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1. 02:05 AM - Re: wheel pants bracket (Tom & Cathy Ervin)
2. 06:57 AM - Hanger needed in Dallas Area (rebibb@comcast.net)
3. 07:01 AM - Re: wheel pants bracket (John Furey)
4. 07:10 AM - Re: wheel pants bracket (John Furey)
5. 08:30 AM - RV vs Rocket (Frazier, Vincent A)
6. 08:53 AM - Re: RV vs Rocket (Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club)
7. 08:59 AM - Re: Air Box (sportav8r@aol.com)
8. 09:37 AM - Re: RV vs Rocket (Walter Tondu)
9. 10:07 AM - Re: RV vs Rocket (PILOT8127@aol.com)
10. 10:10 AM - Re: RV vs Rocket (Jeff Dowling)
11. 11:23 AM - Re: Scottsdale / Phoenix (Chuck Weyant)
12. 11:29 AM - Re: RV vs Rocket (JOHN STARN)
13. 12:01 PM - Experimental O360 for sale (Ken Dominy)
14. 12:20 PM - Re: RV vs Rocket (Tracy Crook)
15. 12:57 PM - oil cooling methods (rv6fly)
16. 01:01 PM - Closing VS and HS tips (DAVID REEL)
17. 02:39 PM - Fw: I have a Sky-Tec starter for sale (Ralph E. Capen)
18. 03:19 PM - Re: RV vs Rocket (Mickey Coggins)
19. 03:29 PM - Re: RV vs Rocket (Mickey Coggins)
20. 03:30 PM - Re: Fw: I have a Sky-Tec starter for sale (Aircraft Technical Book Company)
21. 04:00 PM - Re: RV vs Rocket (JOHN STARN)
22. 04:03 PM - Re: oil cooling methods (Jeff Dowling)
23. 04:12 PM - Lightening Holes on the Vertical Stab Spar, HS rivet opinions? (MLWynn@aol.com)
24. 04:25 PM - Re: oil cooling methods (Kyle Boatright)
25. 04:32 PM - Re: RV vs Rocket (Jeff Dowling)
26. 04:36 PM - Re: Fw: I have a Sky-Tec starter for sale (Dan Checkoway)
27. 04:43 PM - Archer Wingtip Antenna (Vincent Welch)
28. 04:45 PM - Re: Lightening Holes on the Vertical Stab Spar, HS rivet ()
29. 04:52 PM - Re: Lightening Holes on the Vertical Stab Spar, HS rivet opinions? (Dan Checkoway)
30. 05:14 PM - Re: RV vs Rocket (Bruce Gray)
31. 05:16 PM - Re: Lightening Holes on the Vertical Stab Spar, HS rivet opinions? (Rob Prior (rv7))
32. 05:23 PM - Re: RV vs Rocket (WFACT01@aol.com)
33. 05:24 PM - Re: wheel pants bracket (Tom & Cathy Ervin)
34. 05:36 PM - Re: Archer Wingtip Antenna (Dan Checkoway)
35. 05:38 PM - Re: RV vs Rocket (JOHN STARN)
36. 05:58 PM - Re: Air Box (John Furey)
37. 06:01 PM - RV vs Rocket ()
38. 06:07 PM - Re: Fw: I have a Sky-Tec starter for sale (Jeff Point)
39. 06:09 PM - Re: Archer Wingtip Antenna (Jeff Point)
40. 06:17 PM - Re: RV vs Rocket (Jerry Springer)
41. 06:20 PM - Re: Fw: I have a Sky-Tec starter for sale (Tim Olson)
42. 06:25 PM - Re: Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues (Tim Olson)
43. 06:47 PM - Re: Archer Wingtip Antenna (Richard Sipp)
44. 07:28 PM - Re: Archer Wingtip Antenna (RV6 Flyer)
45. 08:39 PM - Edmonton RVators (Roger Embree)
46. 09:42 PM - Re: Lightening Holes on the Vertical Stab Spar, HS rivet opinions? (MLWynn@aol.com)
47. 10:22 PM - Re: Lightening Holes on the Vertical Stab Spar, HS rivet opinions? (Dan Checkoway)
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| Subject: | Re: wheel pants bracket |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net>
John, Got them for mine from attawayair.com.....easy to install with no
modifications. If you need a set while waiting for your order my never
installed aluminum are available for FREE.
Tom in Ohio (10G)
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Furey" <john@fureychrysler.com>
Subject: RV-List: wheel pants bracket
> --> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" <john@fureychrysler.com>
>
> Can anyone tell me where to get stainless steel wheel pant brackets for my
> RV6A main gears?
>
> Thanks
> John
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Hanger needed in Dallas Area |
--> RV-List message posted by: rebibb@comcast.net
DO NOT ARCHIVE
I'm looking at a possible move to Texas and need to find out about hanger options.
I'll probably live in the Carrolton/Addison/Plano area and need a hanger
that can handle a T6.
What, if anything, is available for rent and/or purchase in that area.
Oh yeah, its also going to house my RV-4 that is being nursed back to health.
reply off list to rebibb@comcast.net
Richard
DO NOT ARCHIVE
I'm looking at a possible move to Texas and need to find out about hanger options.
I'll probably live in the Carrolton/Addison/Plano area and need a hanger that
can handle a T6.
What, if anything, is available for rent and/or purchase in that area.
Oh yeah, its also going to house my RV-4 that is being nursed back to health.
reply off list to rebibb@comcast.net
Richard
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| Subject: | wheel pants bracket |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" <john@fureychrysler.com>
Thanks for the generous offer Tom. I put a patch on the old one that should
hold for quite a while. How is the plane coming?
jf
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| Subject: | wheel pants bracket |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" <john@fureychrysler.com>
Thanks Rick, My plane is falling apart. I thought helicopters were high
maintance... while I had the cowl off I did a comp check, new plugs, fix the
air box, patched fairing bracket, etc. should make the annual a snap in
June. Hope to have it ready to fly tonight.
jf
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
SNIP People can say what they want
about how great an RV flies, that is until they experience a rocket.
Its not just about the horsepower. They fly as beautifully as they
look.
Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying 600+ hours F1 under const.
SNIP
Bob is right. Man, I LOVED my RV-4. It ruined me from ever being happy
in any production plane that I ever flew afterwards.
But what about the Rocket? Well, I still like to fly RVs, but given a
choice..... the Rocket wins.
Let me explain: Flying RVs is like spending the night with Jennifer
Aniston. Flying the Rocket is like spending the night with Jennifer
Aniston, Cindy Crawford, Sandra Bullock, and 12 Victoria's Secret
models... and they're fighting over who gets you next.
Vince
F-1H Rocket, N540VF
http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/page1.html
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| Subject: | Re: RV vs Rocket |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
Frazier, Vincent A wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
>
>SNIP People can say what they want
>about how great an RV flies, that is until they experience a rocket.
>Its not just about the horsepower. They fly as beautifully as they
>look.
>
>Regards,
>Bob Japundza
>RV-6 flying 600+ hours F1 under const.
>SNIP
>
>Bob is right. Man, I LOVED my RV-4. It ruined me from ever being happy
>in any production plane that I ever flew afterwards.
>
>But what about the Rocket? Well, I still like to fly RVs, but given a
>choice..... the Rocket wins.
>
>Let me explain: Flying RVs is like spending the night with Jennifer
>Aniston. Flying the Rocket is like spending the night with Jennifer
>Aniston, Cindy Crawford, Sandra Bullock, and 12 Victoria's Secret
>models... and they're fighting over who gets you next.
>
>Vince
>F-1H Rocket, N540VF
>http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/page1.html
>
>
And then there is the S1S Pitt's. It's like spending a weekend with
Joan Collins back when she was 25 years old.....
Do not archive
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
I'll give that a try next time I'm uncowled. Using this modification, does the
nose gear leg fairing have to be removed for clearance when removing the airbox?
-Stormy
-----Original Message-----
From: John Furey <john@fureychrysler.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Air Box
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" <john@fureychrysler.com>
Yes, The O-360 needed an indentation in the air box. I just heated the
fiberglass and pushed a round pipe into it until it cooled. The O-320 did
not need this.
John
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| Subject: | Re: RV vs Rocket |
--> RV-List message posted by: Walter Tondu <walter@tondu.com>
On 04/21 10:55, Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
>
> Frazier, Vincent A wrote:
>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
> >
> >SNIP People can say what they want
> >about how great an RV flies, that is until they experience a rocket.
> >Its not just about the horsepower. They fly as beautifully as they
> >look.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Bob Japundza
> >RV-6 flying 600+ hours F1 under const.
> >SNIP
> >
> >Bob is right. Man, I LOVED my RV-4. It ruined me from ever being happy
> >in any production plane that I ever flew afterwards.
> >
> >But what about the Rocket? Well, I still like to fly RVs, but given a
> >choice..... the Rocket wins.
> >
> >Let me explain: Flying RVs is like spending the night with Jennifer
> >Aniston. Flying the Rocket is like spending the night with Jennifer
> >Aniston, Cindy Crawford, Sandra Bullock, and 12 Victoria's Secret
> >models... and they're fighting over who gets you next.
> >
> >Vince
> >F-1H Rocket, N540VF
> >http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/page1.html
> >
> >
> And then there is the S1S Pitt's. It's like spending a weekend with
> Joan Collins back when she was 25 years old.....
Cessna 206 == Rosanne Barr ???
> Do not archive
>
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
--
Walter Tondu
http://www.rv7-a.com
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| Subject: | Re: RV vs Rocket |
--> RV-List message posted by: PILOT8127@aol.com
I gotta get me a F-1 rocket!
Talk about girls.............................
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| Subject: | Re: RV vs Rocket |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
Whatever happened to the F-2 rocket? I agree a rocket would be better than
an rv if only there was a side by side option. Oh well, maybe next year.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
Subject: RV-List: RV vs Rocket
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
>
> SNIP People can say what they want
> about how great an RV flies, that is until they experience a rocket.
> Its not just about the horsepower. They fly as beautifully as they
> look.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Japundza
> RV-6 flying 600+ hours F1 under const.
> SNIP
>
> Bob is right. Man, I LOVED my RV-4. It ruined me from ever being happy
> in any production plane that I ever flew afterwards.
>
> But what about the Rocket? Well, I still like to fly RVs, but given a
> choice..... the Rocket wins.
>
> Let me explain: Flying RVs is like spending the night with Jennifer
> Aniston. Flying the Rocket is like spending the night with Jennifer
> Aniston, Cindy Crawford, Sandra Bullock, and 12 Victoria's Secret
> models... and they're fighting over who gets you next.
>
> Vince
> F-1H Rocket, N540VF
> http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/page1.html
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Scottsdale / Phoenix |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Weyant" <cweyant@chuckdirect.com>
What's the matter with responding on line? I'd like to know too.
Chuck
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Schaefer" <dschaefer1@kc.rr.com>
Subject: RV-List: Scottsdale / Phoenix
> --> RV-List message posted by: "David Schaefer" <dschaefer1@kc.rr.com>
>
> I'm looking at possibly moving into the Scottsdale / Phoenix area and
would
> like some advice from fellow RV pilots in the area about where to live,
> airports to base at, hangers, aviation communities etc. Please respond
> off-line.
>
> Regards,
>
> David Schaefer
> RV-6A N142DS "Geek One"
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV vs Rocket |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
I've heard both a C-206 and Rosanne sing. Rosanne sounds more like a wood
chipper and C-206 sounds great, has class & looks a whole better too.
Rosanne Barr....that night would not be memorable just "unable to forget" no
matter how many trips to the shrink. 8*) KABONG
>
> Cessna 206 == Rosanne Barr ???
>
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Experimental O360 for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Dominy" <abqmooney@excite.com>
I have a new Penn Yan XE 360 with Slick Mags, forward cold air induction, and
Precision fuel injection for sale. On pallet as delivered to me $20K. Please
reply personally to me at abqmooney@excite.com if interested for more details.
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| Subject: | Re: RV vs Rocket |
Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 15:16:52 -0400
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
The F-2 is a super airplane but am I the only one who likes airplanes that can
both 'float like a butterfly AND sting like a bee'? I wanted the power of a Rocket
with the power off sink rate of a really light RV-4. My answer was an RV-8
with a 300 HP rotary with the wings extended 1 foot on each side and RV-7/Rocket
wingtips. Won't keep up with an F-2 on top speed but wanna' compare ROC?
: )
Tracy Crook
RV-4 13B Renesis, 1500+ Hrs
RV-8 20B Flying "real soon now"
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net<mailto:shempdowling2@earthlink.net>>
Whatever happened to the F-2 rocket? I agree a rocket would be better than
an rv if only there was a side by side option. Oh well, maybe next year.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu<mailto:VFrazier@usi.edu>>
To: <rv-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>>
Subject: RV-List: RV vs Rocket
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu<mailto:VFrazier@usi.edu>>
>
> SNIP People can say what they want
> about how great an RV flies, that is until they experience a rocket.
> Its not just about the horsepower. They fly as beautifully as they
> look.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Japundza
> RV-6 flying 600+ hours F1 under const.
> SNIP
>
> Bob is right. Man, I LOVED my RV-4. It ruined me from ever being happy
> in any production plane that I ever flew afterwards.
>
> But what about the Rocket? Well, I still like to fly RVs, but given a
> choice..... the Rocket wins.
>
> Let me explain: Flying RVs is like spending the night with Jennifer
> Aniston. Flying the Rocket is like spending the night with Jennifer
> Aniston, Cindy Crawford, Sandra Bullock, and 12 Victoria's Secret
> models... and they're fighting over who gets you next.
>
> Vince
> F-1H Rocket, N540VF
> http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/page1.html<http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/page1.html>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | oil cooling methods |
--> RV-List message posted by: rv6fly <rv6fly@bresnan.net>
My friend's (Larry), 6A has a firewall mounted oil cooler. I imagine
the standard source of cool air for the cooler would be SCAT tubing from
the baffle behind cylinder #4. Years ago while helping with another 6A
I toyed with the idea of taking the cooling air from a NACA vent on the
left side of the cowl with the idea of keeping all of the air coming in
the cowl inlet for cylinder cooling instead of bleeding off air behind
#4 for the oil cooler. The downside would be having to undo a clamp
before being able to drop the bottom cowl.
As a lot of my RV knowledge is not up to date, I thought I'd check
current thingking on this.
Also, what's the latest on mechanical fuel pump cooling and alternator
cooling both of which I did when I built my 6.
Bob Skinner
--
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| Subject: | Closing VS and HS tips |
--> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
Although the instructions say it's OK to leave the vertical stabilizer and horizontal
stabilizer tips open, I'm wondering if anyone who stores their airplane
outside on a tie-down as I plan to do has wished they closed the tips for any
reason. Water entry and critter nests come to mind.
Dave Reel - RV8A
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| Subject: | Fw: I have a Sky-Tec starter for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
If anyone needs a starter.......IIRC it's from an O360....
-----Forwarded Message-----
From: James Redmon <james@berkut13.com>
Subject: I have a Sky-Tec starter for sale
I have a starter in need of a good home if you know someone that might need
it. Fresh from the factory - 0-time.
Ebay item number: 4544864662
Please post on the RV groups lists if you feel that they might benefit too.
Thanks,
James Redmon
Berkut #013 N97TX
http://www.berkut13.com
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| Subject: | Re: RV vs Rocket |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> ... My answer was an RV-8 with a 300 HP rotary with the
> wings extended 1 foot on each side and RV-7/Rocket wingtips. ...
Sounds very interesting. Did you do anything to beef up the
spar, or are you planning on reducing the aerobatic limits?
What's the difference between the RV7 wingtips and the RV8
wingtips?
Thanks,
Mickey
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 Wiring
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| Subject: | Re: RV vs Rocket |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> Let me explain: Flying RVs is like spending the night with Jennifer
> Aniston. Flying the Rocket is like spending the night with Jennifer
> Aniston, Cindy Crawford, Sandra Bullock, and 12 Victoria's Secret
> models... and they're fighting over who gets you next.
>
Phew. Glad I went with the RV8 - I'd only have enough energy
for one of those super-chicks at a time.
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 Wiring
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: I have a Sky-Tec starter for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com>
Why aren't you using it? I remember reading once that Skytec starters and
Lightspeed Electronic ignition systems had compatibility problems. I don't
remember why this was the case or if the problem was or is easily resolved.
Anybody have a Skytec and a Lightspeed who can attest to its performance?
Andy
Builder's Bookstore
www.buildersbooks.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
Subject: RV-List: Fw: I have a Sky-Tec starter for sale
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
>
> If anyone needs a starter.......IIRC it's from an O360....
>
> -----Forwarded Message-----
> From: James Redmon <james@berkut13.com>
> To: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
> Subject: I have a Sky-Tec starter for sale
>
> I have a starter in need of a good home if you know someone that might
> need
> it. Fresh from the factory - 0-time.
>
> Ebay item number: 4544864662
>
> Please post on the RV groups lists if you feel that they might benefit
> too.
>
> Thanks,
>
> James Redmon
> Berkut #013 N97TX
> http://www.berkut13.com
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV vs Rocket |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Thought we were talking about a "ROCKET" not an F-2. As to "Rate Of Climb"
(ROC). HRII N561FS is reported to be only 250 HP. (Slowest HRII we know of)
When you get it flying come on by APV and we'll try to out climb your
MMMMMM. Will even pay for breakfast/lunch afterward. N561FS can climb out at
a 45 degree angle AND be at pattern altitude at the APV 18/36 runway
midpoint. We (two on board, 500# plus) tried a full power, no flap stall
with the nose 30 degree high, still climbing at better than 1,000 fpm thru
14,700' when the 23 gallons per hour burn was just more than Tom (Gummibear)
could stand. No oxygen so we came back down. OK...OK so we were setting AOA
limits and ONLY went past 10,000' (14,700 just sounds better & I've told
this story before) and were not slowing down AND we were closer to a 45
degree BUT that makes it sound like we're bragging. Think there is an old
axiom "it aint bragging if'en ya'll can to it". We done dude it. 8*)
KABONG Do Not Archive (We share our hanger with a motoglider if you like
"float")
Subject: Re: RV-List: RV vs Rocket
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
>
> The F-2 is a super airplane but am I the only one who likes airplanes that
> can both 'float like a butterfly AND sting like a bee'? I wanted the
> power of a Rocket with the power off sink rate of a really light RV-4. My
> answer was an RV-8 with a 300 HP rotary with the wings extended 1 foot on
> each side and RV-7/Rocket wingtips. Won't keep up with an F-2 on top
> speed but wanna' compare ROC? : )
>
> Tracy Crook
> RV-4 13B Renesis, 1500+ Hrs
> RV-8 20B Flying "real soon now"
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| Subject: | Re: oil cooling methods |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
O-320's seem to cool just fine with the any oil cooler/mounting location.
Its the IO-360's that seem to cause the most problems. I should know, I've
been working on mine a lot. I have a 10 row behind #4 and it still has a
tough time keeping up. I had a 7 row on the firewall that didnt work. In
hind sight, I would have done the naca duct right from the start but you
never know if you're going to have trouble until your flying.
Shemp/Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
165 hours
Chicago/Louisville
----- Original Message -----
From: "rv6fly" <rv6fly@bresnan.net>
Subject: RV-List: oil cooling methods
> --> RV-List message posted by: rv6fly <rv6fly@bresnan.net>
>
> My friend's (Larry), 6A has a firewall mounted oil cooler. I imagine
> the standard source of cool air for the cooler would be SCAT tubing from
> the baffle behind cylinder #4. Years ago while helping with another 6A
> I toyed with the idea of taking the cooling air from a NACA vent on the
> left side of the cowl with the idea of keeping all of the air coming in
> the cowl inlet for cylinder cooling instead of bleeding off air behind
> #4 for the oil cooler. The downside would be having to undo a clamp
> before being able to drop the bottom cowl.
> As a lot of my RV knowledge is not up to date, I thought I'd check
> current thingking on this.
> Also, what's the latest on mechanical fuel pump cooling and alternator
> cooling both of which I did when I built my 6.
>
> Bob Skinner
>
>
> --
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Lightening Holes on the Vertical Stab Spar, HS rivet opinions? |
--> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
Hi all,
I am starting work on the vertical stab spar. They describe "optional"
lightening holes in the spar reinforcing piece. It doesn't look to me like this
would be a significant weight savings, although it is at the end of a very
long moment arm. What are most people doing with this?
I am awaiting an inspection by my friend EAA tech counselor this weekend to
look at my horizontal stabilizer. It is almost perfect except for a couple
of small issues. There are a few small scratches in the primer from bucking
rivets. Do most of you go back and touch those up? I have one rivet that is
just slightly proud. I am unsure if taking it out will improve things or
make them worse. Will see what the tech counselor thinks.
The one I am most worried about is a rivet that holds the front inner rib to
the from spar reinforcement. My first rivet got bent going in. I drilled
it out from the wrong side (shop head) and got a little way into the spar
reinforcement bar. I re-riveted it with the same -4 rivet. You can see a small
defect from my over drilling. I was considering the following options:
1. Leave it--put in some primer around it.
2. Drill it out and go with a larger size rivet
3. Drill it out and put in a small 3/16 bolt.
Since the hole only goes about 1/3 of the thickness of the spar
reinforcement, I thought it might be okay to leave. I will see what the tech
counselor
thinks. Opinions here?
Regards,
Michael Wynn
RV8 Empennage
San Ramon, CA
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| Subject: | Re: oil cooling methods |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net>
Another issue seems to be engine time. The oil temperatures on my 0-320
were higher than I wanted for the first 150 hours, but there was a definite
decrease over time. Some of the decrease is attributable to modifications I
made, but I'd wager that a meaningful amount of the decrease was because the
engine finally broke itself in completely.
Just a theory, mind you...
KB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: oil cooling methods
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling"
> <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
>
> O-320's seem to cool just fine with the any oil cooler/mounting location.
> Its the IO-360's that seem to cause the most problems. I should know,
> I've
> been working on mine a lot. I have a 10 row behind #4 and it still has a
> tough time keeping up. I had a 7 row on the firewall that didnt work. In
> hind sight, I would have done the naca duct right from the start but you
> never know if you're going to have trouble until your flying.
>
> Shemp/Jeff Dowling
> RV-6A, N915JD
> 165 hours
> Chicago/Louisville
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV vs Rocket |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
Im talking about a 300 hp, side by side.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: RV vs Rocket
> --> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
>
> Thought we were talking about a "ROCKET" not an F-2. As to "Rate Of Climb"
> (ROC). HRII N561FS is reported to be only 250 HP. (Slowest HRII we know
> of)
> When you get it flying come on by APV and we'll try to out climb your
> MMMMMM. Will even pay for breakfast/lunch afterward. N561FS can climb out
> at
> a 45 degree angle AND be at pattern altitude at the APV 18/36 runway
> midpoint. We (two on board, 500# plus) tried a full power, no flap stall
> with the nose 30 degree high, still climbing at better than 1,000 fpm thru
> 14,700' when the 23 gallons per hour burn was just more than Tom
> (Gummibear)
> could stand. No oxygen so we came back down. OK...OK so we were setting
> AOA
> limits and ONLY went past 10,000' (14,700 just sounds better & I've told
> this story before) and were not slowing down AND we were closer to a 45
> degree BUT that makes it sound like we're bragging. Think there is an old
> axiom "it aint bragging if'en ya'll can to it". We done dude it. 8*)
> KABONG Do Not Archive (We share our hanger with a motoglider if you like
> "float")
> Subject: Re: RV-List: RV vs Rocket
>
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
>>
>> The F-2 is a super airplane but am I the only one who likes airplanes
>> that
>> can both 'float like a butterfly AND sting like a bee'? I wanted the
>> power of a Rocket with the power off sink rate of a really light RV-4.
>> My
>> answer was an RV-8 with a 300 HP rotary with the wings extended 1 foot on
>> each side and RV-7/Rocket wingtips. Won't keep up with an F-2 on top
>> speed but wanna' compare ROC? : )
>>
>> Tracy Crook
>> RV-4 13B Renesis, 1500+ Hrs
>> RV-8 20B Flying "real soon now"
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: I have a Sky-Tec starter for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> Why aren't you using it? I remember reading once that Skytec starters
and
> Lightspeed Electronic ignition systems had compatibility problems. I
don't
> remember why this was the case or if the problem was or is easily
resolved.
I believe Sky-Tec is/was worried about kickbacks being caused by electronic
ignition systems at lower voltages. i.e. (and I'm pushing my knowledge
envelope here, so correct me if I'm wrong) the possibility exists that while
cranking, the voltage to the EI would drop, and the EI might go nuts and
spark at an inopportune time, causing a kickback.
> Anybody have a Skytec and a Lightspeed who can attest to its performance?
I have both. Sky-Tec LS flyweight starter and a Lightspeed Plasma II. The
only issue I had was with the Sky-Tec solenoid which died around 110 hours.
Not related to the EI. I've been running the same starter since with no
probs. I learned to carry a spare solenoid (thanks Birdstrike & Rosie) in
my tool kit just in case.
I'm not saying my experience counts for anything, but you asked. ;-)
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (457 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
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| Subject: | Archer Wingtip Antenna |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Vincent Welch" <welchvincent@hotmail.com>
Gentlemen,
I was looking over the instructions relating to the installation of Archer
wingtip antenna. The instructions indicate that the ground plane is formed
by placing the edge of the antenna between the wing and the wingtip. This
would work fine if the wingtip fit over the wing skin BUT the RV tip fits
inside of the skin.
For those of you that have installed this type of antenna on the RV series
of aircraft, how did you mount it and how did you form the ground plane?
Vince
RV-8A
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| Subject: | Re: Lightening Holes on the Vertical Stab Spar, HS rivet |
opinions?
--> RV-List message posted by: <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
Michael,
If you actually take the time to READ the Mil Spec on riveting (no one does) you'll
find that you are allowed 1 non conforming rivet in 10. You'll also find
that you don't have to have shop heads which are 150% of the rivet's diameter
or a shop head which has a height of 50% of the rivet's diameter. Those are the
"ideal". The shop head can be as little as 33% of the diameter high and as
little as 133% of the rivet's diameter wide.
See what your tech councilor says. I suggest you abide by what he/she says.
Charlie Kuss
---- MLWynn@aol.com wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am starting work on the vertical stab spar. They describe "optional"
> lightening holes in the spar reinforcing piece. It doesn't look to me like
this
> would be a significant weight savings, although it is at the end of a very
> long moment arm. What are most people doing with this?
>
> I am awaiting an inspection by my friend EAA tech counselor this weekend to
> look at my horizontal stabilizer. It is almost perfect except for a couple
> of small issues. There are a few small scratches in the primer from bucking
> rivets. Do most of you go back and touch those up? I have one rivet that is
> just slightly proud. I am unsure if taking it out will improve things or
> make them worse. Will see what the tech counselor thinks.
>
> The one I am most worried about is a rivet that holds the front inner rib to
> the from spar reinforcement. My first rivet got bent going in. I drilled
> it out from the wrong side (shop head) and got a little way into the spar
> reinforcement bar. I re-riveted it with the same -4 rivet. You can see a small
> defect from my over drilling. I was considering the following options:
> 1. Leave it--put in some primer around it.
> 2. Drill it out and go with a larger size rivet
> 3. Drill it out and put in a small 3/16 bolt.
>
> Since the hole only goes about 1/3 of the thickness of the spar
> reinforcement, I thought it might be okay to leave. I will see what the tech
counselor
> thinks. Opinions here?
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael Wynn
> RV8 Empennage
> San Ramon, CA
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lightening Holes on the Vertical Stab Spar, HS rivet opinions? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> I am starting work on the vertical stab spar. They describe "optional"
> lightening holes in the spar reinforcing piece. It doesn't look to me
like this
> would be a significant weight savings, although it is at the end of a
very
> long moment arm. What are most people doing with this?
Do it...my 2 cents is: cut every single optional lightening hole that Van's
approves...and cut lightening holes in everything non-structural that you
add later.
A year or two down the line, when you and a fat buddy are loaded up with
full fuel and baggage, you'll wish you cut every hole you were allowed by
the designer to cut. I own one RV-7 and two completely different airplanes.
The way it feels when loaded is nothing like the way it feels when it's got
just me and 15 gallons in it. Now that the plane is done, the only thing I
can try to control is the weight of the pilot (I'm workin' on it).
Food for thought -- Van's used to ship the steel elevator horns "solid."
There wasn't even a callout for lightening holes. Now the standard issue
elevator horn has 3 lightening holes pre-cut. When I built my -7 there
wasn't even a callout for those VS spar doubler lightening holes. I would
have cut 'em in an instant. If Van's says the material is dead weight, you
can trust that it is.
The only area where I would ADD material over the plans-prescribed specs
would be on the engine baffles.
Where you can lighten, do lighten! You'll be glad you did.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
I've got a 300HP side by side, it's called a Glasair III.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Dowling
Subject: Re: RV-List: RV vs Rocket
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling"
<shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
Im talking about a 300 hp, side by side.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: RV vs Rocket
> --> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
>
> Thought we were talking about a "ROCKET" not an F-2. As to "Rate Of
Climb"
> (ROC). HRII N561FS is reported to be only 250 HP. (Slowest HRII we
know
> of)
> When you get it flying come on by APV and we'll try to out climb your
> MMMMMM. Will even pay for breakfast/lunch afterward. N561FS can climb
out
> at
> a 45 degree angle AND be at pattern altitude at the APV 18/36 runway
> midpoint. We (two on board, 500# plus) tried a full power, no flap
stall
> with the nose 30 degree high, still climbing at better than 1,000 fpm
thru
> 14,700' when the 23 gallons per hour burn was just more than Tom
> (Gummibear)
> could stand. No oxygen so we came back down. OK...OK so we were
setting
> AOA
> limits and ONLY went past 10,000' (14,700 just sounds better & I've
told
> this story before) and were not slowing down AND we were closer to a
45
> degree BUT that makes it sound like we're bragging. Think there is an
old
> axiom "it aint bragging if'en ya'll can to it". We done dude it. 8*)
> KABONG Do Not Archive (We share our hanger with a motoglider if you
like
> "float")
> Subject: Re: RV-List: RV vs Rocket
>
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
>>
>> The F-2 is a super airplane but am I the only one who likes airplanes
>> that
>> can both 'float like a butterfly AND sting like a bee'? I wanted the
>> power of a Rocket with the power off sink rate of a really light
RV-4.
>> My
>> answer was an RV-8 with a 300 HP rotary with the wings extended 1
foot on
>> each side and RV-7/Rocket wingtips. Won't keep up with an F-2 on top
>> speed but wanna' compare ROC? : )
>>
>> Tracy Crook
>> RV-4 13B Renesis, 1500+ Hrs
>> RV-8 20B Flying "real soon now"
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lightening Holes on the Vertical Stab Spar, HS rivet opinions? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Rob Prior (rv7)" <rv7@b4.ca>
On 16:45:06 2005-04-21 <chaztuna@adelphia.net> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
> If you actually take the time to READ the Mil Spec on riveting (no
> one does) you'll find that you are allowed 1 non conforming rivet in
> 10.
True, in a case where you have a row of rivets. However in this case the
builder was referring to a rib attachment to a spar, where there are only
two or three rivets (I forget which, and don't have my plans handy). In
that case, it's one out of two or one out of three, and in either case I
would be inclined to replace the bad rivet with the next size up, being
very careful to drive the new rivet cleanly... :)
-Rob
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| Subject: | Re: RV vs Rocket |
--> RV-List message posted by: WFACT01@aol.com
IVE GOT A 400HP-ITS FRONT&REAR ITS CALLED AN RV-8SP
Tom Whelan
Whelan Farms Airport
President EAA Chapter 1097
wfact01@aol.com
249 Hard Hill Road North
PO Box 426
Bethlehem, CT 06751
Tel: 203-266-5300
Fax: 202-266-5140
EAA Technical/Flight Advisor
RV-8 540 LYC (40 PLUS HOURS)
S-51 Mustang Turbine (Under Construction)
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| Subject: | Re: wheel pants bracket |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net>
I am finishing up the engine baffles and then mount the oil cooler. There
are a couple of pieces to paint, label the panel, and then mount the wings.
The end is near!! I will be flying this summer "God willing and the creek
don't rise."
Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Furey" <john@fureychrysler.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: wheel pants bracket
> --> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" <john@fureychrysler.com>
>
> Thanks for the generous offer Tom. I put a patch on the old one that
> should
> hold for quite a while. How is the plane coming?
>
> jf
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Archer Wingtip Antenna |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Vince,
The antenna makes contact with the airframe structure by virtue of the
nutplates and screws. The nutplates rivet to the wingtip right onto the
antenna "base," whereby the antenna is sandwiched between the wingtip and
the nutplates. When screws go through the skin and into the nutplates, the
antenna is thus connected to the airframe.
What I wondered about was what happens once the wing skin is painted...i.e.
if the screws will still make enough contact with the wing skin for this to
be functional.
So what I did on mine was to use aluminum tape to provide a direct
connection between the "inside" of the wing skin and the antenna. A picture
or three can illustrate what I'm talking about much better than words:
http://www.rvproject.com/20040322.html
Remarkably, that cheap aluminum tape I bought from Harbor Freight indeed has
enough metal in it to be an electrical conductor.
Works great on the Archer NAV antenna, although the Archer COM antenna in
the RV-7 sheared wing tip leaves a bit to be desired. There's a fair amount
of shadowing by the airframe, and barely enough room to give it vertical
polarization. YMMV
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vincent Welch" <welchvincent@hotmail.com>
Subject: RV-List: Archer Wingtip Antenna
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Vincent Welch" <welchvincent@hotmail.com>
>
> Gentlemen,
>
> I was looking over the instructions relating to the installation of Archer
> wingtip antenna. The instructions indicate that the ground plane is
formed
> by placing the edge of the antenna between the wing and the wingtip. This
> would work fine if the wingtip fit over the wing skin BUT the RV tip fits
> inside of the skin.
>
> For those of you that have installed this type of antenna on the RV series
> of aircraft, how did you mount it and how did you form the ground plane?
>
> Vince
> RV-8A
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV vs Rocket |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Sounds like a "Super -6", which is a great airplane but still not quite a
"Rocket". This is meant as good natured banter, no offence intended. Bet we
would get John Harmon to come by APV to watch and I know the So.Cal RV guys
would attend. 8*) KABONG (GBA & GWB) Do Not Archive
Subject: Re: RV-List: RV vs Rocket
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling"
> <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
>
> Im talking about a 300 hp, side by side.
>
> do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
>>> Thought we were talking about a "ROCKET" not an F-2. As to "Rate Of
>>> Climb"
>> (ROC). HRII N561FS is reported to be only 250 HP. (Slowest HRII we know
>>>
>>> The F-2 is a super airplane but am I the only one who likes airplanes
>>> that
>>> can both 'float like a butterfly AND sting like a bee'? I wanted the
>>> power of a Rocket with the power off sink rate of a really light RV-4.
>>> My
>>> answer was an RV-8 with a 300 HP rotary with the wings extended 1 foot
>>> on
>>> each side and RV-7/Rocket wingtips. Won't keep up with an F-2 on top
>>> speed but wanna' compare ROC? : )
>>>
>>> Tracy Crook
>>> RV-4 13B Renesis, 1500+ Hrs
>>> RV-8 20B Flying "real soon now"
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--> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" <john@fureychrysler.com>
Not on mine.
jf
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--> RV-List message posted by: <scott@keadle.com> with HTTP/1.1;
Alright, I can't stand it. I have to know what KABONG means.
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: I have a Sky-Tec starter for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Anybody have a Skytec and a Lightspeed who can attest to its performance?
Used to have the Skytec lightweight and LSE II. The starter crapped out
last year on the way to Oshkosh. The housing was cracked and looked
like a kickback. The Skytec guy blamed the LSE and said they cause
kickbacks during to low voltage conditions. Klaus (Mr. Lightspeed) had
a different view, and explained to me in great detail (most of which is
forgotten) why his units do not do this.
The problem with the Skyweight, IMHO, is that it uses a permanent magnet
motor (lighter weight and cheaper) which by their nature draw much
higher current during starting than a starter with a wound field motor.
Combine this with a small battery (ie. Odessy, Panasonic etc. which many
of us use) which just can't keep up with the current demands, and you
have a problem. In my case, I had the triple whammy of Flyweight
starter, small battery, and wood prop (low inertia) so my plane was
never an enthusiastic starter to begin with.
The problem was solved by upgrading to a B & C starter, which is a
couple pounds heavier (you make up for it by being a couple pounds
lighter in the wallet) but uses a wound field motor. I can now get the
tail up just on starter power (well, almost.)
I was not impressed with Skytec as a company at all, expecially with the
way they blame LSE for the problems with their starter. I was able to
resolve the issue to my satisfaction, but it took a lot of arm
twisting. In fairness to Skytec, they do make a starter with a field
wound motor which I'm sure would work just fine, but these are heavier
and more expensive. Also in fairness, there are a bunch of the Skytec
lightweights out there working just fine. However, there is a
difference between a production plane with a 35A huge battery and heavy
prop, and a homebuilt with a light prop and small battery.
Jeff Point
RV-6
Milwaukee WI
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| Subject: | Re: Archer Wingtip Antenna |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Drill out a few of the wingtip attach nutplates and rivet the antenna in
between them and the wingtip. Sam has a write up about this antenna and
a picture of this:
http://home.hiwaay.net/~sbuc/journal/sportcraft.htm
Jeff Point
RV-6
Milwaukee WI
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| Subject: | Re: RV vs Rocket |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@comcast.net>
JOHN STARN wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
>
>Sounds like a "Super -6", which is a great airplane but still not quite a
>"Rocket". This is meant as good natured banter, no offence intended. Bet we
>would get John Harmon to come by APV to watch and I know the So.Cal RV guys
>would attend. 8*) KABONG (GBA & GWB) Do Not Archive
>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: RV vs Rocket
>
>
>
I have had the luxury of riding with John Harmon in his Rocket and it is
a "super airplane" and I would love
to have one but alas a divorce takes a man of moderate means and turn
him into a poor man and the support
goes on indefinitely.:-( In the mean time I am very happy flying my old
RV-6 :-)
Jerry
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: I have a Sky-Tec starter for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Dan is basically right. I just ordered my RV-10 Aerosport IO-540 engine
today and talked to Bart about it. He recommended getting the
HT Sky-Tec starter with my Lightspeed III ignition. I didn't follow
it perfectly, but it basically amounted to the voltage dropping when
you crank the engine. I don't think he said it caused kickbacks, but
maybe just poor starting. Anyway, I'm hoping to use a dual-bus system
and run my lightspeed on the essential bus...separated...during starting
anyway, along with an instrument or two.
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
Dan Checkoway wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
>>Why aren't you using it? I remember reading once that Skytec starters
>
> and
>
>>Lightspeed Electronic ignition systems had compatibility problems. I
>
> don't
>
>>remember why this was the case or if the problem was or is easily
>
> resolved.
>
> I believe Sky-Tec is/was worried about kickbacks being caused by electronic
> ignition systems at lower voltages. i.e. (and I'm pushing my knowledge
> envelope here, so correct me if I'm wrong) the possibility exists that while
> cranking, the voltage to the EI would drop, and the EI might go nuts and
> spark at an inopportune time, causing a kickback.
>
>
>>Anybody have a Skytec and a Lightspeed who can attest to its performance?
>
>
> I have both. Sky-Tec LS flyweight starter and a Lightspeed Plasma II. The
> only issue I had was with the Sky-Tec solenoid which died around 110 hours.
> Not related to the EI. I've been running the same starter since with no
> probs. I learned to carry a spare solenoid (thanks Birdstrike & Rosie) in
> my tool kit just in case.
>
> I'm not saying my experience counts for anything, but you asked. ;-)
>
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D (457 hours)
> http://www.rvproject.com
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| Subject: | Re: Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues |
--> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Alright guys, I bit the bullet. Aerosport sold me on their IO-540 RV-10
engine today! If anyone is looking for a place to buy one,
Aerosport is great, but also look up America's Aircraft Engines. They
were cheaper, and I'm sure just as good. I just have this thing about
Aerosport because I've heard over and over how good they are.
Oh, and you'll get to see my engine at OSH. It'll be the IO-540 on
display!
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Paul Besing wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <paul@kitlog.com>
>
> He must have quit charging the brokerage fee. It wasn't much, maybe $100 or
> so. It was to pay the people who do that tariff paperwork, clearing
> customs, etc. FWIW, Arizona didn't ask me to pay tax on the engine. They
> never knew I bought it.
>
> Paul Besing
> RV-6A Sold
> Kitlog Builder's Software
> www.kitlog.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pat Hatch
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Aerosport Engines and Shipping/Tax issues
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Pat Hatch" <pat_hatch@msn.com>
>
> Tim,
>
> I have bought two engines from Bart and paid no customs fees, just shipping
> to Florida.
>
> Pat Hatch
> RV-6
> RV-7
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Thanks everyone, so far, for the replies to my question about engines
> from AeroSport. It does sound like they have a good reputation.
> I am a bit confused though, especially after Darwin's post here.
>
> As far as taxes, I'm not worried about that. I know that either
> way I'll be paying the use tax on the plane when I go to register
> it, so the State of Wisconsin will get their tax one way or the
> other.
>
> I see that some said shipping was less to have it shipped from
> Aerosport than similar packages shipped from closer and within
> the US. I'll have to check this out.
>
> I see that some said they had small "brokerage fees". No big
> deal, since it sounds like they were small.
>
> The big confusion though is this $1500 "Customs Fee" that
> Darwin mentions....what's that all about? Was that actually
> a fee for going through customs? I didn't think there were
> any fees other than shipping and brokerage (other than tax).
>
> So now I'm happy that the engines would be pretty good, but
> these additional fees are still making me apprehensive. I've got
> a US supplier that can supply the same engine with ECI Titan
> cylinders, for probably $2000 less money. The 2 catches are
> that A) The original cores come from Africa and from turbocharged
> planes (ss-s-s-scary), and B) They talk of roller lifters like
> they are something voodoo. I thought that roller lifters were
> not only a good idea, but something that was now a good and
> recent product that could help my engine's longevity.
>
> Thanks again guys, I'm getting closer.
>
> Tim - RV-10 #170
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| Subject: | Re: Archer Wingtip Antenna |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net>
I believe Bob A's intent in the instructions is to rivet the antennal ground
element (the short leg) between the inside of the fiberglass tip and the nut
plates used for the attach screws that secure the tip to the wing. Ground
is provided by the screws through the metal structure to the nutplates and
ground leg of the antenna.
Dick Sipp
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vincent Welch" <welchvincent@hotmail.com>
Subject: RV-List: Archer Wingtip Antenna
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Vincent Welch" <welchvincent@hotmail.com>
>
> Gentlemen,
>
> I was looking over the instructions relating to the installation of Archer
> wingtip antenna. The instructions indicate that the ground plane is
> formed
> by placing the edge of the antenna between the wing and the wingtip. This
> would work fine if the wingtip fit over the wing skin BUT the RV tip fits
> inside of the skin.
>
> For those of you that have installed this type of antenna on the RV series
> of aircraft, how did you mount it and how did you form the ground plane?
>
> Vince
> RV-8A
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Archer Wingtip Antenna |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
Mine have been working fantastic the way Dick say to mount them. Note that I
have 1,655 flying hours. The installation picks up a signal before I can
hear the ID.
Had KX-125 for 3 years.
Replaced with SL-30 past 4 years.
As I said, both had nav signal before you could hear the ID.
The second Archer Nav antenna runs the Pioneer FM CD/MP3 player installed in
the panel.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,655 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Archer Wingtip Antenna
--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net>
I believe Bob A's intent in the instructions is to rivet the antennal ground
element (the short leg) between the inside of the fiberglass tip and the nut
plates used for the attach screws that secure the tip to the wing. Ground
is provided by the screws through the metal structure to the nutplates and
ground leg of the antenna.
Dick Sipp
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vincent Welch" <welchvincent@hotmail.com>
Subject: RV-List: Archer Wingtip Antenna
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Vincent Welch" <welchvincent@hotmail.com>
>
> Gentlemen,
>
> I was looking over the instructions relating to the installation of
Archer
> wingtip antenna. The instructions indicate that the ground plane is
> formed
> by placing the edge of the antenna between the wing and the wingtip.
This
> would work fine if the wingtip fit over the wing skin BUT the RV tip fits
> inside of the skin.
>
> For those of you that have installed this type of antenna on the RV
series
> of aircraft, how did you mount it and how did you form the ground plane?
>
> Vince
> RV-8A
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| Subject: | Edmonton RVators |
--> RV-List message posted by: Roger Embree <j.embree@sympatico.ca>
I am looking for any RV builders in the Edmonton area that could provide
some assistance in the next couple of days.
I am staying at the Royal Inn Express Hotel in Spruce Grove.
780 962-6050 or Ontario cell phone number 519 217-3111
Thanks
Roger Embree
My RV-4 is sitting in Villeneuve waiting for some TLC
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| Subject: | Re: Lightening Holes on the Vertical Stab Spar, HS rivet opinions? |
--> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
Hi Dan
What you say makes good sense, lighten as much as possible. So, how does one
best cut these lightening holes? Circular hole saw on a drill press?
Regards,
Michael Wynn
RV-8, Empennage
San Ramon, California
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| Subject: | Re: Lightening Holes on the Vertical Stab Spar, HS rivet opinions? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> What you say makes good sense, lighten as much as possible. So, how does
one
> best cut these lightening holes? Circular hole saw on a drill press?
I don't remember the size of the holes they call out, and it's not on my old
empennage plans. If I recall there are holes of different sizes. If you
don't have the right size hole saw(s), I'd probably just use a fly cutter.
I know lots of people are afraid of it (for good reason), but it's
infinitely adjustable, which I like. Just clamp the work down really well,
so at least one of your hands is free to work the drill press OFF switch...
;-)
do not archive
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
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