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1. 02:55 AM - Re: QB Questions (Richard Bibb)
2. 06:00 AM - Re: QB Questions (Pat Hatch)
3. 06:07 AM - Emergency notification (Was: RV-6 Crash) (Glen Matejcek)
4. 06:19 AM - ram air box (Glenn Rainey)
5. 07:04 AM - Re: Emergency notification (Was: RV-6 Crash) (John Huft)
6. 07:27 AM - Re: QB Questions (Paul Folbrecht)
7. 07:52 AM - Re: Emergency notification (Was: RV-6 Crash) (Ron Lee)
8. 08:02 AM - Performance Settings RV6 Lyc 0360 w Hartzell Constant Speed (Tony Marshall)
9. 08:12 AM - Re: Lyc 0360 w Hartzell Constant Speed (Pat Hatch)
10. 08:28 AM - Rocket vs RV revisited (Frazier, Vincent A)
11. 08:33 AM - 70" Hartzell? (LeastDrag93066@aol.com)
12. 08:53 AM - Re: Performance Settings RV6 Lyc 0360 w Hartzell Constant Speed (Tracy Crook)
13. 10:47 AM - Airflow Performance fuel pump (Karen and Robert Brown)
14. 10:58 AM - Lyc. 360 - Hartzell vs. MT aluminum 2 blade (LeastDrag93066@aol.com)
15. 11:13 AM - Re: Airflow Performance fuel pump (James Ochs)
16. 11:43 AM - RV8/8As being built near KLOM? (Don Kugler)
17. 12:44 PM - Re: Airflow Performance fuel pump (Walter Tondu)
18. 03:21 PM - Re: QB Questions (LARRY ADAMSON)
19. 04:51 PM - BMA EFIS Light (Valovich, Paul)
20. 06:14 PM - Anyone have a comparison of Garmin 296 and iQue3600a? (sportav8r@aol.com)
21. 06:16 PM - Re: Scud Running (Charlie England)
22. 06:52 PM - Re: Scud Running (Mark Grieve)
23. 06:55 PM - Re: Anyone have a comparison of Garmin 296 and iQue3600a? (LARRY ADAMSON)
24. 07:04 PM - Re: BMA EFIS Light (David Leonard)
25. 07:17 PM - Re: QB Questions (Paul Folbrecht)
26. 07:50 PM - Re: BMA EFIS Light (David Leonard)
27. 07:51 PM - Re: Anyone have a comparison of Garmin 296 and iQue3600a? (Larry Bowen)
28. 08:02 PM - Advice on using an off-set rivet set (MLWynn@aol.com)
29. 08:14 PM - Re: BMA EFIS Light (Brian Kraut)
30. 08:32 PM - Re: Anyone have a comparison of Garmin 296 and (Ron Lee)
31. 09:24 PM - Re: Advice on using an off-set rivet set (JOHN STARN)
32. 11:42 PM - Re: Advice on using an off-set rivet set (owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com)
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| Subject: | Re: QB Questions |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Bibb" <rebibb@comcast.net>
Answer:
1) Yes
2) Yes but as you probably have discovered there are a myriad of opinions on
the subject.
> --> RV-List message posted by: Paul Folbrecht <paul.folbrecht@veribox.net>
>
> A couple general questions about QB kits.
>
> 1) Are there ever problems with getting enough access in the wings for
> installing autopilot servos, lights, or anything else? I know they
> come sans one skin only.. is that enough?
>
> 2) Any thoughts about the wash primer used? I know some ppl paint the
> inside of the fuse in addition to that. Why? The wash primer is
> deemed not sufficient for corrosion protection?
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Pat Hatch" <pat_hatch@msn.com>
Paul,
I built a QB -7 and there's plenty of access for servos, lights, etc. You
may have to get a Unibit extension (Avery sells them) to drill additional
wiring holes through the ribs. The problem you will encounter is only on
the inboard end of the wing where the ribs are spaced too close together for
drilling access.
As for the priming, too many variables here...check the archives and make
your own decision. My own opinion, the wash primer will be just fine unless
you live in a humid or salty area. If the airplane is to be hangared, I
wouldn't worry about it.
Hope this helps,
Pat Hatch
RV-6
RV-7
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Folbrecht <paul.folbrecht@veribox.net>
A couple general questions about QB kits.
1) Are there ever problems with getting enough access in the wings for
installing autopilot servos, lights, or anything else? I know they
come sans one skin only.. is that enough?
2) Any thoughts about the wash primer used? I know some ppl paint the
inside of the fuse in addition to that. Why? The wash primer is
deemed not sufficient for corrosion protection?
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| Subject: | Emergency notification (Was: RV-6 Crash) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Glen Matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
Hi All-
Something that has been missing from this exchange on ELTs, as well as the
linked federal page, is that modern ELTs transmit on both the civil 121.5
AND military 243. Consequently, and although 121.5 is going away, any
recent (decades old?) ELT will most likely still be legal / useful until
the military comes up with both the motivation and spare cash to convert
their equipment to something better.
Of course, if good / fast SAR is a concern, one could have 121.5 tuned in
Com 2, or a memory slot of the only Com. This could facilitate a couple of
things, given that all FSS, ATCT, and I believe all ARTCC's listen in.
First, one could listen for other's distress call in order to relay info
and help localize another downed airplane. Second, instead of just turning
on your own ELT while airborne and announcing to everyone that someone
somewhere is in trouble, you could transmit your pan or mayday call to
include your present position. Poof, help is on the way. Subsequently, you
could turn the ELT on prior to the impact,
On the ergonomics side, I have chosen to put the remote head for my ELT
adjacent to my battery and IGN switches. This way, I have to look at it
each time I shut down. This forces me to check for false activations after
a normal arrival as well as reminding me to activate it manually when
killing the bats and IGN prior to a forced landing.
Soapbox mode off...
Glen Matejcek
aerobubba@earthlink.net
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--> RV-List message posted by: Glenn Rainey <nimbusaviation@yahoo.com>
Hi RV people. I am a long-EZ (re)builder, and am
installing an RV ram air box (FAB) on my O-235 L2C
according to the configuration of one of our gurus
'over here' in the canard community. I'd be keen to
catch sight of the airbox configuration as it is
called out in the RV plans, by way of critique for
what we're trying to do here for the plastic airplane.
(as an aside, I found some of the holes
factory-drilled in the upper filter attach plate to be
out of position, so I've re-fabricated that part)
I would be very grateful if someone had the chance
maybe to scan in a page or 2 of the RV plans so I can
see this airbox. Perhaps contact me offlist.
Thanks, very much, in anticipation.
Glenn Rainey
Scotland
Long-EZ 'prefurb'
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| Subject: | Re: Emergency notification (Was: RV-6 Crash) |
--> RV-List message posted by: John Huft <rv8@lazy8.net>
Andre, if you go down in Mexico, no one is going to come looking for you.
John
Andre Berthet wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Andre Berthet" <aberthet@sbcglobal.net>
>
>I'm planning a trip to Baja California next week and decided to buy a PLB. I
>got the mcmurdo Fastfind Plus (with internal GPS) from Landfall Navigation
>http://www.landfallnav.com/index.html for $540.00. It's seems to be a nice
>and well built instrument. I already registered it online with NOAA SARSAT.
>As someone eluded before, in case of a crash the Personal Locator Beacon
>(PLB) will need to be activated manually by the person in distress if he or
>she is able.
>
>Andre Berthet
>
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Linn, the ELT has a G-sensor which the PLB's do not have (the "P" is for
>>>personal). Further you've got the whole TSO/holy water thing to contend
>>>with. And as Jerry noted, we don't need no steeenking 337's for
>>>experimentals. There ARE 406mhz ELT's currently available but they are
>>>
>>>
>>big
>>
>>
>>>$$$. PLB's may be a good addition but can't replace ELT's. We hashed
>>>through this issue about 4-5 motnths ago.
>>>
>>>Greg Young
>>>
>>>
>>The PLB is in addition to the ELT and offers substantial improvements over
>>121.5 MHz ELTs in that it can take the "search" out of Search and Rescue.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: QB Questions |
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Folbrecht <paulfolbrecht@yahoo.com>
> Answer:
>
> 1) Yes
Yes, there are problems? What kinds have you run into? With all the people
using autopilots these days, I have to believe it's possible to get a servo in
there. I can deal with a little extra work. [As long as it doesn't end up
negating the time-savings of the QB wing entirely. ;-)]
>
> 2) Yes but as you probably have discovered there are a myriad of opinions on
> the subject.
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Paul Folbrecht <paul.folbrecht@veribox.net>
> >
> > A couple general questions about QB kits.
> >
> > 1) Are there ever problems with getting enough access in the wings for
> > installing autopilot servos, lights, or anything else? I know they
> > come sans one skin only.. is that enough?
> >
> > 2) Any thoughts about the wash primer used? I know some ppl paint the
> > inside of the fuse in addition to that. Why? The wash primer is
> > deemed not sufficient for corrosion protection?
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Emergency notification (Was: RV-6 Crash) |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>Andre, if you go down in Mexico, no one is going to come looking for you.
>
>John
At least with the PLB, SAR resources will know about you and call the contact
numbers they have on file.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Performance Settings RV6 Lyc 0360 w Hartzell Constant Speed |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tony Marshall" <tony@lambros.com>
Repost...
My question has probably been addressed a 100 times, but I couldnt find it
in the archives, so here it is again....
RV6....What are the normal power/performance settings for my engine prop
combo? I realize MP is a function of altitude, but would be interested in
approximate expected settings (MP, RPM, Fuel Burn) at SL, 3000, 6000, 9000,
12000 for performance cruise 75%, economy cruise 65%.
Thanks for your assistance.
Tony Marshall
RV6
Polson, MT
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| Subject: | Lyc 0360 w Hartzell Constant Speed |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Pat Hatch" <pat_hatch@msn.com>
Tony,
I will send the Lycoming 0-360 power chart to your e-mail address...anyone
else wanting a copy please e-mail me direct.
Do not archive.
Pat Hatch
RV-6
RV-7
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tony Marshall
Subject: RV-List: Lyc 0360 w Hartzell Constant Speed
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tony Marshall" <tony@lambros.com>
My question has probably been addressed a 100 times, but I couldnt find it
in the archives, so here it is again....
RV6....What are the normal power/performance settings for my engine prop
combo? I realize MP is a function of altitude, but would be interested in
approximate expected settings (MP, RPM, Fuel Burn) at SL, 3000, 6000, 9000,
12000 for performance cruise 75%, economy cruise 65%.
Thanks for your assistance.
Tony Marshall
RV6
Polson, MT
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| Subject: | Rocket vs RV revisited |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
SNIP Now, there is no way I would take my plane to CAFE and expect to set any
records. From what little I know of John Harmon is that he took his
personal plane with no fan fare or special mods and set several CAFE
records.
Now, (I may get some of this wrong but it is what I heard), the RV-4 was
highly modified. It was build very light and not painted to save more
weight. Unlike most RVs, I would not want to be in it if acro was being
performed. The pilot even lost a lot of weight. I am sure there were many
more things done in search of the record book. Let me say, I see nothing
wrong in this. But comparing a "Stock" Rocket with a "Special" RV-4 is like
comparing apples to oranges. I don't take my car to the race track and
expect to compete with formula F-1 cars.
Tom Gummo SNIP
***************************************************************************
I would add that Bruce Bohannon is using a Rocket to set his altitude records,
albeit with a much larger wing. I don't understand why he calls it a "highly
modified RV-4." Maybe to cheese Van a bit, maybe he had a falling out with the
well-known Rocket builder who built it, I don't know. It is definitely "Rocketized."
Looking at this another way, hmmmm, maybe we're all just flying highly
modified Stits products??????
It would be VERY interesting if Dave Anders prepped a Rocket for the CAF competition.
Maybe it wouldn't do as well, but it would be VERY interesting nonetheless.
My apologies to those who thought my analogy about the supermodels wasn't accurate.
I confess, it's true.... I've never actually had 12 Victoria Secret models
fighting over me. OTOH, I'll wager that those who didn't understand my analogy
have never flown a Rocket, and those who do fly Rockets fully understand the
analogy and know that it's as close to the truth as can be explained in verbal
terms.
I strongly suspect that Spaceship One, the X-15, and a very few other aircraft,
none of which we mere mortals are likely to ever fly, can beat the Rocket for
sheer fun. That's the rub with the Rocket, and the RV's too, mere mortals can
build them, fly them, and still send the kids to college with what's left.
Please don't ever think that I'm knocking the RVs, just stating that there is
something else beyond "Total Performance."
Vince
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--> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com
Hi All,
Is anyone running a 70" dia. Hartzell 7666A4 propeller on their Lycoming
O-360-A1A engine? Preferably for three years, or more.
A friend with a RV-6 had a little mishap which shortened his 72" dia.
Hartzell to about a 70" dia.
BTW, I already know that 72" is the minimum acceptable length for this
propeller, so we don't need to start that thread. :-)
Regards,
Jim Ayers
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| Subject: | Re: Performance Settings RV6 Lyc 0360 w Hartzell Constant Speed |
Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:53:06 -0400
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
Normal covers a lot of ground. 75% is WOT at 8000 ft density altitude on a standard
day. Van's cruise specs are as good an answer as you will ever get. Got
your RV specs handy? As always, YMMV. Airframe cleanliness affects results
significantly. RPM will of course be whatever you set it to.
Tracy (thinking this may not be much help so do not archive )
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tony Marshall" <tony@lambros.com<mailto:tony@lambros.com>>
Repost...
My question has probably been addressed a 100 times, but I couldnt find it
in the archives, so here it is again....
RV6....What are the normal power/performance settings for my engine prop
combo? I realize MP is a function of altitude, but would be interested in
approximate expected settings (MP, RPM, Fuel Burn) at SL, 3000, 6000, 9000,
12000 for performance cruise 75%, economy cruise 65%.
Thanks for your assistance.
Tony Marshall
RV6
Polson, MT
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| Subject: | Airflow Performance fuel pump |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Karen and Robert Brown" <bkbrown@ashcreekwireless.com>
I feel a little stupid about admitting my situation , but hopefully this post will
save someone else some time. I am using the Airflow Performance fuel pump
(purchased from Van's) and it is all installed, plumbed and wired...
I tested the wires for continuity to the switch, everything was good until I put
power to the pump to momentarily test for function...then, NOTHING happened.
I rechecked voltage through the wires and through the switch, then with power
coming from the switch, I measured voltage across the pump terminals to verify
power was making it from the switch...yep.
I called Don at AFP and he said "send it in"...perfect...now just to stand on my
head, pull off the cover plates, enjoy the reverse plumbing job, undo the wiring,
box it up, drive to UPS, ship it, and wait...
Long story short... BENCH TEST THE PUMP BEFORE INSTALLING IT.
Bob Brown
RV-7A wiring
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| Subject: | Lyc. 360 - Hartzell vs. MT aluminum 2 blade |
--> RV-List message posted by: LeastDrag93066@aol.com
Hi All,
This information is specifically applicable to the Lycoming 360
non-counterweighted crankshaft engines.
Van's Aircraft sells 72" and 74" diameter 2 blade CS Hartzell propellers.
The aluminum 2 blade CS MT propeller (MTV-15-B/183-402) has a 72" diameter.
In the case of blade damage, the Hartzell minimum blade diameter is 72".
(So don't damage your 72" dia. Hartzell.)
In the case of blade damage, the MTV-15-B/183-402 minimum blade diameter is
68".
On a stock Lyc. 360 engine;
The Hartzell /F766xxx propeller has a RPM restriction between 2000 to 2250
RPM for continuous operation.
The Hartzell /F7496( ) propeller does not have RPM restrictions for the 180
hp Lyc. On the 200 hp Lyc., this propeller has a RPM restriction between
2000 to 2250 RPM for continuous operation.
The MTV-15-B/183-402 does not have RPM restrictions.
On an aftermarket electronic ignition, LASAR system, or FADEC system
equipped Lyc. 360 engine;
The Hartzell /F766xxx propeller has a RPM restriction between 2000 to 2250
RPM for continuous operation and a maximum continuous operating limitation of
2600 RPM.
The Hartzell /F7496( ) propeller cannot be operate above 22" MP below 2350
RPM. There is a maximum continuous operating limitation of 2600 RPM. The
maximum takeoff RPM is limited to 2650 RPM for FADEC equipped engines.
The MTV-15-B/183-402 does not have RPM restrictions.
For a Lyc. 360 engine with high compression pistons and an aftermarket
electronic ignition, LASAR system, or FADEC system;
Hartzell recommends that you do not use their propeller.
The MTV-15-B/183-402 does not have RPM restrictions.
Van sells the aluminum 2 blade CS Hartzell 72" dia. /F766xxx propellers for
$5,420, and the /F7496( ) propellers for $5,650. The spinner costs extra,
the rear bulkhead has to be trimmed to fit the hub and the spinner dome has to
be fitted to the propeller blades.
Less Drag Products, Inc, MT Propeller USA, Inc. and MT Propeller sell the
aluminum 2 blade CS MT 72" dia. propeller for $6,399. The bulkheads are
mounted on the propeller hub with a painted (or primed) completed spinner dome.
Basically, the propeller/spinner assembly comes ready to bolt onto your engine
with a 1/4" spinner clearance to the cowl.
The bottom line:
If you are putting together an RV with a stock Lyc. 360 engine, the 72" dia.
2 blade Hartzell can make a great package.
If your RV Lyc. 360 engine is a stock 200 hp, or has a little extra
something, then consider the MTV-15-B/183-402 propeller.
Regards,
Jim Ayers
Less Drag Products, Inc.
_www.lessdrag.com_ (http://www.lessdrag.com)
(805) 795-5377
Prices subject to change without notice.
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| Subject: | Re: Airflow Performance fuel pump |
--> RV-List message posted by: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org>
I feel for you ;)
I have a theory that applies to pretty much every peice of machinery,
electronic or otherwise:
1) if you test it prior to installation, or closing it up then the
failure rate rapidly approaches 0%
2) if you don't test it prior to installation or closing it up then the
failure rate rapidly approaches 100%
my theory is that it really doesn't matter about the quality or
installation methods or anything else that would affect the actual
functioning of the part. It (nearly) always works when its easy to fix
and it (nearly) never works when its difficult ;) A corrollary is the
more difficult it is to reach or replace a part, the more likely it is
to fail frequently ;)
do not archive
James
Karen and Robert Brown wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Karen and Robert Brown" <bkbrown@ashcreekwireless.com>
>
>I feel a little stupid about admitting my situation , but hopefully this post
will save someone else some time. I am using the Airflow Performance fuel pump
(purchased from Van's) and it is all installed, plumbed and wired...
>
>I tested the wires for continuity to the switch, everything was good until I put
power to the pump to momentarily test for function...then, NOTHING happened.
I rechecked voltage through the wires and through the switch, then with power
coming from the switch, I measured voltage across the pump terminals to verify
power was making it from the switch...yep.
>
>I called Don at AFP and he said "send it in"...perfect...now just to stand on
my head, pull off the cover plates, enjoy the reverse plumbing job, undo the wiring,
box it up, drive to UPS, ship it, and wait...
>
>Long story short... BENCH TEST THE PUMP BEFORE INSTALLING IT.
>
>Bob Brown
>RV-7A wiring
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | RV8/8As being built near KLOM? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Don Kugler" <donkugler@earthlink.net>
Anyone in the vicinity of Wings Field (KLOM) with an RV8 or -8A under
construction? I've got a friend who lives in that area that I recently took
for a ride in my -8 and he's hooked - no surprise. He would like to see one
in the construction phase.
Please respond off-list.
Thanks,
-Don
Don Kugler
donkugler@earthlink.net
RV8 @ N40
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| Subject: | Re: Airflow Performance fuel pump |
--> RV-List message posted by: Walter Tondu <walter@tondu.com>
On 04/25 10:58, Karen and Robert Brown wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Karen and Robert Brown" <bkbrown@ashcreekwireless.com>
>
> I feel a little stupid about admitting my situation , but hopefully this post
will save someone else some time. I am using the Airflow Performance fuel pump
(purchased from Van's) and it is all installed, plumbed and wired...
>
> I tested the wires for continuity to the switch, everything was good until I
put power to the pump to momentarily test for function...then, NOTHING happened.
I rechecked voltage through the wires and through the switch, then with power
coming from the switch, I measured voltage across the pump terminals to verify
power was making it from the switch...yep.
>
> I called Don at AFP and he said "send it in"...perfect...now just to stand on
my head, pull off the cover plates, enjoy the reverse plumbing job, undo the
wiring, box it up, drive to UPS, ship it, and wait...
>
> Long story short... BENCH TEST THE PUMP BEFORE INSTALLING IT.
Even if you bench test it, there can be Gremlins. Mine didn't
work the first time I flipped the switch, it kept blowing 10A fuses.
Tested everything, wiring checked out perfectly. Put the pump on the
bench and it ran, put it back in and it didn't. Got confused as hell.
Sent the pump in to get diagnosed. It was fine.
Turns out one of my expensive switches was bad. Go figure.
--
Walter Tondu
http://www.rv7-a.com
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| Subject: | Re: QB Questions |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LARRY ADAMSON" <rvhi03@msn.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Folbrecht
Subject: Re: RV-List: QB Questions
If the QB wing is not skinned on both sides by the aileron bell crank inspection
opening, then the auto-pilot servo is easy to install. In can also be installed
in a finished wing, but a much tougher process. I'm at that point right now,
and will probably go with an installation that puts the servo in the wing tip.
Very easy to do on a finished wing, but ends up slightly heavier due to a
pushrod that needs to be at least 3/4" diameter and around 57" long. I'll just
put it in the right wing (RV6A) to offset my own weight on solo flight. Inside
wing installations use pushrods that are only about 6-8" long.
IMO ---- Two very good A/Ps are the TruTrak and the Trio EZ Pilot. Both use a panel
mounted or newer handheld GPS for heading information. Altitude A/P's can
easily be installed anytime. Using the search function for either of these
A/P's, you can get diagrams. Other pics are also on the net.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Valovich, Paul" <pvalovich@dcscorp.com>
When I called Blue Mountain Avionics last week to inquire about their
EFIS Light, I was told 85 units had already been shipped. Does anyone
have any comments regarding installation / operation / reliability? What
about the autopilot option?
Paul Valovich
RV-8A QB Delivery Thursday
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| Subject: | Anyone have a comparison of Garmin 296 and iQue3600a? |
--> RV-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
Looking for a nice color GPS with terrain, obstacles & VNAV, capable of driving
a Trio A/P. I know the 296 fits the bill nicely, but I'm wondering what the
296 offers that makes it worth $400 more than the iQue 3600a Palm offering form
Garmin. They have the same screen resolution and size (one is portrait orientation,
the other landscape, I suppose) but the PDA doubles as, well, a PDA.
As a long time Handspringt and Palm user, I am trying to find the downside to
owning a nice Palm that does everything I want a handheld aviation GPS to do,
versus a dedicated aviation GPS for 400 bucks more that will not do much for
me outside the airplane. Am I missing something here? What are the Palm's shortcomings?
There must be something...
-Stormy
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| Subject: | Re: Scud Running |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
GMC wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: GMC <gmcnutt@shaw.ca>
>
>
>a new tower would pop up and would only be on a NOTAM, but not in the
>charts/gps updates.
>------------------------------------------------
>Question, - anyone on the list know how far towers have to be set back from
>roads and highways. We don't have that many big towers around here and most
>that I have noticed on my flights East seem to be set back enough that if
>they toppled over they would not come down on an adjacent highway. Nice to
>know for sure if following a highway in poor weather (150 'right of
>centerline).
>
>George in Langley BC
>6A flying
>7A fuse.
>
Around here there isn't enough 'wiggle room' to make me trust myself to
remain between them while trying to follow curves in the road,
communicate, read the chart, etc.
If it's a 600' tower & it's 700' off the road, that ain't much room.
In the US, cell towers are *everywhere*. A few years ago they tried to
put a 600' cell tower directly on the extended centerline of my home
strip (MS71) 3 miles from the numbers (about a thousand feet from the
highway).
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: Scud Running |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Grieve <mark@macomb.com>
A 300 foot tower sprouted .8 miles from the end of my home strip, a
private grass runway between corn fields. We heard about it Saturday and
on Tuesday it was up. More of an annoyance than hazard, we worried that
someone unfamiliar with the place would hit it. Soon afterward I heard
that the local airport board (GBG) discussed leasing airport property
for a tower. Wouldn't that have been a fun thing to avoid at ILS minimums?
Do not archive
Mark
Charlie wrote:
A few years ago they tried to put a 600' cell tower directly on the
extended centerline of my home strip (MS71) 3 miles from the numbers
(about a thousand feet from the highway).
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone have a comparison of Garmin 296 and iQue3600a? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LARRY ADAMSON" <rvhi03@msn.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: sportav8r@aol.com
Subject: RV-List: Anyone have a comparison of Garmin 296 and iQue3600a?
From everything I've heard/read, the iQue 3600 has "no" data output for the auto-pilot.
I was in the same dilemma & ended up with the 296 for my Trio.
The 296 will require a power/data cable which is about $30.00
Of course when I purchased my Garmin, it was $200.00 more!
Looking for a nice color GPS with terrain, obstacles & VNAV, capable of driving
a Trio A/P. I know the 296 fits the bill nicely, but I'm wondering what the
296 offers that makes it worth $400 more than the iQue 3600a Palm offering form
Garmin. They have the same screen resolution and size (one is portrait orientation,
the other landscape, I suppose) but the PDA doubles as, well, a PDA.
As a long time Handspringt and Palm user, I am trying to find the downside to
owning a nice Palm that does everything I want a handheld aviation GPS to do,
versus a dedicated aviation GPS for 400 bucks more that will not do much for
me outside the airplane. Am I missing something here? What are the Palm's shortcomings?
There must be something...
-Stormy
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| Subject: | Re: BMA EFIS Light |
--> RV-List message posted by: David Leonard <wdleonard@gmail.com>
I have one (the EFIS G3 Lite), I like it alot and use it in IMC,
however that is only because I have a backup eletric AI (I use the
blumountain in HSI mode while in IMC). It does have some drift that I
think the company will work out. The moving map is next to worthless
right now, but will be improved.
But the HSI is the best, brightest and most usefule you can get for
less than $10k, and it is only $2.7k
Dave Leonard
On 4/25/05, Valovich, Paul <pvalovich@dcscorp.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Valovich, Paul" <pvalovich@dcscorp.com>
>
> When I called Blue Mountain Avionics last week to inquire about their
> EFIS Light, I was told 85 units had already been shipped. Does anyone
> have any comments regarding installation / operation / reliability? What
> about the autopilot option?
>
> Paul Valovich
>
> RV-8A QB Delivery Thursday
>
>
--
Wm. David Leonard
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| Subject: | Re: QB Questions |
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Folbrecht <paulfolbrecht@yahoo.com>
Yeah, my panel is a ways away but if I did it today it would be a GRT 2-3
screen system and TruTrak 2-axis AP.
Do not achive.
> IMO ---- Two very good A/Ps are the TruTrak and the Trio EZ Pilot. Both use a
> panel mounted or newer handheld GPS for heading information. Altitude A/P's
> can easily be installed anytime. Using the search function for either of
> these A/P's, you can get diagrams. Other pics are also on the net.
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| Subject: | Re: BMA EFIS Light |
--> RV-List message posted by: David Leonard <wdleonard@gmail.com>
Yes, you hit the nail on the head. But if you call it a Beta version
it might sit easier. They are usually good about providing the
updates to the beta test recipients... like me in this case.
None the less I am glad to have it.... Its a great insturment even
without any future upgrades (brighter and more versitile than the
dynon.
Dave Leonard
> Dave,
>
> When you say the moving map is next to worthless and that BMA is still
> working on drift issues with the product, does this seem to be a
> continuation of BMA's fundamental problem - releasing product before it is
> fully developed?
>
> KB
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Leonard" <wdleonard@gmail.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 10:03 PM
> Subject: Re: RV-List: BMA EFIS Light
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: David Leonard <wdleonard@gmail.com>
> >
> > I have one (the EFIS G3 Lite), I like it alot and use it in IMC,
> > however that is only because I have a backup eletric AI (I use the
> > blumountain in HSI mode while in IMC). It does have some drift that I
> > think the company will work out. The moving map is next to worthless
> > right now, but will be improved.
> >
> > But the HSI is the best, brightest and most usefule you can get for
> > less than $10k, and it is only $2.7k
> >
> > Dave Leonard
> >
> > On 4/25/05, Valovich, Paul <pvalovich@dcscorp.com> wrote:
> >> --> RV-List message posted by: "Valovich, Paul" <pvalovich@dcscorp.com>
> >>
> >> When I called Blue Mountain Avionics last week to inquire about their
> >> EFIS Light, I was told 85 units had already been shipped. Does anyone
> >> have any comments regarding installation / operation / reliability? What
> >> about the autopilot option?
> >>
> >> Paul Valovich
> >>
> >> RV-8A QB Delivery Thursday
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Wm. David Leonard
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
--
Wm. David Leonard
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| Subject: | Anyone have a comparison of Garmin 296 and iQue3600a? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I haven't looked too close, but I thought the iQue lacked the output to
drive the AP. No?
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sportav8r@aol.com [mailto:sportav8r@aol.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 9:13 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Anyone have a comparison of Garmin 296 and
> iQue3600a?
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>
> Looking for a nice color GPS with terrain, obstacles & VNAV,
> capable of driving a Trio A/P. I know the 296 fits the bill
> nicely, but I'm wondering what the 296 offers that makes it
> worth $400 more than the iQue 3600a Palm offering form
> Garmin. They have the same screen resolution and size (one
> is portrait orientation, the other landscape, I suppose) but
> the PDA doubles as, well, a PDA. As a long time Handspringt
> and Palm user, I am trying to find the downside to owning a
> nice Palm that does everything I want a handheld aviation GPS
> to do, versus a dedicated aviation GPS for 400 bucks more
> that will not do much for me outside the airplane. Am I
> missing something here? What are the Palm's shortcomings?
> There must be something...
>
> -Stormy
>
>
> Photoshare, and much much more:
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Advice on using an off-set rivet set |
--> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
Hi folks
I have a single universal head -6 rivet to set. An offset set gives me a
much better angle to get to it. However, when I tried to use the thing in my
practice piece, it rotated and jumped and was generally nearly impossible to
control. Is there a trick to this?
Regards,
Michael Wynn
RV-8, Empennage
San Ramon, California
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kraut@engalt.com>
I thought I was going to get the BMA EFIS Lite until I saw just how useless
the moving map was at Sun and Fun. The idea of having to pay to update that
useless database also didn't appeal to me. Now I am leaning towards the GRT
unit and a color handheld with a real moving map. As the GRT people also
pointed out, the moving map in the BMA unit can't be used while using the AI
which makes it even more useless in IFR.
Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com
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| Subject: | Anyone have a comparison of Garmin 296 and |
iQue3600a?
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net> iQue3600a?
>I haven't looked too close, but I thought the iQue lacked the output to
>drive the AP. No?
If you check the specs it mentions RS232 so it MAY have the right output but
should be checked first.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re: Advice on using an off-set rivet set |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Just a guess, but what air pressure are you using ?. Too high will cause it
to "jump". Or as law enforcement officers say: Gun Control means using both
hands. 8*) KABONG Do Not Archive (GBA & GWB(
> --> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
>
> Hi folks
>
> I have a single universal head -6 rivet to set. An offset set gives me a
> much better angle to get to it. However, when I tried to use the thing in
> my
> practice piece, it rotated and jumped and was generally nearly impossible
> to
> control. Is there a trick to this?
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| Subject: | Advice on using an off-set rivet set |
--> RV-List message posted by:
The only reason that a rivet gun will jump on you is that the force pushing
it down onto the rivet head does not counteract the kickback. This can be
caused by either too much air pressure or your just being inattentive and
thereby slacking off.
Since you say that the gun jumps on your practice tests, therefore attention
not being an issue, I would presume that your pressure is way too high.
I mounted a small regulator (Avery) right on my 3X gun and adjust by feel -
less pressure for 3/32" rivets than for the 1/8" - don't ask me what the
pressure is - I don't know - and it is a moot issue - the real concern is
that it should be the right pressure to do the job.
Michle
RV8 - Fuselage
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MLWynn@aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 5:01 AM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Advice on using an off-set rivet set
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
>
> Hi folks
>
> I have a single universal head -6 rivet to set. An offset set gives me a
> much better angle to get to it. However, when I tried to use the thing in
> my
> practice piece, it rotated and jumped and was generally nearly impossible
> to
> control. Is there a trick to this?
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael Wynn
> RV-8, Empennage
> San Ramon, California
>
>
>
>
>
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