 2nd 6 > Sheridan, Wyo Dave, you definitely want the LCD display. I have flown both versions in my RV-6; the LCD display was developed due to the insistence of several of us RV drivers. :-) You are really going to enjoy the EZ-Pilot! Sam Buchanan (RV-6 with EZ-Pilot) http://thervjournal.com ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:41:05 AM PST US From: Scott Bilinski Subject: Re: RV-List: Proseal on all ribs or not --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski I have heard of several people and know of one guy who Pro-sealed each and every external rivet. I have seen many planes just out of the paint shop with what looks like a very "thin" paint job. So, I think the main reason was to fill the gap that sometimes appears between the rivet and the skin which will allow the paint to flow from rivet to skin. This would also keep out any "stuff" that might start corrosion. At 10:20 AM 2/4/2005 -0600, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" > >You are adding weight for what? Corrosion should not be a problem unless you >land in the ocean. > >JBSBA! > >Cy Galley - Chair, >AirVenture Emergency Aircraft Repair >A Service Project of Chapter 75 >EAA Safety Programs Editor - TC >EAA Sport Pilot > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "wskimike" >To: >Subject: RV-List: Proseal on all ribs or not > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "wskimike" > > > > My question is; Would it be better for corrosion purposes to use proseal >on all ribs after primer and shoot the rivets wet or would it entrap water >and cause more corrosion? I know you use it for fuel cells and pressurized >cabins, but I was wondering if it would prevent corrosion or aid it. > > > > > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:05:14 AM PST US From: SportAV8R@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: EZ Pilot display --> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com When will the altitude hold feature be available - any rumors? ...waiting to take the plunge and knowing I'm gonna love it. -Stormy do not archive ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:17:45 AM PST US From: Richard Dudley Subject: RV-List: Those Chinese Instruments --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley FWIW There has been a recent thead on this list concerning instruments manufactured outside the USA. My recent experience might be of interest to some list followers. In preparation for FAA inspection of my RV-6A and IFR certification, I had my altimeter-encoder-transponder combination checked at the local avionics repair station. I purchased the altimeter from Van's and is part number;BG-3B. It carries the brand name of Falcon Gauge,Wultrad, Inc. It is manufactured in China. The testing procedure takes the altimeter to pressure altitudes from -1000 feet to 20000 feet at incriments of 500 feet through 2000 feet, 1000 feet through 4000 feet and 2000 feet through 20000 feet and notes the error at each altitude. The results were zero error through 4000 feet and well within the required tolerances through 20000 feet. The technician who conducted tests commented that he tests about two altimeters every day. He said that this altimeter performed at least as well as the name brands that he tests. Regards, Richard Dudley -6A preparing for final inspection ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:20:07 AM PST US From: "JOHN STARN" Subject: Re: RV-List: torque wrench calibration --> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" Coupla years ago I took my Craftsman torque wrench to their "service" center here in Victorville. It's the 3/8" drive "clicker" and about 20" long. They wanted $75.00 to check & re-calibrate it. The local Sears store was selling brand new ones for $69.95 plus a 1 year warrantee, Oh Yea I was advised that the standard "lifetime" Craftsman rule did not apply to torque wrenchs. So we have a new torque wrench and a long, clicking, ratcheting 3/8" drive breaker bar. Do Not Archive. KABONG (GBA & GWB) 8*) ----- Original Message ----- From: "LarryRobertHelming" Subject: Re: RV-List: torque wrench calibration ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:31:57 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: EZ Pilot display From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" The unannounced plan, totally not committed yet, word on the street, don't listen to me, is to have em ready for SnF. Ive been on em like white on rice. I have seen some early prototype shots of their cool implementation and they are thinking ahead to include vertical guidance with a cool little switch/rotary knob selection device. It will deploy into an existing panel with the same ease as the Altrak Alt. Hold. BUT..... It will be way better with the addition of vertical guidance and a super small footprint. Keep your eyes out. Oh and to the question of display, Do what Sam said. He know what he speaks. Mike S8 FWF Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of SportAV8R@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: EZ Pilot display --> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com When will the altitude hold feature be available - any rumors? ...waiting to take the plunge and knowing I'm gonna love it. -Stormy do not archive ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:39:17 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV-List: Weighty Question --> RV-List message posted by: > Message by: "Konrad L. Werner" klwerner@comcast.net : >Does anyone know what the difference in weight would be between the >following two options: >A: 200hp / IO-360 Angle Valve with a Craig Catto F.P.Prop >B: 180hp / O-360 Parallel Valve with a Hartzell C.S.Propeller I made a post on the new forum at Van's WWW regarding weight of RV's titled "Weight of Rv's" at http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=172&page=2&pp=10 I broke down the weights of different RV models and engine/prop combs. A summary of weights for by engine/prop, is below from 115 finished RV's: No consideration is given to paint, interior or brand of fixed or constant speed prop, But it will give you an idea what different engines and props have on empty Wt. (Note: No RV's with an IO360 200hp with a fixed prop of the group I looked at) #, Eng/Prop, Min, Max, Avg 32; 320/Fix;.....874; 1106; 1019 28; 360/Fix;.....986; 1170; 1066 09; 320/CS;....1010; 1168; 1084 32; 360/CS;....1026; 1189; 1101 14; IO360/CS;.1103; 1244; 1151 (note: # = number of RV's, O320=150/160hp carb or FI, O360=180hp carb or FI, IO360=200hp) You can see obvious relationship to weight and prop/engine selection, but you can also see you can control total weight regardless of eng/prop. However as guessed a 320/fix RV is the light Wt. and the IO360/CS the heavy weight. No comment just numbers. By the way Dan's IO360/CS RV-7 Rocks. Thanks for your great web site by the way. Cheers G. --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 09:46:48 AM PST US From: Gary Zilik Subject: Re: RV-List: Those Chinese Instruments --> RV-List message posted by: Gary Zilik On the other hand a local RVer had the same test performed on his Falcon altimeter. On the way up to 20000 feet the glass in the instrument came loose (popped inwards) and the altimeter was junk. He now has a nice new USA made instrument. Gary Richard Dudley wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley > > FWIW > > There has been a recent thead on this list concerning instruments > manufactured outside the USA. My recent experience might be of interest > to some list followers. > > In preparation for FAA inspection of my RV-6A and IFR certification, I > had my altimeter-encoder-transponder combination checked at the local > avionics repair station. I purchased the altimeter from Van's and is > part number;BG-3B. It carries the brand name of Falcon Gauge,Wultrad, > Inc. It is manufactured in China. > > The testing procedure takes the altimeter to pressure altitudes from > -1000 feet to 20000 feet at incriments of 500 feet through 2000 feet, > 1000 feet through 4000 feet and 2000 feet through 20000 feet and notes > the error at each altitude. The results were zero error through 4000 > feet and well within the required tolerances through 20000 feet. > > The technician who conducted tests commented that he tests about two > altimeters every day. He said that this altimeter performed at least as > well as the name brands that he tests. > > Regards, > > Richard Dudley > -6A preparing for final inspection > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 11:22:38 AM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Landing Lights --> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com In a message dated 2/3/05 12:34:01 AM Central Standard Time, rv6n6r@comcast.net writes: > I make a fair number of night landings in my -6 and I'm very glad I have > one > in each wing. As others have mentioned, it really helps to have one pointing > up and one down in a tailtragger. BTW these are Duckworks lights. > > Also its cool to have a wigwag -- and safer! >>>> Ditto on my -6A. As far as aiming, I tried the left one aimed lower- as I approach the threshold, it's easy to see the stripes/numbers/edge markings on the left to judge height and alignment. The right one is aimed straight ahead to look at the touchdown area and on flaring shines straight ahead for 3D (dogs, deer & dumbasses). I leave the left one on for taxiing. Works fine. Wig-wag is Galls flasher. Mark ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 11:28:41 AM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Static Ports --> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com Howdy listers- Since the plane is out of my shop, I've set up an old lathe and tried making some of the static ports like I installed in my plane, and now have a little pile of them. They look like the rivet head per plans, but are machined from 10-32 stainless screws which allows for easy installation and removal, and leaves 1/2" of thread for tubing connection. If anyone is interested, I'll mail ya a pair including mounting hardware for $15. Fotos available- please contact off-list... From The PossumWorks in TN Mark Phillips - RV-6A, 150 hours, & do not archive ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 04:04:37 PM PST US From: "Dana Overall" Subject: RV-List: 430 initialization?? --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" Hey gang, is there any secret to a Garmin 430 "finding" itself. My com works fine but I am getting no sat. lock. I used a stardard BNC connector on both ends. Check continuity, everything fine but no lock......or luck as it may be. Is there any secrets out there or am I not getting the proper link with the standard BNC. Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg do not archive ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 04:49:20 PM PST US From: sarg314 Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: torque wrench calibration --> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 Excellent question! And one reason to have the calibration done by a calibration lab. Bobby Hester wrote: >- > >>Finn...Where did you get your fish scale calibrated? ;-) >> >>Ron Schreck >>(do not archive) >> >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 04:55:41 PM PST US From: sarg314 Subject: RV-List: engine bolt torque --> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 I have looked thru van's manual and a few other engine-hanging guides but haven't seen anything about the bolt torque to use. These are AN7 bolts (7/16-20) which my chart says calls for 450 - 500 inch-pounds. Is that right? -- Tom Sargent, RV-6A, Engine ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 05:08:09 PM PST US From: sarg314 Subject: Re: RV-List: castle nut - bolt line-up --> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 G: Thanks for the feedback. I'm into new territory here, so all the info I can get helps. -- Tom S. ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 05:09:54 PM PST US From: "Mike Holland" Subject: RV-List: Texas Airparks --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Holland" If your interested in the Ft Worth/Dallas area outside the class B but still 15 minutes from the malls, check this out: http://www.bourlandestates.com/ Have a lot plan to build. Mike Holland RV9A in the oven ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 05:43:41 PM PST US From: "Alex Peterson" Subject: RE: RV-List: 430 initialization?? --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" > > Hey gang, is there any secret to a Garmin 430 "finding" > itself. My com > works fine but I am getting no sat. lock. I used a stardard > BNC connector > on both ends. Check continuity, everything fine but no > lock......or luck as > it may be. Is there any secrets out there or am I not > getting the proper > link with the standard BNC. > > > Dana Overall Dana, you aren't in a hangar, are you? Alex Peterson RV6-A 559 hours Maple Grove, MN http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/ ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 05:56:38 PM PST US From: "Alex Peterson" Subject: RE: RV-List: 430 initialization?? --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" > > > > Hey gang, is there any secret to a Garmin 430 "finding" > > itself. My com > > works fine but I am getting no sat. lock. I used a stardard > > BNC connector > > on both ends. Check continuity, everything fine but no > > lock......or luck as > > it may be. Is there any secrets out there or am I not > > getting the proper > > link with the standard BNC. > > > > > > Dana Overall Dana, one other possibility - I recall that the manual indicates that it could take quite some time for the "lock" on first power up. How long have you let it try? Alex Peterson RV6-A 559 hours Maple Grove, MN http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/ ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 06:09:48 PM PST US From: "Bruce Gray" Subject: RE: RV-List: 430 initialization?? --> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" Make sure that the 430 isn't in play mode. If one of the pins is grounded, the 430 operates in demo mode. Bruce www.glasair.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dana Overall Subject: RV-List: 430 initialization?? --> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" Hey gang, is there any secret to a Garmin 430 "finding" itself. My com works fine but I am getting no sat. lock. I used a stardard BNC connector on both ends. Check continuity, everything fine but no lock......or luck as it may be. Is there any secrets out there or am I not getting the proper link with the standard BNC. Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg do not archive