RV-List Digest Archive

Tue 03/08/05


Total Messages Posted: 30



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:12 AM - Re: RV-8 Empennage - HS-405 edge distance (alan@reichertech.com)
     2. 04:22 AM - Spinner air dam??  (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
     3. 04:38 AM - Re: video camera (Alex Peterson)
     4. 04:38 AM - Re: video camera (cgalley)
     5. 04:41 AM - Re: Spinner air dam?? (Kevin Horton)
     6. 04:50 AM - Re: Prop replacement, question for Das Fed, was: Major or Minor Modification for electronic ignitions? (cgalley)
     7. 05:16 AM - Re: video camera (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
     8. 07:04 AM - Re: video camera (Sam Buchanan)
     9. 07:17 AM - Re: Prop replacement, question for Das Fed, was: (Matt Jurotich)
    10. 07:20 AM - Alodine Powder Supplier? (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    11. 08:03 AM - Whiskers on Main Spar Rivets?... (Matt Johnson)
    12. 08:10 AM - Re: Alodine Powder Supplier? (Paul Trotter)
    13. 08:39 AM - Prop replacement, question for Das Fed ()
    14. 08:48 AM - Re: Whiskers on Main Spar Rivets?... (William Couvillon)
    15. 08:50 AM - Oil Coolers on Ebay (Jeff Point)
    16. 09:00 AM - Re: Whiskers on Main Spar Rivets?... (not processed: message from valid local sender) (dsvs@comcast.net)
    17. 09:03 AM - Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay (Bill VonDane)
    18. 09:05 AM - Re: Prop replacement, question for Das Fed (Jeff Point)
    19. 09:20 AM - Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay (Bill Dube)
    20. 09:22 AM - Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay (Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club)
    21. 09:34 AM - Re: Whiskers on Main Spar Rivets?... (not processed: message from valid local sender) (Michael D Crowe)
    22. 10:27 AM - Re: video camera (Chris W)
    23. 10:43 AM - Re: video camera (Bill VonDane)
    24. 01:39 PM - Re: Spinner air dam??  (Jim Jewell)
    25. 01:39 PM - Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay (Matthew Brandes)
    26. 02:28 PM - Re: Alodine Powder Supplier? (Jim Jewell)
    27. 02:42 PM - Re: Whiskers on Main Spar Rivets? (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
    28. 03:23 PM - Re: video camera (Scott Vanartsdalen)
    29. 04:10 PM - Re: video camera (Chris W)
    30. 05:19 PM - Re: Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay (Jeff Point)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:12:56 AM PST US
    Subject: RV-8 Empennage - HS-405 edge distance
    From: alan@reichertech.com
    <20050308044712.XNOL2476.lakermmtao12.cox.net@DJTM4T61> --> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com I see some replies on this item this morning, thanks. I also decided to call Van's last night after I realized they are 3 hours behind me. Talked with Ken on this. He knew exactly what I was talking about, and said it was not an issue. My edge distance is 1 diameter. He said this is caused by the seam "joggle" that is in that flange near the front to get the flange to fit inside HS-702. The idea at that point is to attach the skin to the spar. Catching part of the flange with less than normal distance is fine for that rivet. So, with that emergency aside, I'll move on! I'll finish off the right side HS tonight, then I get to prep/prime/assemble the HS and VS. - Alan (I guess now would be a good time to order the wing kit...) > --> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com > > > All, > > I'm working on the RV-8 empennage. Reference drawing 3, you can see where > the HS-702, HS-405, and HS-801PP all overlap. > > After drilling the skin to the skeleton and then disassembling, I notice that the hole that goes through those three items does not meet minimum edge distance on the HS-405 towards the front edge of the flange (both top > and bottom). This hole is the one that is in the seamed area of the HS-405. > > The holes in HS-702 are down the centerline of the flange, so I'm not sure > where the alignment problem is. > > If I were to rebend the front and rear flanges of HS-405 slightly to shift > the web of HS-405 forward, then I start getting into the edge distance on > the top and bottom flanges at the rear end instead of the front. > > Any thoughts on what's going on here? Has anyone else seen this, and if so, how did you correct it?


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    Time: 04:22:32 AM PST US
    Subject: Spinner air dam??
    From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net> I have seen many spinners, all aluminum I think, with small air flow deflectors that allow for a smooth air deflection from the spinner to the prop. This is easy enough to do on a fiberglass spinner but I wonder if it is really all that helpful. More for moisture? More for strength at that location? I dunno much about props/spinners other than they are a total mystery, kinda like insurance:-) Any thoughts on that fellas? Thanks Mike Do not archive


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    Time: 04:38:22 AM PST US
    From: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
    Subject: video camera
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> > > Sam, > > I'm all over that. I've been wanting to have a wider angle > view since day one, but I hadn't thought I could add lenses > to this camera -- it's pretty low-end. But I looked and > there sure are threads! Will see what I can find. > > If anybody knows a cheap source for a decent wide angle lens > that will fit a JVC GR-DVL805 camera, I'm all ears! > > do not archive > Dan, one of the best parts of your video is that it is NOT wide angle. It puts the viewer in the cockpit. Many ship mounted cameras, probably most, are very wide angle and IMNSHO simply don't make video that looks as nice. The plane is distorted, and the world looks 4000 miles away. The mountain backdrop in your video would almost disappear with a wide angle lens. Just my opinion, Alex Peterson RV6-A 584 hours Maple Grove, MN http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/


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    Time: 04:38:34 AM PST US
    From: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
    Subject: Re: video camera
    --> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> Measure the ID in mm, then get that size lens. If you can't find a lens in that thread size, you can get setup and step down adapter rings. See a good camera shop. Cy Galley EAA Safety Programs Editor Always looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: video camera > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> > > Sam, > > I'm all over that. I've been wanting to have a wider angle view since day > one, but I hadn't thought I could add lenses to this camera -- it's pretty > low-end. But I looked and there sure are threads! Will see what I can > find. > > If anybody knows a cheap source for a decent wide angle lens that will fit > a > JVC GR-DVL805 camera, I'm all ears! > > do not archive > )_( Dan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sam Buchanan" <sbuc@hiwaay.net> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: RV-List: video camera > > >> --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net> >> >> Dan Checkoway wrote: >> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> >> > >> > I've gotten a LOT of email asking about my video setup -- what type of >> > camera I use, how it's mounted, what frame rate, etc. Here's what > little >> > info I have: http://www.rvproject.com/videos.html >> > >> > It's not a fancy setup at all. Poor man's video...but I'm happy with > it! >> > ;-) >> >> >> Dan, the videos look great; it is amazing what can be done with the >> little digital cameras and desktop editing. >> >> One enhancement you might consider is an auxiliary wide-angle lens. This >> would include more of the plane and *really* make the viewer feel like >> they are riding with you. The lens screws onto the camera lens via the >> filter threads. It will also take care of any focus problems since the >> huge depth of field of the extreme wide-angle will have everything in > focus. >> >> Here is a link to a clip I made in the StalkerV6 kit car using a Canon >> ZR40 with a 0.43x auxiliary lens: >> >> http://sambuchanan.com/stalker.wmv >> >> Sam Buchanan >> >> > > >


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    Time: 04:41:15 AM PST US
    From: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
    Subject: Re: Spinner air dam??
    --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" ><mstewart@iss.net> > >I have seen many spinners, all aluminum I think, with small air flow >deflectors that allow for a smooth air deflection from the spinner to >the prop. This is easy enough to do on a fiberglass spinner but I wonder >if it is really all that helpful. More for moisture? More for strength >at that location? I dunno much about props/spinners other than they are >a total mystery, kinda like insurance:-) > >Any thoughts on that fellas? If we are talking about the same thing, the ones I've seen look like a narrow flange on the spinner where the blade cutouts are. I have always assumed they were to add strength. The airflow is going to be so churned up in that area that I can't imagine what you could do that would improve performance. I think you are just adding weight and build time if you try to do anything there. Just my opinion. -- Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit) Ottawa, Canada http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8


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    Time: 04:50:51 AM PST US
    From: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
    Subject: Re: Prop replacement, question for Das Fed, was: Major or Minor
    Modification for electronic ignitions? --> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> This just points up the regional differences between FSDOs. Some claim it all prop changes to a different prop are major, some obviously don't. Go with want your FSDO says. Cy Galley - Chair, AirVenture Emergency Aircraft Repair A Service Project of Chapter 75 EAA Safety Programs Editor - TC EAA Sport Pilot ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Point" <jpoint@mindspring.com> Subject: RV-List: Prop replacement, question for Das Fed, was: Major or Minor Modification for electronic ignitions? > --> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com> > > On the subject of major mods and operating limitations: > > I have the older operating limitations (requiring FSDO blessing for any > "major change.") I am replacing my wood Sterba experimental prop with a > wood core, fiberglass covered Catto experimental prop. Weight is about > the same, and both are fixed pitch, experimental props. According to a > local FAA inspector (who deals with a lot of homebuilts and whose > opinion is widely respected around these parts) this does not constitute > a "major change" and no new certificate is required, nor is any phase 1 > time. > > This strikes me as a bit odd. What do you think, Mike, or anybody else > who knows? > > Jeff Point > RV-6 > Milwaukee WI > > >


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    Time: 05:16:10 AM PST US
    From: Fiveonepw@aol.com
    Subject: Re: video camera
    --> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com In a message dated 3/8/05 6:39:58 AM Central Standard Time, alexpeterson@earthlink.net writes: > >If anybody knows a cheap source for a decent wide angle lens > >that will fit a JVC GR-DVL805 camera, I'm all ears! >>> Highly suggest you go get some more video equipment/accesories and spend lots of time experimenting & filming- just be sure to post the links here! Thanks for the ride- it was awesome! Mark Phillips - do not archive


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    Time: 07:04:29 AM PST US
    From: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
    Subject: Re: video camera
    --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net> Dan Checkoway wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> > > Sam, > > I'm all over that. I've been wanting to have a wider angle view since day > one, but I hadn't thought I could add lenses to this camera -- it's pretty > low-end. But I looked and there sure are threads! Will see what I can > find. > > If anybody knows a cheap source for a decent wide angle lens that will fit a > JVC GR-DVL805 camera, I'm all ears! Here ya go, Dan; this is the lens I used: http://tinyurl.com/ouj0 Mount threads are 37mm. You will need an adapter (check at a camera store) if the camera threads are not 37mm. Or, you can probably just tape the thing to the front of your lens. Here is the wide-angle lens offered by JVC: http://tinyurl.com/63orf This lens are so inexpensive they are great for experimenting. You may not want to use it all the time but it is a good item to have in your equipment kit. By the way, my camera is a whole lot more "low-end" than yours! Looking forward to seeing the results! Sam Buchanan


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    Time: 07:17:28 AM PST US
    From: Matt Jurotich <mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov> Major or Minor Modification
    Subject: Re: Prop replacement, question for Das Fed, was:
    Major or Minor Modification --> RV-List message posted by: Matt Jurotich <mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov> Major or Minor Modification When I got my new to me RV 6A the existing operating limitations were very restrictive so I requested and got new operating limitations. I was given a generous Phase One flying area and a 5 hour re-certification for a major change. I was told that my complete panel change was minor but that putting a constant speed prop would be major and major change require a new XXXX form. Given the fly off period is only 5 hours and the area is generous, I am going to treat my panel upgrade as a major change primarily to prevent a no pay insurance situation. Matthew M. Jurotich NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center Swales contractor to the JWST ISIM Systems Engineer m/c : 443 e-mail mail to: <mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov> phone : 301-286-5919 fax : 301-286-7021 JWST URL: <http://ngst1.gsfc.nasa.gov


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    Time: 07:20:10 AM PST US
    Subject: Alodine Powder Supplier?
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@Sausen.net> All, I'm trying to find a distributor that will sell about a pound of Alodine in it's powdered form. It goes by either Alodine 1200s or Iridite 14-2. I don't see the point of paying the large amount of extra dollars, not to mention hazmat handling charges, for water. Trying to find a distributor is turning out to be much more difficult than I expected. None seem to want to deal in small quantities and none of the local paint supply houses carry it, or they have it in liquid and charge more than AS and Wicks. BTW, I'm in the DFW area. Thanks, Michael Sausen


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    Time: 08:03:52 AM PST US
    From: "Matt Johnson" <matt@n559rv.com>
    Subject: Whiskers on Main Spar Rivets?...
    (not processed: message from valid local sender) --> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Johnson" <matt@n559rv.com> I am sure it is probably nothing, but have any of you noticed a "whisker" effect in the gold anodizing on the main spar to wing ribs rivets? I noticed them when looking at a certain angle in the sunlight. I figured it was probably just the anodizing being compressed and is not a big deal. Am I correct? - Matt


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    Time: 08:10:45 AM PST US
    From: Paul Trotter <ptrotter@acm.org>
    Subject: Re: Alodine Powder Supplier?
    --> RV-List message posted by: Paul Trotter <ptrotter@acm.org> Michael, I also tried to find small quantities of powdered Alodine. The smallest I could find was 10 pounds. I was going to buy that much and try to resell small quantities myself but I found out that the powdered form is considered an oxidizer from a hazmat perspective and the shipping charges are even higher than the normal liquid form. I didn't want to deal with that so I just went on with liquid. The powder makes a lot of sense since a pound of powder make 16 gallons of Alodine. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net> <RV10@yahoogroups.com> Subject: RV-List: Alodine Powder Supplier? > --> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@Sausen.net> > > All, > > I'm trying to find a distributor that will sell about a pound of > Alodine in it's powdered form. It goes by either Alodine 1200s or > Iridite 14-2. I don't see the point of paying the large amount of extra > dollars, not to mention hazmat handling charges, for water. Trying to > find a distributor is turning out to be much more difficult than I > expected. None seem to want to deal in small quantities and none of the > local paint supply houses carry it, or they have it in liquid and charge > more than AS and Wicks. > > BTW, I'm in the DFW area. > > Thanks, > Michael Sausen > >


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    Time: 08:39:58 AM PST US
    From: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Prop replacement, question for Das Fed
    --> RV-List message posted by: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com> No disrespect to the FAA inspector, but I would think more flight-testing would be prudent. Logically and practically speaking more flight test is in order to determine new: static RPM, takeoff distance, climb rates/speeds, top speed, cruise speed/fuel burn, flight RPM, glide ratio and so on. Kind of important stuff and should be done before taking passengers at least? As far as major mod, it did not change the W&B but the prop is a structural component and safety of flight item. Yes? You as the builder can put it back into a Phase I, if you feel it is necessary for safety. On the other hand your local G-man says not needed, than that is good enough as long as you (and insurance if applicable) are OK with it. Cheers George --> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com> > >On the subject of major mods and operating limitations: > >I have the older operating limitations (requiring FSDO blessing for any >"major change.") I am replacing my wood Sterba experimental prop with a >wood core, fiberglass covered Catto experimental prop. Weight is about >the same, and both are fixed pitch, experimental props. According to a >local FAA inspector (who deals with a lot of homebuilts and whose >opinion is widely respected around these parts) this does not constitute >a "major change" and no new certificate is required, nor is any phase 1 >time. > >This strikes me as a bit odd. What do you think, Mike, or anybody else >who knows? > >Jeff Point, RV-6, Milwaukee WI


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    Time: 08:48:00 AM PST US
    From: "William Couvillon" <wcouv@hotmail.com>
    Subject: RE: Whiskers on Main Spar Rivets?...
    --> RV-List message posted by: "William Couvillon" <wcouv@hotmail.com> Matt, I have not gotten to that point yet, however, I made a BIG mental note about that happening to many other builders and it is, as you expected, just in the anodizing material...not to worry. Will #91056 www.wills-rv9a.com


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    Time: 08:50:38 AM PST US
    From: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Oil Coolers on Ebay
    --> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com> Take a look at these and see what you think. A friend found these and wants to use one on his -6. What do you think? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4533025216&category=26442&sspagename=WDVW#ebayphotohosting Jeff Point RV-6 Milwaukee WI


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    Time: 09:00:45 AM PST US
    From: dsvs@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: Whiskers on Main Spar Rivets?... (not processed: message
    from valid local sender) --> RV-List message posted by: dsvs@comcast.net I saw the same thing each time I drove a rib to spar rivet. I don't think it is any big deal. Don > --> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Johnson" <matt@n559rv.com> > > I am sure it is probably nothing, but have any of you noticed a "whisker" effect > in the gold anodizing on the main spar to wing ribs rivets? I > noticed them when looking at a certain angle in the sunlight. I figured it was > probably just the anodizing being compressed and is not a big > deal. Am I correct? > > - Matt > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:03:48 AM PST US
    From: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
    Subject: Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay
    --> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com> Aircraft Spruce sells them for experimentals... I think this is the same as my Harrison... I would buy and use one... http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/aeroclassiccooler.php -Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Point" <jpoint@mindspring.com> Subject: RV-List: Oil Coolers on Ebay --> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com> Take a look at these and see what you think. A friend found these and wants to use one on his -6. What do you think? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4533025216&category=26442&sspagename=WDVW#ebayphotohosting Jeff Point RV-6 Milwaukee WI


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    Time: 09:05:09 AM PST US
    From: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Prop replacement, question for Das Fed
    --> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com> I should clarify this. The inspector recommended (and I agree) that a test period is a good idea. My question is more about the FAA requirements. Obviously there is often a wide chasm between what is safe and prudent, and what is required. Jeff Point > >No disrespect to the FAA inspector, but I would think more flight-testing would be prudent. Logically and practically speaking more flight test is in order to determine new: static RPM, takeoff distance, climb rates/speeds, top speed, cruise speed/fuel burn, flight RPM, glide ratio and so on. Kind of important stuff and should be done before taking passengers at least? > > > >


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    Time: 09:20:00 AM PST US
    From: Bill Dube <bdube@al.noaa.gov>
    Subject: Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay
    --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@al.noaa.gov> At 10:47 AM 3/8/2005 -0600, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com> > >Take a look at these and see what you think. A friend found these and >wants to use one on his -6. What do you think? > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4533025216&category=26442&sspagename=WDVW#ebayphotohosting They certainly are nice looking. Not long ago, folks on the list were talking about oil cooler failures because of the possible high pressure pulses peculiar to the Mazda rotary oil system. Because of these failures, (and the lack of failures on stock coolers,) I would be cautious about using something other than the stock Mazda oil cooler.


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    Time: 09:22:18 AM PST US
    From: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
    Subject: Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net> Bill VonDane wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com> > >Aircraft Spruce sells them for experimentals... I think this is the same as >my Harrison... I would buy and use one... > >http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/aeroclassiccooler.php > >-Bill > > I would get one also. It seems exactly like my Harrison..... Phil


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    Time: 09:34:31 AM PST US
    From: "Michael D Crowe" <rv8a@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Whiskers on Main Spar Rivets?... (not processed: message
    from valid local sender) --> RV-List message posted by: "Michael D Crowe" <rv8a@bellsouth.net> Matt, I too saw the same thing. I took a picture of it and showed it to Vans at sun-n-fun last year. They said do not worry about it is star facture of the anodizing coating and is not a problem. Mike Crowe --> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Johnson" <matt@n559rv.com> I am sure it is probably nothing, but have any of you noticed a "whisker" effect in the gold anodizing on the main spar to wing ribs rivets? I noticed them when looking at a certain angle in the sunlight. I figured it was probably just the anodizing being compressed and is not a big deal. Am I correct? - Matt


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    Time: 10:27:36 AM PST US
    From: Chris W <1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: video camera
    --> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net> I was thinking one of the small "security" cameras would be nice, see the link at the end of the message. The ones I am thinking of are about $100 for color. They are only 3" long and 3/4" in diameter. That is small enough that you could mount it externally somewhere. Of course you would then need some kind portable recorder with a little LCD screen to monitor it with. As I understand it, the image quality is almost as good, if not better than, a good camcorder. The downside is this camera has a fixed lens with a 90 degree field of view, that's a pretty wide angle lens. There is another small camera on that web site that has a a zoom lens but it isn't weatherproof. short link http://makeashorterlink.com/?D202541AA original link http://www.palmvid.com/content/categories/video-cameras/sub-categories/wired-security-cameras/products/bullet-shaped-weatherproof-camera.html?tab_flag=specs#tab I also have some more screen shots of the RV-7 in MS FS 2004 with me in an "interesting" formation http://www.thewishzone.com/aviation/Simulator/ do not archive -- Chris W Gift Giving Made Easy Get the gifts you want & give the gifts they want http://thewishzone.com


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    Time: 10:43:09 AM PST US
    From: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
    Subject: Re: video camera
    --> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com> this is kind of like what I have... I really need to go take some more videos... http://www.rv8a.com/stabcam/index.htm -Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris W" <1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: video camera --> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net> I was thinking one of the small "security" cameras would be nice, see the link at the end of the message. The ones I am thinking of are about $100 for color. They are only 3" long and 3/4" in diameter. That is small enough that you could mount it externally somewhere. Of course you would then need some kind portable recorder with a little LCD screen to monitor it with. As I understand it, the image quality is almost as good, if not better than, a good camcorder. The downside is this camera has a fixed lens with a 90 degree field of view, that's a pretty wide angle lens. There is another small camera on that web site that has a a zoom lens but it isn't weatherproof. short link http://makeashorterlink.com/?D202541AA original link http://www.palmvid.com/content/categories/video-cameras/sub-categories/wired-security-cameras/products/bullet-shaped-weatherproof-camera.html?tab_flag=specs#tab I also have some more screen shots of the RV-7 in MS FS 2004 with me in an "interesting" formation http://www.thewishzone.com/aviation/Simulator/ do not archive -- Chris W Gift Giving Made Easy Get the gifts you want & give the gifts they want http://thewishzone.com


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    Time: 01:39:36 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
    Subject: Re: Spinner air dam??
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net> Hi Mike, A total guess on my part; {[?-) If you are talking about the turned up radius of something like 1/4' to 3/8" that is formed into the aluminium opening at the prop root?, I suspect that the strength issue you mention is the predominant reason. Jim in Kelowna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net> Subject: RV-List: Spinner air dam?? > --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" > <mstewart@iss.net> > > I have seen many spinners, all aluminum I think, with small air flow > deflectors that allow for a smooth air deflection from the spinner to > the prop. This is easy enough to do on a fiberglass spinner but I wonder > if it is really all that helpful. More for moisture? More for strength > at that location? I dunno much about props/spinners other than they are > a total mystery, kinda like insurance:-) > > > Any thoughts on that fellas? > > Thanks > > Mike > > Do not archive > > >


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    Time: 01:39:44 PM PST US
    From: "Matthew Brandes" <matthew@n523rv.com>
    Subject: Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Matthew Brandes" <matthew@n523rv.com> I purchased one of these last week. They are the exact same model that Van's includes in the FWF kits. Aero Classic oil coolers, part # 8000075. He's been selling them for awhile, so he has a stock of them. Matthew Brandes, Van's RV-9A (Finish Kit) EAA Chapter 1329 President EAA Chapter 868 Web Editor www.n523rv.com <http://www.n523rv.com/>


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    Time: 02:28:50 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
    Subject: Re: Alodine Powder Supplier?
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net> Michael, Our local "industrial plastics" outet (a source for paint epoxy and composite materials) sells the Alodine crytals in small amounts pacckaged in little tins. A couple of ounces of the crystals mixed with water did the job for my 6A project. My cost some years ago was about $30.00 Canadian dollars. I'm fairly sure the by the pound price would be better. Jim in Kelowna ----- Original Message ----- From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net> <RV10@yahoogroups.com> Subject: RV-List: Alodine Powder Supplier? > --> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" > <rvbuilder@Sausen.net> > > All, > > I'm trying to find a distributor that will sell about a pound of > Alodine in it's powdered form. It goes by either Alodine 1200s or > Iridite 14-2. I don't see the point of paying the large amount of extra > dollars, not to mention hazmat handling charges, for water. Trying to > find a distributor is turning out to be much more difficult than I > expected. None seem to want to deal in small quantities and none of the > local paint supply houses carry it, or they have it in liquid and charge > more than AS and Wicks. > > BTW, I'm in the DFW area. > > Thanks, > Michael Sausen > > >


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    Time: 02:42:24 PM PST US
    From: Hopperdhh@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Whiskers on Main Spar Rivets?
    --> RV-List message posted by: Hopperdhh@aol.com Matt, I noticed that too when building my wing. That would be the anodize coating, which is a glass hard aluminum oxide, fracturing. The best thing to do is to spray some primer at it and keep building. I have to wonder when the corrosion will start, though. There will be a lot of us in the same boat. do not archive Dan Hopper Walton, IN RV-7A (Flying) In a message dated 3/8/05 11:04:51 A.M. US Eastern Standard Time, matt@n559rv.com writes: --> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Johnson" <matt@n559rv.com> I am sure it is probably nothing, but have any of you noticed a "whisker" effect in the gold anodizing on the main spar to wing ribs rivets? I noticed them when looking at a certain angle in the sunlight. I figured it was probably just the anodizing being compressed and is not a big deal. Am I correct? - Matt


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    Time: 03:23:14 PM PST US
    From: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: video camera
    --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com> Any photo experts out there? If I were to buy a bullet cam for quick and dirty from the cockpit video, what kind of lens would I want? I found a place that sells color bullet cams that don't have wide angle lenses but you have to specify wheter you want a 4, 6, or 8 mm lens. I don't really want wide angle because I don't like the distortion it causes. I want the most nature field of view I can get. Any suggestions? --- Chris W <1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net> wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net> > > I was thinking one of the small "security" cameras would be nice, see > the link at the end of the message. The ones I am thinking of are about > $100 for color. They are only 3" long and 3/4" in diameter. That is > small enough that you could mount it externally somewhere. Of course > you would then need some kind portable recorder with a little LCD screen > to monitor it with. As I understand it, the image quality is almost as > good, if not better than, a good camcorder. The downside is this camera > has a fixed lens with a 90 degree field of view, that's a pretty wide > angle lens. There is another small camera on that web site that has a a > zoom lens but it isn't weatherproof. > > short link > http://makeashorterlink.com/?D202541AA > original link > http://www.palmvid.com/content/categories/video-cameras/sub-categories/wired-security-cameras/products/bullet-shaped-weatherproof-camera.html?tab_flag=specs#tab > > I also have some more screen shots of the RV-7 in MS FS 2004 with me in > an "interesting" formation > http://www.thewishzone.com/aviation/Simulator/ > > do not archive > > -- > Chris W > > Gift Giving Made Easy > Get the gifts you want & > give the gifts they want > http://thewishzone.com > > > > > > > ===== -- Scott VanArtsdalen RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!! When a man does all he can though it succeeds not well, blame not him that did it." -- George Washington


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    Time: 04:10:00 PM PST US
    From: Chris W <1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: video camera
    --> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net> Scott Vanartsdalen wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com> > >Any photo experts out there? If I were to buy a bullet cam for quick and dirty from the cockpit >video, what kind of lens would I want? I found a place that sells color bullet cams that don't >have wide angle lenses but you have to specify wheter you want a 4, 6, or 8 mm lens. I don't >really want wide angle because I don't like the distortion it causes. I want the most nature >field of view I can get. Any suggestions? > > > I can tell you want I know. This is all based on 35mm cameras. I will give a chart of lens size vs field of view (FOV) you can use to convert to the video cameras. In photography a 50mm lens is considered standard. Less than 50 is wide angle and more than 50 is telephoto. In the wide angle region, you can go to about 35mm and not get very much distortion. 28mm will start to show noticeable distortion and anything wider has significant distortion around the edges. 105mm is the preferred lens for portraits and is said to give the most natural "perspective". I'm not sure exactly what that means but portraits do look nicer when shot with a lens in that range. For comparison with the video cameras look for the FOV of each lens, and compare to the chart below. 20mm 94 degrees very wide, getting close to fisheye 28mm 74 degrees pretty wide 35mm 62 degrees Wide. 50mm 46 degrees standard 105mm 23 degrees slight telephoto. If you do the math you will see a simple relationship. Double the lens size and you cut the FOV in half. So a 50mm lens would have twice the FOV as a 100 mm lens. The chart doesn't reflect that relationship perfectly because all the numbers I have are rounded off. I believe an 8mm lens on a 1/3" CCD camera has a 40 degree FOV, a 6 mm should have a FOV of 40 * 8/6, or 53 degrees. If the camera has a 1/4" CCD the FOV would be less. That is the one I think I would go with. If the camera you are looking at has interchangeable lenses you might want to buy a few of them. Due to their small size, video camera lenses are a lot cheaper than the same size lens for 35mm cameras. Most web sites selling these cameras will give the FOV for each lens on a given camera. Just remember if the same lens fits on a 1/4" and a 1/3" CCD camera the FOV will be different on each camera. do not archive -- Chris W Gift Giving Made Easy Get the gifts you want & give the gifts they want http://thewishzone.com


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    Time: 05:19:51 PM PST US
    From: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay
    --> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com> Thanks to all who responded. This pretty well answers it. Anybody else looking for an oil cooler this looks like a great deal. Jeff Point > >




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