Today's Message Index:
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1. 06:13 AM - For Sale: Compass (Steve Struyk)
2. 06:21 AM - For Sale: Fuel filter (Steve Struyk)
3. 07:01 AM - Re: Re:Paint for Cowls (Alison and Neil)
4. 08:23 AM - Re: Paint for Cowls (Mark Rose)
5. 11:51 AM - Fujitsu Tablet PC for sale (Edward Cole)
6. 12:06 PM - Re: Fujitsu Tablet PC for sale (Bruce Gray)
7. 01:14 PM - Re: Fujitsu Tablet PC for sale (Jerry Springer)
8. 04:06 PM - Riveting HS 707 to HS PP801 (MLWynn@aol.com)
9. 05:22 PM - Re: Riveting HS 707 to HS PP801 (Scott Farner)
10. 07:36 PM - Light Speed wiring question (Wayne Pedersen)
11. 07:39 PM - Re: Paint for Cowls (Brian Alley)
12. 07:53 PM - Re: Light Speed wiring question (Vic Jacko)
13. 08:05 PM - Light Speed wiring question Re-Dux (Vic Jacko)
14. 08:09 PM - Re: Riveting HS 707 to HS PP801 (MLWynn@aol.com)
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| Subject: | For Sale: Compass |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Struyk" <rv8striker@hotmail.com>
I have a new, in the box panel mount compass, internally lit, purchased from Van's.
Part Number: IF CM-13L.
I found out that I need a pedestal mount now. New price is $71. I'll let it go
for $50 or make me an offer.
Contact me off list at: RV8Striker@hot mail.com
Steve Struyk
St. Charles, MO
RV-8 N842S (Res.)
Finishing
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| Subject: | For Sale: Fuel filter |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Struyk" <rv8striker@hotmail.com>
I have a new Flow Ezy fuel filter for sale. It's never been used, still in the
box. This is the recommended filter for the Ellison fuel injection system. It
has a 25 Micron rating and sells new from Aircraft Spruce for $82.50. I'd like
to get $60 for it.
Contact me off list at:
RV8Striker@hotmail.com
Steve Struyk
St. Charles, MO
RV-8, N842S (Res.)
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| Subject: | Re:Paint for Cowls |
--> RV-List message posted by: Alison and Neil <alisonandneil@direcway.com>
I wonder if it's ok to use Smooth Prime over a coat of primer? The primer
really makes the pinholes show then you could fill them with Smooth Prime
with more confidence you got em all.
Neil, finishing the fiberglass bits
RV7 N748M
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kraut@engalt.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Re:Paint for Cowls
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kraut@engalt.com>
>
> I am a plastic airplane builder and I really love Smooth Prime also. FYI,
> I
> was just speaking to the tech there a few days ago because I wanted to
> prime
> something a long time before it would be painted. He said that the longer
> you wait to paint over it, the better, just the opposite of most primers.
> He said that two weeks in a warm dry spot is great, especially if you are
> in
> a high humidity area, although I have painted over it a day or two later
> without any problems. He also did recommend a coat of two part epoxy
> primer
> before Imron, but I have also gone directly over it with Sherwin Williams
> Polane without a problem.
>
> Brian Kraut
> Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> www.engalt.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> Oldsfolks@aol.com
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Re:Paint for Cowls
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
>
> As another stated ,Smooth Prime is the best I have ever used for filling
> the
> pinholes in that @$
> &* fibreglas. A couple of coats and sands easily.
> I primed and painted the inside of my lower cowl with metallic silver
> paint
> and glued aluminum foil under the space below the exhaust pipes. 700
> hours
> on the first and 61 on the present one with no blistered paint.
>
> Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
> A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
> Charleston,Arkansas
> Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Paint for Cowls |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mark Rose" <av8er2@mcleodusa.net>
I purchased mine in white from asc but at the airport the other day I saw a
flyer that had several colors in it. Try www.polyfiber.com or you can call 1
800 362 3490 maybe they can answer some ??. Mark Rose N137MR
finishing all the little stuff. 8A
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Paint for Cowls
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> Where do you get it in colors other than white (ACS web site lists white
> only)? Do you know if there is there a limit to how long it can be left
> before it must be sealed with primer?
>
> On my cowl, I painted in the inside with a hi-temp rattle-can paint. If I
> were to do it again, I would just seal it with a couple coats of resin.
> The
> outside is still bare at this point....
>
> -
> Larry Bowen, RV-8, 78 Hrs.
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark Rose [mailto:av8er2@mcleodusa.net]
>> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 7:18 PM
>> To: rv-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV-List: Paint for Cowls
>>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: "Mark Rose" <av8er2@mcleodusa.net>
>>
>> Try Poly Fiber UV Smooth Prime it fills the holes real well
>> and can be painted over with any products. Its not cheap but
>> works good. Cleans up with water. ASC has it. It comes in
>> several colors now.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
>> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: RV-List: Paint for Cowls
>>
>>
>> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling"
>> > <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
>> >
>> > I used epoxy/acetone mix to coat the inside per the
>> rv-ator. I then
>> > just sprayed some hi-temp rattle can paint. Im sure you'll
>> get a ton
>> > of recommendations for the outside. Try searching pin holes.
>> >
>> > Shemp/Jeff Dowling
>> > RV-6A, N915JD
>> > 165 hours
>> > Chicago/Louisville
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Walter Tondu" <walter@tondu.com>
>> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>> > Subject: RV-List: Paint for Cowls
>> >
>> >
>> >> --> RV-List message posted by: Walter Tondu <walter@tondu.com>
>> >>
>> >> For those of you with prior epoxy fiberglass painting experience;
>> >>
>> >> What type of primer should I spray my fiberglass/epoxy
>> cowling with
>> >> so that I won't have any issues with final painting
>> sometime down the
>> >> road. A high-fill primer would be good as I would like to
>> get rid of
>> >> all these pin-holes. Also, I want to paint the interior
>> of the cowl
>> >> white. Any recommendations would be helpful.
>> >>
>> >> I seem to remember a thread a while back where some proficient
>> >> painters expressed their opinions about what paints "Not"
>> to use, but
>> >> I cannot find that thread.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> --
>> >> Walter Tondu
>> >> http://www.rv7-a.com
>> >> Moving to Hangar in one week.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> Photoshare, and much much more:
>>
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| Subject: | Fujitsu Tablet PC for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Edward Cole" <edwardmcole@comcast.net>
Fujitsu LT P-600
This Fujitsu tablet is in great shape. Everything works. Battery holds a
charge. Also comes with an external floppy drive and all necessary cables
and power supplies. Description from Fujitsu's website:
Cpu is Pentium3 with SpeedStep technology 600/300 Mhz
Chip set is Intel 440MX-100
Digitizer is resistive with palm rejection
4 MB VRAM( mobility-m)
8.4" tft/ve-tft color svga (800x600 dot) 256k colors with 8 brightness
levels
One type1 or type2 pcmcia CardBus version 3.0
Standard 50-pin compact flash card connector
Integrated interfaces= RJ-11, USB 1.0, DC-in, Expansion connector,
Microphone, Stereo out, IrDA 1.1( FIR 4Mbps), Lan 10/100BaseT(with dock)
56K(V.90) modem, Sound Blaster pro compatible
Comes with mini docking station with usb port
Monitor out port, serial port, printer port, network lan port, mouse port,
full size keyboard port
Wireless keyboard included
Carrying case included
Tablet is loaded with Windows 2000 Professional with certificate of
authenticity sticker.
Setup for Bluetooth and works well with a Bluetooth GPS. (Holux 231).
Setup was used as a navigation system.
Good platform for XM Weather and AnywhereMAP XP
Wireless "G" dongle included.
$650
Please contact me offline if interested.
Ed Cole
RV6A N2169D
Cupertino, CA
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| Subject: | Fujitsu Tablet PC for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
Is this a 600-T or 600-F?
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Edward Cole
Subject: RV-List: Fujitsu Tablet PC for sale
--> RV-List message posted by: "Edward Cole" <edwardmcole@comcast.net>
Fujitsu LT P-600
This Fujitsu tablet is in great shape. Everything works. Battery holds a
charge. Also comes with an external floppy drive and all necessary
cables
and power supplies. Description from Fujitsu's website:
Cpu is Pentium3 with SpeedStep technology 600/300 Mhz
Chip set is Intel 440MX-100
Digitizer is resistive with palm rejection
4 MB VRAM( mobility-m)
8.4" tft/ve-tft color svga (800x600 dot) 256k colors with 8 brightness
levels
One type1 or type2 pcmcia CardBus version 3.0
Standard 50-pin compact flash card connector
Integrated interfaces= RJ-11, USB 1.0, DC-in, Expansion connector,
Microphone, Stereo out, IrDA 1.1( FIR 4Mbps), Lan 10/100BaseT(with dock)
56K(V.90) modem, Sound Blaster pro compatible
Comes with mini docking station with usb port
Monitor out port, serial port, printer port, network lan port, mouse
port,
full size keyboard port
Wireless keyboard included
Carrying case included
Tablet is loaded with Windows 2000 Professional with certificate of
authenticity sticker.
Setup for Bluetooth and works well with a Bluetooth GPS. (Holux 231).
Setup was used as a navigation system.
Good platform for XM Weather and AnywhereMAP XP
Wireless "G" dongle included.
$650
Please contact me offline if interested.
Ed Cole
RV6A N2169D
Cupertino, CA
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| Subject: | Re: Fujitsu Tablet PC for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@comcast.net>
Edward Cole wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Edward Cole" <edwardmcole@comcast.net>
>
>Fujitsu LT P-600
>This Fujitsu tablet is in great shape. Everything works. Battery holds a
>charge. Also comes with an external floppy drive and all necessary cables
>and power supplies. Description from Fujitsu's website:
>Cpu is Pentium3 with SpeedStep technology 600/300 Mhz
>
>
I am sure glad this ad is in the archives forever :)
do not archive
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| Subject: | Riveting HS 707 to HS PP801 |
--> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
Hi all
I started the skin riveting today with trying to rivet HS 707 to the skin, HS
801 PP. I was reminded of one of my professors in training, watching me try
to sew up a skin wound. He said, "Gee, Michael. I'm sure there is a more
awkward way to do that. I'm just not sure what it would be." That is how I am
feeling about now with this skin.
I started to blind rivet the top, but was really having trouble getting the
rivets to lay flat. 1 or 2 look good, a couple are slightly proud (the rivets,
not me) and at least one is loose. I am planning to drill them out and start
over. I usually work alone, as neither wife nor daughters are particularly
shop inclined. Should this be done with a flush riveter and a bucking bar or
continue blind approach? The quarters are quite tight. Should I unbend the
skin somewhat? Do any of you build jigs to hold the section? Any experience
would be really helpful.
Regards,
Michael Wynn
RV-8, Empennage
San Ramon, California
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| Subject: | Re: Riveting HS 707 to HS PP801 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Farner <sfarner@gmail.com>
Michael,
When I riveted the HS skin, I also did not have any help. I didn't
have any problem using the gun and a bucking bar. Here's a link to the
bucking bar I used:
http://www.scottfarner.com/showpage.asp?date=12/27/2004. I had to add
a surface to it so that I could get my fat hand inside there. I used
the same method for my VS. I don't think there is a problem using
blind rivets, structually speaking, but solid rivets look better and
are a lot less expensive. It is not really necessary, but I would
rivet the bottom first just so that any mistakes are not as visible.
In fact, from my own experience and from what I have heard from other
builders, it is easier to put together the VS as the opening is a
little wider. I didn't see the need for a jig - it's easier to rivet
while the HS is flat on the bench.
Just out of curiosity, what blind rivets are you using?
--
Scott
www.scottfarner.com
RV-7 Wings
On Apr 9, 2005 4:03 PM, MLWynn@aol.com <MLWynn@aol.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
>
> Hi all
>
> I started the skin riveting today with trying to rivet HS 707 to the skin, HS
> 801 PP. I was reminded of one of my professors in training, watching me try
> to sew up a skin wound. He said, "Gee, Michael. I'm sure there is a more
> awkward way to do that. I'm just not sure what it would be." That is how I
am
> feeling about now with this skin.
>
> I started to blind rivet the top, but was really having trouble getting the
> rivets to lay flat. 1 or 2 look good, a couple are slightly proud (the rivets,
> not me) and at least one is loose. I am planning to drill them out and start
> over. I usually work alone, as neither wife nor daughters are particularly
> shop inclined. Should this be done with a flush riveter and a bucking bar or
> continue blind approach? The quarters are quite tight. Should I unbend the
> skin somewhat? Do any of you build jigs to hold the section? Any experience
> would be really helpful.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael Wynn
> RV-8, Empennage
> San Ramon, California
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Light Speed wiring question |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne Pedersen" <wayne@pedersentransport.com>
=A0=A0 I have a Light Speed Plasma II Ignition and need help wiring it to the igintion,
mag switch.=A0 I phoned the factory and they said I would need to upgrade
($250) in order to get it to work on the keyed switch. The switch puts the
mag to ground but doesnt allow you to turn the electronic ignition off/on.=0D=0A=0D=0AI
guess I could put the mag and electronic igntion on seperate toggle
switches but I like the idea and security of having a keyed igntion and the
mag/ei/both all together. Anyone else=A0 have a unique solution to this problem
?=0D=0A=0D=0A Thanks=0D=0A=0D=0A Wayne=0D=0A RV 7a Panel =0D=0A=0D=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Paint for Cowls |
--> RV-List message posted by: Brian Alley <n320wt@yahoo.com>
Try Jim and Dondie Miller at Aircraft Technical
Support in Orient, OH 614-877-3334. They are the
largest Polyfiber distrubitors in the US and very
knowledgable in aircraft coating systems.
BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT)
CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES
101 Caroline Circle
Hurricane, WV 25526
304-562-6800 home
How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck?
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| Subject: | Re: Light Speed wiring question |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
The Plasma II does not have the "P" connection capability. The Plasma II+
and III have the "P" connection for the ignition switch. on your keyed
switch.
Looks like you will have to get the Plasma II changed to a Plasma II+ or
revert to using two toggle switches for your ignition system and get ride
of the ignition key. You will of course need a push button for the
starter.
Just my humble opinion.
Vic
--
From: "Wayne Pedersen" <wayne@pedersentransport.com>
Subject: RV-List: Light Speed wiring question
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne Pedersen"
> <wayne@pedersentransport.com>
>
>=A0 I have a Light Speed Plasma II Ignition and need help wiring it to
> the igintion, mag switch.=A0 I phoned the factory and they said I would
> need to upgrade ($250) in order to get it to work on the keyed switch. The
> switch puts the mag to ground but doesnt allow you to turn the electronic
> ignition off/on.=0D=0A=0D=0AI guess I could put the mag and electronic
> igntion on seperate toggle switches but I like the idea and security of
> having a keyed igntion and the mag/ei/both all together. Anyone else=A0
> have a unique solution to this problem ?=0D=0A=0D=0A Thanks=0D=0A=0D=0A
> Wayne=0D=0A RV 7a Panel =0D=0A=0D=0A
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Light Speed wiring question Re-Dux |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
Wayne, there may be a way you can do this.
Use a small relay which will apply power to your Plasma when the ground wire
of the small relay is applied to ground with the keyed ignition. Call me
at 505-622-8513 and we can discuss how this can be done.
Vic
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne Pedersen" <wayne@pedersentransport.com>
Subject: RV-List: Light Speed wiring question
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Wayne Pedersen"
> <wayne@pedersentransport.com>
>
>=A0 I have a Light Speed Plasma II Ignition and need help wiring it to
> the igintion, mag switch.=A0 I phoned the factory and they said I would
> need to upgrade ($250) in order to get it to work on the keyed switch. The
> switch puts the mag to ground but doesnt allow you to turn the electronic
> ignition off/on.=0D=0A=0D=0AI guess I could put the mag and electronic
> igntion on seperate toggle switches but I like the idea and security of
> having a keyed igntion and the mag/ei/both all together. Anyone else=A0
> have a unique solution to this problem ?=0D=0A=0D=0A Thanks=0D=0A=0D=0A
> Wayne=0D=0A RV 7a Panel =0D=0A=0D=0A
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Riveting HS 707 to HS PP801 |
--> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
Hi scott
Perhaps I mis-stated that. I am using the standard rivets but was trying to
back rivet, not blind rivet. Sorry for the confusion. I was just thinking
that because you rivet from the back without looking.
Anyway, I got good results back riveting on my practice piece, but there was
a lot more room to maneuver.
So when you were riveting, you had the HS on your bench flat. The rivet gun
in one hand (right hand?), bucking bar in the other. Were you working from
the top down? By that I mean, HS 707 clecoed to the skin, kind of dangling in
the air and then coming in from the side with your bucking bar? I am having
trouble visualizing the body position. When you get ready to do the opposite
side, the trick is then to get your hand all the way in the narrow spot, yes?
Thanks for taking the time to respond.
Regards,
Michael Wynn
RV-8, Empennage
San Ramon, California
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