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1. 05:57 AM - (no subject) (Kdh347@aol.com)
2. 06:43 AM - RV-7 Tail and wing kit for sale (Kdh347@aol.com)
3. 07:33 AM - Blue Mountain Install... (Bill VonDane)
4. 10:38 AM - Spinners (Ernie)
5. 11:21 AM - Navaid Servo wanted (dedgemon@knology.net)
6. 12:27 PM - Yard Store rebuilt squeeze *caution* (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
7. 12:53 PM - Re: Yard Store rebuilt squeeze *caution* (linn walters)
8. 01:00 PM - Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay (Jerry2DT@aol.com)
9. 01:32 PM - Re: Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay (Chuck Jensen)
10. 01:40 PM - Re: Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay (cgalley)
11. 03:20 PM - Re: Prop replacement, question for Das Fed, was: Major or Minor (Mike Robertson)
12. 04:09 PM - Re: Yard Store rebuilt squeeze *caution* (gert)
13. 04:19 PM - Re: Prop replacement, question for Das Fed, was: Major or Minor (Dwight Frye)
14. 04:30 PM - Re: Yard Store rebuilt squeeze *caution* (JOHN STARN)
15. 04:36 PM - Re: Yard Store rebuilt squeeze *caution* (Richard Scott)
16. 05:08 PM - Re: Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay (Jeff Point)
17. 05:12 PM - Re: Spinners (Greg Puckett)
18. 06:26 PM - Re: Re: Yard Store rebuilt squeeze *caution* (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
19. 06:59 PM - Re: Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay (cgalley)
20. 08:44 PM - Re: Yard Store rebuilt squeeze *caution* (LARRY ADAMSON)
21. 10:01 PM - Re: Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay (Konrad L. Werner)
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--> RV-List message posted by: Kdh347@aol.com
> Have the tail kit finished and the wing kit hardly stsrted.New York area
If
> interested, E-mail me at _kdh347@aol.com_ (mail to:kdh347@aol.com) or
call
> 845-677-3193
> Thanks Ken
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| Subject: | RV-7 Tail and wing kit for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kdh347@aol.com
>It kills me to do this RV-7 empennage and wing kit for sale
Have the tail kit finished and the wing kit hardly stsrted.New York area If
> interested, E-mail me at _kdh347@aol.com_ (mail to:kdh347@aol.com) or
call
> 845-677-3193
> Thanks Ken PS also A complete set of tools, including pneumatic
squisser.
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| Subject: | Blue Mountain Install... |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill VonDane <bill@vondane.com>
I started my Blue Mountain Sport and Autopilot install last weekend... Have
the Magnetometer, AP Controller, and elevator Servo installed...
I have posted some info and pix to my web site...
http://www.rv8a.com/panel/panel3/installation.htm
-Bill
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Ernie" <eamadio@cogeco.ca>
This is my first post in several years. I am building an older RV-6 kit and
have a question regarding spinners.
Has anyone on the list used the spinner supplied in the kit with a McCauley
constant speed prop? If so are there any pit falls I should be aware of?
Thanks for your help.
Ernie Amadio
Rv-6
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| Subject: | Navaid Servo wanted |
--> RV-List message posted by: "dedgemon@knology.net" <dedgemon@knology.net>
I'm looking for a Navaid servo. If you have one you'd like to sell please
email me offline.
Servo only, not the control head.
Thanks
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David Edgemon
RV-9A N42DE
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| Subject: | Yard Store rebuilt squeeze *caution* |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@Sausen.net>
All,
This is my own fault for assuming but I wanted to pass it along anyway
to anyone considering getting a pneumatic squeeze. Be sure they have an
adjustable set holder. The item "12310 Rebuilt C Squeeze" The Yard
Store carries doesn't have one and when I called they just said that if
it does they will list it in the description. My only experience has
been with adjustable so I didn't even know that it could have a fixed
holder They didn't really seem to care when I mentioned that they
should say that it isn't adjustable on the website. They did offer a
refund if I sent it back at my expense.
My solution was to take the adjustable one out of my hand squeeze.
Just wanted everyone to be mindful when dealing with them that they need
to not assume anything. They didn't cheat me but they didn't exactly
seem to care that I wasn't happy.
Michael Sausen
RV-10 40352
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| Subject: | Re: Yard Store rebuilt squeeze *caution* |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
Michael, I would agree that they could have been more receptive of your
suggestion to label the squeezers as adjustable/non-adjustable.
However, they did make you the offer for a refund and you'd have paid
shipping for an education .... and shared it with us. However, you were
able to analyze the situation and solve it on your own. Not as elegant
as swapping squeezers rapidly ..... but a good solution nonetheless.
Sorry you're not happy, but you can still feel good about saving another
builder the same 'gotcha'.
Linn
do not archive
RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@Sausen.net>
>
>All,
>
> This is my own fault for assuming but I wanted to pass it along anyway
>to anyone considering getting a pneumatic squeeze. Be sure they have an
>adjustable set holder. The item "12310 Rebuilt C Squeeze" The Yard
>Store carries doesn't have one and when I called they just said that if
>it does they will list it in the description. My only experience has
>been with adjustable so I didn't even know that it could have a fixed
>holder They didn't really seem to care when I mentioned that they
>should say that it isn't adjustable on the website. They did offer a
>refund if I sent it back at my expense.
>
> My solution was to take the adjustable one out of my hand squeeze.
>Just wanted everyone to be mindful when dealing with them that they need
>to not assume anything. They didn't cheat me but they didn't exactly
>seem to care that I wasn't happy.
>
>Michael Sausen
>RV-10 40352
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry2DT@aol.com
Jeff,
This fella has been selling these for awhile. I bought one and it *looks
good*. I plan to pressure test it and will post results at some point. I also
ha
ve a used Harrison the same size, and it weighs more, probably because of the
cast alum ends... HTH...
Jerry Cochran
From: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Subject: RV-List: Oil Coolers on Ebay
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Take a look at these and see what you think. A friend found these and
wants to use one on his -6. What do you think?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4533025216&
category=26442&sspagename=WDVW#ebayphotohosting
Jeff Point
RV-6
Milwaukee WI
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com>
Does he sell them one at a time, or will he sell additional units at the auction
price. I sent a question but never got an answer. If someone on the list is
the winner, I'll buy a second one from you for the auction price and whatever
'vigorish' you might want.
Chuck
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jerry2DT@aol.com
Subject: RV-List: Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry2DT@aol.com
Jeff,
This fella has been selling these for awhile. I bought one and it *looks
good*. I plan to pressure test it and will post results at some point. I also
ha
ve a used Harrison the same size, and it weighs more, probably because of the
cast alum ends... HTH...
Jerry Cochran
From: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Subject: RV-List: Oil Coolers on Ebay
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Take a look at these and see what you think. A friend found these and
wants to use one on his -6. What do you think?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4533025216&
category=26442&sspagename=WDVW#ebayphotohosting
Jeff Point
RV-6
Milwaukee WI
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay |
--> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
I wondered where all the coolers went that were replaced free.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Jerry2DT@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry2DT@aol.com
>
>
> Jeff,
>
> This fella has been selling these for awhile. I bought one and it *looks
> good*. I plan to pressure test it and will post results at some point. I
> also ha
> ve a used Harrison the same size, and it weighs more, probably because of
> the
> cast alum ends... HTH...
>
> Jerry Cochran
>
> From: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Oil Coolers on Ebay
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
>
> Take a look at these and see what you think. A friend found these and
> wants to use one on his -6. What do you think?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4533025216&
> category=26442&sspagename=WDVW#ebayphotohosting
>
> Jeff Point
> RV-6
> Milwaukee WI
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Prop replacement, question for Das Fed, was: Major or Minor |
Modification for electronic ignitions?
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
He is correct, although I would recommend placing the aircraft into Phase 1
and doing some testing on performance differences. That you can do on your
own at any time. Just make a log entry placing the aircraft into Phase 1
for testing of new prop, do whatever testing you feel is prudent, and sign
it off placing the aircraft back into Phase 2.
Mike Robertson
>From: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com.for.electronic.ignitions?
>Subject: RV-List: Prop replacement, question for Das Fed, was: Major or
>Minor Modification for electronic ignitions?
>Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 00:46:57 -0600
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
>
>On the subject of major mods and operating limitations:
>
>I have the older operating limitations (requiring FSDO blessing for any
>"major change.") I am replacing my wood Sterba experimental prop with a
>wood core, fiberglass covered Catto experimental prop. Weight is about
>the same, and both are fixed pitch, experimental props. According to a
>local FAA inspector (who deals with a lot of homebuilts and whose
>opinion is widely respected around these parts) this does not constitute
>a "major change" and no new certificate is required, nor is any phase 1
>time.
>
>This strikes me as a bit odd. What do you think, Mike, or anybody else
>who knows?
>
>Jeff Point
>RV-6
>Milwaukee WI
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Yard Store rebuilt squeeze *caution* |
--> RV-List message posted by: gert <gert.v@sbcglobal.net>
Here is another data point, I bought a pneumatic squeezer from them,
pretty much site unseen, real cheap, during oshkosh, many years ago..
after a few tries it started leaking air and would not squeeze anymore,
knowing how I had bought it, I called for a rebuild kit.
after some talking they figured out that it was for a recently aquired
squeezer from them. No seal kit forme, instead, they insisted I ship the
squeezer back as their stuff works.....I shipped it to them, they fixed
it and overnighted it back, my cost....shipping to them. now 5 years
later it still works like a charm.
and yes, it did NOT have an ajustable plunjer, I made one from a 3/8"
shoulderbolt with the head ground off, still works too after 5 years.
Me, I am very happy with the service/goods received.
Gert
linn walters wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
>
>
>Michael, I would agree that they could have been more receptive of your
>suggestion to label the squeezers as adjustable/non-adjustable.
>However, they did make you the offer for a refund and you'd have paid
>shipping for an education .... and shared it with us. However, you were
>able to analyze the situation and solve it on your own. Not as elegant
>as swapping squeezers rapidly ..... but a good solution nonetheless.
>Sorry you're not happy, but you can still feel good about saving another
>builder the same 'gotcha'.
>Linn
>do not archive
>
>RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@Sausen.net>
>>
>>All,
>>
>> This is my own fault for assuming but I wanted to pass it along anyway
>>to anyone considering getting a pneumatic squeeze. Be sure they have an
>>adjustable set holder. The item "12310 Rebuilt C Squeeze" The Yard
>>Store carries doesn't have one and when I called they just said that if
>>it does they will list it in the description. My only experience has
>>been with adjustable so I didn't even know that it could have a fixed
>>holder They didn't really seem to care when I mentioned that they
>>should say that it isn't adjustable on the website. They did offer a
>>refund if I sent it back at my expense.
>>
>> My solution was to take the adjustable one out of my hand squeeze.
>>Just wanted everyone to be mindful when dealing with them that they need
>>to not assume anything. They didn't cheat me but they didn't exactly
>>seem to care that I wasn't happy.
>>
>>Michael Sausen
>>RV-10 40352
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Prop replacement, question for Das Fed, was: Major or Minor |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dwight Frye <dwight@openweave.org>
Mike,
I have a question related to this very activity ... and am asking not so
much for myself (I'm still building), but just to satisfy my curiosity.
I have had the impression that all these suggestions and requirements have
been tendered with the idea that the person doing the work is the builder
and has a repairman's certificate for the aircraft. However, what are the
rules/regs for someone who does NOT have the repairmans certificate and who
is NOT an A/P? Somehow I can't imagine that they would be in a position to
change their prop, put it into phase 1, perform the flight testing, and
sign it off putting it back in phase 2. Or can they?
If a person *were* in this situation, and they were *not* allowed to make
these sorts of (potentially major, depending upon the whims of their local
FSDO) changes .... who can? I assume an A/P could, but what would be the
process? Can an A/P put it into phase 1, test, then sign the logbook putting
it back into phase 2?
A related question is ... if the person is NOT the builder (and not an A/P,
though I'm not sure it would matter if they were in this case) and has the
older operating limitations ... can *they* get the operating limitations
changed? Would there be any point?
Thanks, in advance, for satisfying my curiosity on these questions!
-- Dwight
do not archive
On Wed Mar 9 18:18:50 2005, Mike Robertson wrote :
>
>He is correct, although I would recommend placing the aircraft into Phase 1
>and doing some testing on performance differences. That you can do on your
>own at any time. Just make a log entry placing the aircraft into Phase 1
>for testing of new prop, do whatever testing you feel is prudent, and sign
>it off placing the aircraft back into Phase 2.
>
>Mike Robertson
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| Subject: | Re: Yard Store rebuilt squeeze *caution* |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
So I've ordered three times from The Yard. Everthing was shipped on time &
as ordered until the last time. Ordered the drill box with full set of drill
bits with some other stuff. They shipped an empty drill bit box (they sell
it both ways). I called and advised the lady on the phone what I found. She
had another box complete with drill bits shipped that day. (arrived two days
later). I ask what to do with the plain box, offered to keep it & pay for
it. She advised me to keep it to make up for their error. Would I order from
them again...YOU BET. KABONG Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "gert" <gert.v@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Yard Store rebuilt squeeze *caution*
> --> RV-List message posted by: gert <gert.v@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Here is another data point, I bought a pneumatic squeezer from them,
> pretty much site unseen, real cheap, during oshkosh, many years ago..
>>--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
>>Michael, I would agree that they could have been more receptive of your
>>suggestion to label the squeezers as adjustable/non-adjustable.
>>>--> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)"
>>><rvbuilder@Sausen.net>
>>> This is my own fault for assuming but I wanted to pass it along anyway
>>>to anyone considering getting a pneumatic squeeze. Be sure they have an
>>>adjustable set holder. The item "12310 Rebuilt C Squeeze" The Yard
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| Subject: | Re: Yard Store rebuilt squeeze *caution* |
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Scott <rscott@cascadeaccess.com>
Neither Avery nor Cleaveland indicate that an adjustable set holder comes
with their squeezer and they both sell one separately, suggesting theirs
also come with fixed set holders. I don't see any difference with The
Yard. Maybe they could have been more understanding about your mistake,
but it appears to me that is was your mistake.
The Yard folks have always given me good service and on one occasion
adjusted their price to me to meet the competition's price. Also, their
shipping cost on small items is a better deal, as they charge only actual cost.
You may also note that their price was almost $200 cheaper than that
charged by Clear Air Tools
http://clearairtools.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=CA&Category_Code=PRS
for their rebuilt squeezers, so you got a pretty good deal.
BTW, when you want additional yokes, Clear Air seems to have the best deals.
Richard Scott
RV-9A Wings
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Care to elaborate on that?
>I wondered where all the coolers went that were replaced free.
>
>
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Greg Puckett" <rv8er@myawai.com>
Ernie,
I've mounted a McCauley constant speed prop on my not yet flying RV-8
and chose not to use Van's spinner kit. The problem with the spinner in
the kit is that it's backplate is designed to mount to the rear of
Hartzell hub. As I'm sure you know, the McCauley 214 hub does not have
this boss for it to mount to. It's spinner backplate gets sandwiched
between the hub and the prop flange (in the Mooney application), or in
the Cessna application, uses "ears" that go under the prop nuts.
I'm sure there is a way to make it work. Louis Smith
http://members.aol.com/lousmith/page/rv.html did this on his -8 but
after talking to him and others I chose an easier method. I should say
easier to fabricate and not easier to pay for.
The Whirlwind 200RV propeller
http://www.whirlwindaviation.com/series200rv.php uses or used to use a
McCauley 214 hub. They provided me with the spinner only and all I had
to do is bolt it on. Then I had to rush to work for some OT to pay for
it ;-)
One other nice thing is that if you ever want to save a little weight up
front, you can send them your hub, and they will install their blades
onto your 214 hub. The Whirlwind spinner is similar to the Cessna
version, that is, it uses the "ears" under the prop nuts. If your hub
does not have these "ears" installed under the nuts, you will have to
order the Cessna mounting ears and go through the hassle of installing
them. This involves tapping the roll pin out of the castle nuts, then
removing the nut from the studs. I'm fairly certain the nuts are
installed with permanent locktite which makes it a bit of a pain to do.
Greg Puckett
Elizabeth, CO
RV-8 80081
You wrote:
This is my first post in several years. I am building an older RV-6 kit
and
have a question regarding spinners.
Has anyone on the list used the spinner supplied in the kit with a
McCauley
constant speed prop? If so are there any pit falls I should be aware of?
Thanks for your help.
Ernie Amadio
Rv-6
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| Subject: | Re: Yard Store rebuilt squeeze *caution* |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@Sausen.net>
As I said, I don't feel that I was cheated and I'm not saying that they
did anything wrong. The caution is merely to new builders that might
not know the difference. My only experience with squeezers was that
they were adjustable so I had no idea. My new hand squeeze from Avery
was adjustable.
Sub $300 for a pneumatic squeeze is a good deal no matter how you look
at it, I just would have like to have known about the lack of adjustment
so I could have ordered one with it. That's why I posted, so other
people would know. BTW, their pneumatic cleco squeeze is great! But
stay away from the individual oilers for $5, they leak into the line
when not in use.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Scott
Subject: RV-List: Re: Yard Store rebuilt squeeze *caution*
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Scott <rscott@cascadeaccess.com>
Neither Avery nor Cleaveland indicate that an adjustable set holder
comes with their squeezer and they both sell one separately, suggesting
theirs also come with fixed set holders. I don't see any difference
with The Yard. Maybe they could have been more understanding about your
mistake, but it appears to me that is was your mistake.
The Yard folks have always given me good service and on one occasion
adjusted their price to me to meet the competition's price. Also, their
shipping cost on small items is a better deal, as they charge only
actual cost.
You may also note that their price was almost $200 cheaper than that
charged by Clear Air Tools
http://clearairtools.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=CA
&Category_Code=PRS
for their rebuilt squeezers, so you got a pretty good deal.
BTW, when you want additional yokes, Clear Air seems to have the best
deals.
Richard Scott
RV-9A Wings
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay |
--> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
There was one brand of oil cooler that didn't work very well and the company
that made them exchanged them all free.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Point" <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
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> Care to elaborate on that?
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>>I wondered where all the coolers went that were replaced free.
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| Subject: | Re: Yard Store rebuilt squeeze *caution* |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LARRY ADAMSON" <rvhi03@msn.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Subject: RV-List: Yard Store rebuilt squeeze *caution*
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" rvbuilder@Sausen.net
[i] This is my own fault for assuming but I wanted to pass it along anyway
to anyone considering getting a pneumatic squeeze. Be sure they have an
adjustable set holder. [/i]
My pneumatic squeezer was non-adjustable; just used the washers which didn't bother
me. Bought it used, and it kept it's value for seven years.
Since this was used for a lot of repetitious riveting, as compared to my adjustable
Avery hand squeezer being used all over the place; it just didn't have to
be re-adjusted (washers) much.
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
Wrong statement / Different Cooler manufacturer!
Positech had problems earlier, but Aero Classic had none that I know off? But then
I am very far from knowing everything. Perhaps I missed any discussions about
problems on these?
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: cgalley
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay
--> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
I wondered where all the coolers went that were replaced free.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Jerry2DT@aol.com>
To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RV-List: Re: Oil Coolers on Ebay
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry2DT@aol.com
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>
> Jeff,
>
> This fella has been selling these for awhile. I bought one and it *looks
> good*. I plan to pressure test it and will post results at some point. I
> also ha
> ve a used Harrison the same size, and it weighs more, probably because of
> the
> cast alum ends... HTH...
>
> Jerry Cochran
>
> From: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Oil Coolers on Ebay
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
>
> Take a look at these and see what you think. A friend found these and
> wants to use one on his -6. What do you think?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd1&item4533025216&
> category26442&sspagenameWDVW#ebayphotohosting
>
> Jeff Point
> RV-6
> Milwaukee WI
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