RV-List Digest Archive

Tue 04/17/05


Total Messages Posted: 21



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:00 AM - Re: Tips for riveting LE ribs #13 and 14 to wing  (John Lawson)
     2. 04:11 AM - Re: Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues (Steve Glasgow)
     3. 05:23 AM - Re: Mag gear (sportav8r@aol.com)
     4. 05:55 AM - Re: Tips for riveting LE ribs #13 and 14 to wing spar? (GMC) (Bob Collins)
     5. 06:09 AM - Mounting Fuel Flow Transducer  (Emrath)
     6. 06:13 AM - Re: Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues (Darwin N. Barrie)
     7. 09:14 AM - Re: Should I or shouldn't I- vortex generators (Land Shorter)
     8. 11:21 AM - Re: confused about taxes (APPLIES TO MANY STATES) ()
     9. 12:22 PM - Wonky Altimeter (Kyle Boatright)
    10. 02:30 PM - Re: confused about taxes (APPLIES TO MANY STATES) ()
    11. 06:25 PM - RV-7 N3XG Flys High (LarryRobertHelming)
    12. 06:33 PM - Re:Landshorter Vortex generators (Louis Willig)
    13. 06:34 PM - Re: Wonky Altimeter (Jim Oke)
    14. 06:42 PM - RV6 chin scoop and Superior engine (Shirley Harding)
    15. 06:54 PM - Re: RV6 chin scoop and Superior engine (rgray67968@aol.com)
    16. 07:44 PM - Re: Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues (Tim Olson)
    17. 07:53 PM - Flight Planning (lyle)
    18. 08:05 PM - For Sale: MAC Servo (Ted Lumpkin)
    19. 08:28 PM - Re: Flight Planning (Allen)
    20. 08:39 PM - Re: Re:Landshorter Vortex generators (Land Shorter)
    21. 09:33 PM - [Please Read] Matronics Email Server Upgrade Complete! (Matt Dralle)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:00:53 AM PST US
    From: John Lawson <rv6builder48138@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Tips for riveting LE ribs #13 and 14 to wing
    --> RV-List message posted by: John Lawson <rv6builder48138@yahoo.com> Thanks to all who answered my question! A follow-up...one lister suggested blind rivets, and another suggested substituting bolts for the rivets. Has anyone else used them? Any suggestions on rivet and/or bolt diameters? John (RV-6) __________________________________ http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs


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    Time: 04:11:19 AM PST US
    From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com> Aerosport, Burt and his staff are truly top shelf. They built up my XP 360 and did an excellent job in all regards. As to Tax issues: Because Aerosport is in Canada, your engine will have to clear US Customs on it's return across the boarder. Customs has an agreement with and notifies all states if shipments across the border bound to individual states. Customs and its agreement is the problem not Aerosport. If your state picks up on the fact that it may be a new engine, then you may be charged sales tax by your state if you have not already paid them. If you can prove previous ownership and or payment of sales tax there is no problem. I know I had to pay around $1,400 sales tax on my engine. If I had it to do over again I would have paid the sales tax on the engine when it was in pieces from Superior rather than after completion. Like me you may not like it, but if you read the Tax Code for your state they are really entitled to the tax. Steve Glasgow


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    Time: 05:23:39 AM PST US
    From: sportav8r@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Mag gear
    --> RV-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com Bob Barrows probably has a drawer full of these in his shop; it's where I will start my search for the gear I will need for the 2nd E-mag (if I ever receive it). Getting the part yellow-tagged would be up to you ;-) We missed you at SnF. Clawed our way home through 25-30kt headwinds yesterday, but the chop wasn't all that bad. -Stormy -----Original Message----- From: Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com> Subject: RV-List: Mag gear --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com> Wanted to buy: mag gear for IMPULSE COUPLED slick mag. I see emagair.com has one for $85, but it's the gear for the non-impulse. I'm looking for the coupled type gear at a similar price, or better. :) Any leads are appreciated.... Thanks, - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com Do not archive


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    Time: 05:55:56 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Collins" <bcollins@visi.com>
    Subject: Re: Tips for riveting LE ribs #13 and 14 to wing spar? (GMC)
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" <bcollins@visi.com> // LE ribs and 470-4 When I've gotten into this pattern of being unable to make a decent rivet with 4's -- and I have -- I've always found the solution is to slow down...turn it down... Relax. I think driving rivets is like golf; it messes with your head and pretty soon you start anticipating a bad shot and...voila...you get a bad shot. It's as much confidence as it is technique and the goal right now is to set a good rivet and get some confidence back. If you're getting smileys, turn the gun pressure down so things are not bouncing around. Keep the bar and the gun on the work and use a couple of small "atta tats" to set your rivet, rather than just plowing ahead. Get yourself back in the mindeset of not moving stuff off the work. Once you let go of the trigger, count "one thouand one, one thousand two" and THEN remove your bucking bar and gun off the work. That'll help you get your timing back. For those leading edge rivets near the wing ribs...grind down an offset set so you can keep your gun straight. Now, using the offset set is a pain in the neck because it wants to flop around. You can try putting a little duct tape to keep it from doing so, but not much. On these rivets, it's not a terrible idea to get someone to work the gun, while you work the bucking bar. These rivets are difficult solo (by the way, you might want to consider pop rivets for these particular rivets. On the wing spar, with 4's, I can tell you (and you're under no obligation to accept this): live with the rivet you drive. I've rarely seen -- from personal experience -- where drilling out a rivet didn't cause a bigger problem.


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    Time: 06:09:07 AM PST US
    From: "Emrath" <emrath@comcast.net>
    Subject: Mounting Fuel Flow Transducer
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Emrath" <emrath@comcast.net> For those looking at how to mount the flow transducer (mine is the std Flowscan 201) I recently had discussed with EI who along with JPI have instructions for mounting the transducer on the web. In fact, Gary (I believe was his name) from EI called me to respond to my direct Email to EI. I'm using a FI system and he said to mount the transducer in the line from the Servo to the Distribution Spider on the top of the engine. Just mount it in the line, support the line no more than 8" away, wrap the device as shown in their instructions with FireSleeve (-24 size) and it should be good to go. So that is what I'm about to do. One can also mount this in the line from the pump to the carb the same way without having to mount the transducer on the Firewall. The EI representative said there doesn't have to be much in the way of a straight length before or after the transducer to get accurate readings. There was a discussion on the Lycoming groups list about this in February with Don at AFP contributing who also basically stated the above. YMMV Marty in Brentwood TN


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    Time: 06:13:14 AM PST US
    From: "Darwin N. Barrie" <ktlkrn@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Darwin N. Barrie" <ktlkrn@cox.net> I have talked to Aerosport and they are great people with a great reputation. I only want to make you aware of a couple of potential issues. This comes after my very negative experience with Crossflow Aero out of Canada. So bad in fact that a law suit will be filed next week after their failure to accept a very generous settlement offer. 1) I got nailed for $1500 in Customs fees many months after the initial delivery. 2) Also got nailed for $1300 in sales tax from the State of Arizona. Again nothing against Aerosport but there are plenty of US companies that have excellent engines. My choice is now ECI. All certified parts but at very competitive prices. They have been great to work with and you avoid all other potential issues. Just my thoughts. Darwin N. Barrie Chandler AZ


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    Time: 09:14:06 AM PST US
    From: Land Shorter <landshorter2@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Should I or shouldn't I- vortex generators
    --> RV-List message posted by: Land Shorter <landshorter2@yahoo.com> Hi Jerry and the RV-List gang, I sell VGs at a very affordable price ($95). Plus I offer a 100% money back guarantee. Why don't you give them a try and see for yourself? Most of my RV customers are noticing a 4-6 mph reduction in stall and better low speed handling. You can find more information on my website at www.landshorter.com or by giving me a call at 877-272-1414. Thanks. Joa www.landshorter.com Jerry Grimmonpre <jerry@mc.net> wrote: --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" John ... Would you mind telling ALL about your installed vortex generators. What improved, what changed, where you got them, what spacing, yada, yada. Thanx ... Jerry Grimmonpre Huntley, IL RV7A ---------------------------------


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    Time: 11:21:47 AM PST US
    From: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: confused about taxes (APPLIES TO MANY STATES)
    --> RV-List message posted by: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com> --> RV-List message posted by: "James Ochs" <jochs@froody.org> >i.e. since I'll be buying from a seller in Oregon, for California, do I pay >the sales tax for each component of the kit as I buy it? Do I just pay use >tax when I register it instead? Am I liable for property tax / use tax >every year on the thing? WARNING LUXERY TAX OR PERSONAL PEOPERTY TAX APPLIES TO *MANY* STATES, INCLUDING RV AIRPLANES, EVEN IF YOU BUILT IT! MOST IMPORTANT, when you finish your airplane the state you live in may have their hand out and want you to pay several thousand in TAXES. This is like buying anything, new car or TV, you will have to pay sales tax on it. KNOW YOUR STATES LOCAL TAX LAWS ON PERSONAL PEOPERTY / AIRCRAFT. For those building an RV and who have never have owned a plane in the state they live, may be in for a BIG UNPLEASENT SURPRISE. Some states have personal property or Luxury tax, which applies to boats & planes. Basically it is a ONE TIME SALES tax on the value or cost of the vehicle. Since cars and boats are often registered by the state it is easy for them to tax you. Airplanes being federally registered make it harder for them to collect, but they have ways of tracking you down and making you pay. Like all current "mail order" sales, the seller does not have to charge sales tax for out of state orders (yet). Van's (mail order) Aircraft does not collect state sales tax for other states. You may be liable down the road but not at the kit level (but check your local laws). When the kits become a vehicle they (state revenue dept) may have their hand out. (Varies state to state). BTW, Oregon is one of 5 states without sales tax. As far as paying tax on a kit I son't know how the state would even know. I would not volunteer to pay taxes on individual kits as you go. I would wait until you have finished building and registered the aircraft. However any taxes you pay along the way (avionics, parts, prop, engine) can be deduct from the final tax. So keep good records. How they (state tax-man) values an airplane you built from a kit is a whole other story and gets a little complicated. SAVE ALL RECIEPTS AND ANY SALES TAX YOU PAY ALONG THE WAY. It may be in your best interest to keep good cost records. Q: You might say, "I did not buy the plane I made it, so why do they want sales tax?" A: Well they do. Even if you can mail order parts and kits from out of state, free of tax, when you put it together and make a boat, plane or car out of those parts, the local tax-man may want a piece of the action. (check state laws) What if you build it and hide it in a hanger and never pay the tax? You can do that and you might get a way with it. If you fly of a private airstrip you might avoid detection? I am not saying you should avoid taxes, just that some states are not as tight on tracking down aircraft owners. How do they catch plane owners who don't pay? Well first they drive around airports and take N numbers down on the ramp or runway. They check the aircraft's registered address and owners address (from auto or pilots license records). Some states issue yearly stickers and they look for those. You might say you can register it out of state. You might as well as change your pilots license out of state too. You can try that, but they have ways of catching you. A famous case in WA State caught a Billionaire trying to avoid tax on his fleet of Jets. (This someone had something to do with Microsoft, not Bill). He had a fake company to hold his corporate jets in Oregon (no sales tax), although he flew them out of Seattle. They figured out what he was doing and he had to pay millions in tax. (He had many jets and a turbine floatplane). Not only where his planes registered in Oregon, they noticed when they went to his house his expensive cars had Oregon plates. So the out-of-state-re gister game may work for a small guy, however if the tax guy keeps seeing your plane at the same airport, for a long period, they will come knocking. What they can do if they catch you, besides collect the tax, I do not know? I recommend you pay your taxes, so you don't have to look over your shoulder all the time. Otherwise move to a state that does not tax airplanes. After the first one time big "sales" tax some states charge a small annual registration fee. In WA State the annual renewal of the sticker, was something like $20-$30. Most of the yearly registration fee went to the state aeronautical coffers for search and rescue, or that is what they said. The state troopers would check for stickers on planes at airports. You are not taxed annually; only the first time you register it. After that is is just the "sticker fee". What do other states like CA charge yearly? I do not know. If they were taxing you yearly I would move. Many states have become savvy with the kit planes. It used to be you could go in and say your plane is worth $8,000 in parts. They will say "Nope, isnt going to fly". They know what stuff cost and want receipts. Otherwise they may go on trade-a-plane or other "blue-book" type index. You have some leeway in valuing it, so use what is to your advantage. In Washington state there is an exemption on the books that the "the manufacture" does not have to pay tax. So Boeing does not have to pay tax on a B747 they build, the buyer does. (However the buyers fly to Canada and to "get the keys", avoiding sales tax.) You might say, "Hey, I am the manufacture," so I can write off the tax. You would be right in that you made it, but the revenue service in WA State says it does not apply to you, an amateur builder (manufacturer). It has been tried. Don't ask me how I know ;-) . The future is internet "mail order" sales is in question. Some states that would like to tax you on ALL "mail order" out of states purchase, regardless of what it is. That has not happened yet to my knowledge, but they are trying. Make sure your state is not trying this. Write your state Gov or vote accordingly. Fact is, regardless of sales tax, states with personal property tax on items like boats and planes will eventually want their money, whether you built it or bought it. I think awareness and working the tax laws in your favor, with in the law, is a wise thing to do. As far as a business expense? Good luck. Cheers George ---------------------------------


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    Time: 12:22:54 PM PST US
    From: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net>
    Subject: Wonky Altimeter
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net> I flew home from SnF this morning, and as I was entering the pattern at my home field, my eyeballs told me that I was lower than the altimeter was reading. Sure enough, I tapped on the instrument's glass face, and it more or less corrected itself. When I landed, the altimeter was off again (reading high again), so I rapped on the face, and it corrected to field level. Other than making sure there isn't a problem in the static system, is there anything else I can do other than pulling out the altimeter and sending it to a repair shop? Anyone got a recommendation for an altimeter repair shop in the Atlanta area? Thanks in advance, Kyle Boatright


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    Time: 02:30:53 PM PST US
    From: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: confused about taxes (APPLIES TO MANY STATES)
    --> RV-List message posted by: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com> For those who have owned many planes, this may be old news, but some builders may be first time aircraft owners and not aware of the tax liability. I wanted to add to my previous post this reference: http://www.sbw.org/tax/ I did not want to appear cavalier about taxation on your RV. What ever it is called: Luxury Tax, Use Tax, Personal Property Tax or Excise Tax, it is tax. I checked my state and a few others. All I can say is there are many variations. I am RV-less for now and way done on my RV-7 and have a 100% to go; You know what I mean. I am new to this state, and never owned an aircraft in this state before. Goggle: personal property tax+aircraft+(state) Try other names like: excise tax, use tax, luxury tax. BTW, Oregon which did not have tax on aircraft, is now considering Luxury tax on aircraft. Also failure to pay, if caught can be stiff and result in seizure of property. Again not to scare anyone, just wanted those new to aircraft ownership to know about aircraft taxation. I came across it by accident myself after buying my first aircraft. As far as exemption, historic and Airline (common carriage) get tax breaks. If you try the "I am the manufacture" and thus tax exempt, good luck, hope it works. The good news RVs are popular and have high resale. Unfortunately the bad news is due to their popularity and high resale value, tax will be much higher than other kit planes. Since many states will go on fair market value, regardless of what you have into it. $30,000 RVs of 15 years ago are now $80,000. At 1%-2.5% tax rate yearly, that can add up. Cheers George ---------------------------------


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    Time: 06:25:17 PM PST US
    From: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
    Subject: RV-7 N3XG Flys High
    --> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net> Pie ChartsToday another new RV-7 left the earthly bound of gravity for the first time. SunSeeker was flown first by RV-8 latch man Mike Zeller. Mike looked with a careful eye when I told him I thought it was ready for flight and asked him if he would do the honors. So the RV-8 Latch man checked about everything again that Kentucky-based DAR Pat Patterson had checked weeks ago when he awarded the plane its airworthiness certificate. Mike took the active runway and announced he was beginning a high speed taxi test. After 150 feet or so, and everything feeling real straight and solid, he said the plane just wanted to fly. With tail up it left the earth for the first time for a trip that would not end for1 hour. Mike flew the flight for the most part by feel and keeping his eyes outside the plane. He had lots of info available inside however to tell how things were going on the perfectly clear, low wind day that had the breeze mostly right down the runway. Occasionally he checked a Dynon flight indicator and an Advanced Flight Systems ACS2002 engine monitor and heard no annuciating warning messages from the monitor and Garmin 340 intercom.. These insturments confirmed what he felt about the flight that the Mattituck TMX-O360 engine running on one impulse slick mag and one Jeff Rose EI connected to a FP Sensenich prop were performing as expected. Mike maintained a near constant circling climb around the airport so he could see over the top cowling comfortably and did watch the CHT for a new engine break in. He leveled off at 10,500 and noted that pressures and temps were ok. The left wing was a bit heavy but it flies straight otherwise. The Garmin 430 GPS reported speeds in the 170 kts without wheelpants and landing gear leg fairings in level flight. There are lots of people to thank in the completion of the plane. I hope I don't forget anyone there are so many. Thanks to the local EAA21 club and the many members who have helped with this slow build project that took just at 4 years. Special thanks go to my wife Karen, noted EAA21 members John Crabtree, Vince Frazier, Earl Schroeder, Keith Schlagater, Steve Eberhart, Bill Majors, Jim Hall, Don Taylor, and everyone else that know they helped and I am too short on words to properly acknowledge. One such person is Bill Brooks who helped just about every Friday for the last three years. Without his help, I would still be bucking rivets. Also I got encouragement and ideas from Dan Overall although he could not convert me away from the TMX-O360 engine. And also David Lowe for being my tailwheel CFI. David operates out of his private strip in Sacramento, Kentucky. And John Crabtree will provide me transition training in his RV6 as I step up to this hot rod from the Cessna 140. I am looking forward to commanding SunSeeker in the near future. This feeling is about a good as it gets without it being illegal or immoral. I can not imagine how it can be much better behind the stick, but I am sure it will be. So,,,,,for all you guys who are headed in the same direction, my advice just take it one day at a time. Keep in good with your family and never forget that I listed my wife first as one of my greatest helpers although she bucked only a few rivets just to see what it was like. For the knowledge of it all is why I did it -- not the thrill. What a project!! Friends are like angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly....unknown Indiana Larry, RV7 Tip Up, SunSeeker


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    Time: 06:33:52 PM PST US
    From: Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re:Landshorter Vortex generators
    --> RV-List message posted by: Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net> At 12:10 PM 4/17/2005, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Land Shorter <landshorter2@yahoo.com> > >Hi Jerry and the RV-List gang, > >I sell VGs at a very affordable price ($95). Plus I offer a 100% money >back guarantee. Why don't you give them a try and see for yourself? > >Most of my RV customers are noticing a 4-6 mph reduction in stall and >better low speed handling. > >You can find more information on my website at www.landshorter.com or by >giving me a call at 877-272-1414. > >Thanks. > >Joa Joa, Your web site has no remarks or testimonials on the use of VG's on the RV series of aircraft. I see no reason why they wouldn't improve the slow speed handling of the RV wing, BUT why don't you supply one of us (not me) with a set of VG's and instructions. You might find that you won't be able to keep up with production. The only resistance you will find is that they can't be removed without removing the paint. If you overcome this problem, everyone will be a potential customer. I would gladly try them out. If I was unhappy with them, I wouldn't ask for my money back. I'd just remove them.


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    Time: 06:34:28 PM PST US
    From: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Wonky Altimeter
    --> RV-List message posted by: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca> Kyle; Any chance of water accumulating at a low point in the static system? This could be rain in flight but more likely rain dripping down the side and entering the static ports when parked or perhaps a wash job with a pressure hose. Climbing and descending with a blob of water in the lines will cause some interesting surges in pressure with resulting jumps in altimeter readings. (Avoiding water entry is a good reason to run the line joining the two ports to a tee-fitting at the top of the fuselage, like Vans plans show. Guess who didn't and who found out the 'interesting' way on an RV-3.) OTOH, simply tapping the instrument is not likely to correct a water blockage, so it way well be off to the instrument shop with your sticky altimeter. A quick puff of air in the main static line from an air gun or similar might be worth a try - watch for any water emerging from the static ports - and won't cost much. Needless to say, make sure that all your other instruments using static pressure are disconnected first or a blast from an air hose could be quite costly ! Jim Oke RV-3, RV-6A Wpg., MB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net> Subject: RV-List: Wonky Altimeter > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net> > > I flew home from SnF this morning, and as I was entering the pattern at my > home field, my eyeballs told me that I was lower than the altimeter was > reading. Sure enough, I tapped on the instrument's glass face, and it > more or less corrected itself. When I landed, the altimeter was off again > (reading high again), so I rapped on the face, and it corrected to field > level. > > Other than making sure there isn't a problem in the static system, is > there anything else I can do other than pulling out the altimeter and > sending it to a repair shop? > > Anyone got a recommendation for an altimeter repair shop in the Atlanta > area? > > Thanks in advance, > > Kyle Boatright > > >


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    Time: 06:42:02 PM PST US
    From: "Shirley Harding" <shirleyh@argo.net.au>
    Subject: RV6 chin scoop and Superior engine
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Shirley Harding" <shirleyh@argo.net.au> Hi guys , I originally ordered the 0320 size chin scoop for my RV6 (5 years ago ) but then have subsequently put an O360 engine in. It is a Superior 0360 engine with a carby (Precision Airmotive M-4-5). As you can imagine the O320 scoop doesn't fit. A reply from Vans states that they have not seen a Superior engine but believe if the dimensions are indeed the same as the Lycoming - that their O360 chin scoop should fit it OK. Anybody out there with the same problem or any advice? Thank you Shirley Harding RV6 QB Perth, Australia


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    Time: 06:54:04 PM PST US
    From: rgray67968@aol.com
    Subject: Re: RV6 chin scoop and Superior engine
    --> RV-List message posted by: rgray67968@aol.com I swapped my old O-320 scoop with Van's for the O-360 scoop a few years back....no charge. Just what the doctor ordered for the Precision Carb. Rick Gray in Ohio at the Buffalo Farm do not archive -----Original Message----- From: Shirley Harding <shirleyh@argo.net.au> Subject: RV-List: RV6 chin scoop and Superior engine --> RV-List message posted by: "Shirley Harding" <shirleyh@argo.net.au> Hi guys , I originally ordered the 0320 size chin scoop for my RV6 (5 years ago ) but then have subsequently put an O360 engine in. It is a Superior 0360 engine with a carby (Precision Airmotive M-4-5). As you can imagine the O320 scoop doesn't fit. A reply from Vans states that they have not seen a Superior engine but believe if the dimensions are indeed the same as the Lycoming - that their O360 chin scoop should fit it OK. Anybody out there with the same problem or any advice? Thank you Shirley Harding RV6 QB Perth, Australia


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    Time: 07:44:36 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues
    --> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Thanks everyone, so far, for the replies to my question about engines from AeroSport. It does sound like they have a good reputation. I am a bit confused though, especially after Darwin's post here. As far as taxes, I'm not worried about that. I know that either way I'll be paying the use tax on the plane when I go to register it, so the State of Wisconsin will get their tax one way or the other. I see that some said shipping was less to have it shipped from Aerosport than similar packages shipped from closer and within the US. I'll have to check this out. I see that some said they had small "brokerage fees". No big deal, since it sounds like they were small. The big confusion though is this $1500 "Customs Fee" that Darwin mentions....what's that all about? Was that actually a fee for going through customs? I didn't think there were any fees other than shipping and brokerage (other than tax). So now I'm happy that the engines would be pretty good, but these additional fees are still making me apprehensive. I've got a US supplier that can supply the same engine with ECI Titan cylinders, for probably $2000 less money. The 2 catches are that A) The original cores come from Africa and from turbocharged planes (ss-s-s-scary), and B) They talk of roller lifters like they are something voodoo. I thought that roller lifters were not only a good idea, but something that was now a good and recent product that could help my engine's longevity. Thanks again guys, I'm getting closer. Tim - RV-10 #170 DO NOT ARCHIVE Darwin N. Barrie wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Darwin N. Barrie" <ktlkrn@cox.net> > > I have talked to Aerosport and they are great people with a great > reputation. I only want to make you aware of a couple of potential > issues. > > This comes after my very negative experience with Crossflow Aero out > of Canada. So bad in fact that a law suit will be filed next week > after their failure to accept a very generous settlement offer. > > 1) I got nailed for $1500 in Customs fees many months after the > initial delivery. > > 2) Also got nailed for $1300 in sales tax from the State of Arizona. > > Again nothing against Aerosport but there are plenty of US companies > that have excellent engines. My choice is now ECI. All certified > parts but at very competitive prices. They have been great to work > with and you avoid all other potential issues. > > Just my thoughts. > > Darwin N. Barrie Chandler AZ >


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    Time: 07:53:50 PM PST US
    From: "lyle" <lyleedda@telus.net>
    Subject: Flight Planning
    --> RV-List message posted by: "lyle" <lyleedda@telus.net> Hi Listers, Anybody know of a program for flight plans that can run on Windows XP ? Is there such a thing out there which is downloadable ? , or is there a product to purchase ? Thanks, Austin T. Vancouver do not archive


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    Time: 08:05:52 PM PST US
    From: Ted Lumpkin <tlump51@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: For Sale: MAC Servo
    --> RV-List message posted by: Ted Lumpkin <tlump51@sbcglobal.net> I've decided not to put aileron trim on my RV-4. I have a barely used MAC 8A servo for sale. I purchased this a few years ago. I have only powered it to run it back and forth and check the travel a couple times. The servo harness is terminated with a Molex-style 6 pin connector. It includes a 9 1/2" long threaded push rod and clevises. MAC was purchased by the Ray Allen Co.(RAC - http://www.rayallencompany.com/products/servos.html). This servo is the same as the Ray Allen T3-12A and has 1.2" of travel. This servo lists for $172 from Ray Allen Co. I'll sell it for $60 + shipping. E-mail me off list is you're interested. Pictures available. Ted do not archive


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    Time: 08:28:31 PM PST US
    From: "Allen" <ajdubers@comcast.net>
    Subject: Flight Planning
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Allen" <ajdubers@comcast.net> I've been using Flightsoft for years...It's from RMS in Molalla Oregon. They keep improving it and they are very good people to deal with. Allen Duberstein N5AD -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of lyle Subject: RV-List: Flight Planning --> RV-List message posted by: "lyle" <lyleedda@telus.net> Hi Listers, Anybody know of a program for flight plans that can run on Windows XP ? Is there such a thing out there which is downloadable ? , or is there a product to purchase ? Thanks, Austin T. Vancouver do not archive


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    Time: 08:39:52 PM PST US
    From: Land Shorter <landshorter2@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re:Landshorter Vortex generators
    --> RV-List message posted by: Land Shorter <landshorter2@yahoo.com> Hi Louis, I need to update my testimonials, just need to find the time first :) Most folks are putting the VGs on with double-stick tape to try them out. If you're careful when taking them off (and follow my directions included with the VGs) you usually won't have any problems with any of the paint coming off. Joa www.landshorter.com +++++++++++++ The only resistance you will find is that they can't be removed without removing the paint. If you overcome this problem, everyone will be a potential customer. I would gladly try them out. If I was unhappy with them, I wouldn't ask for my money back. I'd just remove them. ---------------------------------


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    Time: 09:33:59 PM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: [Please Read] Matronics Email Server Upgrade Complete!
    --> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> 9:24pm PDT 4/17/2005 Dear Listers, The upgrade of the Matronics Email Server can be considered complete at this time. All known issues related to the upgrade process have been resolved and email services are running normal. The Nightly Digest processing has not yet been tested and will wait for tonight's update. If you encounter any odd behavior with respect to the Matronics Email Server over the next few days, please contact me via email at dralle@matronics.com or if that fails try dralle@speakeasy.net. Thanks to everyone for being patient through this arduous process of a major system upgrade! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator At 12:37 PM 4/16/2005 Saturday, Matt Dralle wrote: >Dear Listers, > >I will be upgrading the Matronics Email Server this weekend. This >includes some hardware improvements - more memory, faster, more capable >processors - as well as a complete operating system upgrade from >scratch. I hope to have both the old system and the new system running at >the same time to minimize the actual impact of the upgrade. > >Hopefully there will be little actual downtime during the transition, but >a few posts may get lost in the shuffle. If you don't see your post show >up on the List in the normal amount of time (plus a little bit), then >please just try posting it again. > >Upgrading the Matronics Email Server operating system (from Redhat Linux >7.2 to Redhat Linux WS 4) is a sizeable undertaking and requires a great >deal of work to port all of the utilities, programs, and scripts over to >the new system. As I've already mentioned, both the old and new systems >will be on line at the same time, so interruption should be held to an >absolute minimal. You might see a couple of odd test messages during the >cut-over or other odd messages; please just ignore them. > >I have setup a new System Status Web Page that I will use to update List >Members on the current status of the email and web systems. Please refer >to it as often as you like: > > http://www.matronics.com/SystemStatus/ > > >Thank you for your continued support of the List Services at >Matronics! Its your yearly Contributions that make these major upgrades >possible! > >Best regards, > >Matt Dralle >Matronics Email List Administrator Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft




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