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1. 05:57 AM - Light arobatic instruction (Charles Heathco)
2. 06:34 AM - Re: Light arobatic instruction (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
3. 07:18 AM - Re: Light arobatic instruction (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
4. 07:58 AM - Elevator trim tab travel (Mickey Coggins)
5. 08:28 AM - Re: Oil Air Separator (Bob J)
6. 08:47 AM - Re: -8A horizontal stab-to-ground distance? (Bordelon, Greg)
7. 08:50 AM - Re: Elevator trim tab travel (Jeff Dowling)
8. 09:00 AM - Re: Elevator trim tab travel (Bryan Jones)
9. 09:13 AM - Re: Elevator trim tab travel (Jeff Dowling)
10. 09:19 AM - Re: Elevator trim tab travel (Bryan Jones)
11. 10:36 AM - Re: RV-List Digest: 27 Msgs - 02/13/05 (LeastDrag93066@aol.com)
12. 10:48 AM - Mooney 201 prop (Kevin Shannon)
13. 12:21 PM - Help Me Spend My Money (Ted Lumpkin)
14. 12:27 PM - Re: Help Me Spend My Money (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky))
15. 12:53 PM - Re: Help Me Spend My Money (John Spicer)
16. 01:25 PM - Re: Help Me Spend My Money (Tony Marshall)
17. 01:31 PM - For Micky Martin, E-mail adr failures (Charles Heathco)
18. 01:46 PM - Re: Help Me Spend My Money (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
19. 02:14 PM - Re: Help Me Spend My Money (Greg Young)
20. 04:41 PM - Re: Help Me Spend My Money (SportAV8R@aol.com)
21. 04:42 PM - Re: Help Me Spend My Money (Aircraft Technical Book Company)
22. 05:21 PM - cleaning fluid for flap motor (Tom Barnes)
23. 05:29 PM - Re: Help Me Spend My Money (HCRV6@aol.com)
24. 05:30 PM - Re: cleaning fluid for flap motor (Jeff Point)
25. 05:50 PM - Re: Help Me Spend My Money (Dave Bristol)
26. 06:00 PM - Re: Light arobatic instruction (Jerry Springer)
27. 06:29 PM - Re: cleaning fluid for flap motor (Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club)
28. 06:36 PM - Re: Help Me Spend My Money (Evan and Megan Johnson)
29. 07:22 PM - > Re: Help Me Spend My Money (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
30. 07:38 PM - Re: Help Me Spend My Money (Brian Kraut)
31. 08:27 PM - Re: Help Me Spend My Money (Stein Bruch)
32. 09:20 PM - Re: Help Me Spend My Money (James E. Clark)
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| Subject: | Light arobatic instruction |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Heathco" <cheathco@comcast.net>
I would like to get some light arobatic training in my RV6a, more of a confidence
builder than anything else. Im in the Atlanta area, will fly to location. charlie
heathco
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| Subject: | Light arobatic instruction |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Can you confirm Charlie that your aircraft log book has entries for
aerobatics flown during phase 1?
Mike
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Heathco
Subject: RV-List: Light arobatic instruction
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Heathco" <cheathco@comcast.net>
I would like to get some light arobatic training in my RV6a, more of a
confidence builder than anything else. Im in the Atlanta area, will fly
to location. charlie heathco
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| Subject: | Light arobatic instruction |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Oh and I forgot to give you the references. Duh
Steve Haslup.
770-931-1631hm 404-829-6171cell Hgr 770-931-1631 shaslup@bellsouth.com
Steve is an accomplished CFII and aerobatic instructor. Has RV
time(mine), owns an rv-like plane. Also he is only 3 hangers up from you
in Hanger 7 and flies the Meyers 360 rv like plane. He is quite good and
I would highly recommend him locally.
Also there is another very accomplished pilot at PDK Dave Hirshman. He
has owned an rv, CFII, and is also a very accomplished aerobatic
instructor and icas performer. He gives some great training in unusual
attitude and spin recovery in a super decathlon out of PDK. He can be
reached here:
American Air Flight Training, Inc.
2000 Airport Road Suite 109
Dekalb Peachtree Airport
Atlanta, GA 30341
770/455-4203 (Office)
I would recommend either one of them for flying off the maneuvers in
your 6A if they have not been done already.
Enjoy.
Mike
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles Heathco
Subject: RV-List: Light arobatic instruction
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Heathco" <cheathco@comcast.net>
I would like to get some light arobatic training in my RV6a, more of a
confidence builder than anything else. Im in the Atlanta area, will fly
to location. charlie heathco
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| Subject: | Elevator trim tab travel |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
Hi,
Is there a recommended max/min travel number for the
elevator trim? Do people typically leave them "balanced",
or adjust them if they are nose heavy or tail heavy?
Since I have an 8, I suspect that I will be nose heavy
when flying solo, and was wondering if having a bit more
elevator up trim would be a good idea.
Thanks,
Mickey
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 Wiring
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Air Separator |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com>
Two years ago I tried pot scrubbers and after a few months of use I
removed them from inside the seperator. What happens is the scrubber
pads introduce a restriction into the breather line, which pressurizes
the case, which causes small oil leaks in unimaginable places. I
didn't notice much of an improvement with them in there. In fact,
after disconnecting the seperator and experimenting with the outlet
location I found that the seperator I had didn't do much "seperating"
to begin with.
Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying F1 under const.
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| Subject: | -8A horizontal stab-to-ground distance? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bordelon, Greg" <gbordelon@hess.com>
Mark,
FWIW, My Mustang II with the tall gear slides under the horizontal of my
hangar mates RV6A.
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
czechsix@juno.com
Subject: RV-List: -8A horizontal stab-to-ground distance?
--> RV-List message posted by: czechsix@juno.com
Guys,
I sent this message yesterday but it doesn't look like it came through
on the Lists....probably Juno's fault. Anyway I'm wondering if anybody
with a finished -8A could measure the distance between the lower surface
of the horizontal stab and the ground for me. My airplane isn't quite
finished but I have an opportunity to go in on a hangar with a friend
who has a Mustang II. If his wingtip will fit under the -8A's
horizontal stab, the two planes will both fit and save us some hangar
expenses. I called Vans but they were unwilling to measure their -8A
and instead pointed me to the 3-view autocad drawing. I seriously doubt
I will get a good number off the drawing because it's not going to take
into consideration gear leg flexing, tire compression, etc. I'm sure
the stab-to-ground dimension will also very somewhat with engine/prop
configuration and loading, but if I can get one or more real-world
measurements it would help me out...
Thanks!
--Mark Navratil
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
RV-8A N2D trying to finish up wiring....
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator trim tab travel |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
I had to adjust mine after my first couple of flights. I think setting it
neutral is probably the best way to start. Pitch forces are very light so
its not difficult to land in an out of trim position.
Shemp/Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
165 hours
Chicago/Louisville
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mickey Coggins" <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
Subject: RV-List: Elevator trim tab travel
> --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
>
> Hi,
>
> Is there a recommended max/min travel number for the
> elevator trim? Do people typically leave them "balanced",
> or adjust them if they are nose heavy or tail heavy?
>
> Since I have an 8, I suspect that I will be nose heavy
> when flying solo, and was wondering if having a bit more
> elevator up trim would be a good idea.
>
> Thanks,
> Mickey
> --
> Mickey Coggins
> http://www.rv8.ch/
> #82007 Wiring
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator trim tab travel |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bryan Jones" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
Center your travel (no bias). I can't remember doing anything other than
what the instructions say. Mine's essentially neutral after solo flight.
Also, keep some surplus speed on short final (80 mph or so). Don't try to
full-stall it solo until you have many hours. I ran out of elevator at
about 3' agl flaring for landing after my first flight - approaching too
slowly.
Bryan -8
Houston
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is there a recommended max/min travel number for the
> > elevator trim? Do people typically leave them "balanced",
> > or adjust them if they are nose heavy or tail heavy?
> >
> > Since I have an 8, I suspect that I will be nose heavy
> > when flying solo, and was wondering if having a bit more
> > elevator up trim would be a good idea.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mickey
> > --
> > Mickey Coggins
> > http://www.rv8.ch/
> > #82007 Wiring
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator trim tab travel |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
That's the reason you should do some slow flight and approach to stalls on
your first flight. You dont want to have any surprises in the flare!
Shemp/Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
165 hours
Chicago/Louisville
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Jones" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Elevator trim tab travel
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bryan Jones" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
>
> Center your travel (no bias). I can't remember doing anything other than
> what the instructions say. Mine's essentially neutral after solo flight.
>
> Also, keep some surplus speed on short final (80 mph or so). Don't try to
> full-stall it solo until you have many hours. I ran out of elevator at
> about 3' agl flaring for landing after my first flight - approaching too
> slowly.
>
> Bryan -8
> Houston
>
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Is there a recommended max/min travel number for the
>> > elevator trim? Do people typically leave them "balanced",
>> > or adjust them if they are nose heavy or tail heavy?
>> >
>> > Since I have an 8, I suspect that I will be nose heavy
>> > when flying solo, and was wondering if having a bit more
>> > elevator up trim would be a good idea.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Mickey
>> > --
>> > Mickey Coggins
>> > http://www.rv8.ch/
>> > #82007 Wiring
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator trim tab travel |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bryan Jones" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
I did. But thanks.
Bryan -8 710 hrs
>From: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Elevator trim tab travel
>Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:12:26 -0600
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
>
>That's the reason you should do some slow flight and approach to stalls on
>your first flight. You dont want to have any surprises in the flare!
>
>Shemp/Jeff Dowling
>RV-6A, N915JD
>165 hours
>Chicago/Louisville
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bryan Jones" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Elevator trim tab travel
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Bryan Jones" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Center your travel (no bias). I can't remember doing anything other
>than
> > what the instructions say. Mine's essentially neutral after solo
>flight.
> >
> > Also, keep some surplus speed on short final (80 mph or so). Don't try
>to
> > full-stall it solo until you have many hours. I ran out of elevator at
> > about 3' agl flaring for landing after my first flight - approaching too
> > slowly.
> >
> > Bryan -8
> > Houston
> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > Is there a recommended max/min travel number for the
> >> > elevator trim? Do people typically leave them "balanced",
> >> > or adjust them if they are nose heavy or tail heavy?
> >> >
> >> > Since I have an 8, I suspect that I will be nose heavy
> >> > when flying solo, and was wondering if having a bit more
> >> > elevator up trim would be a good idea.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Mickey
> >> > --
> >> > Mickey Coggins
> >> > http://www.rv8.ch/
> >> > #82007 Wiring
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-List Digest: 27 Msgs - 02/13/05 |
--> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com
Hi all,
First, I need to apologize to all of you that the information I provided
conflicted with your beliefs.
Second, I need to apologize for not having the foresight to include all
required technical information.
If having the theoretical optimum efficiency propeller was required for
flight, we would still be waiting for the Wright brother's first flight.
From my old fading memory (Hi Doug Preston), the maximum theoretical
propeller efficiency for a 2 blade propeller is around 91.5%, and the 3 blade is
around 90.7%.
The actual propeller efficiency can be very close to the theoretical maximum
propeller efficiency.
Since we are really concerned about the real world application of existing
propellers for our aircraft, and are not still waiting for the perfect
propeller, where does that leave us?
IMHO, typical propeller efficiencies for our aircraft in cruise are about
88%.
On a RV-6A with a Lycoming O-360-A1A engine, I tested four different
propellers and found the actual propeller efficiencies to be almost identical.
Three of the propellers were 2 blade propellers. One was a 3 blade propeller.
So now I'll tell you what I believe.
The actual propeller efficiencies are far enough off of the theoretical
propeller efficiencies that a custom designed 3 blade propeller can have the
same, or better, actual propeller efficiency than a 2 blade propeller.
In fact, I asked MT Propeller to design a 4 blade propeller for my HR2. The
propeller efficiency analysis predicts the same efficiency as the 3 blade MT
Rocket propeller. Once I decided on the paint colors for the propeller, I
will be ordering a 4 blade MT propeller for my HR2.
By flight test, I already established the cruise propeller efficiency to be
the same between the 2 blade Hartzell propellers (both "D" and "J" blade) and
the 3 blade MT Rocket propeller.
More real world stuff, if you are not interested in cruise performance.
Let's say your mission is to go as fast as possible on the deck at maximum
RPM.
My performance data indicates that the 2 blade Hartzell propeller works
slightly better on the RV-6A under these conditions.
Tracy Saylor's performance data between his highly modified Hartzell
propeller and an MT 3 blade propeller says the same thing.
For now, "Use the 2 blade Hartzell propeller."
Back to normal cruise conditions at 1,000' and 12,000'.
Tracy Saylor's data shows that the 2 blade and 3 blade propeller performance
is the same at 2500 RPM and below.
Why go below 2500 RPM? (I know. You didn't ask.) (Back to the RV-6A.)
Because the cruise efficiency (and range) is optimized at the lower RPM.
Even as low as 2100 to 2200 RPM. (Full throttle fuel flow decreases MUCH
faster than airspeed below 2500 RPM. At 12,000', the airspeed didn't appear to
change between 2500 RPM and 2200 RPM. Just the fuel flow changed.)
MT Propeller has just completed the analysis and testing on their new 3
blade RV propeller for the Lycoming 360 non counterweighted engines.
The 3 blade MTV-12-B/183-59b manufactured after January 2005 has no mid
range RPM restrictions on the Lycoming 360 engine. Unfortunately for me, I just
ordered the metal 2 blade MTV-15-B/183-402 propeller for my RV-6A.
(Yes, MT Propeller has an aluminum blade 2 blade RV propeller for the
Lycoming 360 engine with no mid range RPM restriction. Vibration testing done
using high compression pistons and electronic ignition.)
If you have any technical questions regarding MT Propeller's testing, please
send Eric Greindl an email at _Eric.Greindl@mt-propeller.com_
(mailto:Eric.Greindl@mt-propeller.com) , or call Eric at 011-49-9429-94-09-19. Eric speaks
excellent English and Germany is 8 hours earlier than PST. (Eric's title is
Sales Manager, but his actual function appears to be general manager.)
Regards,
Jim Ayers
In a message dated 02/13/2005 11:59:39 PM Pacific Standard Time,
rv-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
Les:
I guess I am not sure what the answer is regarding the MT two blade (metal)
prop
for the 180HP or 200HP Lycoming (I)O-360. You state they have certified
applications
and "Done that been there" but inquiring minds want to know...I think
the point Kevin was making is:
Has MT specifically tested their prop with Lightspeed ignition, LASAR
ignition,
FADEC and High Compression Pistons. Hartzell is supporting the experimental
market
by actually testing a wide variety of props and even brands of engines like
the XP-360, on a RV-8 of all things. I sure would like to see something like
that from MT, stating they have done vibration surveys with these different
configurations. No offense, but what does "Done that been there" mean? Prop
manufactures
have no obligation to test props for the experimental market.
As far as "being sorry" for those of us with Hartzell props, I know you are
kidding.
Hartzell performance and the performance of their new Blended Airfoil model
is without compare and has no mid-range RPM restriction on the 180hp Lyc
with
E ignition or FADEC. Also the Hartzell has widely available service and
parts,
new or reconditioned, and they cost less than the MT. If the new MT has no
restrictions with 10.5 to 1 pistons and E ignition, than this is a fantastic
additional choice for the experimental market. However, to assume it has no
restrictions
on a highly modified engine, based on a STC for stock engines, is
not precise. I would call MT myself but I don't: "sprechen Sie Deutsches"
Keep up the good work Les, Cheers George
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Kevin Shannon" <kshannon@seanet.com>
Does anyone have a McCauley B2D34C214A (Mooney 201) on an RV? I have an
opportunity to buy a used one for my -8 / IO360A1B6 and wondering what
the experiences of the RV world have been. Thanks in advance for any
input
Kevin Shannon
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| Subject: | Help Me Spend My Money |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ted Lumpkin <tlump51@sbcglobal.net>
I conducted the first flight of my 10 year RV-4 project last week. N515TL (aka
- "The Dirty Bird") is now a flying RV. Aerosport Power IO360; inverted oil;
Hartzell constant speed prop; Navaid autopilot; 1023 lbs. empty; un-painted.
No squawks. Couldn't be happier with the performance.
One of the nice things about taking so long to complete the project is that you're
able to save up a few bucks along the way.
I have a budget for ONE big ticket item this year. I'm interested in opinions
on these choices:
A. Paint
B. Lightweight composite c/s prop
C. Grand Rapids Tech. EFIS
D. FADEC system
E. Start on a RV-8 kit
F. Take the wife on a trip to Fiji.
BTW, my mission profile is VFR, primarily sport aerobatics and not much traveling
planned.
Thanks in advance for your advice,
Ted
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| Subject: | Re: Help Me Spend My Money |
--> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
Item B followed by C.
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-------------- Original message --------------
> --> RV-List message posted by: Ted Lumpkin
>
> I conducted the first flight of my 10 year RV-4 project last week. N515TL (aka
> - "The Dirty Bird") is now a flying RV. Aerosport Power IO360; inverted oil;
> Hartzell constant speed prop; Navaid autopilot; 1023 lbs. empty; un-painted.
No
> squawks. Couldn't be happier with the performance.
> One of the nice things about taking so long to complete the project is that
> you're able to save up a few bucks along the way.
>
> I have a budget for ONE big ticket item this year. I'm interested in opinions
> on these choices:
> A. Paint
> B. Lightweight composite c/s prop
> C. Grand Rapids Tech. EFIS
> D. FADEC system
> E. Start on a RV-8 kit
> F. Take the wife on a trip to Fiji.
>
> BTW, my mission profile is VFR, primarily sport aerobatics and not much
> traveling planned.
>
> Thanks in advance for your advice,
>
> Ted
>
>
>
>
>
>
Item B followed by C.
do not archive
-------------- Original message --------------
-- RV-List message posted by: Ted Lumpkin <TLUMP51@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
I conducted the first flight of my 10 year RV-4 project last week. N515TL (aka
- "The Dirty Bird") is now a flying RV. Aerosport Power IO360; inverted oil;
Hartzell constant speed prop; Navaid autopilot; 1023 lbs. empty; un-painted. No
squawks. Couldn't be happier with the performance.
One of the nice things about taking so long to complete the project is that
you're able to save up a few bucks along the way.
I have a budget for ONE big ticket item this year. I'm interested in opinions
on these choices:
A. Paint
B. Lightweight composite c/s prop
C. Grand Rapids Tech. EFIS
D. FADEC system
E. Start on a RV-8 kit
F. Take the
wife on a trip to Fiji.
BTW, my mission profile is VFR, primarily sport aerobatics and not much
traveling planned.
Thanks in advance for your advice,
Ted
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| Subject: | Re: Help Me Spend My Money |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Spicer" <spike@spikesplace.org>
paint is my vote.
Do not archive
-- John
www.rivetbangers.com - A marriage of web and mail
www.spikesplace.org/cgi-php/serendipity - Builder's log
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| Subject: | Re: Help Me Spend My Money |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tony Marshall" <tony@lambros.com>
Does your wife want to go to Fiji? If so....my vote is F....She deserves
it....after your 10 year RV project!
Tony Marshall
RV6
Polson, MT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Lumpkin" <tlump51@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RV-List: Help Me Spend My Money
> --> RV-List message posted by: Ted Lumpkin <tlump51@sbcglobal.net>
>
> I conducted the first flight of my 10 year RV-4 project last week. N515TL
> (aka - "The Dirty Bird") is now a flying RV. Aerosport Power IO360;
> inverted oil; Hartzell constant speed prop; Navaid autopilot; 1023 lbs.
> empty; un-painted. No squawks. Couldn't be happier with the performance.
> One of the nice things about taking so long to complete the project is
> that you're able to save up a few bucks along the way.
>
> I have a budget for ONE big ticket item this year. I'm interested in
> opinions on these choices:
> A. Paint
> B. Lightweight composite c/s prop
> C. Grand Rapids Tech. EFIS
> D. FADEC system
> E. Start on a RV-8 kit
> F. Take the wife on a trip to Fiji.
>
> BTW, my mission profile is VFR, primarily sport aerobatics and not much
> traveling planned.
>
> Thanks in advance for your advice,
>
> Ted
>
>
>
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| Subject: | For Micky Martin, E-mail adr failures |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Heathco" <cheathco@comcast.net>
Micky, I keep getting adr failure back when tying to reply to your e-mail. Re Aero
Estates, I have a friend there and plan to check it out as soon as I get a
weather window.
I rec your mails ok, just cant get reply to go back to you. If you will e-mail
a ph# I will call. charlie. Do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: Help Me Spend My Money |
--> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com
Ted,
Paint is my vote, too.
You'll get tired of people asking you what your paint scheme is going to be?
Are you building that airplane? Did you just get it done? When are you
going to paint it? Are you ever going to paint it? On and on and on!
I know it flies fine, but I wish now that I had painted mine before flying
it. Now, I am going to be without it while it gets painted -- that's the
worst part.
Do not archive.
Dan Hopper
Walton, IN
RV-7A (Flying since July)
In a message dated 2/14/05 3:23:42 P.M. US Eastern Standard Time,
tlump51@sbcglobal.net writes:
--> RV-List message posted by: Ted Lumpkin <tlump51@sbcglobal.net>
I conducted the first flight of my 10 year RV-4 project last week. N515TL
(aka - "The Dirty Bird") is now a flying RV. Aerosport Power IO360; inverted
oil; Hartzell constant speed prop; Navaid autopilot; 1023 lbs. empty;
un-painted. No squawks. Couldn't be happier with the performance.
One of the nice things about taking so long to complete the project is that
you're able to save up a few bucks along the way.
I have a budget for ONE big ticket item this year. I'm interested in
opinions on these choices:
A. Paint
B. Lightweight composite c/s prop
C. Grand Rapids Tech. EFIS
D. FADEC system
E. Start on a RV-8 kit
F. Take the wife on a trip to Fiji.
BTW, my mission profile is VFR, primarily sport aerobatics and not much
traveling planned.
Thanks in advance for your advice,
Ted
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| Subject: | Help Me Spend My Money |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com>
Paint - A local RV just got painted after 7-8 years in the rough. It made a phenomenal
change in appearance and people's attitude when viewing it.
Greg
> I have a budget for ONE big ticket item this year. I'm interested in opinions
on these choices:
> A. Paint
> B. Lightweight composite c/s prop
> C. Grand Rapids Tech. EFIS
> D. FADEC system
> E. Start on a RV-8 kit
> F. Take the wife on a trip to Fiji.
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| Subject: | Re: Help Me Spend My Money |
--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
The correct choice is "G":
Install Trio autopilot.
At least, I'm doing that before I splurge on the GRT EFIS, which is definitely
a must-have, someday...
-Stormy
RV-6A
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| Subject: | Re: Help Me Spend My Money |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com>
Taking your wife to Fiji will probably free you up for one of your other
choices
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Lumpkin" <tlump51@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RV-List: Help Me Spend My Money
> --> RV-List message posted by: Ted Lumpkin <tlump51@sbcglobal.net>
>
> I conducted the first flight of my 10 year RV-4 project last week. N515TL
(aka - "The Dirty Bird") is now a flying RV. Aerosport Power IO360;
inverted oil; Hartzell constant speed prop; Navaid autopilot; 1023 lbs.
empty; un-painted. No squawks. Couldn't be happier with the performance.
> One of the nice things about taking so long to complete the project is
that you're able to save up a few bucks along the way.
>
> I have a budget for ONE big ticket item this year. I'm interested in
opinions on these choices:
> A. Paint
> B. Lightweight composite c/s prop
> C. Grand Rapids Tech. EFIS
> D. FADEC system
> E. Start on a RV-8 kit
> F. Take the wife on a trip to Fiji.
>
> BTW, my mission profile is VFR, primarily sport aerobatics and not much
traveling planned.
>
> Thanks in advance for your advice,
>
> Ted
>
>
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| Subject: | cleaning fluid for flap motor |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Barnes" <skytop@megsinet.net>
List,
My flap motor is just begining to show intermittent operation after 80+ hours
and I would like to pull it out and do a quick cleaning with some sort of aerosol
cleaning solution, followed by blow-drying with compressed air.
My first thought was to use something like brake cleaning solvent, but I'm
reluctant because there may be something plastic in the motor that may melt.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Tom Barnes -6
Buffalo Grove, IL
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| Subject: | Re: Help Me Spend My Money |
--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
In a message dated 2/14/05 1:26:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, tony@lambros.com
writes:
<< Does your wife want to go to Fiji? If so....my vote is F....She deserves
it....after your 10 year RV project!
>>
That would be my vote also, and since you then will not have to pay alimony
you can probably still go for a paint job.
Definitely do not archive.
Harry Crosby
Pleasanton, California
RV-6, flying!
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| Subject: | Re: cleaning fluid for flap motor |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Hi Tom,
I just went through the same thing. Just use a Q-tip with some alcohol
or acetone to clean the gunk off the commutator and brushes, and
compressed air to dry.
Jeff Point
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Help Me Spend My Money |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol <bj034@lafn.org>
Congratulations Ted! Ya gotta start with paint then the rest will follow.
Dave B
do not archive
Ted Lumpkin wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Ted Lumpkin <tlump51@sbcglobal.net>
>
>I conducted the first flight of my 10 year RV-4 project last week. N515TL (aka
- "The Dirty Bird") is now a flying RV. Aerosport Power IO360; inverted oil;
Hartzell constant speed prop; Navaid autopilot; 1023 lbs. empty; un-painted.
No squawks. Couldn't be happier with the performance.
>One of the nice things about taking so long to complete the project is that you're
able to save up a few bucks along the way.
>
>I have a budget for ONE big ticket item this year. I'm interested in opinions
on these choices:
>A. Paint
>B. Lightweight composite c/s prop
>C. Grand Rapids Tech. EFIS
>D. FADEC system
>E. Start on a RV-8 kit
>F. Take the wife on a trip to Fiji.
>
>BTW, my mission profile is VFR, primarily sport aerobatics and not much traveling
planned.
>
>Thanks in advance for your advice,
>
>Ted
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Light arobatic instruction |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@comcast.net>
Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta) wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
>
>Can you confirm Charlie that your aircraft log book has entries for
>aerobatics flown during phase 1?
>Mike
>Do not archive
>
>
If he does not have the aircraft log entries all he has to do is put his
aircraft back in phase 1 and fly the aerobatics
he want to do with his aircraft. I don't know how many hours would be
required to stay in phase 1. Do the log book
entries and should be good to go. .....Right Das Fed?
Jerry
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| Subject: | Re: cleaning fluid for flap motor |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
Tom Barnes wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Barnes" <skytop@megsinet.net>
>
>List,
> My flap motor is just begining to show intermittent operation after 80+ hours
and I would like to pull it out and do a quick cleaning with some sort of
aerosol cleaning solution, followed by blow-drying with compressed air.
> My first thought was to use something like brake cleaning solvent, but I'm
reluctant because there may be something plastic in the motor that may melt.
Any ideas?
>
>Thanks,
>Tom Barnes -6
>Buffalo Grove, IL
>
>
>
>
Just be careful that whatever cleaner you use wont desolve the varnish
on the copper magnet wire in the winding, if it gets on it.. Phil
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Help Me Spend My Money |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
GO TO FIJI!........I promise you it will be well spent energy and cash
(barring any tidal waves). Think about your future man!...you have a great
flying plane now and it will help ease your wife into the next project. All
of those other toys will come with time.....and lets face it you only live
once. Enjoy yourself and try to send us a virtual postcard while you are on
the beach.
Cheers........
Evan Johnson
www.evansaviationproducts.com
(530)247-0375
(530)351-1776 cell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Lumpkin" <tlump51@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RV-List: Help Me Spend My Money
> --> RV-List message posted by: Ted Lumpkin <tlump51@sbcglobal.net>
>
> I conducted the first flight of my 10 year RV-4 project last week. N515TL
(aka - "The Dirty Bird") is now a flying RV. Aerosport Power IO360;
inverted oil; Hartzell constant speed prop; Navaid autopilot; 1023 lbs.
empty; un-painted. No squawks. Couldn't be happier with the performance.
> One of the nice things about taking so long to complete the project is
that you're able to save up a few bucks along the way.
>
> I have a budget for ONE big ticket item this year. I'm interested in
opinions on these choices:
> A. Paint
> B. Lightweight composite c/s prop
> C. Grand Rapids Tech. EFIS
> D. FADEC system
> E. Start on a RV-8 kit
> F. Take the wife on a trip to Fiji.
>
> BTW, my mission profile is VFR, primarily sport aerobatics and not much
traveling planned.
>
> Thanks in advance for your advice,
>
> Ted
>
>
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| Subject: | > RE: Help Me Spend My Money |
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
Definitely PAINT !!
Then it will be pretty enough your wife will be happy just flying in it.
Think of all the gas money you saved in not going to Fiji !!!
Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
Charleston,Arkansas
Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
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| Subject: | Help Me Spend My Money |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kraut@engalt.com>
Forget Fiji. For the price of that trip you can take your wife on a flying
adventure in the RV all over the country.
Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ted Lumpkin
Subject: RV-List: Help Me Spend My Money
--> RV-List message posted by: Ted Lumpkin <tlump51@sbcglobal.net>
I conducted the first flight of my 10 year RV-4 project last week. N515TL
(aka - "The Dirty Bird") is now a flying RV. Aerosport Power IO360;
inverted oil; Hartzell constant speed prop; Navaid autopilot; 1023 lbs.
empty; un-painted. No squawks. Couldn't be happier with the performance.
One of the nice things about taking so long to complete the project is that
you're able to save up a few bucks along the way.
I have a budget for ONE big ticket item this year. I'm interested in
opinions on these choices:
A. Paint
B. Lightweight composite c/s prop
C. Grand Rapids Tech. EFIS
D. FADEC system
E. Start on a RV-8 kit
F. Take the wife on a trip to Fiji.
BTW, my mission profile is VFR, primarily sport aerobatics and not much
traveling planned.
Thanks in advance for your advice,
Ted
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| Subject: | Help Me Spend My Money |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
OK, I'm probably going to be the only one here who says:
"Build another RV"!
I've done two of them now, and I think I've got it all worked out. By the
3rd one, you can build EXACTLY what you want, install ALL the goodies, bells
& whistles you didn't have enough money to afford the first or second time,
and the plane will be paid for!
I plan on starting my 3rd RV this summer, but I can't decide between a 7,8,9
or 10! They all have their advantages to me. I think I need one of each!
It will also fill the inevitable builders withdrawl that will come back
sooner or later when the weather is to crappy to fly. Additionally, if you
don't keep that block of time spoken for that you've been utilizing for the
past 10 years on your plane, your sure to find plenty of "honey do" projects
to fill that time. What would you rather be doing?
Just my 2 cents!
Cheers,
Stein Bruch
RV6's, Minneapolis
Do Not Archive
PS, GREAT JOB on keeping the weight down with all those goodies hanging out
front!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ted Lumpkin
Subject: RV-List: Help Me Spend My Money
--> RV-List message posted by: Ted Lumpkin <tlump51@sbcglobal.net>
I conducted the first flight of my 10 year RV-4 project last week. N515TL
(aka - "The Dirty Bird") is now a flying RV. Aerosport Power IO360;
inverted oil; Hartzell constant speed prop; Navaid autopilot; 1023 lbs.
empty; un-painted. No squawks. Couldn't be happier with the performance.
One of the nice things about taking so long to complete the project is that
you're able to save up a few bucks along the way.
I have a budget for ONE big ticket item this year. I'm interested in
opinions on these choices:
A. Paint
B. Lightweight composite c/s prop
C. Grand Rapids Tech. EFIS
D. FADEC system
E. Start on a RV-8 kit
F. Take the wife on a trip to Fiji.
BTW, my mission profile is VFR, primarily sport aerobatics and not much
traveling planned.
Thanks in advance for your advice,
Ted
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| Subject: | Help Me Spend My Money |
--> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
Well you asked for opinions so here's mine.
0. Ask the wife for HER opinion and then,
1. F, Wife to Fiji if that's what she says. Should go a LONG way on
EVERYTHING else
2. C, Put the EFIS *in* now, the next two items can be added easily AFTER
the fact.
3. A, Paint ... You and everyone around you will feel good about how it
looks.
4. B, Prop ... And added bonus down the road.
James
| -----Original Message-----
| From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
| server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ted Lumpkin
| Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 3:21 PM
| To: rv-list@matronics.com
| Subject: RV-List: Help Me Spend My Money
|
| --> RV-List message posted by: Ted Lumpkin <tlump51@sbcglobal.net>
|
| I conducted the first flight of my 10 year RV-4 project last week.
| N515TL (aka - "The Dirty Bird") is now a flying RV. Aerosport Power
| IO360; inverted oil; Hartzell constant speed prop; Navaid autopilot; 1023
| lbs. empty; un-painted. No squawks. Couldn't be happier with the
| performance.
| One of the nice things about taking so long to complete the project is
| that you're able to save up a few bucks along the way.
|
| I have a budget for ONE big ticket item this year. I'm interested in
| opinions on these choices:
| A. Paint
| B. Lightweight composite c/s prop
| C. Grand Rapids Tech. EFIS
| D. FADEC system
| E. Start on a RV-8 kit
| F. Take the wife on a trip to Fiji.
|
| BTW, my mission profile is VFR, primarily sport aerobatics and not much
| traveling planned.
|
| Thanks in advance for your advice,
|
| Ted
|
|
|
|
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