RV-List Digest Archive

Sat 04/16/05


Total Messages Posted: 24



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:26 AM - Re: Tips for riveting LE ribs #13 and 14 to wing spar? (GMC)
     2. 06:27 AM - Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues (Tim Olson)
     3. 07:08 AM - Re: Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues (Alex Peterson)
     4. 07:31 AM - Re: Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues (Dwpetrus@aol.com)
     5. 07:32 AM - Re: Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues (Paul Besing)
     6. 07:41 AM - Re: Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues (Dan Checkoway)
     7. 07:41 AM - Re: Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues (Doug Weiler)
     8. 07:43 AM - Re: Ique 3600a ? (Rob Prior (rv7))
     9. 09:05 AM - Re: Ique 3600a ? (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky))
    10. 11:28 AM - Re: Aerosport Engines  (Dale Ensing)
    11. 11:43 AM - Re: Should I or shouldn't I (HCRV6@aol.com)
    12. 11:44 AM - confused about taxes (James Ochs)
    13. 12:47 PM - [Please Read] Matronics Email Server Upgrade... (Matt Dralle)
    14. 01:49 PM - Re: Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues (Chris & Kellie Hand)
    15. 02:47 PM - VM1000 Fuel flow transducer mounting ()
    16. 03:59 PM - Re: VM1000 Fuel flow transducer mounting (Bob C.)
    17. 04:04 PM - Re: VM1000 Fuel flow transducer mounting (Eric Whiteside)
    18. 04:41 PM - Re: Rising EGT with one fouled plug (PSPRV6A@aol.com)
    19. 05:14 PM - Re: VM1000 Fuel flow transducer mounting (Rick Galati)
    20. 07:26 PM - IO-360 oilcooler (gert)
    21. 07:51 PM - Re: Should I or shouldn't I (Vanremog@aol.com)
    22. 07:51 PM - Re: confused about taxes (Vanremog@aol.com)
    23. 08:06 PM - Mag gear (Larry Bowen)
    24. 11:15 PM - Re: Should I or shouldn't I (Garth Shearing)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:26:33 AM PST US
    From: GMC <gmcnutt@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Tips for riveting LE ribs #13 and 14 to wing spar?
    --> RV-List message posted by: GMC <gmcnutt@shaw.ca> Hi John I also laid off building for about 3 years after completing a RV-6A and then started on a RV-7A. Had a terrible time driving AN470-4 rivets and didn't remember having trouble with the first aircraft. After drilling out some rivets three times and using larger rivets I decided to buy a new rivet set (get two, 3" and 5" from Cleveland), suddenly no more problems with mashed rivet heads and humungous smiley's. Not sure if this is factual but I was later told that some of the cheaper RV builders kits had included used rivet sets and I guess they do wear out. George in Langley BC 7A fwd fuse -----Original Message----- --> RV-List message posted by: John Lawson <rv6builder48138@yahoo.com> I am having the devil's own time trying to figure out how to pound the AN470-4 rivets snip------------------- And...I've drilled out and replaced (and botched again) at least two rivets to the point where the holes are probably too large for AN470-4 rivets...sigh. snip---------- This is what I get for having to lay off building for almost three years. Ugh. Semper Fi John (RV-6 - left wing - destroying the world's supply of AN470-4 rivets one at a time)


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    Time: 06:27:41 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues
    --> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Hi all, I have been trying to figure out where to buy my engine, and I want to buy it soon. I've talked to a couple of domestic engine shops, and AeroSport Power in Canada. I've heard they have a good reputation, which is my main motivator for them. My questions are: I'm in Wisconsin and I had another engine company tell me that if I order from AeroSport I might face some odd tax consequences as customs or someone makes Aerosport report to your state the cost of the engine or something like that. I'm not sure this is really relevant though, because I'm thinking that in Wisconsin I need to pay sales tax on the plane when I register it anyway...this would just be paying tax early I'd assume. Can anyone who's purchased one from them, or knows what the deal is enlighten me? Another question is, do pretty much all engine companies re-use the cams and gears? I was thinking that Aerosport said they reuse the crank and case, but most companies give me the impression that those are the only parts re-used....but, when you push harder and dig deeper, they seem to start to indicate that they regrind cams if within limits, reuse gears, and some other things. I'd like to go as new as possible. Regarding fuel injection systems: AeroSport lists their IO's with "new fuel injection system". Then I talked to another place and they rebuild the existing bendix system. What's the best route here? Does Aerosport use precision fuel injection systems that would be much better? My last question is, the last engine place I talked to looked at me like I was crazy when I asked if they use roller lifters on their engines or if they can. They said that in all 20+ years they haven't done that. I was under the impression that there are new roller lifters out recently, and that these things are great for reducing wear. What's the deal? Thanks for any help you guys can offer. I'm hoping to start to rope in my engine soon. Tim -- Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 07:08:49 AM PST US
    From: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net> > Subject: RV-List: Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues > Tim, you will have a hard time finding a better person to talk to about your questions than Bart LaLonde of Aerosport Power. He is almost always available on the phone, and will spend as much time with you as you need. He will build an engine with all new parts, partly used, everything used, whatever you want. I have yet to hear of any customer service problems that they did not take care of. I have over 600 hours on my Aerosport engine now, and it looks as clean as the day I installed it. The engines are works of art. Alex Peterson RV6-A 609 hours Maple Grove, MN http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alexpeterson/


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    Time: 07:31:24 AM PST US
    From: Dwpetrus@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues
    --> RV-List message posted by: Dwpetrus@aol.com Freight on my engine to Louisiana was $195?? It was less to ship from Canada than it would have been from Dallas. wp


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    Time: 07:32:27 AM PST US
    From: "Paul Besing" <paul@kitlog.com>
    Subject: Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <paul@kitlog.com> I second Alex's recommendation on Bart's engine, and service. You can't do better, especially for the price. Yes, you will have customs fees, but it wasn't much from what I remember. 200 bucks on the entire engine or something like that. Paul Besing RV-6A Sold RV-10 Next? Who knows? Kitlog Builder's Software www.kitlog.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tim Olson Subject: RV-List: Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues --> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Hi all, I have been trying to figure out where to buy my engine, and I want to buy it soon. I've talked to a couple of domestic engine shops, and AeroSport Power in Canada. I've heard they have a good reputation, which is my main motivator for them. My questions are: I'm in Wisconsin and I had another engine company tell me that if I order from AeroSport I might face some odd tax consequences as customs or someone makes Aerosport report to your state the cost of the engine or something like that. I'm not sure this is really relevant though, because I'm thinking that in Wisconsin I need to pay sales tax on the plane when I register it anyway...this would just be paying tax early I'd assume. Can anyone who's purchased one from them, or knows what the deal is enlighten me? Another question is, do pretty much all engine companies re-use the cams and gears? I was thinking that Aerosport said they reuse the crank and case, but most companies give me the impression that those are the only parts re-used....but, when you push harder and dig deeper, they seem to start to indicate that they regrind cams if within limits, reuse gears, and some other things. I'd like to go as new as possible. Regarding fuel injection systems: AeroSport lists their IO's with "new fuel injection system". Then I talked to another place and they rebuild the existing bendix system. What's the best route here? Does Aerosport use precision fuel injection systems that would be much better? My last question is, the last engine place I talked to looked at me like I was crazy when I asked if they use roller lifters on their engines or if they can. They said that in all 20+ years they haven't done that. I was under the impression that there are new roller lifters out recently, and that these things are great for reducing wear. What's the deal? Thanks for any help you guys can offer. I'm hoping to start to rope in my engine soon. Tim -- Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 07:41:05 AM PST US
    From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
    Subject: Re: Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> Tim, If you go with fuel injection, consider using the Airflow Performance system. For something like 12 or 15 bucks per cylinder, once you're up and running you can buy custom-sized restrictors in order to get all four cylinders to peak at exactly the same fuel flow -- which enables you to run LOP. This assumes you will have the appropriate instrumentation to do so (4-cyl EGT & 4-cyl CHT & fuel flow). In my case, I didn't have to tweak the restrictors -- out of the box all cylinders peak at the same fuel flow. This may be the exception rather than the rule, but the advantage here is that for a max of about 60 bucks, you get the same functionality as the expensive GAMI system, the ability to run LOP, etc. I have the AFP system on my IO-360-A1B6 (built by AeroSport Power) and I'm very happy with it. Also, FWIW, it only cost a couple hundred bucks ($250 or so iirc) to have the engine shipped to my door (southern CA) from Canada. I didn't have to deal with any weird tax or customs fees (do not archive). I may have lucked out. Bart & Sue & the folks at AeroSport Power were a pleasure to do business with, and I have every intention of doing business with them again in the future. )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com> Subject: RV-List: Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues > --> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > Hi all, > > I have been trying to figure out where to buy my engine, and I want to > buy it soon. I've talked to a couple of domestic engine shops, and > AeroSport Power in Canada. I've heard they have a good reputation, > which is my main motivator for them. > > My questions are: I'm in Wisconsin and I had another engine company > tell me that if I order from AeroSport I might face some odd tax > consequences as customs or someone makes Aerosport report to your > state the cost of the engine or something like that. I'm not sure > this is really relevant though, because I'm thinking that in Wisconsin > I need to pay sales tax on the plane when I register it anyway...this > would just be paying tax early I'd assume. Can anyone who's purchased > one from them, or knows what the deal is enlighten me? > > Another question is, do pretty much all engine companies re-use the > cams and gears? I was thinking that Aerosport said they reuse the > crank and case, but most companies give me the impression that those > are the only parts re-used....but, when you push harder and dig > deeper, they seem to start to indicate that they regrind cams if > within limits, reuse gears, and some other things. I'd like to > go as new as possible. > > Regarding fuel injection systems: AeroSport lists their IO's with > "new fuel injection system". Then I talked to another place and > they rebuild the existing bendix system. What's the best route > here? Does Aerosport use precision fuel injection systems that > would be much better? > > My last question is, the last engine place I talked to looked at me > like I was crazy when I asked if they use roller lifters on their > engines or if they can. They said that in all 20+ years they haven't > done that. I was under the impression that there are new roller > lifters out recently, and that these things are great for reducing > wear. What's the deal? > > Thanks for any help you guys can offer. I'm hoping to start to rope > in my engine soon. > > Tim > -- > Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > >


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    Time: 07:41:05 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues
    From: Doug Weiler <dcw@nomadwi.com>
    --> RV-List message posted by: Doug Weiler <dcw@nomadwi.com> Tim: I will second Alex's assessment of AeroSport. I now have 175+ hrs on my Aerosport engine and it has been flawless. When I was engine shopping, I had heard so many good reports about Bart, I decided to combine a ski trip to Kamloops with a visit to his shop (this was 6 years ago). Bart is an engine genius in my opinion. I spent the morning with him and most of the time he was talking way over my head. I was sold right there. Since then, more than a dozen Aerosport engines are powering RVs in the Twin Cities RV Builder's Club. Bart will go that extra mile and there have been many instances his outstanding customer service. My engine was 100% new except for the case which was an OH unit. Bart will build an engine in any many you choose with whatever parts you choose. As to taxes and shipping, I think I recall a small broker fee (seems like it was 50 or 60 dollars and that was it. Shipping was comparable to a similar parcel coming from Van's. If you would like more details, feel free to contact me off list. Doug Weiler, pres MN Wing Hudson, WI On 4/16/05 8:26 AM, "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > Hi all, > > I have been trying to figure out where to buy my engine, and I want to > buy it soon. I've talked to a couple of domestic engine shops, and > AeroSport Power in Canada. I've heard they have a good reputation, > which is my main motivator for them. > > My questions are: I'm in Wisconsin and I had another engine company > tell me that if I order from AeroSport I might face some odd tax > consequences as customs or someone makes Aerosport report to your > state the cost of the engine or something like that. I'm not sure > this is really relevant though, because I'm thinking that in Wisconsin > I need to pay sales tax on the plane when I register it anyway...this > would just be paying tax early I'd assume. Can anyone who's purchased > one from them, or knows what the deal is enlighten me? > > Another question is, do pretty much all engine companies re-use the > cams and gears? I was thinking that Aerosport said they reuse the > crank and case, but most companies give me the impression that those > are the only parts re-used....but, when you push harder and dig > deeper, they seem to start to indicate that they regrind cams if > within limits, reuse gears, and some other things. I'd like to > go as new as possible. > > Regarding fuel injection systems: AeroSport lists their IO's with > "new fuel injection system". Then I talked to another place and > they rebuild the existing bendix system. What's the best route > here? Does Aerosport use precision fuel injection systems that > would be much better? > > My last question is, the last engine place I talked to looked at me > like I was crazy when I asked if they use roller lifters on their > engines or if they can. They said that in all 20+ years they haven't > done that. I was under the impression that there are new roller > lifters out recently, and that these things are great for reducing > wear. What's the deal? > > Thanks for any help you guys can offer. I'm hoping to start to rope > in my engine soon. > > Tim


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    Time: 07:43:05 AM PST US
    From: "Rob Prior (rv7)" <rv7@b4.ca>
    Subject: Re: Ique 3600a ?
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Rob Prior (rv7)" <rv7@b4.ca> Jim Jewell wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net> >>I am considering the iQue 3600a to put in my homebuilt and was wondering >>if the unit has the ability to drive my autopilot through some sort of >>link? Or to put it another way is there provisions for a signal out? > > Garmin's answer indicated that the iQue 3600a is the one portable GPS that > does not output the NMEA 0183 sentences needed by some devices to drive an > autopilot. I just read in a magazine this week (i'll try and find the article if anyone wants it) that some of Garmin's eTrex units only have USB connectors, and *DO NOT* support the NMEA standard protocols. Garmin appears to be moving away from the NMEA standards, at least on their consumer-oriented units. I'm not sure if the 3600a falls in this category or not, but you should be able to find out from Garmin what protocols it will output and how it does it. If you know what protocols your autopilot takes in, it should be a simple matter to determine whether they're compatable. fwiw, I replaced my trusty GPS III with a GPSMAP 76CS this year. I still advocate avoiding the aviation units with their expensive, proprietary databases. A consumer GPS can have all the airports you want entered into it with your computer, and you can always carry a Flight Supplement to look up frequencies. And the FS is cheaper to keep up-to-date than a proprietary aviation database. Just my $0.02! Rob in Burnaby


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    Time: 09:05:32 AM PST US
    From: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
    Subject: Re: Ique 3600a ?
    --> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky) 3600a doesn't output ANYTHING. It's not designed to interact with any other device according to on of their folks I called. -------------- Original message -------------- > --> RV-List message posted by: "Rob Prior (rv7)" > > Jim Jewell wrote: > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" > >>I am considering the iQue 3600a to put in my homebuilt and was wondering > >>if the unit has the ability to drive my autopilot through some sort of > >>link? Or to put it another way is there provisions for a signal out? > > > > Garmin's answer indicated that the iQue 3600a is the one portable GPS that > > does not output the NMEA 0183 sentences needed by some devices to drive an > > autopilot. > > I just read in a magazine this week (i'll try and find the article if > anyone wants it) that some of Garmin's eTrex units only have USB > connectors, and *DO NOT* support the NMEA standard protocols. Garmin > appears to be moving away from the NMEA standards, at least on their > consumer-oriented units. I'm not sure if the 3600a falls in this > category or not, but you should be able to find out from Garmin what > protocols it will output and how it does it. If you know what protocols > your autopilot takes in, it should be a simple matter to determine > whether they're compatable. > > fwiw, I replaced my trusty GPS III with a GPSMAP 76CS this year. I > still advocate avoiding the aviation units with their expensive, > proprietary databases. A consumer GPS can have all the airports you > want entered into it with your computer, and you can always carry a > Flight Supplement to look up frequencies. And the FS is cheaper to keep > up-to-date than a proprietary aviation database. > > Just my $0.02! > > Rob in Burnaby > > > > > > 3600a doesn't output ANYTHING. It's not designed to interact with any other device according to on of their folks I called. -------------- Original message -------------- -- RV-List message posted by: "Rob Prior (rv7)" <RV7@B4.CA> Jim Jewell wrote: -- RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <JJEWELL@TELUS.NET> I am considering the iQue 3600a to put in my homebuilt and was wondering if the unit has the ability to drive my autopilot through some sort of link? Or to put it another way is there provisions for a signal out? Garmin's answer indicated that the iQue 3600a is the one portable GPS that does not output the NMEA 0183 sentences needed by some devices to drive an autopilot. I just read in a magazine this week (i'll try and find the article if anyone wants it) that some of Garmin's eTrex units only have USB connectors, and *DO NOT* support the NMEA standard protocols. Garmin appears to be moving away from the NMEA standards, at least on their consumer-oriented units. I'm not sure if the 3600a falls in this category or not, but you should be able to find out from Garmin what protocols it will output and how it does it. If you know what protocols your autopilot takes in, it should be a simple matter to determine whether they're compatable. fwiw, I replaced my trusty GPS III with a GPSMAP 76CS this year. I still advocate avoiding the aviation units with their expensive, proprietary databases. A consumer GPS can have all the airports you want entered into it with your computer, and you can always carry a Flight Supplement to look up frequencies. And the FS is cheaper to keep up-to-date than a proprietary aviation database. Just my $0.02! Rob in Burnaby


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    Time: 11:28:49 AM PST US
    From: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Aerosport Engines
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com> Tim, Have an O-360 A1A from Aero Sport Power and have 45 hours of flight time on airplane. Engine is now running as expected. However, there were some detail issues: 1. Engine was shipped without desiccant plugs as promised. 2. Engine was shipped without oil dip stick and tube. 3. Starter needed to be exchanged because the gear did not match the ring gear on the engine. 4. Engine would not start because the LASAR mags were not timed correctly. Right mag was 360 deg off. (timed to fire on the exhaust stroke) Left mag was timed "out in left field". On the tax issue, check it out carefully. Another local RV builder sent an engine to ASP for repair after a prop. strike and had to pay taxes to get it back. Dale Ensing RV-6A in North Carolina


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    Time: 11:43:38 AM PST US
    From: HCRV6@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Should I or shouldn't I
    --> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com In a message dated 4/14/05 5:42:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Vanremog@aol.com writes: > <<This question is directed more toward my 6/6A brethren who are flying > their > creations. > > If you were in my shoes, where I am just about to take my 6A to the > airport, > would you replace the vertical stab and rudder with a 7/7A version prior to > getting everything completed? Those of you that are flying the 6/6A, do > you > ever wish you had more rudder authority? Is the tendency to fishtail that > apparent with the 6/6A vertical stab and rudder? > >> I've only got 62+ hours on my -6 so far but I would also say "no way" (especially if you are planning on a lighter prop like a composite or wood.) Yeah, there is a little bit of fish tailing in moderate turbulence, but so what? I don't have any significant amount of time in a "V" tail Bonanza but I've always heard they do the same thing. The airplane flies just fine with the original tail, why screw with success and add tail weight in the process. Harry Crosby RV-6 N16CX, 62 hours R


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    Time: 11:44:52 AM PST US
    From: "James Ochs" <jochs@froody.org>
    Subject: confused about taxes
    --> RV-List message posted by: "James Ochs" <jochs@froody.org> Hi all, I am getting ready to order the -10 kit and trying to make heads or tails of the California / Santa Clara County tax laws around aircraft, and specifically homebuilts ;) Does anyone have any resources that they can refer me to to get a plain English explanation of the rules? i.e. since I'll be buying from a seller in Oregon, for California, do I pay the sales tax for each component of the kit as I buy it? Do I just pay use tax when I register it instead? Am I liable for property tax / use tax every year on the thing? Santa Clara county is going to be fun too.. apparently they have a tax that was created in the 1800's to tax farmers allowing their animals to graze on county land. They have managed to apply this tax to aircraft owners hangaring their aircraft in the county by calling it a property tax on exclusive use of public lands - even though your rental fee for the hanger goes to the county / airport. Add this to what I have heard is a 1% annual property tax and who knows what else, and maybe I'll just need to look for a hangar / tie down (20 year waiting lists on hangars around here :P) somewhere else! Everything I can find on the tax agencies web site is written in such a way as to be so vague that it actually doesn't say anything useful and is geared toward the purchase of a built and flying aircraft. I can't imagine that it is really that complicated to state what the taxes due are. I would think an individual buying a kit out of state, building it, then registering it should be a very simple case on the state level. Man I hate tax law. It doesn't have to be this complicated! ;) Thanks, James


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    Time: 12:47:50 PM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: [Please Read] Matronics Email Server Upgrade...
    --> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> Dear Listers, I will be upgrading the Matronics Email Server this weekend. This includes some hardware improvements - more memory, faster, more capable processors - as well as a complete operating system upgrade from scratch. I hope to have both the old system and the new system running at the same time to minimize the actual impact of the upgrade. Hopefully there will be little actual downtime during the transition, but a few posts may get lost in the shuffle. If you don't see your post show up on the List in the normal amount of time (plus a little bit), then please just try posting it again. Upgrading the Matronics Email Server operating system (from Redhat Linux 7.2 to Redhat Linux WS 4) is a sizeable undertaking and requires a great deal of work to port all of the utilities, programs, and scripts over to the new system. As I've already mentioned, both the old and new systems will be on line at the same time, so interruption should be held to an absolute minimal. You might see a couple of odd test messages during the cut-over or other odd messages; please just ignore them. I have setup a new System Status Web Page that I will use to update List Members on the current status of the email and web systems. Please refer to it as often as you like: http://www.matronics.com/SystemStatus/ Thank you for your continued support of the List Services at Matronics! Its your yearly Contributions that make these major upgrades possible! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator


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    Time: 01:49:40 PM PST US
    From: "Chris & Kellie Hand" <ckhand@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Chris & Kellie Hand" <ckhand@earthlink.net> I also need to buy an engine very soon and based on what I've read, heard, and been told....am probably going with a new build Aerosport O-360. One thing I am still debating though is ECI vs Superior engine parts. There is a $1,300 price difference (ECI based engine is cheaper). I've been through the web sites and talked to my local A&P but haven't yet been convinces that the Superior parts engine is worth the extra money (could use that for panel stuff...). Any opinions out there one way or the other?? Chris Hand RV-6A, #23559 Poulsbo, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com> Subject: RV-List: Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues > --> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > Hi all, > > I have been trying to figure out where to buy my engine, and I want to > buy it soon. I've talked to a couple of domestic engine shops, and > AeroSport Power in Canada. I've heard they have a good reputation, > which is my main motivator for them. > > My questions are: I'm in Wisconsin and I had another engine company > tell me that if I order from AeroSport I might face some odd tax > consequences as customs or someone makes Aerosport report to your > state the cost of the engine or something like that. I'm not sure > this is really relevant though, because I'm thinking that in Wisconsin > I need to pay sales tax on the plane when I register it anyway...this > would just be paying tax early I'd assume. Can anyone who's purchased > one from them, or knows what the deal is enlighten me? > > Another question is, do pretty much all engine companies re-use the > cams and gears? I was thinking that Aerosport said they reuse the > crank and case, but most companies give me the impression that those > are the only parts re-used....but, when you push harder and dig > deeper, they seem to start to indicate that they regrind cams if > within limits, reuse gears, and some other things. I'd like to > go as new as possible. > > Regarding fuel injection systems: AeroSport lists their IO's with > "new fuel injection system". Then I talked to another place and > they rebuild the existing bendix system. What's the best route > here? Does Aerosport use precision fuel injection systems that > would be much better? > > My last question is, the last engine place I talked to looked at me > like I was crazy when I asked if they use roller lifters on their > engines or if they can. They said that in all 20+ years they haven't > done that. I was under the impression that there are new roller > lifters out recently, and that these things are great for reducing > wear. What's the deal? > > Thanks for any help you guys can offer. I'm hoping to start to rope > in my engine soon. > > Tim > -- > Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170 > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > >


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    Time: 02:47:56 PM PST US
    From: <dwhite17@columbus.rr.com>
    Subject: VM1000 Fuel flow transducer mounting
    --> RV-List message posted by: <dwhite17@columbus.rr.com> Can anyone help with where they mounted their VM1000 Fuel Flow transducer? We are building an RV-6, with a Lycoming O-360-AIA engine. The instructions say to mount level, between the engine driven fuel pump and the carb, and allow at least 5" minimum straight length between. How does one do that?


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    Time: 03:59:30 PM PST US
    From: "Bob C. " <flyboy.bob@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: VM1000 Fuel flow transducer mounting
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob C. " <flyboy.bob@gmail.com> I mounted mine just downstream of the gasolator (RV8) . . . I would think flow would need to be down stream of the engine driven pump? I'm using ACS and EI furnished the flow sensor? Good Luck, Bob RV-8 - N678RC On 4/16/05, dwhite17@columbus.rr.com <dwhite17@columbus.rr.com> wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: <dwhite17@columbus.rr.com> > > Can anyone help with where they mounted their VM1000 Fuel Flow transducer? We are building an RV-6, with a Lycoming O-360-AIA engine. The instructions say to mount level, between the engine driven fuel pump and the carb, and allow at least 5" minimum straight length between. How does one do that? > > >


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    Time: 04:04:54 PM PST US
    From: "Eric Whiteside" <erwhites@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: VM1000 Fuel flow transducer mounting
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Eric Whiteside" <erwhites@bellsouth.net> On my flying rv6 the transducer is mounted on firewall with flex hose from pump -> transducer -> carb. Works fine. As long as you have straight in & out fittings on the transducer and no sharp bends in the hose that would create turbulence I think you are ok. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dwhite17@columbus.rr.com Subject: RV-List: VM1000 Fuel flow transducer mounting --> RV-List message posted by: <dwhite17@columbus.rr.com> Can anyone help with where they mounted their VM1000 Fuel Flow transducer? We are building an RV-6, with a Lycoming O-360-AIA engine. The instructions say to mount level, between the engine driven fuel pump and the carb, and allow at least 5" minimum straight length between. How does one do that?


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    Time: 04:41:20 PM PST US
    From: PSPRV6A@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Rising EGT with one fouled plug
    --> RV-List message posted by: PSPRV6A@aol.com With only one plug firing, the flame front has to travel more than twice as far to burn the fuel air charge. This means some of the combustion energy is liberated at a lower availability to be converted into useful work on the piston. Energy not extracted by the piston remains in the exhaust. Ideally, all of the combustion should be complete very shortly after top dead center. A shorted plug defeats that and combustion after TDC raises EGT. Pure thermodynamics! Paul S. Petersen, RV6A with son Eric, 90% finished


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    Time: 05:14:03 PM PST US
    From: Rick Galati <rick6a@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: VM1000 Fuel flow transducer mounting
    --> RV-List message posted by: Rick Galati <rick6a@yahoo.com> Bob, To maintain the installation requirements as called out by VM, specifically the correct transducer orientation and at least 5" of unbended line into the transducer from the fuel pump, I fabricated a type of shelf out of .040 right angle stock onto which the transducer is bolted and the assembly attached to the left firewall area with nutplates. I had to make up custom fuel hoses as the lengths are not exactly the cookie cutter variety included in Van's firewall forward kits. I just uploaded a close up detail shot of the installation and it can be accessed in my photo gallery section at http://www.rvaero.com/ The engine is an O-320-D1A. Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla"


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    Time: 07:26:04 PM PST US
    From: gert <gert.v@sbcglobal.net>
    rv-list <rv-list@matronics.com>
    Subject: IO-360 oilcooler
    --> RV-List message posted by: gert <gert.v@sbcglobal.net> Hi gang I am about to order a bunch of FWF parts from Van's, amongst them an oil cooler. Van's has 2 oilcoolers the Steward Warner and the Positech for the IO-360. any pro/cons/indifferences to either?? I searched the archives but it seems the results are ambigiuos, any results for the updated Positech?? Thanks Gert -- is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500


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    Time: 07:51:41 PM PST US
    From: Vanremog@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Should I or shouldn't I
    --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com In a message dated 4/16/2005 11:44:23 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, HCRV6@aol.com writes: Yeah, there is a little bit of fish tailing in moderate turbulence, but so what? I don't have any significant amount of time in a "V" tail Bonanza but I've always heard they do the same thing. ====================================== The Bonanza wags way more IMO than the infinitesimal tail wag of the RV-6A. When I first got in one of those V-tailed monsters (one with the throw over yoke), I thought we were wandering all over the sky. Not pleasant. The RV is wonderful as is with the small booty. GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 738hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)


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    Time: 07:51:41 PM PST US
    From: Vanremog@aol.com
    Subject: Re: confused about taxes
    --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com In a message dated 4/16/2005 11:45:21 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jochs@froody.org writes: I am getting ready to order the -10 kit and trying to make heads or tails of the California / Santa Clara County tax laws around aircraft, and specifically homebuilts ;) Does anyone have any resources that they can refer me to to get a plain English explanation of the rules? ========================================== CA state board of equalization has a pamphlet you can probably request on their website. i.e. since I'll be buying from a seller in Oregon, for California, do I pay the sales tax for each component of the kit as I buy it? Do I just pay use tax when I register it instead? ========================================== Use tax when you register it. Am I liable for property tax / use tax every year on the thing? ========================================== You will pay property tax in the county you hangar it. GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 738hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)


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    Time: 08:06:17 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
    Subject: Mag gear
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com> Wanted to buy: mag gear for IMPULSE COUPLED slick mag. I see emagair.com has one for $85, but it's the gear for the non-impulse. I'm looking for the coupled type gear at a similar price, or better. :) Any leads are appreciated.... Thanks, - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com Do not archive


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    Time: 11:15:13 PM PST US
    From: "Garth Shearing" <garth@islandnet.com>
    Subject: Re: Should I or shouldn't I
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Garth Shearing" <garth@islandnet.com> A small chunk of additional information. I was following a friend's RV6A in my VariEze one day and noticed his tail wagging. I asked him on the radio if he was doing that for my benefit and his answer was that it was a characteristic of the RV6 and that it is somewhat speed dependent. The small chunk is that it is plainly visible from another aircraft, so the wag at the tail must be at least a few inches. Garth Shearing VariEze and 90% RV6A Victoria BC Canada




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