RV-List Digest Archive

Fri 02/18/05


Total Messages Posted: 27



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:47 AM - Left/Right/Both Fuel Experiment (sjhdcl@kingston.net)
     2. 06:39 AM - Re: How many clecos needed for wings? (Bob Collins)
     3. 07:17 AM - Re: Expermental Inspections (Tailgummer@aol.com)
     4. 07:27 AM - Re: Expermental Inspections (Tailgummer@aol.com)
     5. 07:50 AM - Re: Expermental Inspections (cgalley)
     6. 08:02 AM - Re: Expermental Inspections (Sam Buchanan)
     7. 08:05 AM - Re: RV-List hartzell CS props (LeastDrag93066@aol.com)
     8. 09:13 AM - Re: Expermental Inspections (cgalley)
     9. 09:29 AM - pneumatic rivet squeezers (Stephanie Marshall)
    10. 10:02 AM - Re: Expermental Inspections (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky))
    11. 10:22 AM - Re: pneumatic rivet squeezers (Rick Galati)
    12. 10:45 AM - Re: Titanium Tie downs (Randy Simpson) (Bob)
    13. 10:47 AM - Re: Re: How many clecos needed for wings? (Larry Bowen)
    14. 10:58 AM - Titanium Tie downs (Randy Simpson) (Tony Marshall)
    15. 11:02 AM - Re: Titanium Tie downs (Randy Simpson) clamav-milter (Scott Bilinski)
    16. 11:49 AM - Re: Re: RV-List hartzell CS props (Randy Lervold)
    17. 01:12 PM - Re: polished propeller (Crosley, Rich)
    18. 02:26 PM - Re: RV-List Re: Hartzell CS props ()
    19. 03:07 PM - Assignment of reserved N number (Richard Suffoletto)
    20. 03:36 PM - Landoll prop balancer (Ivan McLaws)
    21. 03:47 PM - Re: Assignment of reserved N number (Bill Cary)
    22. 05:17 PM - Re: Titanium Tie downs (Randy Simpson) (Vanremog@aol.com)
    23. 06:02 PM - Re: Landoll prop balancer (Scott Vanartsdalen)
    24. 06:11 PM - oil filter ()
    25. 06:57 PM - Re: pneumatic rivet squeezers (Mark Grieve)
    26. 07:54 PM - Re: Titanium Tie downs (Randy Simpson) (Keith Hedrick OD)
    27. 10:05 PM - Re: oil filter (Ross S)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:47:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Left/Right/Both Fuel Experiment
    From: sjhdcl@kingston.net
    --> RV-List message posted by: sjhdcl@kingston.net To answer why low wing aircraft do not use a fuel selector with both on it perform this entertaining experiment. This one is my favorites. Take 2 ice cold beers. Drink 1/2 of one. Put a straw in each bottle and suck away on both at the same time. You have selected both on the selector. When the 1st is gone, you're sucking air and the engine quits even though there is fuel remaining. Now for a high wing aircraft. Put on your Sunday Superbowl beer helmet insert 2 straws in 2 ice cold beers and drink away. When one can is empty, the other one is still providing a nice flow. Of course with any experiment it must be done at least 3 trials so repeat the experiment several times. Do not rivet anything after performing this experiment. Back to the garage. Steve RV7A #2


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    Time: 06:39:10 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Collins" <bcollins@visi.com>
    Subject: Re: How many clecos needed for wings?
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" <bcollins@visi.com> I was pretty anal when building the wings. I had the skins, leading edge and fuel tank going at the same time. When I was building the emp, I ordered a few clecoes everytime I made a tool order. I ended up with 1 1/2 milk jugs of clecos and at some point, I think I had every hole in the entire wing structure with a cleco in it. I just felt better about alignment and stuff having everything clecoed. But I felt better as I removed a cleco, drilled...removed another cleco. As I was building the fuel tanik, there was no way I was going to put clecoes only in every other hole as I ProSealed, although I realize you could get away with it. And at the end of each tank, I didn't bother cleaning them. I just tossed 'em. into another bucket and they became "the ProSeal clecos." Obviously, YMMV Bob St. Paul (do not archive)


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    Time: 07:17:26 AM PST US
    From: Tailgummer@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Expermental Inspections
    --> RV-List message posted by: Tailgummer@aol.com Can you explain how an EAA inspection "improves your insurance rates"? Can you cite a specific example/policy/company? Many of us are eager to find out. Thanks. John D'Onofrio


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    Time: 07:27:53 AM PST US
    From: Tailgummer@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Expermental Inspections
    --> RV-List message posted by: Tailgummer@aol.com In a message dated 2/17/2005 2:55:47 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, cgalley@qcbc.org writes: --> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> You only need the one final inspection but it is a wise idea and improves your insurance rates if you get an EAA TC to inspect as you go along, Its free. the FAA will give you the final inspection as well but you have to plan ahead to get it done when you want it. Cy Galley EAA Safety Programs Editor Always looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot ----- Original Message ----- From: "wskimike" <wskimike@mchsi.com> Subject: RV-List: Expermental Inspections Can you explain how an EAA inspection "improves your insurance rates"? Can you cite a specific example/policy/company? Many of us are eager to find out. Thanks. John D'Onofrio


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    Time: 07:50:51 AM PST US
    From: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
    Subject: Re: Expermental Inspections
    --> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> Poor wording on my part. You can get first flight insurance by having 3 TC inspections and using the EAA Flight Advisor program. Having coverage does improve your insurance but not necessarily the rates. Cy Galley EAA Safety Programs Editor Always looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot ----- Original Message ----- From: <Tailgummer@aol.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Expermental Inspections > --> RV-List message posted by: Tailgummer@aol.com > > Can you explain how an EAA inspection "improves your insurance rates"? Can > you cite a specific example/policy/company? Many of us are eager to find > out. Thanks. > > John D'Onofrio > >


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    Time: 08:02:08 AM PST US
    From: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
    Subject: Re: Expermental Inspections
    --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net> cgalley wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> > > Poor wording on my part. You can get first flight insurance by having 3 TC > inspections and using the EAA Flight Advisor program. Having coverage does > improve your insurance but not necessarily the rates. Is that option still available, and if so, which companies? Sam Buchanan (need the answer since I get asked this by new builders)


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    Time: 08:05:43 AM PST US
    From: LeastDrag93066@aol.com
    Subject: Re: RV-List hartzell CS props
    --> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com Can anyone tell me how many different aircraft were used to obtain this data. The article states that more than one aircraft was used. I would guess from reading the article that at least 4 different aircraft were used. Regards, Jim Ayers In a message dated 02/18/2005 12:02:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, rv-list-digest@matronics.com writes: ** The RVator, 1st issue, 2004, pg 5, test of 8 prop's at 8,500', full throt, 2500 rpm. Hartzell C2YR (2 metal blade) = 208.9 Whirlwind 200RV (2 comp blade) = 206.9 Whirlwind 200C (2 comp blade) = 205.6 Hartzell C2YK (2 metal blade) = 205.4 Aerocomposite ((2 comp blade) = 204.6 Whrilwind 150 (3 comp blade) = 201.9 MT 12B (3 wood / comp blade) = 200.7 Sensenich 72FM (fixed 2blade) = 207.9 (1)


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    Time: 09:13:41 AM PST US
    From: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
    Subject: Re: Expermental Inspections
    --> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> From the EAA insurance page... EAA AIRCRAFT INSURANCE PLAN EXPANSIONS a.. Sport Pilot - Light Sport Aircraft READY b.. No Deductibles * c.. First Flight Coverage, (with successful participation in the EAA Flight Advisor Program) * d.. $5,000 Coverage for personal effects of passengers e.. $10,000 Medical Payments Coverage f.. $25,000 Search and Rescue Coverage g.. $25,000 Emergency Flight Conditions Coverage h.. $50,000 Aircraft Hangar and Contents Coverage i.. Non-Owned Aircraft Coverage (including experimental-amateur built aircraft) j.. No Family Sub-Limit Restriction k.. Per Passenger Coverage (no per person restrictions) l.. Liability Coverage after the sale of owned (insured) aircraft, (up to a maximum of one year or the total number days the policy was enforce prior to the sale) * Some exceptions may apply. To obtain a quote, contact a representative of the EAA Aircraft Insurance Plan at Falcon Insurance Agency by calling (toll free) 1-866-647-4322 http://www.eaa.org/benefits/aircraft_insurance.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Buchanan" <sbuc@hiwaay.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: Expermental Inspections > --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net> > > cgalley wrote: > > --> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> > > > > Poor wording on my part. You can get first flight insurance by having 3 TC > > inspections and using the EAA Flight Advisor program. Having coverage does > > improve your insurance but not necessarily the rates. > > > Is that option still available, and if so, which companies? > > Sam Buchanan (need the answer since I get asked this by new builders) > >


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    Time: 09:29:07 AM PST US
    Subject: pneumatic rivet squeezers
    From: "Stephanie Marshall" <smarshall@enid.org>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Stephanie Marshall" <smarshall@enid.org> Can anyone explain to me why someone would want the Tandem pneumatic rivet squeezer as opposed to the regular one? My hubby and I are about to start spending $$$$$$ on our tool kit and we would really like some clarification as to the uses for one as opposed to the other....I hope that makes sense :~) Thanks Stephanie Marshall


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    Time: 10:02:06 AM PST US
    From: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
    Subject: Re: Expermental Inspections
    --> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky) Thanks, however I still don't see the reference to the 3 Tech Counselor visits. Just to the Flight Advisors. -------------- Original message -------------- > --> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" > > From the EAA insurance page... > EAA AIRCRAFT INSURANCE PLAN EXPANSIONS > > a.. Sport Pilot - Light Sport Aircraft READY > > b.. No Deductibles * > > c.. First Flight Coverage, (with successful participation in the EAA > Flight Advisor Program) * > > d.. $5,000 Coverage for personal effects of passengers > > e.. $10,000 Medical Payments Coverage > > f.. $25,000 Search and Rescue Coverage > > g.. $25,000 Emergency Flight Conditions Coverage > > h.. $50,000 Aircraft Hangar and Contents Coverage > > i.. Non-Owned Aircraft Coverage (including experimental-amateur built > aircraft) > > j.. No Family Sub-Limit Restriction > > k.. Per Passenger Coverage (no per person restrictions) > > l.. Liability Coverage after the sale of owned (insured) aircraft, (up to > a maximum of one year or the total number days the policy was enforce prior > to the sale) > > * Some exceptions may apply. > > To obtain a quote, contact a representative of the EAA Aircraft Insurance > Plan at Falcon Insurance Agency by calling (toll free) 1-866-647-4322 > > http://www.eaa.org/benefits/aircraft_insurance.html > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sam Buchanan" > To: > Subject: Re: RV-List: Expermental Inspections > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan > > > > cgalley wrote: > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" > > > > > > Poor wording on my part. You can get first flight insurance by having 3 > TC > > > inspections and using the EAA Flight Advisor program. Having coverage > does > > > improve your insurance but not necessarily the rates. > > > > > > Is that option still available, and if so, which companies? > > > > Sam Buchanan (need the answer since I get asked this by new builders) > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, however I still don't see the reference to the 3 Tech Counselor visits. Just to the Flight Advisors. -------------- Original message -------------- -- RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" <CGALLEY@QCBC.ORG> From the EAA insurance page... EAA AIRCRAFT INSURANCE PLAN EXPANSIONS a.. Sport Pilot - Light Sport Aircraft READY b.. No Deductibles * c.. First Flight Coverage, (with successful participation in the EAA Flight Advisor Program) * d.. $5,000 Coverage for personal effects of passengers e.. $10,000 Medical Payments Coverage f.. $25,000 Search and Rescue Coverage g.. $25,000 Emergency Flight Conditions Coverage h.. $50,000 Aircraft Hangar and Contents Coverage i.. Non-Owned Aircraft Coverage (including experimental-amateur built aircraft) j.. No Family Sub-Limit Restriction k.. Per Passenger Coverage (no per person restrictions) l.. Liability Coverage after the sale of owned (insured) aircraft, (up to a maximum of one year or the total number days the policy was enforce prior to the sale) * Some exceptions may apply. To obtain a quote, contact a representative of the EAA Aircraft Insurance Plan at Falcon Insurance Agency by calling (toll free) 1-866-647-4322 http://www.eaa.org/benefits/aircraft_insurance.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Buchanan" <SBUC@HIWAAY.NET> To: <RV-LIST@MATRONICS.COM> Subject: Re: RV-List: Expermental Inspections -- RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <SBUC@HIWAAY.NET> cgalley wrote: -- RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" <CGALLEY@QCBC.ORG> Poor wording on my part. You can get first flight insurance by having 3 TC inspections and using the EAA Flight Advisor program. Having coverage does improve your insurance but not necessarily the rates. Is that option still available, and if so, which companies? Sam Buchanan (need the answer since I get asked this by new builders) ion


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    Time: 10:22:22 AM PST US
    From: Rick Galati <rick6a@yahoo.com>
    Subject: re: pneumatic rivet squeezers
    --> RV-List message posted by: Rick Galati <rick6a@yahoo.com> Stephanie, I'll comment with the following observation. In my experience, a pneumatic squeezer equipped with a double piston (tandem?) generates considerably more force than the single piston type and is capable of squeezing 3/16" rivets. For squeezing AD3 and AD4 rivets, a single piston pneumatic squeezer is perfectly adequate. Rick Galati Can anyone explain to me why someone would want the Tandem pneumatic rivet squeezer as opposed to the regular one? My hubby and I are about to start spending $$$$$$ on our tool kit and we would really like some clarification as to the uses for one as opposed to the other....I hope that makes sense :~) Thanks Stephanie Marshall


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    Time: 10:45:29 AM PST US
    From: Bob <panamared3@brier.net>
    Subject: Re: Titanium Tie downs (Randy Simpson)
    clamav-milter version 0.80j on opie.wvnet.edu --> RV-List message posted by: Bob <panamared3@brier.net> I don't have his number, but I ordered and paid for mine last March and have not received them. I think he is out of business, no response to my latest inquiry. Bob RV6 NightFighter >Does any one on the list know how I can reach >Randy Simpson Phone number..Ordered tie downs >month ago and not able to get in touch with him!! > > Thanks > John McMahon (RV6 Painting) >


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    Time: 10:47:45 AM PST US
    From: Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com>
    Subject: Re: How many clecos needed for wings?
    --> RV-List message posted by: Larry Bowen <Larry@BowenAero.com> I have 600 3/32 clecos. I built the RV-8 wings simultaniously, clecoing every third hole. RV-9 requirements may be different. -- Larry Bowen, RV-8, 68 hrs. Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com Quoting Bob Collins <bcollins@visi.com>: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" <bcollins@visi.com> > > I was pretty anal when building the wings. I had the skins, leading edge and > fuel tank going at the same time. When I was building the emp, I ordered a > few clecoes everytime I made a tool order. I ended up with 1 1/2 milk jugs > of clecos and at some point, I think I had every hole in the entire wing > structure with a cleco in it. I just felt better about alignment and stuff > having everything clecoed. But I felt better as I removed a cleco, > drilled...removed another cleco. > > As I was building the fuel tanik, there was no way I was going to put > clecoes only in every other hole as I ProSealed, although I realize you > could get away with it. And at the end of each tank, I didn't bother > cleaning them. I just tossed 'em. into another bucket and they became "the > ProSeal clecos." > > Obviously, YMMV > > Bob > St. Paul > > (do not archive) > >


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    Time: 10:58:54 AM PST US
    From: "Tony Marshall" <tony@lambros.com>
    Subject: Titanium Tie downs (Randy Simpson)
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Tony Marshall" <tony@lambros.com> I found a Randy Simpson, adjacent to an airport in Ontario, OR. I called and left a message this morning. Dont know if this is the same guy....we'll see. I am interested in his tie downs, too. Randy Simpson 2405 Sunset Dr Ontario, OR 97914-4146 541-889-5619 Tony Marshall RV6 Polson, Mt ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Mcmahon" <rv6@earthlink.net> Subject: RV-List: Titanium Tie downs (Randy Simpson) > --> RV-List message posted by: "John Mcmahon" <rv6@earthlink.net> > > Does any one on the list know how I can reach > Randy Simpson Phone number..Ordered tie downs > month ago and not able to get in touch with him!! > > Thanks > John McMahon (RV6 Painting) > Do no archive > > >


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    Time: 11:02:23 AM PST US
    From: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com> version 0.80j on opie.wvnet.edu
    Subject: Re: Titanium Tie downs (Randy Simpson) clamav-milter
    version 0.80j on opie.wvnet.edu --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com> version 0.80j on opie.wvnet.edu This is the E-mail I used about 9 months ago. airtime@proaxis.com At 01:38 PM 2/18/2005 -0600, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Bob <panamared3@brier.net> > >I don't have his number, but I ordered and paid for mine last March and >have not received them. I think he is out of business, no response to my >latest inquiry. > >Bob >RV6 NightFighter > > > >Does any one on the list know how I can reach > >Randy Simpson Phone number..Ordered tie downs > >month ago and not able to get in touch with him!! > > > > Thanks > > John McMahon (RV6 Painting) > > > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190


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    Time: 11:49:19 AM PST US
    From: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-List hartzell CS props
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com> Three: my RV-8, Van's "Delbert", and Jerry VanGrunsven's RV-8A. The data was normalized as best Van's could. Randy Lervold > Can anyone tell me how many different aircraft were used to obtain this > data. The article states that more than one aircraft was used. > > I would guess from reading the article that at least 4 different aircraft > were used. > > Regards, > Jim Ayers > > In a message dated 02/18/2005 12:02:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, > rv-list-digest@matronics.com writes: > > ** The RVator, 1st issue, 2004, pg 5, test of 8 prop's at 8,500', full > throt, 2500 > rpm. > > Hartzell C2YR (2 metal blade) = 208.9 > Whirlwind 200RV (2 comp blade) = 206.9 > Whirlwind 200C (2 comp blade) = 205.6 > Hartzell C2YK (2 metal blade) = 205.4 > Aerocomposite ((2 comp blade) = 204.6 > Whrilwind 150 (3 comp blade) = 201.9 > MT 12B (3 wood / comp blade) = 200.7 > Sensenich 72FM (fixed 2blade) = 207.9 (1) > >


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    Time: 01:12:03 PM PST US
    From: "Crosley, Rich" <RCROSLEY@HRTEXTRON.TEXTRON.COM>
    Subject: Re: polished propeller
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Crosley, Rich" <RCROSLEY@HRTEXTRON.TEXTRON.COM> I've polished two props, a C/S on a Christen Eagle and fixed pitch on a C-170. Painted the back flat black. Both looked great. you will have to polish them every couple of weeks, but you just use some "Mother's" metal polish and it looks super. To start just use finer and finer wet sand paper and a vibrating sander, the kind that takes a quarter sheet of sandpaper with lots of water. Then put a soft cloth on the sander and metal polish and it doesn't take to long. Rich Crosley RV8 N948RC with a Catto composite prop this time.


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    Time: 02:26:54 PM PST US
    From: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-List Re: Hartzell CS props
    --> RV-List message posted by: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com> >--> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com > Hi All, I apologize for that. I do not sell on the list. I do post the occasional advertisement >about RV related new events. This seems like a good time to not answer the question >directly. (Jim, you seem surprised there are questions. You are a MT dealer and assume you know the scoop. To extol the virtues of the MT brand of prop, on a public forum, which is fine, you should expect different opinions and views. I never said anything-negative about MT propeller. I think they are fine. One issue to me is service availability. I was told MT repair stations in the US have to send props back to Germany for (major/minor) repair sometimes(?). Not that it is a big deal, but it is something to consider, not a reflection of the quality of the prop. As far as performance and subjective impressions such as feel, read builders sites like http://www.rv-8.com/Prop.htm and http://www.lazy8.net/proptest.htm or the ref at the bottom of this post.) > >MT Propeller has never had a blade separation from one of their propellers. > >Can Hartzell say the same? (Jim the facts, what are you referring to? I think you are implying something? "Can Hartzell say the same?" I don't know, so I called Hartzell and asked. They have had no in-flight failures of C2YK's or blade separations due to design or manufacture deficiency. None. Hartzell had past AD's on this model, but all new C2YK's have no AD's against them. The past hub AD was the result of small radius cracks found during overhaul of hubs used for Aerobatics and Agricultural applications, on the 540 Lycoming. Hartzell offered replacement hubs. New hubs have had no AD's for some time now. Keep in mind, the basic model number has been in service for over 40 years. History and experience do count.) Further......... (There have been cases of poor maintenance and operation way out of the envelope that resulted in blade failures. Like the guy who hit trees on approach. He took off again (after hack-sawing the tips off) and kept flying for another week (day?) with deep gouges in the leading edge. Yep, the blade tip was spit off finally. What would a MT wood/composite blade do to a tree or visa a versa? Even though it finally failed, it took some serious abuse and kept on going (for awhile). Amazing. Aluminum is a wonderful material. Let me repeat, there has never been any unexplained in-flight failures of this Hartzell hub and it's blades due to design deficiency. 40+ years, large numbers in service, un-tolled flight hours and abuse, with a very good history, tells me it is a good design. Perfect? No. What is. Does MT have this kind of history? Do they have 40 year old blades on high horsepower engines in severe service in the field? No. Is that bad? No, but to throw out a question implyi ng some structural deficiency of the Hartzell is not real fair. At no time was strength of the MT an issue with me. Repair-ability yes. Strength, No. However since you brought it up, I know of several "composite" props that have spit their leading edge erosion strips off. For the record none were MT's. Never the less when you bond (fancy engineering term for glue ) you can dis-bond. There are difference in a homogeneous structure (aluminum) and bonded "semi-isotropic" material, which is beyond this discussion. Leave it at they both can be very safe reliable structures but have very different properties. One more thing....... (Other Hartzell models had failures due to design issues. In the 40's, Hartzell used steel hubs and blade clamps. Some 40-50 years after the original design, an Aero Commander spit a blade-off, which resulted in an AD, released in the 80's or the 90's. Those props are still in service 60+ years later with "new" steel blade clamps, but now have continuing re-accruing inspection requirements. That was the technology of the 40's. THIS 60-YEAR-OLD DESIGN IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DESIGN THAN THE ALUMINUM HUBS FOR THE RV. The big problem is they are very old, and they have been sitting outside for 40+ years, not properly maintained. Still they are very safe and have had no recent failures since, as far as I know.) > >BTW, I just recently found out that Eric Greindl will be out of the >office at MT Propeller until 28 February, and there is no answering machine >on his phone. > >Regards, >Jim Ayers >My father-in-law was very astute about people. One day he gave me the >following advice. "Never argue with a true believer." :-) Jim, I seconded that! I'll give you a big Ol Amen! and a Hala-lua Brother. If you mean I believe in the facts and asking question, you are correct. A exchange opinions should not be a argument. From my past experience and research, the Hartzell prop is the best choice, for me. For someone who likes the "look and feel" of a composite blade prop, more power to ya. I take it you are a true believer of the MT brand, and I say, Yea verily, go forth and prosper. I think it is worthy to debate to pros and cons and provide facts to support opinions. Opinions alone are great and could say all kind of nice things about MT props, but I'll leave that to you Jim. Fly safe. Peace out George > > >--> RV-List message posted by: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com> > > > >The original post was about selling a MT prop, model MTV15, for use > >on a parallel valve 180hp (I)O-360 Lycoming. The MTV15 is essentially > >MT's version of a 2 bladed metal prop, equivalent to a Hartzell C2YK . > >The question was if the MTV15 was tested with HC pistons, electronic > >ignition and FADEC, like Hartzell has done. > > > > > > > RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com> > > > Another restriction of the BF prop is max RPM after take off, 2600. So you speed > > > freaks won't like that. > >--> RV-List message posted by: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com> > > >Scott: > > >You are right, the limitation is reducing to 2600rpm, after take-off. You are also right that > > >for *racing this might not be the best for competition, but the difference in speed between > > >2600 and 2700 is small, about 1-1.5 mph. > > > > > >Since the Hartzell Blended Airfoil at ** 2500rpm is 2 mph to 8 mph faster than the MT, > > >Whirlwind and Aerocomposite, this is not a big factor. > > > ** The RVator, 1st issue, 2004, pg 5, test of 8 prop's at 8,500', full throt, 2500 rpm. Hartzell C2YR (2 metal blade) = 208.9 Whirlwind 200RV (2 comp blade) = 206.9 Whirlwind 200C (2 comp blade) = 205.6 Hartzell C2YK (2 metal blade) = 205.4 Aerocomposite ((2 comp blade) = 204.6 Whrilwind 150 (3 comp blade) = 201.9 MT 12B (3 wood / comp blade) = 200.7 Sensenich 72FM (fixed 2blade) = 207.9 (1)


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    Time: 03:07:43 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Suffoletto" <rsuffoletto@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Assignment of reserved N number
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Suffoletto" <rsuffoletto@hotmail.com> I don't know if I am just dense or what... Maybe I've been smelling to much MEK... I have read all the instructions on the FAA web site and in the documents sent me by the FSDO and it is still not clear to me how your request a PREVIOUSLY reserved N number be assigned. It explains how to reserve an N number but not what to do when you are ready to have it assigned. Do you just write it in on the registration form or do you have to send a separate letter telling them a N number has been reserved and you want it assigned... Thanks Richard


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    Time: 03:36:20 PM PST US
    From: "Ivan McLaws" <toejam@cybertrails.com>
    Subject: Landoll prop balancer
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Ivan McLaws" <toejam@cybertrails.com> Hey everyone, Have six hours on my 6A. About the only thing I'm not crazy about is the IO-360 on final. I have a Sterba prop and not enough flywheel effect. I was wondering if anyone out there might have a Landoll Prop Balancer that they want to sell. Also I have the 21/4 inch cylindrical style prop extension with the constant speed cowl. Does the prop balancer require any modification of the cowl? I'd appreciate any input. Thanks, Ivan McLaws


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    Time: 03:47:03 PM PST US
    From: Bill Cary <cary@Fusion.gat.com>
    Subject: Re: Assignment of reserved N number
    --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Cary <cary@Fusion.gat.com> Richard Suffoletto wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Suffoletto" <rsuffoletto@hotmail.com> > >I don't know if I am just dense or what... Maybe I've been smelling to much >MEK... I have read all the instructions on the FAA web site and in the >documents sent me by the FSDO and it is still not clear to me how your >request a PREVIOUSLY reserved N number be assigned. > Richard, Go to http://162.58.35.241/e.gov/nr/n-renid.asp This will take you the N # renewal site. All you need is the N# and name under which it was reserved. It will lead you through the rest. Bill RV9A - Wings N930RV res. Ramona CA


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    Time: 05:17:53 PM PST US
    From: Vanremog@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Titanium Tie downs (Randy Simpson)
    --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com In a message dated 2/18/2005 11:01:00 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, tony@lambros.com writes: > Does any one on the list know how I can reach > Randy Simpson Phone number..Ordered tie downs > month ago and not able to get in touch with him!! > > Thanks > John McMahon (RV6 Painting) ====================== John- He is listed in the Yeller Pages under his company name Airtime Mfg and his first and last names. GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 736hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)


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    Time: 06:02:56 PM PST US
    From: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Landoll prop balancer
    --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com> I added on to my RV-4 and I just had to trim some of the flange on the opening where the crankshaft extension goes through. Just very minor trimming. Ivan McLaws <toejam@cybertrails.com> wrote:--> RV-List message posted by: "Ivan McLaws" Hey everyone, Have six hours on my 6A. About the only thing I'm not crazy about is the IO-360 on final. I have a Sterba prop and not enough flywheel effect. I was wondering if anyone out there might have a Landoll Prop Balancer that they want to sell. Also I have the 21/4 inch cylindrical style prop extension with the constant speed cowl. Does the prop balancer require any modification of the cowl? I'd appreciate any input. Thanks, Ivan McLaws -- Scott VanArtsdalen RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!! When a man does all he can though it succeeds not well, blame not him that did it." -- George Washington


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    Time: 06:11:13 PM PST US
    From: <flynlow@usaviator.net>
    Subject: oil filter
    --> RV-List message posted by: <flynlow@usaviator.net> Hello all; I am going to use an IO-360-A1A in an RV8. The engine was formerly in an Acrosport II. When in the Acrosport it had an inverted oil system. Here is a link to some pictures which explain this better than I can here: http://www.usaviator.net/inverted_oil.htm For my question I am referring to fittings D and E in the second picture. This system took oil from the sump and went to the inverted system before it went to the oil pump. There is a special fitting welded to the sump where the oil goes from the inverted system back to the pump, then of course through the engine. Currently I have these two fittings (D and E) looped together. What I am wondering is; If instead of looping them together can I run one line (from E) to a remote oil filter and another line from the said remote filter back to (D) the pump. Normally oil going through a filter is under pressure, this oil would be under a vacuum since it would be located before the pump. Would this be a problem? Does anyone know? Would you care to make any suggestions regarding this set up or alternatives to me? What about using the oil cooler lines and putting a filter in line there? Your kind attention to this is greatly appreciated. With kindest personal regards, to all, I shall remain, Sincerely, Bud Silvers


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    Time: 06:57:05 PM PST US
    From: Mark Grieve <mark@macomb.com>
    Subject: Re: pneumatic rivet squeezers
    --> RV-List message posted by: Mark Grieve <mark@macomb.com> Stephanie, Go with the single cylinder. It will squash the -3 and -4 rivets without any trouble. I have used both C and alligator styles and would go with C. Once you get it set for the length you are squeezing you can really go to town. Be careful though, when dimpling you can create a nice, dimpled hole where you don't want one. Look for a used one and save some $. The Yard has a pneumatic cleco tool for just $24. http://www.yardstore.com/index.cfm?action=ViewDetails&ItemID=313&Category=88 A luxury perhaps but so is the squeezer. This tool works well and really speeds up removing and installing clecos. You won't have as firm of handshake but that's a small price. They also have a squeezer for under $300. Mark Do not archive Stephanie Marshall wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Stephanie Marshall" <smarshall@enid.org> > > >Can anyone explain to me why someone would want the Tandem pneumatic rivet squeezer as opposed to the regular one? My hubby and I are about to start spending $$$$$$ on our tool kit and we would really like some clarification as to the uses for one as opposed to the other....I hope that makes sense :~) > >Thanks >Stephanie Marshall > > > >


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    Time: 07:54:55 PM PST US
    From: "Keith Hedrick OD" <khedrick@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Titanium Tie downs (Randy Simpson)
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Keith Hedrick OD" <khedrick@frontiernet.net> If you are looking for titanium tie downs etc. I would recommend Rob Rollison's company http://www.airplanegear.com/ . I ordered the Lowrance 2000 from him and a set of headphones. the 2000 was as advertised (at a low price) and the headphones (lightspeed) were fine but I couldnot wear them due to not enough clearance from canopy. he took them back and credited my card, no problem. i have no financial ties to Rob, just a satisfied customer. think i will try that new head set without the top bar. anyone have those yet? Like them, ?? dont like them. kt do not archive ============= ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Marshall" <tony@lambros.com> Subject: RV-List: Titanium Tie downs (Randy Simpson) > --> RV-List message posted by: "Tony Marshall" <tony@lambros.com> > > I found a Randy Simpson, adjacent to an airport in Ontario, OR. I > called and left a message > this morning. Dont know if this is the same guy....we'll see. I am > interested in his tie downs, too. > > Randy Simpson > 2405 Sunset Dr > Ontario, OR 97914-4146 > 541-889-5619 > > Tony Marshall > RV6 > Polson, Mt > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Mcmahon" <rv6@earthlink.net> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RV-List: Titanium Tie downs (Randy Simpson) > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "John Mcmahon" <rv6@earthlink.net> > > > > Does any one on the list know how I can reach > > Randy Simpson Phone number..Ordered tie downs > > month ago and not able to get in touch with him!! > > > > Thanks > > John McMahon (RV6 Painting) > > Do no archive > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:05:29 PM PST US
    From: "Ross S" <rv7maker@hotmail.com>
    Subject: oil filter
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Ross S" <rv7maker@hotmail.com> Hi Bud, It is bad news to put a filter on the suction side of any pump, as it can cause it to cavitate, and there goes your oil pressure. Also, you won't have filtration when you are inverted with that setup. -Ross RV-7 www.experimentalair.com >From: <flynlow@usaviator.net> >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: "Rv-List@Matronics. Com" <rv-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RV-List: oil filter >Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 19:08:16 -0700 > >--> RV-List message posted by: <flynlow@usaviator.net> > >Hello all; > >I am going to use an IO-360-A1A in an RV8. The engine was formerly in an >Acrosport II. When in the Acrosport it had an inverted oil system. Here is >a >link to some pictures which explain this better than I can here: >http://www.usaviator.net/inverted_oil.htm For my question I am referring to >fittings D and E in the second picture. This system took oil from the sump >and went to the inverted system before it went to the oil pump. There is a >special fitting welded to the sump where the oil goes from the inverted >system back to the pump, then of course through the engine. Currently I >have >these two fittings (D and E) looped together. What I am wondering is; If >instead of looping them together can I run one line (from E) to a remote >oil >filter and another line from the said remote filter back to (D) the pump. >Normally oil going through a filter is under pressure, this oil would be >under a vacuum since it would be located before the pump. Would this be a >problem? Does anyone know? Would you care to make any suggestions regarding >this set up or alternatives to me? What about using the oil cooler lines >and >putting a filter in line there? > >Your kind attention to this is greatly appreciated. > >With kindest personal regards, to all, I shall remain, > >Sincerely, > >Bud Silvers > >




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