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1. 04:08 AM - Re: new goodies from Trio Avionics (SportAV8R@aol.com)
2. 05:04 AM - Panel lighting (Charles Heathco)
3. 05:27 AM - Spongy brake rv-4 (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
4. 05:48 AM - Re: Spongy brake rv-4 (linn walters)
5. 05:59 AM - Besr enginr/prop (hosein shafiei)
6. 06:06 AM - Re: Spongy brake rv-4 (Denis Walsh)
7. 06:25 AM - Re: Besr enginr/prop (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
8. 06:42 AM - Re: Spongy brake RV-4 (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
9. 06:47 AM - Re: Besr enginr/prop (Kevin Horton)
10. 07:11 AM - Re: Re: Spongy brake RV-4 (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
11. 07:12 AM - Re: Spongy brake rv-4 (Pat Hatch)
12. 07:22 AM - Re: Spongy brake rv-4 (Vincent Osburn)
13. 07:23 AM - RV-7 or -7A builder... (Bill VonDane)
14. 08:18 AM - Re: Lightspeed ign. with aft battery (Arnold de Brie)
15. 08:24 AM - Re: Major or Minor Modification for electronic ignitions? (Dan Checkoway)
16. 08:36 AM - Preview Plans... (Bill VonDane)
17. 10:20 AM - Re: eMachineShop (Gould, Richard AE1 NAVTESTWINGPAC 561000E)
18. 12:45 PM - Re: Besr enginr/prop (George Neal E Capt AU/CCP)
19. 01:00 PM - Re: Besr enginr/prop (JOHN STARN)
20. 01:09 PM - Re: Besr enginr/prop ()
21. 01:30 PM - magnetometer in an RV-8? (Glen Matejcek)
22. 01:46 PM - Items 4 Sale (RobHickman@aol.com)
23. 02:51 PM - Re: Major or Minor Modification for electronic ignitions? (Bob J)
24. 03:21 PM - Re: Major or Minor Modification for electronic ignitions? (Charlie England)
25. 03:21 PM - Re: Major or Minor Modification for electronic ignitions? (Charlie England)
26. 03:25 PM - RV-8 Empennage - HS-405 edge distance (alan@reichertech.com)
27. 04:03 PM - Insurance issues (Charles Heathco)
28. 06:32 PM - Prop Governor, Hartzell CS Prop (Tony Marshall)
29. 06:59 PM - Re: Prop Governor, Hartzell CS Prop (John Furey)
30. 07:08 PM - Re: Garmin 196 problem (Bryan Jones)
31. 07:21 PM - Re: RV-8 Empennage - HS-405 edge distance (Scott Farner)
32. 07:24 PM - Re: Garmin 196 problem (David Burton)
33. 07:34 PM - Re: Major or Minor Modification for electronic ignitions? (Mike Robertson)
34. 07:56 PM - video camera (Dan Checkoway)
35. 08:17 PM - Re: video camera (Sam Buchanan)
36. 08:34 PM - Re: RV-8 Empennage - HS-405 edge distance (Brett Morawski)
37. 08:46 PM - Re: Major or Minor Modification for electronic ignitions? (Bill VonDane)
38. 08:59 PM - Re: Prop Governor, Hartzell CS Prop (Stan Jones)
39. 09:11 PM - Re: video camera (Dan Checkoway)
40. 10:49 PM - Prop replacement, question for Das Fed, was: Major or Minor Modification (Jeff Point)
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| Subject: | new goodies from Trio Avionics |
--> RV-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com
I'd love to get a few of these and the associated driver hdwe (RISC controller??)
to make custom annunciators for my next panel... no need to re-engrave when
you wanted to add new alarm functions, etc. Cool.
-Stormy
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Heathco" <cheathco@comcast.net>
Muy 6a has a couple small red LED spotlights mounted on the canopy about 2 inches
behind rear travel of the latch, controled by a dimmer on side of Fusl. I
want to put on a canopy shade which will require removal of the lights. I am cosidering
mounting those strip lights I recently read about in an av mag, and
wondered if anyone had used that setup, or what lightting setup some folks are
using?? charlie heathco
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| Subject: | Spongy brake rv-4 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Gents,
This past Saturday, an RV-4 that had been down for a couple of years on
an engine change(Subie to lyco) launched off with a new Bart engine.
One of the squawks was a very spongy right brake. Nearly full deflection
to get her to grab.
We bled again from the bottom up. No Change. All the lines are clear
plastic and there is no air & no leaks.
The system sat empty (I know bad idea) for the 2 years.
I was thinking maybe a rebuild kit for the master cylinder? New set of
seals? Is there any type of check valve in there that could be stuck?
Take it apart and poke around?
Thanks for your thoughts.
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Spongy brake rv-4 |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta) wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
>
>Gents,
>
>This past Saturday, an RV-4 that had been down for a couple of years on
>an engine change(Subie to lyco) launched off with a new Bart engine.
>
>
>One of the squawks was a very spongy right brake. Nearly full deflection
>to get her to grab.
>
>We bled again from the bottom up. No Change. All the lines are clear
>plastic and there is no air & no leaks.
>
>The system sat empty (I know bad idea) for the 2 years.
>
>
>I was thinking maybe a rebuild kit for the master cylinder?
>
I doubt it. Master cylinder problems typically result in 'brake fade'
where the pressure releases slowly with the pedal pushed. If it brakes,
I wouldn't suspect the master.
> New set of seals?
>
Again, I doubt it. Seals keep the fluid in the cylinder .... so check
for a leak at the master cylinder first.
> Is there any type of check valve in there that could be stuck?
>
Probably not since you did get some braking.
>Take it apart and poke around?
>
Mike, my gut feeling is that the Master is OK. They're pretty bullet proof.
>Thanks for your thoughts.
>
Well, my thought is that there's air in the system. That's the biggest
cause of spongy brake. I know, you looked. However ......
I have the brake bleeder that uses a small yard sprayer that I can pump
up and let 'er flow. Best thing (for brakes) sincesliced bread (bad for
brakes). I've had problems before where I couldn't get enough flow to
push an air bubble over the top of a loop in the tubing. Tubing wasn't
clear and that took me a long time to figure out.
Best of luck,
Linn
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>
>Mike
>
>Do not archive.
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Besr enginr/prop |
--> RV-List message posted by: hosein shafiei <shafiei8000@yahoo.ca>
Dear listers,
What is the best engine/prop for RV-7?
Regards,http://profiles.yahoo.com/shafiei6000
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| Subject: | Re: Spongy brake rv-4 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Denis Walsh <denis.walsh@comcast.net>
Agree. especially since older RV-4s had "upside down" masters. Should
be some tips in the archives for those old cylinder mountings.
On Mar 7, 2005, at 6:50 AM, linn walters wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
>
> Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta) wrote:
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
>> <mstewart@iss.net>
>>
>> Gents,
>>
>> This past Saturday, an RV-4 that had been down for a couple of years
>> on
>> an engine change(Subie to lyco) launched off with a new Bart engine.
>>
>>
>> One of the squawks was a very spongy right brake. Nearly full
>> deflection
>> to get her to grab.
>>
>> We bled again from the bottom up. No Change. All the lines are clear
>> plastic and there is no air & no leaks.
>>
>> The system sat empty (I know bad idea) for the 2 years.
>>
>>
>> I was thinking maybe a rebuild kit for the master cylinder?
>>
> I doubt it. Master cylinder problems typically result in 'brake fade'
> where the pressure releases slowly with the pedal pushed. If it
> brakes,
> I wouldn't suspect the master.
>
>> New set of seals?
>>
> Again, I doubt it. Seals keep the fluid in the cylinder .... so check
> for a leak at the master cylinder first.
>
>> Is there any type of check valve in there that could be stuck?
>>
> Probably not since you did get some braking.
>
>> Take it apart and poke around?
>>
> Mike, my gut feeling is that the Master is OK. They're pretty bullet
> proof.
>
>> Thanks for your thoughts.
>>
> Well, my thought is that there's air in the system. That's the biggest
> cause of spongy brake. I know, you looked. However ......
>
> I have the brake bleeder that uses a small yard sprayer that I can pump
> up and let 'er flow. Best thing (for brakes) sincesliced bread (bad
> for
> brakes). I've had problems before where I couldn't get enough flow to
> push an air bubble over the top of a loop in the tubing. Tubing wasn't
> clear and that took me a long time to figure out.
> Best of luck,
> Linn
> do not archive
>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Do not archive.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
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> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>
>
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| Subject: | Besr enginr/prop |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Oh my.....
Mike
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of hosein shafiei
Subject: RV-List: Besr enginr/prop
--> RV-List message posted by: hosein shafiei <shafiei8000@yahoo.ca>
Dear listers,
What is the best engine/prop for RV-7?
Regards,http://profiles.yahoo.com/shafiei6000
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| Subject: | Re: Spongy brake RV-4 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
Michael;
I would bet that there is air in your brake system. If the master
cylinders can be turned upside down while bleeding,then you might get it out.
I made a plug for the resevoir with a small ( 1/8" or so ) hose through it
so I could flow a bunch of fluid through there , as suggested by another. I
also bled the system from the top with the plug/hose. I still had to loosen
a tubing nut to get small bubbles out above the brake cylinders.
Even a small bubble in such a small system will cause spongy brake pedal.
Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
Charleston,Arkansas
Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
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| Subject: | Re: Besr enginr/prop |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
>--> RV-List message posted by: hosein shafiei <shafiei8000@yahoo.ca>
>
>What is the best engine/prop for RV-7?
We don't know what you consider important, so we can't answer that.
If we all had the same priorities we would all by flying Cessna 172s.
Rank the following in order of importance and get back to us:
low cost
low weight
excellent take-off and climb performance
excellent cruise performance
ability to get good cruise speed with low rpm
ability to fly in rain without having to reduce rpm
no need to frequently retorque the prop bolts
ability to run autogas
ability to achieve high power at high altitude
availability of support from Vans
amount of good service history available
desire to experiment with new technology
ability to use standard kit parts without any mods
low build time
little amount of rework required after you start flying
which do you prefer - flying or building?
--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
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| Subject: | Re: Spongy brake RV-4 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
The reservoir is one of those small alum self contained units, screwed
directly into the master cyl, on the top of the master cyl.. Is it
really possible to fill from caliper, come through the master cylinder,
up to the res and still have air in the master cyl?
No leaks, no air. I can see the whole line start to finish.
Great input guys, Im still not convinced its could be air.
Mike
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Oldsfolks@aol.com
Subject: RV-List: Re: Spongy brake RV-4
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
Michael;
I would bet that there is air in your brake system. If the master
cylinders can be turned upside down while bleeding,then you might get
it out.
I made a plug for the resevoir with a small ( 1/8" or so ) hose through
it
so I could flow a bunch of fluid through there , as suggested by
another. I
also bled the system from the top with the plug/hose. I still had to
loosen
a tubing nut to get small bubbles out above the brake cylinders.
Even a small bubble in such a small system will cause spongy brake
pedal.
Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
Charleston,Arkansas
Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
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| Subject: | Spongy brake rv-4 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Pat Hatch" <pat_hatch@msn.com>
Mike,
First thing I would check is to see if it one of the old installations with
the masters mounted upside down. If this is the case, the only way you are
going to be able to bleed it is to remove and turn right side up, bleed,
reinstall. If it's not the old style, probably going to need an O-ring kit,
not a big deal.
Pat
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stewart, Michael
(ISS Atlanta)
Subject: RV-List: Spongy brake rv-4
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
<mstewart@iss.net>
Gents,
This past Saturday, an RV-4 that had been down for a couple of years on
an engine change(Subie to lyco) launched off with a new Bart engine.
One of the squawks was a very spongy right brake. Nearly full deflection
to get her to grab.
We bled again from the bottom up. No Change. All the lines are clear
plastic and there is no air & no leaks.
The system sat empty (I know bad idea) for the 2 years.
I was thinking maybe a rebuild kit for the master cylinder? New set of
seals? Is there any type of check valve in there that could be stuck?
Take it apart and poke around?
Thanks for your thoughts.
Mike
Do not archive.
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| Subject: | Spongy brake rv-4 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Vincent Osburn" <flyby41@earthlink.net>
Sounds like air in the system. I made an air powered bleeder from PVC
tube. Used 2 inch tube with screw on cap on top end and glue on cap at the
bottom. Tapped an air hose barb fitting in at the top through the thicker
part of the PVC and another at the bottom through the thicker part with
hose barb for running a clear vinyl hose to the 1/8 pipe thread on the top
of the brake fluid resivoir fill hole. Fill your PVC tube with fluid then
screw on the lid and when you apply about 20 psi just loosen your bleed
fitting at the wheel cylinder. You can bleed the brakes by yourself
perfectly and get a rock hard pedal. I have done it twice on my RV and used
it on other planes as well and it hasen't all blown up in my face yet. I
will send a picture of mine if you e-mail off line.
flyby41@earthlink.net
> [Original Message]
> From: Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta) <mstewart@iss.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 3/7/2005 5:25:02 AM
> Subject: RV-List: Spongy brake rv-4
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
<mstewart@iss.net>
>
> Gents,
>
> This past Saturday, an RV-4 that had been down for a couple of years on
> an engine change(Subie to lyco) launched off with a new Bart engine.
>
>
> One of the squawks was a very spongy right brake. Nearly full deflection
> to get her to grab.
>
> We bled again from the bottom up. No Change. All the lines are clear
> plastic and there is no air & no leaks.
>
> The system sat empty (I know bad idea) for the 2 years.
>
>
> I was thinking maybe a rebuild kit for the master cylinder? New set of
> seals? Is there any type of check valve in there that could be stuck?
>
> Take it apart and poke around?
>
> Thanks for your thoughts.
>
> Mike
>
> Do not archive.
>
>
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| Subject: | RV-7 or -7A builder... |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
Any -7 builders out there on IM? Please drop me a note...
yahoo: bvondane
aol: billvondane
Thanks!
-Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Lightspeed ign. with aft battery |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Arnold de Brie" <arnold@paperchip.com>
Hello
I made the direct connection to the battery by lengthening the wire.
This ensures maximum voltage to the ignition while starting
One disadvantage.
I left the ignition key on once ( main switch off )
The small current to the Lightspeed drains the battery completely.
Arnold
Netherlands
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| Subject: | Re: Major or Minor Modification for electronic ignitions? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Don't know about anybody else's operating limitations, but mine (March 2004)
reference FAR 21.93, which attempts to distinguish minor from major in the
context of alterations.
Here's the latest FAA-hosted version of Part 21.93:
http://checkoway.com/url/?s=8c86c2a8
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Major or Minor Modification for electronic ignitions?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
>
> It depends on what you Operating Limitations state for a major change.
> Changing to the electronic ignition from Slick Mags is definitely a major
> change. If you have the early limitations you will have to contact your
> local FSDO prior to making the change. A DAR cannot do this one. If you
> have newer limitations that allow you to do the major change yourself,
then
> you make a log entry stating what you've done, place the aircraft back
into
> Phase one for a mimimum of five hours, and go fly the test flights until
> either five hours is up and you are satisfied it is safe, or you must keep
> flying after the five hours until you are satisfied with the performance.
> After you are done with the test flight you make another log entry placing
> the aircraft back into phase two. If you have the newest limitations you
> must contact the FSDO for concurrence on the test flight area. They can
do
> that via telephone and FAX. You are not getting permission to make the
> change, just getting concurrence on the test flight area.
>
> Any mor equestions give me a shout.
>
> Mike R.
>
> >From: Vanremog@aol.com
> >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: RV-List: Major or Minor Modification for electronic
ignitions?
> >Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 02:44:17 EST
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
> >
> >To Mike Robertson-
> >
> >Mike-
> >
> >When changing out the ignition system (OEM Slick magnetos) to electronic
> >(two new P-mags), must I or how do I approach the FAA or my DAR (Dave
> >Morss)?
> >
> >Is this considered a major modification to my RV-6A and do I have to
take
> >it
> >back into testing mode? I expect to get the P-mag installation
completed
> >next week but want to ensure that all is properly done paperwork wise
and
> >legal.
> >
> >Thanks in advance.
> >
> >
> >GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 736hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Preview Plans... |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
Has anyone scanned in their -8 preview plans?
Thanks...
-Bill
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| Subject: | RE: eMachineShop |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Gould, Richard AE1 NAVTESTWINGPAC 561000E" <richard.j.gould@navy.mil>
> I need to set the record straight on eMachineShop. I posted that the part I designed
> was going to cost $1,720.00.That is wrong. That was the price for 100! I
> didn't notice that the default quantity on the order form was 100. The actual
> price for 1 part was about $155.00 and for 10 about $320.00 plus about $7 for
> packing and shipping. The time estimate was about 29 days or 37 days if you
> wanted it anodized. The extra charge for anodizing was about $40 weather you
ordered
> 1 or 10 parts. I have never drawn anthing on CAD before and had the part
> drawn and a price and time estimate in under an hour. I think that is remarkable.
> I think price is very reasonable and although I had a few listers volunteer
> their services (Thanks!) I may try this company out of curiosity. I'll let
> you know how it goes.
>
> Neil McLeod
Let me know how that works out. I have a device I invented/designed (non-aviation
related) that I have been toying around with and contemplating building a prototype.
When I submitted the design for a price check, I think it had come out
to about $300+ per part (3 parts), but now, I'm not sure what I had selected
for quantity. If it was for a hundred then my project suddenly becomes a little
more tangible with relation to disposable income. I'll have to recheck it!
I have been pretty impressed with the program. I have used a bunch of free and
low-cost CAD programs and it is by far the best that I have used--and easiest!
Its 3D modeling capabilities, is one thing I find valuable. I did screen captures
to get .JPG images of the different parts. First time I was actually able
to view a 3D image of my design, that wasn't in my head.
I can see how this program/website could be very handy for some aircraft parts
that require higher-level metal work (CNC, special alloys, etc).
Rick Gould
RV-4 Oak Harbor, WA
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| Subject: | Besr enginr/prop |
--> RV-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt AU/CCP <Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL>
I found an R-4360 that I'd like to mount on my RV-7...
Mike, this could turn the S8 project into Mega8 (it'll need taller landing
gear) :)
Neal
Oh my.....
Mike
Do not archive.
hosein shafiei <shafiei8000@yahoo.ca>
Dear listers,
What is the best engine/prop for RV-7?
Regards,http://profiles.yahoo.com/shafiei6000
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| Subject: | Re: Besr enginr/prop |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
And a very heavy tail hook..... 8*) KABONG
> --> RV-List message posted by: George Neal E Capt AU/CCP
> <Neal.George@MAXWELL.AF.MIL>
>
> I found an R-4360 that I'd like to mount on my RV-7...
> Mike, this could turn the S8 project into Mega8 (it'll need taller landing
> gear) :)
> Neal
>
> Oh my.....
> Mike
> Do not archive.
>
> hosein shafiei <shafiei8000@yahoo.ca>
> Dear listers,
> What is the best engine/prop for RV-7?
> Regards,http://profiles.yahoo.com/shafiei6000
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| Subject: | Re: Besr enginr/prop |
--> RV-List message posted by: <sears@searnet.com>
> I found an R-4360 that I'd like to mount on my RV-7...
> Mike, this could turn the S8 project into Mega8 (it'll need taller landing
> gear) :)
> Neal
Come on, guys. The fellow didn't know he was asking a question that's been
asked many times before. I've already directed him to the archives.
There's no way we can answer this one any more than we can for primers, etc.
It's a decision he has to make on his own.
Jim Sears in KY
do not archive
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| Subject: | magnetometer in an RV-8? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Glen Matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
Hi Bill, Charlie, Kevin, et al-
Sorry for the delay in responding, but work and the digest format can put
me out of synch with you guys.
As I understand the situation, everyone's concerns about the potential for
interference with the function of the magnetometers is technically valid,
but operationally insignificant. I'm not flying yet, so I can't make a
direct observation. I do accept the premise though. I also guarantee
you'll all hear about it if this doesn't work out acceptably.
On an entirely different note, those of you with better resources than me
might be interested to know of about a dozen green and brown camouflaged
F-86's in Honduras. They are crammed on the edge of a ramp, and three or
four were without canopies, so I presume they are no longer in the active
inventory. One of you enterprising folk could perhaps swing a bulk deal,
remembering of course that I would be willing to accept one as a finder's
fee...
Glen Matejcek
aerobubba@earthlink.net
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--> RV-List message posted by: RobHickman@aol.com
I have the following for sale,
1. Lightspeed Thirty 3g noise cancellation headset (like new) New $595
$475
2. Lightspeed Thirty 3g noise cancellation headset (like new) New $595
$475
3. EI Dual Fuel Gauge FL-2R (Never used) New $380
$300
The heads really do work great, they are quitter than the Bose on takeoff.
The Bose are lighter and smaller. I am selling the first pair because I got
a set of the Bose headsets in trade.
And the second set because;
The Bose booth at Oshkosh had free pop and after spending 8 days listening
to their sales pitch my kids have decided that they also need a pair.
Rob Hickman
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Major or Minor Modification for electronic ignitions? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com>
Interesting.
1. Is it possible to have individual Operating Limitations
changed/reissued by the local FSDO so that I don't have to receive
approval for changes prior actually making them?
2. On a different tangent, but want to ask while I am thinking about
paperwork: I have been keeping airframe and powerplant logs in an
Excel spreadsheet. Is this acceptable? I suppose I could transcribe
them into the logbook if necessary. I keep external paper documents
in a binder, and make a reference to them in the spreadsheet; for
example, my prop balance entry has the verbage for having a propeller
balanced, see spectrum analysis plot dated blah blah blah in the
powerplant binder. I figure when I go to sell the airplane I could
print the logs out and sign each entry...
Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying 600+ hours F1 under const.
On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 17:55:25 -0800, Mike Robertson
<mrobert569@hotmail.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
>
> It depends on what you Operating Limitations state for a major change.
> Changing to the electronic ignition from Slick Mags is definitely a major
> change. If you have the early limitations you will have to contact your
> local FSDO prior to making the change. A DAR cannot do this one. If you
> have newer limitations that allow you to do the major change yourself, then
> you make a log entry stating what you've done, place the aircraft back into
> Phase one for a mimimum of five hours, and go fly the test flights until
> either five hours is up and you are satisfied it is safe, or you must keep
> flying after the five hours until you are satisfied with the performance.
> After you are done with the test flight you make another log entry placing
> the aircraft back into phase two. If you have the newest limitations you
> must contact the FSDO for concurrence on the test flight area. They can do
> that via telephone and FAX. You are not getting permission to make the
> change, just getting concurrence on the test flight area.
>
> Any mor equestions give me a shout.
>
> Mike R.
>
> >From: Vanremog@aol.com
> >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: RV-List: Major or Minor Modification for electronic ignitions?
> >Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 02:44:17 EST
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
> >
> >To Mike Robertson-
> >
> >Mike-
> >
> >When changing out the ignition system (OEM Slick magnetos) to electronic
> >(two new P-mags), must I or how do I approach the FAA or my DAR (Dave
> >Morss)?
> >
> >Is this considered a major modification to my RV-6A and do I have to take
> >it
> >back into testing mode? I expect to get the P-mag installation completed
> >next week but want to ensure that all is properly done paperwork wise and
> >legal.
> >
> >Thanks in advance.
> >
> >
> >GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 736hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
> >
> >
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Major or Minor Modification for electronic ignitions? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
I've had 'old' op lims replaced with updated ones twice (2 different
RV-4's). It was a relatively painless procedure; the worst time was the
2nd time when I had to actually schedule my visit to the FSDO due to the
imminent danger of terrorism here in central Mississippi. (I'm sure that
requirement didn't come from the local FAA guys.)
I called, they sent the new forms to be filled out & told me what to fax
over, they prepared the new paperwork & I dropped by (after scheduling
the visit, of course) to trade old for new.
The 1st new set, pre--9-11, set the flight test area & only required 2
logbook entries (& the 5 hrs flight test, of course) for major mods. The
2nd set, post--9-11, requires you to notify the FSDO of the intent to
retest & they fax you confirmation of your test area. (as Mike described
below) Then it's the 2 logbook entries.
Your mileage (& FSDO) may vary. :-) There are things that the local
guys might not be up to speed on when it comes to homebuilts if
homebuilding isn't really active in your area. The 1st time I updated op
lims, our guys had to make a phone call or 2 to get up to speed. Most of
them aren't EAA members & don't deal with homebuilts that much.
Can't help you on the Excel log issue.
Charlie
Bob J wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com>
>
>Interesting.
>
>1. Is it possible to have individual Operating Limitations
>changed/reissued by the local FSDO so that I don't have to receive
>approval for changes prior actually making them?
>
>2. On a different tangent, but want to ask while I am thinking about
>paperwork: I have been keeping airframe and powerplant logs in an
>Excel spreadsheet. Is this acceptable? I suppose I could transcribe
>them into the logbook if necessary. I keep external paper documents
>in a binder, and make a reference to them in the spreadsheet; for
>example, my prop balance entry has the verbage for having a propeller
>balanced, see spectrum analysis plot dated blah blah blah in the
>powerplant binder. I figure when I go to sell the airplane I could
>print the logs out and sign each entry...
>
>Regards,
>Bob Japundza
>RV-6 flying 600+ hours F1 under const.
>
>
>On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 17:55:25 -0800, Mike Robertson
><mrobert569@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
>>
>>It depends on what you Operating Limitations state for a major change.
>>Changing to the electronic ignition from Slick Mags is definitely a major
>>change. If you have the early limitations you will have to contact your
>>local FSDO prior to making the change. A DAR cannot do this one. If you
>>have newer limitations that allow you to do the major change yourself, then
>>you make a log entry stating what you've done, place the aircraft back into
>>Phase one for a mimimum of five hours, and go fly the test flights until
>>either five hours is up and you are satisfied it is safe, or you must keep
>>flying after the five hours until you are satisfied with the performance.
>>After you are done with the test flight you make another log entry placing
>>the aircraft back into phase two. If you have the newest limitations you
>>must contact the FSDO for concurrence on the test flight area. They can do
>>that via telephone and FAX. You are not getting permission to make the
>>change, just getting concurrence on the test flight area.
>>
>>Any mor equestions give me a shout.
>>
>>Mike R.
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: Vanremog@aol.com
>>>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>>>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>>>Subject: Re: RV-List: Major or Minor Modification for electronic ignitions?
>>>Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 02:44:17 EST
>>>
>>>--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
>>>
>>>To Mike Robertson-
>>>
>>>Mike-
>>>
>>>When changing out the ignition system (OEM Slick magnetos) to electronic
>>>(two new P-mags), must I or how do I approach the FAA or my DAR (Dave
>>>Morss)?
>>>
>>>Is this considered a major modification to my RV-6A and do I have to take
>>>it
>>>back into testing mode? I expect to get the P-mag installation completed
>>>next week but want to ensure that all is properly done paperwork wise and
>>>legal.
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>
>>>GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 736hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Major or Minor Modification for electronic ignitions? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
I've had 'old' op lims replaced with updated ones twice (2 different
RV-4's). It was a relatively painless procedure; the worst time was the
2nd time when I had to actually schedule my visit to the FSDO due to the
imminent danger of terrorism here in central Mississippi. (I'm sure that
requirement didn't come from the local FAA guys.)
I called, they sent the new forms to be filled out & told me what to fax
over, they prepared the new paperwork & I dropped by (after scheduling
the visit, of course) to trade old for new.
The 1st new set, pre--9-11, set the flight test area & only required 2
logbook entries (& the 5 hrs flight test, of course) for major mods. The
2nd set, post--9-11, requires you to notify the FSDO of the intent to
retest & they fax you confirmation of your test area. (as Mike described
below) Then it's the 2 logbook entries.
Your mileage (& FSDO) may vary. :-) There are things that the local
guys might not be up to speed on when it comes to homebuilts if
homebuilding isn't really active in your area. The 1st time I updated op
lims, our guys had to make a phone call or 2 to get up to speed. Most of
them aren't EAA members & don't deal with homebuilts that much.
Charlie
Bob J wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com>
>
>Interesting.
>
>1. Is it possible to have individual Operating Limitations
>changed/reissued by the local FSDO so that I don't have to receive
>approval for changes prior actually making them?
>
>2. On a different tangent, but want to ask while I am thinking about
>paperwork: I have been keeping airframe and powerplant logs in an
>Excel spreadsheet. Is this acceptable? I suppose I could transcribe
>them into the logbook if necessary. I keep external paper documents
>in a binder, and make a reference to them in the spreadsheet; for
>example, my prop balance entry has the verbage for having a propeller
>balanced, see spectrum analysis plot dated blah blah blah in the
>powerplant binder. I figure when I go to sell the airplane I could
>print the logs out and sign each entry...
>
>Regards,
>Bob Japundza
>RV-6 flying 600+ hours F1 under const.
>
>
>On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 17:55:25 -0800, Mike Robertson
><mrobert569@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
>>
>>It depends on what you Operating Limitations state for a major change.
>>Changing to the electronic ignition from Slick Mags is definitely a major
>>change. If you have the early limitations you will have to contact your
>>local FSDO prior to making the change. A DAR cannot do this one. If you
>>have newer limitations that allow you to do the major change yourself, then
>>you make a log entry stating what you've done, place the aircraft back into
>>Phase one for a mimimum of five hours, and go fly the test flights until
>>either five hours is up and you are satisfied it is safe, or you must keep
>>flying after the five hours until you are satisfied with the performance.
>>After you are done with the test flight you make another log entry placing
>>the aircraft back into phase two. If you have the newest limitations you
>>must contact the FSDO for concurrence on the test flight area. They can do
>>that via telephone and FAX. You are not getting permission to make the
>>change, just getting concurrence on the test flight area.
>>
>>Any mor equestions give me a shout.
>>
>>Mike R.
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: Vanremog@aol.com
>>>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>>>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>>>Subject: Re: RV-List: Major or Minor Modification for electronic ignitions?
>>>Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 02:44:17 EST
>>>
>>>--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
>>>
>>>To Mike Robertson-
>>>
>>>Mike-
>>>
>>>When changing out the ignition system (OEM Slick magnetos) to electronic
>>>(two new P-mags), must I or how do I approach the FAA or my DAR (Dave
>>>Morss)?
>>>
>>>Is this considered a major modification to my RV-6A and do I have to take
>>>it
>>>back into testing mode? I expect to get the P-mag installation completed
>>>next week but want to ensure that all is properly done paperwork wise and
>>>legal.
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>
>>>GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 736hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | RV-8 Empennage - HS-405 edge distance |
--> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com
All,
I'm working on the RV-8 empennage. Reference drawing 3, you can see where
the HS-702, HS-405, and HS-801PP all overlap.
After drilling the skin to the skeleton and then disassembling, I notice
that the hole that goes through those three items does not meet minimum
edge distance on the HS-405 towards the front edge of the flange (both top
and bottom). This hole is the one that is in the seamed area of the
HS-405.
The holes in HS-702 are down the centerline of the flange, so I'm not sure
where the alignment problem is.
If I were to rebend the front and rear flanges of HS-405 slightly to shift
the web of HS-405 forward, then I start getting into the edge distance on
the top and bottom flanges at the rear end instead of the front.
Any thoughts on what's going on here? Has anyone else seen this, and if
so, how did you correct it?
--
Alan Reichert
RV-8 N927AR (reserved)
Building Horizontal/Vertical Stabilizers
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| Subject: | Insurance issues |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Heathco" <cheathco@comcast.net>
I thought it might be useful to post my findings re insurance on our RV"s (and
other experimentals) No mater who you agency is, you will most likly be carried
by AIG.
I found out today that other than the max 4 listed and aproved pilots, your ins
does not cover any claim if anyone else, including onother RV pilot with same
type insurance is flying the plane WITH, or without your permission. That also
includes you also being in the rt seat. I post this as it is news to me and
couple other RV drivers. charles heathco
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| Subject: | Prop Governor, Hartzell CS Prop |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tony Marshall" <tony@lambros.com>
The flatter pitch (high rpm) setting on my governor results in the actuating arm
on the governor moving to too acute an angle versus the cable end....if this
makes sense. I actually need a few more rpms, but further stop adjustment makes
the angle so acute that the cable binds a bit. What I would like to do is
to remove the actuating arm and turn it ten degree or so, reinstalling the arm,
then readjust the cable. It looks as if the governor shaft is splined and
that removal of the actuating arm should be rather simple. This is an "on plane"
adjustment and the work area tight. Any surprises awaiting me in there?
Is it as simple as just removing loosening the arm retaining bolt, turning the
arm the desired amount then reinstalling the bolt?....then readjusting the cable?
This forum is a great resource....your experience will be appreciated.
tony marshall
rv6
polson, mt
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| Subject: | Prop Governor, Hartzell CS Prop |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" <john@fureychrysler.com>
Not sure which gov you have but most would have you loosen the 6 small
screws and rotate the center housing then retighten. I had to do this on my
Hartzel prop/MT gov. Thats why they recommend setting it all up off the
plane first(which I did not do) so I lost a little blood over it. I have the
manual so if you need more info let me know.
John furey
RV6A O-320
330-324-2041
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin 196 problem |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bryan Jones" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
>Alternatively why not simply remove the batteries.
The point of the issue is that when one is flying in less desirable wx (like
IMC!) and the electrical system fails, the GPS would keep working for some
period of time without having to remove the GPS from the panel or mount,
install batteries, reinstall, power back up *and* still fly the plane in bad
wx.
In the event of a power loss, my Dynon will continue to give me attitude
information and, if this issue can be resolved, the GPS will (hopefully) get
me to a runway.
Bryan
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| Subject: | Re: RV-8 Empennage - HS-405 edge distance |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Farner <sfarner@gmail.com>
Alan,
I am not sure if it is the same, but I had the same problem on my -7
HS. I had about a 1x diameter edge spacing. My HS-702 also was
centered on the skin holes in this situation too. You might want to
check the rear-to-front spar spacing as shown in the plan view of DWG
3 to see how far, if at all that is off and move the front spar
accordingly.
Sorry I couldn't be more help but just wanted to let you know that
you're not alone.
--
Scott
Wings Arrive Tomorrow!
www.scottfarner.com
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 18:25:01 -0500 (EST), alan@reichertech.com
<alan@reichertech.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com
>
> All,
>
> I'm working on the RV-8 empennage. Reference drawing 3, you can see where
> the HS-702, HS-405, and HS-801PP all overlap.
>
> After drilling the skin to the skeleton and then disassembling, I notice
> that the hole that goes through those three items does not meet minimum
> edge distance on the HS-405 towards the front edge of the flange (both top
> and bottom). This hole is the one that is in the seamed area of the
> HS-405.
>
> The holes in HS-702 are down the centerline of the flange, so I'm not sure
> where the alignment problem is.
>
> If I were to rebend the front and rear flanges of HS-405 slightly to shift
> the web of HS-405 forward, then I start getting into the edge distance on
> the top and bottom flanges at the rear end instead of the front.
>
> Any thoughts on what's going on here? Has anyone else seen this, and if
> so, how did you correct it?
>
> --
> Alan Reichert
> RV-8 N927AR (reserved)
> Building Horizontal/Vertical Stabilizers
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin 196 problem |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Burton" <dburton@nwlink.com>
My 195 has a battery icon displayed on the screen when you are running on
batteries. As soon as ship's power comes online the icon goes out. Does
your 196 have the same icon? That could help you troubleshoot if it does.
The voltage display page could also help...
Good luck!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Bertsch" <noms1reqd@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV-List: Garmin 196 problem
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Bertsch <noms1reqd@yahoo.com>
>
> Both Bryan Jones and I have a the same problem with our Garmin 196:
>
> we have the GPS connected to onboard power, but the batteries keep going
dead after a short period of time, even though we are not using them on
battery power. I have also found a pilot on the Beechlist who has the same
problem.
>
> Is there anyone else on the RV-list experiencing this?
>
> Jeff Bertsch
> lonestarsquadron.com
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Major or Minor Modification for electronic ignitions? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
The answer to both of your questions is yes. You can get updated Operating
lImitations from your local FSDO. Fill out a new FAA Form 8130-6
(downloadable), and take it with your existing Airworthiness Certificate and
Operating Lmitations, and your Airframe logbook. They will issue you new
ones.
The regs don't say where or how you have to keep your logs, just that you
must have them. I think I would recommend printing out any new entries at
each annual condition inspection. That way if you do lose your harddrive
you won't lose everything. But, yes, it is legal.
Mike R.
>From: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Major or Minor Modification for electronic ignitions?
>Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 17:49:36 -0500
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com>
>
>Interesting.
>
>1. Is it possible to have individual Operating Limitations
>changed/reissued by the local FSDO so that I don't have to receive
>approval for changes prior actually making them?
>
>2. On a different tangent, but want to ask while I am thinking about
>paperwork: I have been keeping airframe and powerplant logs in an
>Excel spreadsheet. Is this acceptable? I suppose I could transcribe
>them into the logbook if necessary. I keep external paper documents
>in a binder, and make a reference to them in the spreadsheet; for
>example, my prop balance entry has the verbage for having a propeller
>balanced, see spectrum analysis plot dated blah blah blah in the
>powerplant binder. I figure when I go to sell the airplane I could
>print the logs out and sign each entry...
>
>Regards,
>Bob Japundza
>RV-6 flying 600+ hours F1 under const.
>
>
>On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 17:55:25 -0800, Mike Robertson
><mrobert569@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
> >
> > It depends on what you Operating Limitations state for a major change.
> > Changing to the electronic ignition from Slick Mags is definitely a
>major
> > change. If you have the early limitations you will have to contact your
> > local FSDO prior to making the change. A DAR cannot do this one. If
>you
> > have newer limitations that allow you to do the major change yourself,
>then
> > you make a log entry stating what you've done, place the aircraft back
>into
> > Phase one for a mimimum of five hours, and go fly the test flights until
> > either five hours is up and you are satisfied it is safe, or you must
>keep
> > flying after the five hours until you are satisfied with the
>performance.
> > After you are done with the test flight you make another log entry
>placing
> > the aircraft back into phase two. If you have the newest limitations
>you
> > must contact the FSDO for concurrence on the test flight area. They can
>do
> > that via telephone and FAX. You are not getting permission to make the
> > change, just getting concurrence on the test flight area.
> >
> > Any mor equestions give me a shout.
> >
> > Mike R.
> >
> > >From: Vanremog@aol.com
> > >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
> > >To: rv-list@matronics.com
> > >Subject: Re: RV-List: Major or Minor Modification for electronic
>ignitions?
> > >Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 02:44:17 EST
> > >
> > >--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
> > >
> > >To Mike Robertson-
> > >
> > >Mike-
> > >
> > >When changing out the ignition system (OEM Slick magnetos) to
>electronic
> > >(two new P-mags), must I or how do I approach the FAA or my DAR (Dave
> > >Morss)?
> > >
> > >Is this considered a major modification to my RV-6A and do I have to
>take
> > >it
> > >back into testing mode? I expect to get the P-mag installation
>completed
> > >next week but want to ensure that all is properly done paperwork wise
>and
> > >legal.
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > >
> > >GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 736hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
I've gotten a LOT of email asking about my video setup -- what type of
camera I use, how it's mounted, what frame rate, etc. Here's what little
info I have: http://www.rvproject.com/videos.html
It's not a fancy setup at all. Poor man's video...but I'm happy with it!
;-)
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
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| Subject: | Re: video camera |
--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Dan Checkoway wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> I've gotten a LOT of email asking about my video setup -- what type of
> camera I use, how it's mounted, what frame rate, etc. Here's what little
> info I have: http://www.rvproject.com/videos.html
>
> It's not a fancy setup at all. Poor man's video...but I'm happy with it!
> ;-)
Dan, the videos look great; it is amazing what can be done with the
little digital cameras and desktop editing.
One enhancement you might consider is an auxiliary wide-angle lens. This
would include more of the plane and *really* make the viewer feel like
they are riding with you. The lens screws onto the camera lens via the
filter threads. It will also take care of any focus problems since the
huge depth of field of the extreme wide-angle will have everything in focus.
Here is a link to a clip I made in the StalkerV6 kit car using a Canon
ZR40 with a 0.43x auxiliary lens:
http://sambuchanan.com/stalker.wmv
Sam Buchanan
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| Subject: | RV-8 Empennage - HS-405 edge distance |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brett Morawski" <brett.morawski@buckeye-express.com>
Alan,
I had the same problem on my -8 emp but can't remember if it was in the
exact same position. I reviewed everything and there seemed to be no way to
correct it and I couldn't find anything I'd done wrong.
After some thought I left the holes how they were and moved on. There are
no single "critical" rivets that I've seen yet. If only a few rivets out of
several thousand are less than perfect then I'm not worried.
Brett Morawski
8a wings
Toledo, OH
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
alan@reichertech.com
Subject: RV-List: RV-8 Empennage - HS-405 edge distance
--> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com
All,
I'm working on the RV-8 empennage. Reference drawing 3, you can see where
the HS-702, HS-405, and HS-801PP all overlap.
After drilling the skin to the skeleton and then disassembling, I notice
that the hole that goes through those three items does not meet minimum
edge distance on the HS-405 towards the front edge of the flange (both top
and bottom). This hole is the one that is in the seamed area of the
HS-405.
The holes in HS-702 are down the centerline of the flange, so I'm not sure
where the alignment problem is.
If I were to rebend the front and rear flanges of HS-405 slightly to shift
the web of HS-405 forward, then I start getting into the edge distance on
the top and bottom flanges at the rear end instead of the front.
Any thoughts on what's going on here? Has anyone else seen this, and if
so, how did you correct it?
--
Alan Reichert
RV-8 N927AR (reserved)
Building Horizontal/Vertical Stabilizers
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| Subject: | Re: Major or Minor Modification for electronic ignitions? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
I haven't been reading all of the messages on this subject, but I do
remember reading something on the Ellison site about making log book entries
for modification that was very interesting... I suggest everyone read it...
The first thing your insurance company is going to do if you have an
accident or incident is try to find a reason not to pay...
http://www.ellison-fluid-systems.com/homebuilt_court_decision.htm
-Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Major or Minor Modification for electronic ignitions?
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
The answer to both of your questions is yes. You can get updated Operating
lImitations from your local FSDO. Fill out a new FAA Form 8130-6
(downloadable), and take it with your existing Airworthiness Certificate and
Operating Lmitations, and your Airframe logbook. They will issue you new
ones.
The regs don't say where or how you have to keep your logs, just that you
must have them. I think I would recommend printing out any new entries at
each annual condition inspection. That way if you do lose your harddrive
you won't lose everything. But, yes, it is legal.
Mike R.
>From: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Major or Minor Modification for electronic ignitions?
>Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 17:49:36 -0500
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Bob J <rocketbob@gmail.com>
>
>Interesting.
>
>1. Is it possible to have individual Operating Limitations
>changed/reissued by the local FSDO so that I don't have to receive
>approval for changes prior actually making them?
>
>2. On a different tangent, but want to ask while I am thinking about
>paperwork: I have been keeping airframe and powerplant logs in an
>Excel spreadsheet. Is this acceptable? I suppose I could transcribe
>them into the logbook if necessary. I keep external paper documents
>in a binder, and make a reference to them in the spreadsheet; for
>example, my prop balance entry has the verbage for having a propeller
>balanced, see spectrum analysis plot dated blah blah blah in the
>powerplant binder. I figure when I go to sell the airplane I could
>print the logs out and sign each entry...
>
>Regards,
>Bob Japundza
>RV-6 flying 600+ hours F1 under const.
>
>
>On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 17:55:25 -0800, Mike Robertson
><mrobert569@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
> >
> > It depends on what you Operating Limitations state for a major change.
> > Changing to the electronic ignition from Slick Mags is definitely a
>major
> > change. If you have the early limitations you will have to contact your
> > local FSDO prior to making the change. A DAR cannot do this one. If
>you
> > have newer limitations that allow you to do the major change yourself,
>then
> > you make a log entry stating what you've done, place the aircraft back
>into
> > Phase one for a mimimum of five hours, and go fly the test flights until
> > either five hours is up and you are satisfied it is safe, or you must
>keep
> > flying after the five hours until you are satisfied with the
>performance.
> > After you are done with the test flight you make another log entry
>placing
> > the aircraft back into phase two. If you have the newest limitations
>you
> > must contact the FSDO for concurrence on the test flight area. They can
>do
> > that via telephone and FAX. You are not getting permission to make the
> > change, just getting concurrence on the test flight area.
> >
> > Any mor equestions give me a shout.
> >
> > Mike R.
> >
> > >From: Vanremog@aol.com
> > >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
> > >To: rv-list@matronics.com
> > >Subject: Re: RV-List: Major or Minor Modification for electronic
>ignitions?
> > >Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 02:44:17 EST
> > >
> > >--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
> > >
> > >To Mike Robertson-
> > >
> > >Mike-
> > >
> > >When changing out the ignition system (OEM Slick magnetos) to
>electronic
> > >(two new P-mags), must I or how do I approach the FAA or my DAR (Dave
> > >Morss)?
> > >
> > >Is this considered a major modification to my RV-6A and do I have to
>take
> > >it
> > >back into testing mode? I expect to get the P-mag installation
>completed
> > >next week but want to ensure that all is properly done paperwork wise
>and
> > >legal.
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > >
> > >GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 736hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Governor, Hartzell CS Prop |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stan Jones" <stan.jones@xtra.co.nz>
Tony,
On my MT governor the inside face of the actuating arm is saw toothed, and
mates up with the bush on the shaft.
It is just a matter of removing the arm, adjust the angle, and reattach,
making sure the saw tooths are allined
Stan
-------Original Message-------
From: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV-List: Prop Governor, Hartzell CS Prop
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tony Marshall" <tony@lambros.com>
The flatter pitch (high rpm) setting on my governor results in the actuating
arm on the governor moving to too acute an angle versus the cable end....if
this makes sense. I actually need a few more rpms, but further stop
adjustment makes the angle so acute that the cable binds a bit. What I would
like to do is to remove the actuating arm and turn it ten degree or so,
reinstalling the arm, then readjust the cable. It looks as if the governor
shaft is splined and that removal of the actuating arm should be rather
simple. This is an "on plane" adjustment and the work area tight. Any
surprises awaiting me in there? Is it as simple as just removing loosening
the arm retaining bolt, turning the arm the desired amount then reinstalling
the bolt?....then readjusting the cable?
This forum is a great resource....your experience will be appreciated.
tony marshall
rv6
polson, mt
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| Subject: | Re: video camera |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Sam,
I'm all over that. I've been wanting to have a wider angle view since day
one, but I hadn't thought I could add lenses to this camera -- it's pretty
low-end. But I looked and there sure are threads! Will see what I can
find.
If anybody knows a cheap source for a decent wide angle lens that will fit a
JVC GR-DVL805 camera, I'm all ears!
do not archive
)_( Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Buchanan" <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: video camera
> --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
>
> Dan Checkoway wrote:
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> >
> > I've gotten a LOT of email asking about my video setup -- what type of
> > camera I use, how it's mounted, what frame rate, etc. Here's what
little
> > info I have: http://www.rvproject.com/videos.html
> >
> > It's not a fancy setup at all. Poor man's video...but I'm happy with
it!
> > ;-)
>
>
> Dan, the videos look great; it is amazing what can be done with the
> little digital cameras and desktop editing.
>
> One enhancement you might consider is an auxiliary wide-angle lens. This
> would include more of the plane and *really* make the viewer feel like
> they are riding with you. The lens screws onto the camera lens via the
> filter threads. It will also take care of any focus problems since the
> huge depth of field of the extreme wide-angle will have everything in
focus.
>
> Here is a link to a clip I made in the StalkerV6 kit car using a Canon
> ZR40 with a 0.43x auxiliary lens:
>
> http://sambuchanan.com/stalker.wmv
>
> Sam Buchanan
>
>
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| Subject: | Prop replacement, question for Das Fed, was: Major or Minor Modification |
for electronic ignitions?
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
On the subject of major mods and operating limitations:
I have the older operating limitations (requiring FSDO blessing for any
"major change.") I am replacing my wood Sterba experimental prop with a
wood core, fiberglass covered Catto experimental prop. Weight is about
the same, and both are fixed pitch, experimental props. According to a
local FAA inspector (who deals with a lot of homebuilts and whose
opinion is widely respected around these parts) this does not constitute
a "major change" and no new certificate is required, nor is any phase 1
time.
This strikes me as a bit odd. What do you think, Mike, or anybody else
who knows?
Jeff Point
RV-6
Milwaukee WI
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