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1. 05:38 AM - Re: E-mags/P-mags (RVer273sb@aol.com)
2. 05:38 AM - i39 Richmond/Madison Flyin (Dana Overall)
3. 05:45 AM - Richmond, KY i39 RV flyin (Dana Overall)
4. 06:38 AM - Re: RV-List Digest: 17 Msgs - 02/12/05 (Sherri & Paul Richardson)
5. 06:42 AM - Re: Harmonic Vibration (Alex Peterson)
6. 06:44 AM - Bolt hole not strait (Sherri & Paul Richardson)
7. 07:16 AM - Re: Bolt hole not strait (Paul Besing)
8. 08:14 AM - iQue 3600a (Dave Bristol)
9. 08:41 AM - Re: iQue 3600a (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky))
10. 08:47 AM - Re: iQue 3600a (Randy Lervold)
11. 09:08 AM - Airparks in TX (mimartin@sweetwaterhsa.com)
12. 09:09 AM - Re: iQue 3600a (Dave Bristol)
13. 09:15 AM - Re: iQue 3600a (Dave Bristol)
14. 10:21 AM - Re: iQue 3600a (LARRY ADAMSON)
15. 10:45 AM - Re: E-mags/P-mags (Vanremog@aol.com)
16. 10:54 AM - !New! CS props for sale ()
17. 11:13 AM - Re: iQue 3600a (Dave Bristol)
18. 11:26 AM - Re: pourable tank sealant?? (Evan and Megan Johnson)
19. 11:30 AM - Re: !New! CS props for sale (Mickey Coggins)
20. 12:04 PM - Re: pourable tank sealant?? (Charlie England)
21. 12:18 PM - Re: iQue 3600a (LARRY ADAMSON)
22. 01:05 PM - Re: pourable tank sealant?? (Paul Trotter)
23. 01:57 PM - Re: iQue 3600a (Dave Bristol)
24. 05:31 PM - Re: Harmonic Vibration (John Furey)
25. 06:40 PM - For Micky Martin, Wyoming (Charles Heathco)
26. 08:25 PM - Re: iQue 3600a (Jamie Painter)
27. 08:49 PM - Re: Oil Air Separator (Randy Compton)
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| Subject: | Re: E-mags/P-mags |
--> RV-List message posted by: RVer273sb@aol.com
You will find the installation easy, the hardest part
being removal if the old impulse mag adapter and long
studs.
They operate as advertized and they are quite nicely
manufactured.
Stewart RV-4 M-mag, P-mag.
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| Subject: | i39 Richmond/Madison Flyin |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
Ok, less than two weeks so it's time to crank up the publishing machine.
The following companies have graciously donated items to the flyin at i39,
Richmond/Madison:
http://steinair.com
http://www.aircraftextras.com/FPS-Plus.htm- one push flap operations
engalt.com/aviation.htm-post light system
Anywhere Map-total software package
Avery Tools
Van's aircraft
I am working on more and will be hearing from them shortly. I expect to
have as many door prizes, if not more than last year. I truly appreciate
the donations and urge all to support those who support us.
Last year we had 87 RV's as of noon when I stopped counting deal with lunch.
This year it looks like lunch will be even better. As you remember, we
had Hooters wings but no Hooters girls. Well, that will change this year.
Be sure and bring your tip money, that is all I'll say right now:-)
Start planning on your flights but do remember there is restricted airspace
above the Army Depot to the east side of the interstate. Parking will be on
the ramp on a first come first serve basis. Overflow parking is easily
accomodated on the taxiway. I haven't yet talked with Mike from TeamRV but
will be pushing that button later today along with the FFI cardholders from
my group The Ohio Valley RVators. Guess this year I'll wear a TeamRV
sweetshirt and an OVRVators hat:-)
Reserve parking will be available on the ramp for any Super 8s, Rotary RVs,
OVRVators and Team RV. I am going to request a missing man display in
respect for my father, NOMAD's recently deceased father, Turbo Tom, our
troops and anyone else who has suffered a loss since last year's flyin.
Remember, this a flyin. No forums, no lectures, no presentations just a
bunch of liers walking around swapping airplanes lies.............or, I mean
stories:-) Just be careful, as the pattern was full of RV last year. We
did have great weather last year which allowed people to fly in from
Floriday, Michigan, PN, Iowa and all parts between.
OK, you guys form Indy lets see if you can top your turnout of 25+ last year
and OVRVators, let's give them a run for their money!!
Just a teaser, here are the shots from last year. Let's put it in the top
10 RV attended flyins again!!
http://members16.clubphoto.com/rick742624/guest.phtml
If anyone wants to spend the night here is a list of local motels.
Comfort Suites
859 624-0770
Next to Cracker Barrel
Hampton Inn
859 626-1002
Next to Bob Evans
Holiday Inn Express & Suites
859 624-4088
Walking distance Bob Evans
Best Western
859 623-9220
Same as above
Jameson Inn
859 623-0063
Bob Evans shares parking lot
La Quinta
859 623-9121
Near Cracker Barrel
Ramada Limited
859 626-8676
Same as above
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
Finish kit
13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon.
http://rvflying.tripod.com/
http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg
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| Subject: | Richmond, KY i39 RV flyin |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
Sorry left the date off Matronics post.
Saturday, February 26th.
Ok, less than two weeks so it's time to crank up the publishing machine.
Flyin date: Saturday, February 26th.
The following companies have graciously donated items to the flyin at i39,
Richmond/Madison:
http://steinair.com
http://www.aircraftextras.com/FPS-Plus.htm- one push flap operations
engalt.com/aviation.htm-post light system
Anywhere Map-total software package
Avery Tools
Van's aircraft
I am working on more and will be hearing from them shortly. I expect to
have as many door prizes, if not more than last year. I truly appreciate
the donations and urge all to support those who support us.
Last year we had 87 RV's as of noon when I stopped counting deal with lunch.
This year it looks like lunch will be even better. As you remember, we
had Hooters wings but no Hooters girls. Well, that will change this year.
Be sure and bring your tip money, that is all I'll say right now:-)
Start planning on your flights but do remember there is restricted airspace
above the Army Depot to the east side of the interstate. Parking will be on
the ramp on a first come first serve basis. Overflow parking is easily
accomodated on the taxiway. I haven't yet talked with Mike from TeamRV but
will be pushing that button later today along with the FFI cardholders from
my group The Ohio Valley RVators. Guess this year I'll wear a TeamRV
sweetshirt and an OVRVators hat:-)
Reserve parking will be available on the ramp for any Super 8s, Rotary RVs,
OVRVators and Team RV. I am going to request a missing man display in
respect for my father, NOMAD's recently deceased father, Turbo Tom, our
troops and anyone else who has suffered a loss since last year's flyin.
Remember, this a flyin. No forums, no lectures, no presentations just a
bunch of liers walking around swapping airplanes lies.............or, I mean
stories:-) Just be careful, as the pattern was full of RV last year. We
did have great weather last year which allowed people to fly in from
Floriday, Michigan, PN, Iowa and all parts between.
OK, you guys form Indy lets see if you can top your turnout of 25+ last year
and OVRVators, let's give them a run for their money!!
Just a teaser, here are the shots from last year. Let's put it in the top
10 RV attended flyins again!!
http://members16.clubphoto.com/rick742624/guest.phtml
If anyone wants to spend the night here is a list of local motels.
Comfort Suites
859 624-0770
Next to Cracker Barrel
Hampton Inn
859 626-1002
Next to Bob Evans
Holiday Inn Express & Suites
859 624-4088
Walking distance Bob Evans
Best Western
859 623-9220
Same as above
Jameson Inn
859 623-0063
Bob Evans shares parking lot
La Quinta
859 623-9121
Near Cracker Barrel
Ramada Limited
859 626-8676
Same as above
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
Finish kit
13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon.
http://rvflying.tripod.com/
http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: RV-List Digest: 17 Msgs - 02/12/05 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Sherri & Paul Richardson" <prichar@mail.win.org>
On a certificated aircraft, this type of problem would be handled by a form
337 (major mod), which would require FAA approval.
In order to maximize safety, we should treat structural issues similarly for
experimental aircraft. As a minimum, I would get the opinion of a trusted
IA/A&P, your EAA technical advisor, as well as the factory recommendation.
They have seen it all.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "George Inman" <ghinman@mts.net>
>> To: "RV-list matronics" <rv-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: RV-List: Bolt hole not strait
>>
>>
>>
>>>--> RV-List message posted by: "George Inman" <ghinman@mts.net>
>>>
>>> When drilling one of the holes holding down the
>>> front of my horiz.stab,the hole came out not quite
>>> strait.It is off by a few degrees.
>>> Since it is a critical structural bolt,I am thinking
>>> of fileing a slant on two washers and puting one on
>>> each end of the bolt.
>>> What have others done in this situation?
>>>
>>>GEORGE H. INMAN
>>>ghinman@mts.net
>>>
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| Subject: | Harmonic Vibration |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" <john@fureychrysler.com>
>
>
> It is a high freq vibration that starts slowly and builds as
> the airspeed and rpm drop, such as when pulling back on
> downwind. You feel it in the floor, seat, stick, etc. You
> hear it all through the cabin, the canopy vibrates. It is
> very pronounced and grows as spped & rpm drop them it will
> diminish as speed and rpm go below certain parameters.
>
> John
Did you have to put a different cowl on when you went to the C/S prop? I
understand that this problem started exactly when you converted to C/S, is
that correct?
Alex Peterson
RV6-A 571 hours
Maple Grove, MN
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/
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| Subject: | Bolt hole not strait |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Sherri & Paul Richardson" <prichar@mail.win.org>
On a certificated aircraft, this type of problem would be handled by a form
337 (major mod), which would require FAA approval.
In order to maximize safety, we should treat structural issues similarly for
experimental aircraft. As a minimum, I would get the opinion of a trusted
IA/A&P, your EAA technical advisor, as well as the factory recommendation.
They have seen it all.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "George Inman" <ghinman@mts.net>
>>> To: "RV-list matronics" <rv-list@matronics.com>
>>> Subject: RV-List: Bolt hole not strait
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>--> RV-List message posted by: "George Inman" <ghinman@mts.net>
>>>>
>>>> When drilling one of the holes holding down the
>>>> front of my horiz.stab,the hole came out not quite
>>>> strait.It is off by a few degrees.
>>>> Since it is a critical structural bolt,I am thinking
>>>> of fileing a slant on two washers and puting one on
>>>> each end of the bolt.
>>>> What have others done in this situation?
>>>>
>>>>GEORGE H. INMAN
>>>>ghinman@mts.net
>>>>
>
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| Subject: | Bolt hole not strait |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
I did the same thing.
Paul Besing
RV-6A Sold
RV-10 Soon
Kitlog Builder's Software
www.kitlog.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of HCRV6@aol.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: Bolt hole not strait
--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
I had a similar problem with the one of the same holes. My work around,
FWIW, was to straighten and redrill the hole for an AN4 bolt instead of the
AN3
specified.
Harry Crosby
Pleasanton, California
RV-6, flying!
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--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol <dbris200@sbcglobal.net>
FWIW,
I was all ready to run out and buy the new Garmin iQue 3600a GPS until I
checked on what kind of output it has. According to Garmin, the only
communications it has with the outside world is with "hotsync" and
therefore will not be compatible with any other real-time equipment such
as an autopilot or laptop.
This may not keep me from getting one, but it has made me slow down and
give it some more thought. Too bad, it looks like everything I need
otherwise.
Dave B -6 So Cal
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--> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
Thanks for the info. I was thinking about it too but I wanted to make sure it
output the nmea data my other systems want and from what I read (or didn't read)
I had to conclude it didn't. Your email reinforces that. Too bad.
lucky
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-------------- Original message --------------
> --> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol
>
> FWIW,
>
> I was all ready to run out and buy the new Garmin iQue 3600a GPS until I
> checked on what kind of output it has. According to Garmin, the only
> communications it has with the outside world is with "hotsync" and
> therefore will not be compatible with any other real-time equipment such
> as an autopilot or laptop.
> This may not keep me from getting one, but it has made me slow down and
> give it some more thought. Too bad, it looks like everything I need
> otherwise.
>
> Dave B -6 So Cal
>
>
>
>
>
>
Thanks for the info. I was thinking about it too but I wanted to make sure it output
the nmea data my other systems want and from what I read (or didn't read)
I had to conclude it didn't. Your email reinforces that. Too bad.
lucky
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-------------- Original message --------------
-- RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol <DBRIS200@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
FWIW,
I was all ready to run out and buy the new Garmin iQue 3600a GPS until I
checked on what kind of output it has. According to Garmin, the only
communications it has with the outside world is with "hotsync" and
therefore will not be compatible with any other real-time equipment such
as an autopilot or laptop.
This may not keep me from getting one, but it has made me slow down and
give it some more thought. Too bad, it looks like everything I need
otherwise.
Dave B -6 So Cal
sored entirely through the Contributions
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com>
> I was all ready to run out and buy the new Garmin iQue 3600a GPS until I
> checked on what kind of output it has. According to Garmin, the only
> communications it has with the outside world is with "hotsync" and
> therefore will not be compatible with any other real-time equipment such
> as an autopilot or laptop.
> This may not keep me from getting one, but it has made me slow down and
> give it some more thought. Too bad, it looks like everything I need
> otherwise.
>
> Dave B -6 So Cal
I spotted the same thing. It also does not have the ability to have a
separate/external antenna... bummer.
Randy Lervold
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--> RV-List message posted by: "mimartin@sweetwaterhsa.com" <mimartin@sweetwater.com>
Charles,
You have a wide choice of airparks in Texas. The ultimates like Pecan Plantation
that have million dollar homes, golf course and every other amenity that $money$
can buy, to small grass strip parks that are all about economy.
No doubt about it those high end parks are incredible and have price tags to match
including maintenance fees for ever. If I had the money that might just be
where I would settle, but I need a airpark that is economical and think I found
just the place. Aero Estates is located just about 30 miles south of Tyler
on Lake Palestine , one of the best fishing lakes in Texas. Half acre lots
are starting at $14,000.00. The homes that have been built vary from impressive
to hangar homes. I haven't built my dream yet but can afford to do so at these
prices. There are several pilots in residence including an RV 8.
www.aeroestates.org
Mickey Martin
RV 6 builder in WY
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--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol <bj034@lafn.org>
Lucky,
I found that information in Garmins FAQ's.
Dave
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lucky wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
>
>Thanks for the info. I was thinking about it too but I wanted to make sure it
output the nmea data my other systems want and from what I read (or didn't read)
I had to conclude it didn't. Your email reinforces that. Too bad.
>
>lucky
>do not archive
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol
>>
>>FWIW,
>>
>>I was all ready to run out and buy the new Garmin iQue 3600a GPS until I
>>checked on what kind of output it has. According to Garmin, the only
>>communications it has with the outside world is with "hotsync" and
>>therefore will not be compatible with any other real-time equipment such
>>as an autopilot or laptop.
>>This may not keep me from getting one, but it has made me slow down and
>>give it some more thought. Too bad, it looks like everything I need
>>otherwise.
>>
>>Dave B -6 So Cal
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol <bj034@lafn.org>
Randy,
Garmin's website says that it comes with the "GA27C external antenna kit"
Dave
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Randy Lervold wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com>
>
>
>I spotted the same thing. It also does not have the ability to have a
>separate/external antenna... bummer.
>
>Randy Lervold
>
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "LARRY ADAMSON" <rvhi03@msn.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Bristol
Subject: RV-List: iQue 3600a
--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol <dbris200@sbcglobal.net>
FWIW,
I was all ready to run out and buy the new Garmin iQue 3600a GPS until I
checked on what kind of output it has. According to Garmin, the only
communications it has with the outside world is with "hotsync" and
therefore will not be compatible with any other real-time equipment such
as an autopilot or laptop.
This may not keep me from getting one, but it has made me slow down and
give it some more thought. Too bad, it looks like everything I need
otherwise.
Under "specs" for the iQue 3600a, it list's interfaces which include USB, infrared,
and RS232.
The RS232, I believe is the output required to an auto-pilot, so you might want
to double check.
After wavering back & forth on this unit, I ended up with the Garmin 296, which
has the required output--- for sure.
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| Subject: | Re: E-mags/P-mags |
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 2/13/2005 5:39:16 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
RVer273sb@aol.com writes:
You will find the installation easy, the hardest part
being removal if the old impulse mag adapter and long
studs.
They operate as advertised and they are quite nicely
manufactured.
=============================================
Stewart-
I was planning to do something different on the left mag mounting with the
long studs. I was going to leave the long studs in place and build some
sleeves/spacers out of heavy wall steel to take up the additional length. That
would allow me install the clamps and then these spacers and then the nuts. Do
you know of any reason this wouldn't work?
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 736hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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| Subject: | !New! CS props for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com>
Les:
I guess I am not sure what the answer is regarding the MT two blade (metal) prop
for the 180HP or 200HP Lycoming (I)O-360. You state they have certified applications
and "Done that been there" but inquiring minds want to know...I think
the point Kevin was making is:
Has MT specifically tested their prop with Lightspeed ignition, LASAR ignition,
FADEC and High Compression Pistons. Hartzell is supporting the experimental market
by actually testing a wide variety of props and even brands of engines like
the XP-360, on a RV-8 of all things. I sure would like to see something like
that from MT, stating they have done vibration surveys with these different
configurations. No offense, but what does "Done that been there" mean? Prop manufactures
have no obligation to test props for the experimental market.
As far as "being sorry" for those of us with Hartzell props, I know you are kidding.
Hartzell performance and the performance of their new Blended Airfoil model
is without compare and has no mid-range RPM restriction on the 180hp Lyc with
E ignition or FADEC. Also the Hartzell has widely available service and parts,
new or reconditioned, and they cost less than the MT. If the new MT has no
restrictions with 10.5 to 1 pistons and E ignition, than this is a fantastic
additional choice for the experimental market. However, to assume it has no restrictions
on a highly modified engine, based on a STC for stock engines, is
not precise. I would call MT myself but I don't: "sprechen Sie Deutsches"
Keep up the good work Les, Cheers George
>
>In a message dated 02/11/2004 5:53:59 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>khorton01@rogers.com writes:
>There is a lot more to harmonic vibration than the power that the
>prop hub was designed for. The resonant frequency of the blades vs
>the frequency spectrum produced by the engine is a much bigger issue.
>
>Just look at the FAA Type Certificate Data Sheet P-920 for the
>Hartzell props that many of us are using - you will find widely
>varying rpm restrictions for different model O-360s using the same
>hub, even though many of the engines have the same power output.
>
>Search page:
><http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf/Mai
>nFrame?OpenFrameSet>
>
>Direct link to TCDS P-920:
>
><http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf/0/c
>459056338a0f90a86256d600050815a/$FILE/P-920.pdf>
>
>--
>Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
>Ottawa, Canada
>http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
>
>MT Propeller had already gone through all of the analysis and testing before
>I received a propeller from them.
>
>All I did was a performance comparison flight. I wonder why do I feel like
>some of you guys like to shoot the messenger?
>
>Please remember that MT Propeller is a certified propeller manufacturer.
>They have been through all of this with every propeller they
>manufacture. They
>have specific RPM restrictions for their standard propellers on the non
>counterweighted crankshaft Lycoming 360 engine, also. Been there, done that.
>
>This one is different. It was designed specifically to not have any Mid
>Range RPM restriction on any Lycoming 360 engine. Cyclic loads,
>harmonics, the
>whole 9 yards.
>
>If you just bought a Hartzell, then I guess I can feel sorry for you.
>
>Jim Ayers
>
Les,
Sorry that you felt I was "trying to shoot the messenger". Not at
all. I do appreciate you helping to bring another prop option on to
the market. I was just trying to make sure that other readers didn't
take your statement at face value, as it gave the wrong impression
about prop-engine compatibility.
Yes, I've got a Hartzell, but I only bought one because my
prop-engine combination doesn't have any rpm restrictions. If I had
an O-360-A series, I would certainly be looking at other props like
this MT.
--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
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--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol <bj034@lafn.org>
They do list those interfaces but I beleive that they can only be used
for hot sync operations.Sure hope I'm wrong 8>)
Here's a couple of quotes from the FAQ's:
Q. Does the iQue support a NMEA protocol interface?
A. Unlike most of our GPS units, the iQue does not output NMEA data,
which is often used for real-time tracking and autopilot systems.
Q. Can I perform real-time tracking with my iQue and a laptop computer?
A. The Garmin iQue does not have the capability of performing real-time
tracking. The iQue does not output data that the computer can use to
determine its position for tracking purposes. The HotSync process is the
only communications channel and does not have the ability to stay on
continuously to transmit/receive data.
Dave
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>
>Under "specs" for the iQue 3600a, it list's interfaces which include USB, infrared,
and RS232.
>The RS232, I believe is the output required to an auto-pilot, so you might want
to double check.
>After wavering back & forth on this unit, I ended up with the Garmin 296, which
has the required output--- for sure.
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: pourable tank sealant?? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
You might try to reach the company that makes the "proseal" we all get from
Vans. I understand that you can get it in different consistencies. They are
called Flame Master, and I am sure they have a website somewhere. The thing
I would be leery of is the real root of the problem with the old slosh. It
did not like to stick to the smooth aluminum skins on the inside of the
tank.........you may have the same problem with any other product. Unless
you open up the tank and scuff it all up with a scotchbrite, you may have
adhesion problems. I would like to hear about the tanks you are trying to
fix.....how many leaks and where. Many times they can be
repaired........sometimes the best solution is new tanks. Feel free to call
or email me, I may be able to help.
Evan Johnson
www.evansaviationproducts.com
(530)247-0375
(530)351-1776 cell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie England" <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RV-List: pourable tank sealant??
> --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
>
> I'm aware of the past problems with tank 'sloshing compound'.
>
> Is there a newer compound that will allow 'sloshing' a tank without the
> peeling problems of old?
>
> (I'm asking for a friend, of course. I'd never personally need this
> stuff....)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charlie
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: !New! CS props for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> I guess I am not sure what the answer is regarding the MT two blade
> (metal) prop for the 180HP or 200HP Lycoming (I)O-360. ...
> ... However, to
> assume it has no restrictions on a highly modified engine, based on a
> STC for stock engines, is not precise. I would call MT myself but I
> don't: "sprechen Sie Deutsches"
Hi,
A couple of quick comments. I think all MT props are made of
wood with a composite cover. I have not seen any metal props in
their product portfolio, but perhaps their website is not up
to date. I called MT in Germany just Friday to ask a question,
and they spoke English fine.
I have not yet received my prop, so I can't comment further,
but the guys I know with MT props are happy.
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 Wiring
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| Subject: | Re: pourable tank sealant?? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
I've written Flamemaster; I hope to get a reply on Monday. Some info on
the web indicates there's a 'c' grade that's pourable, but I haven't
found a supplier that shows it in their online catalog. Can the 'b'
grade stuff be cut with MEK to thin it without hurting the effectiveness?
The tank in question is the wing leading edge outboard of the stock
tank. The problem was caused by applying the bead of sealant in line
with the ribs' spar flanges instead of just inside of the rivet line
inside the skin. Because of the gentle radius of the spar (acting as the
back baffle of the new tank bays), the bead of sealant missed the spar
completely. The other leading edge was just done this morning & by
applying the bead next to the rivet line, all seems to be well.
If the joint between the skin & spar can be filled, there shouldn't be a
problem with the rest of the joints & rivets. My big concern is with the
'slosh' coating & then later peeling off the large areas of the tank
that weren't carefully cleaned like the joint areas. A couple of replies
off-list (thanks, guys) indicated that this is the primary problem with
'slosh'.
The outboard skin is thinner than the tank skins & will flex enough to
lift off the spar even with the ribs attached. I'm still tempted to just
drill the rivets, lift the skin & 'recaulk' with regular sealant. It
seems unlikely that it's effectively 'stuck' to the spar, since it's
leaking along over 1/2 the length of the 3 bays that were closed up for
fuel.
Any thoughts on which is the better option?
Thanks,
Charlie
Evan and Megan Johnson wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
>
>You might try to reach the company that makes the "proseal" we all get from
>Vans. I understand that you can get it in different consistencies. They are
>called Flame Master, and I am sure they have a website somewhere. The thing
>I would be leery of is the real root of the problem with the old slosh. It
>did not like to stick to the smooth aluminum skins on the inside of the
>tank.........you may have the same problem with any other product. Unless
>you open up the tank and scuff it all up with a scotchbrite, you may have
>adhesion problems. I would like to hear about the tanks you are trying to
>fix.....how many leaks and where. Many times they can be
>repaired........sometimes the best solution is new tanks. Feel free to call
>or email me, I may be able to help.
>
>Evan Johnson
>www.evansaviationproducts.com
>(530)247-0375
>(530)351-1776 cell
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Charlie England" <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
>To: "RV list" <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: pourable tank sealant??
>
>
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
>>
>>I'm aware of the past problems with tank 'sloshing compound'.
>>
>>Is there a newer compound that will allow 'sloshing' a tank without the
>>peeling problems of old?
>>
>>(I'm asking for a friend, of course. I'd never personally need this
>>stuff....)
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Charlie
>>
>>
>>
>>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "LARRY ADAMSON" <rvhi03@msn.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Bristol
Subject: Re: RV-List: iQue 3600a
--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol <bj034@lafn.org>
>Q. Does the iQue support a NMEA protocol interface?
>A. Unlike most of our GPS units, the iQue does not output NMEA data,
>which is often used for real-time tracking and autopilot systems.
>Q. Can I perform real-time tracking with my iQue and a laptop computer?
>A. The Garmin iQue does not have the capability of performing real-time
>tracking. The iQue does not output data that the computer can use to
>determine its position for tracking purposes. The HotSync process is the
>only communications channel and does not have the ability to stay on
>continuously to transmit/receive data.
THANKS! ---- I'm "really" feeling good now, about my 296! The data output for
an auto-pilot was a major consideration after flying an RV9A with dual axis auto-pilot
(TruTrak)
Of all the FAQ's I researched, I couldn't find this one; not even when I accessd
the Garmin site.
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| Subject: | Re: pourable tank sealant?? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Trotter <ptrotter@acm.org>
Charlie,
I can offer info on the tank sealant, but not on how you use it for your
problem.
The are 3 types of tank sealant as determined by their viscosity. The
common "B" type is the paste we are used to. There is an "A" type that is
brushable, and a "C" type the is designed to be rolled on. I don't think
Flamemaster makes a "C" version, however PRC-DeSoto (Proseal) does.
You can thin the tank sealant. The proper thinner is Toluene, not MEK. The
"A" version is basically the "B" version thinned with about 7% Toluene by
weight. You can safely thin the "B" type with up to 15% Toluene by weight
without changing the characteristics of the material. I would be careful
using any other thinner, because while it may thin it, it may also change
the properties in some way.
You can buy most of the Flamemaster products from Sealpak (316) 942-6211.
They carry most of their products in all different sizes and they have no
minimum order.
Good luck,
Paul Trotter
RV-8 82080 Wing Kit
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie England" <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: pourable tank sealant??
> --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
>
> I've written Flamemaster; I hope to get a reply on Monday. Some info on
> the web indicates there's a 'c' grade that's pourable, but I haven't
> found a supplier that shows it in their online catalog. Can the 'b'
> grade stuff be cut with MEK to thin it without hurting the effectiveness?
>
> The tank in question is the wing leading edge outboard of the stock
> tank. The problem was caused by applying the bead of sealant in line
> with the ribs' spar flanges instead of just inside of the rivet line
> inside the skin. Because of the gentle radius of the spar (acting as the
> back baffle of the new tank bays), the bead of sealant missed the spar
> completely. The other leading edge was just done this morning & by
> applying the bead next to the rivet line, all seems to be well.
>
> If the joint between the skin & spar can be filled, there shouldn't be a
> problem with the rest of the joints & rivets. My big concern is with the
> 'slosh' coating & then later peeling off the large areas of the tank
> that weren't carefully cleaned like the joint areas. A couple of replies
> off-list (thanks, guys) indicated that this is the primary problem with
> 'slosh'.
>
> The outboard skin is thinner than the tank skins & will flex enough to
> lift off the spar even with the ribs attached. I'm still tempted to just
> drill the rivets, lift the skin & 'recaulk' with regular sealant. It
> seems unlikely that it's effectively 'stuck' to the spar, since it's
> leaking along over 1/2 the length of the 3 bays that were closed up for
> fuel.
>
> Any thoughts on which is the better option?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charlie
>
>
>>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol <bj034@lafn.org>
Those FAQ's were for the 3600, not the "a". There were none for the
3600a. I would guess that they'd be the same for both, but maybe not.
However, a friend contacted Garmin by phone and was told that it would
not support an autopilot.
Dave
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LARRY ADAMSON wrote:
>
>THANKS! ---- I'm "really" feeling good now, about my 296! The data output for
an auto-pilot was a major consideration after flying an RV9A with dual axis
auto-pilot (TruTrak)
>Of all the FAQ's I researched, I couldn't find this one; not even when I accessd
the Garmin site.
>do not archive
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Harmonic Vibration |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" <john@fureychrysler.com>
I used the same cowl. NO changes needed. It did start with the new prop so
it is prop related but I don't know that it is defective prop.
John
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| Subject: | For Micky Martin, Wyoming |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Heathco" <cheathco@comcast.net>
I tried to reply to your email but your adr came up undeliverable, try again (Texas
airparks) charlie heathco do not archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Jamie Painter" <jdpainter@jpainter.org>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com>
>
>> I was all ready to run out and buy the new Garmin iQue 3600a GPS until I
>> checked on what kind of output it has. According to Garmin, the only
>> communications it has with the outside world is with "hotsync" and
>> therefore will not be compatible with any other real-time equipment such
>> as an autopilot or laptop.
>> This may not keep me from getting one, but it has made me slow down and
>> give it some more thought. Too bad, it looks like everything I need
>> otherwise.
>>
>> Dave B -6 So Cal
>
>
> I spotted the same thing. It also does not have the ability to have a
> separate/external antenna... bummer.
>
> Randy Lervold
In the operating instructions on page 13 there is a reference to an "external
antenna connector". It says it works with the Garmin GA27C antenna.
Manual is here:
http://www.garmin.com/products/manual.jsp?product=010-00385-00
--
Jamie D. Painter
RV-7A wings N622JP (reserved)
http://rv.jpainter.org
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| Subject: | Oil Air Separator |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Compton" <thecomptons@bellsouth.net>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chuck Jensen
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 12:53 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Oil Air Separator
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com>
>
> Just a point of exactitude. The oil mist is likely coalescing on
> the stainless pot scrubbers, not condensing,
Whew...sure glad we cleared that up.
Randy Compton
Gulf Breeze, FL
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