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1. 12:32 AM - Re: Belt Sander Question & Tool Resource (Jeff Point)
2. 04:24 AM - Re: Control sticks with bend/left-hand throttle quadrant (PSILeD@aol.com)
3. 06:19 AM - Re: Best website for posting builder log (Kevin Williams)
4. 07:22 AM - RV builders clinic (tpu2@juno.com)
5. 07:27 AM - Re: Best website for posting builder log (Speed 3 Guy)
6. 07:38 AM - 7(A) vs. 9(A) for XC flying (Paul Folbrecht)
7. 07:47 AM - Re: Fuel Purge Line Question (DAVID REEL)
8. 07:49 AM - Lefties Flying Right Handed (Valovich, Paul)
9. 08:17 AM - Re: Best website for posting builder log (cgalley)
10. 08:27 AM - Re: Belt Sander Question & Tool Resource ()
11. 09:40 AM - Re: Control sticks with bend/left-hand throttle quadrant (Bobby Hester)
12. 10:33 AM - Re: Belt Sander Question & Tool Resource (HCRV6@aol.com)
13. 11:58 AM - Re: Control sticks with bend/left-hand throttle quadrant (Paul Folbrecht)
14. 01:03 PM - Re: 3/16 rivets and a 2X gun (Jamie Painter)
15. 01:33 PM - Re: Best website for posting builder log (Paul Besing)
16. 07:02 PM - Re: Belt Sander Question & Tool Resource (Mark Grieve)
17. 07:50 PM - Re: Control sticks with bend/left-hand throttle quadrant (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
18. 09:00 PM - 7(A) vs. 9(A) for XC flying (Richard Scott)
19. 09:38 PM - Re: Control sticks with bend/left-hand throttle quadrant (Paul Folbrecht)
20. 11:02 PM - Re: 7(A) vs. 9(A) for XC flying (Paul Folbrecht)
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| Subject: | Re: Belt Sander Question & Tool Resource |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
I'd go for at least the 4 inch wide belt model at a minimum, and bigger
if you can afford it. They are great for shaping parts (poor mans
mill.) You do still have to shape parts on the 7, don't you? ')
Jeff Point
RV-6
Milwaukee WI
>Craftsman has a 2x42" belt / 6" disc unit that looks
>nice... will it do the job?
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| Subject: | Re: Control sticks with bend/left-hand throttle quadrant |
--> RV-List message posted by: PSILeD@aol.com
try www.rvwoody.com, he may not be doing iy anymore but he certainly does
excellent work.
Paul
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| Subject: | Re: Best website for posting builder log |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kevin Williams" <kevinsky18@hotmail.com>
I'm gearing up to start my project and want to get my builder log / webpage
started. My ISP doesnt provide webspace. What other cheap / free sites
are out there that will let me post lots of pictures ect and be relatively
user friendly.
Kevin
Yellowknife, NT, Canada
RV-8 Wanna Be Builder
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| Subject: | RV builders clinic |
--> RV-List message posted by: "tpu2@juno.com" <tpu2@juno.com>
An Indianapolis area builders assistance center is now conducting Basic RV construction
builders clinics. The first one is May 21-22. Details are available
at rv6grover@netzero.net or 317-919-6594.
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| Subject: | Best website for posting builder log |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Speed 3 Guy" <speed3guy@comcast.net>
Kevin,
I really like www.expercraft.com. It's free and simple. Here's a link to
my site on expercraft: http://websites.expercraft.com/geprevo/
Guy
I'm gearing up to start my project and want to get my builder log / webpage
started. My ISP doesnt provide webspace. What other cheap / free sites
are out there that will let me post lots of pictures ect and be relatively
user friendly.
Kevin
Yellowknife, NT, Canada
RV-8 Wanna Be Builder
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| Subject: | 7(A) vs. 9(A) for XC flying |
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Folbrecht <paulfolbrecht@yahoo.com>
I'm not asking a "decide-what-to-build" q here because my 7A quickbuild kit is
ordered and that's what I want. (I want the slightly better speed than the 9,
the ability to go 180hp, and, although I don't know if I'll ever actually want
to do "genleman's aerobatics" (I'm no gentleman, I've been told), I want to
retain that capability too.)
But, anyway, I see it thrown around a lot that the 9(A) is a "better" XC
machine than the 7(A), and I don't know if I buy that.
Stability is touted. I haven't flown in a 9, but it seems to me that the
shorter wing and slightly higher loading of the 6/7 might well offset any
inherently better pitch stability of the 9.
If the 6/7 holds pitch well when trimmed, which definitely seems to be the
case, that's what's really important. Any airplane needs attention to the roll
axis or it's going to wander into a spiral. Seems to me that what's more
important is stability in chop and turbulence and the 7 ought to do slightly
better there.
Thoughts?
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Purge Line Question |
--> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
Fuel purge line or fuel return line.
I've provided for a fuel return line in my RV8 tanks but have not decided
what to do with them. Simplest thing is to just plug them up if I chose not
to use them. However a thought occurred to me - why not use them as an
alternate vent tube - a back up on the original vent tube just in case it
plugs up. I could do this by running a line into the fuselage and tee off
to
the outside with a check valve so that flow should be only towards the tank.
The body of the T would be a vent with a check valve along the way, one arm
of the T would go to the fuel tank return and the other arm would be
plugged. If I do decide to use the fuel return line for returning fuel, I'd
put a dual level fuel selector valve (Andair) instead of a single level,
and
route returning fuel on the T. The vent back up would still serve its
function and the check valve would prevent fuel form going out instead of
being routed back into the tank it came from. This of course depends on the
quality of the check valve.
One detail, I built my fuel return so that the fuel returns into the top
most part in the rear of the last bay, near the filler cap.
This is just an idea - comments anyone?
It sounds to me like your fuel system is becoming overly complex, Michele. If
you don't need the return lines, eliminate everything related to them. You'll
have less joints to leak and valves to malfunction. Simplicity is very important
in the fuel system.
Dave Reel - RV8A
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| Subject: | Lefties Flying Right Handed |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Valovich, Paul" <pvalovich@dcscorp.com>
I'm a lefty - can't seem to do anything right handed. However, the Navy
taught me to fly with the throttle in my left hand and the stick in my
right. No problems - at least in becoming accustomed to the feel and
function of right handed tasking.
There was a meaningless line going around when I was in flight training:
If upon entering the cockpit you find the throttle in your right hand
and the stick up your butt, you've climbed in backwards.
Paul Valovich
RV-8A QB fus & wings delivered last Wednesday
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| Subject: | Re: Best website for posting builder log |
--> RV-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
I have used both Geo-Cities and Tripod. I just googled free websites and
this is a good source. http://www.freewebsiteproviders.com
Cy Galley - Bellanca Champion Club
Newsletter Editor-in-Chief & EAA TC
www.bellanca-championclub.com
Actively supporting Bellancas every day
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Williams" <kevinsky18@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Best website for posting builder log
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Kevin Williams" <kevinsky18@hotmail.com>
>
> I'm gearing up to start my project and want to get my builder log /
> webpage
> started. My ISP doesnt provide webspace. What other cheap / free sites
> are out there that will let me post lots of pictures ect and be relatively
> user friendly.
>
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> Kevin
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> Yellowknife, NT, Canada
> RV-8 Wanna Be Builder
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| Subject: | Belt Sander Question & Tool Resource |
--> RV-List message posted by: <kbob@cox.net>
Actually you can use your belt sander as a bench sander. I have mine resting on
its side secured in a wood jig. there is a 2x4 "bench" in front of the belt
to support parts. Photos available on request. Turn it on and use the trigger
lock to keep it running. This allows your hands to be free and work the parts.
Lift it out of the jig for handling like a "normal" belt sander. Best thing
- I already owned it - so it was free!
Kelly Patterson
PHX,AZ N716K
RV-6A FWF & cowling
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From: "Brad Oliver" <brad@rv7factory.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Belt Sander Question & Tool Resource
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brad Oliver" <brad@rv7factory.com>
Walter, you are correct, I was referring to the bench top belt/disc models.
Thanks,
Brad
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-----Original Message-----
I think you mean "bench" sander. I actually couldn't think of any
uses for a belt sander off hand. Harbor Freight has some nice
bench sanders for minimal cost.
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| Subject: | Re: Control sticks with bend/left-hand throttle quadrant |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bobby Hester <bhester@hopkinsville.net>
PSILeD@aol.com wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: PSILeD@aol.com
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>try www.rvwoody.com, he may not be doing iy anymore but he certainly does
>excellent work.
>Paul
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Here is the direct link to the bent stick: http://www.rvwoody.com/Stick.html
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Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY
Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/
RV7A Slowbuild wings-QB Fuse :-)
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| Subject: | Re: Belt Sander Question & Tool Resource |
--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
In a message dated 4/28/05 1:02:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
brad@rv7factory.com writes:
> My question is, in purchasing a belt sander, are their particular features
> I should look for or stay away from? Craftsman has a 2x42" belt / 6" disc
> unit that looks
> nice... will it do the job?
>
I used a one inch Craftsman belt sander with the finest grit I could buy from
day one on my RV-6 and found it to be one of the most useful tools I had. I
never had a need for a wider belt and never used the disc sander part of the
tool, but that's just me.
Harry Crosby
RV-6 N16CX, 68 hours
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| Subject: | Re: Control sticks with bend/left-hand throttle quadrant |
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Folbrecht <paulfolbrecht@yahoo.com>
That stick looks nice but it's not the one I'd seen - that one had a very wide,
forward "C" bend, very similar to the sticks in an OMF Symphony, if you've ever
seen one of those.
The shape keeps your lap free with the stick out of the way.
--- Bobby Hester <bhester@hopkinsville.net> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Bobby Hester <bhester@hopkinsville.net>
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> PSILeD@aol.com wrote:
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> >--> RV-List message posted by: PSILeD@aol.com
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> >try www.rvwoody.com, he may not be doing iy anymore but he certainly does
> >excellent work.
> >Paul
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> Here is the direct link to the bent stick: http://www.rvwoody.com/Stick.html
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> --
> Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY
> Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/
> RV7A Slowbuild wings-QB Fuse :-)
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| Subject: | Re: 3/16 rivets and a 2X gun |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jamie Painter" <jdpainter@jpainter.org>
> I have been looking at the lone 3/16 (fixed a boo-boo) rivet that I have to
> install in my forward HS spar. I have a 2X rivet gun. I have done a pile of
> practice rivets. The 2X drives the rivet okay, if a little slow. Someone had
> said that they wouldn't use less than a 4X gun for that size rivet. What
> exactly is the difference? Is there a bigger weight being popped by the
> pneumatics?
Michael:
Riveting the 3/16 rivets with a 2x will work OK in certain materials, but for
example on the wing rib to spar rivets, where you have the relatively thick
spar web material, you may find it very difficult to set them (seems that the
thicker material absorbs some of the impact force from the gun). I had a lot
of trouble doing this with my 2x, so I bought a 3x. For me, it made a world
of difference. Other folks have said that they used the 2x without a problem.
I now switch back and forth between the 2x and 3x guns.
I generally use the 2x on 3/32nd rivets and the 3x on the 3/16. But on the
bottom skins for example, where you are holding the bucking bar with a
contorted wrist, I found the 3x to be better for the 3/32nds simply because it
didn't take as long to set the rivets. As always, your mileage will vary.
Hope that helps,
Jamie
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RV-7A fuselage N622JP (reserved)
http://rv.jpainter.org
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| Subject: | Best website for posting builder log |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <paul@kitlog.com>
If you are using Kitlog Pro you will very soon be able to share your
builder's logs (as well as view others) at our website. Stay tuned in the
coming weeks. The function is already built into version 2.0, and is being
finalized on the website as we speak.
Paul Besing
RV-6A Sold
Kitlog Builder's Software
www.kitlog.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kevin Williams
Subject: Re: RV-List: Best website for posting builder log
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kevin Williams" <kevinsky18@hotmail.com>
I'm gearing up to start my project and want to get my builder log / webpage
started. My ISP doesnt provide webspace. What other cheap / free sites
are out there that will let me post lots of pictures ect and be relatively
user friendly.
Kevin
Yellowknife, NT, Canada
RV-8 Wanna Be Builder
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| Subject: | Re: Belt Sander Question & Tool Resource |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Grieve <mark@macomb.com>
Oh yes, you still have to shape parts on the 7. Rudder and elevator
stiffeners for example.
MG
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Jeff Point wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
>
>I'd go for at least the 4 inch wide belt model at a minimum, and bigger
>if you can afford it. They are great for shaping parts (poor mans
>mill.) You do still have to shape parts on the 7, don't you? ')
>
>Jeff Point
>RV-6
>Milwaukee WI
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| Subject: | Re: Control sticks with bend/left-hand throttle quadrant |
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
In a message dated 04/29/2005 12:59:58 PM Central Standard Time,
paulfolbrecht@yahoo.com writes:
That stick looks nice but it's not the one I'd seen - that one had a very
wide,
forward "C" bend,
>>
Sure you're not thinking about the sticks on the new RV-10? These have a
bend like you describe and are necessary for the different linkage required by
the stick being forward of the spar...
Mark - do not archive
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| Subject: | 7(A) vs. 9(A) for XC flying |
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Scott <rscott@cascadeaccess.com>
All I know is that when I ordered my 9 tail kit, Tom Green told me that
whenever the company folks went X-C, if they had their choice, they ALL
took the 9. That was before the 10 was flying.
Richard Scott
9A Wings
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| Subject: | Re: Control sticks with bend/left-hand throttle quadrant |
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Folbrecht <paulfolbrecht@yahoo.com>
Definitely not. I've flown in the IO-360 RV-10 and it does not have sticks
like that.
--- Fiveonepw@aol.com wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 04/29/2005 12:59:58 PM Central Standard Time,
> paulfolbrecht@yahoo.com writes:
> That stick looks nice but it's not the one I'd seen - that one had a very
> wide,
> forward "C" bend,
> >>
> Sure you're not thinking about the sticks on the new RV-10? These have a
> bend like you describe and are necessary for the different linkage required
> by
> the stick being forward of the spar...
>
> Mark - do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: 7(A) vs. 9(A) for XC flying |
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Folbrecht <paulfolbrecht@yahoo.com>
Blah! I've been doing my homework and obviously the 9 is going to be an
easier-to-fly IFR bird, with 3x the stick force for one thing.
I sent my 7A QB order form in yesterday. Well, it's certainly not too late. I
can call them on Monday. I am waiting for 2 months for shipping for my house
to be done anyway. I will probably call them and ask them to hold off
altogether for a bit. "Easy" IFR flying means a lot more to me than 10mph and
aerobatic capability I will probably never use.
Funny thing is the 9A is the first kitplane I ever wanted. If I end up
building one, I have certainly come full circle.
--- Richard Scott <rscott@cascadeaccess.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Scott <rscott@cascadeaccess.com>
>
> All I know is that when I ordered my 9 tail kit, Tom Green told me that
> whenever the company folks went X-C, if they had their choice, they ALL
> took the 9. That was before the 10 was flying.
>
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> Richard Scott
> 9A Wings
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