---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 05/21/05: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:24 AM - Checkoway Weather (Tony Marshall) 2. 08:30 AM - possible -6A for sale (Aircraft Technical Book Company) 3. 08:50 AM - Re: possible -6A for sale (linn walters) 4. 09:58 AM - Re: possible -6A for sale (Robin Marks) 5. 12:11 PM - Re: Checkoway Weather (oliver h washburn) 6. 06:17 PM - Re: Lycoming Gray Paint Code (Tom & Cathy Ervin) 7. 06:32 PM - New Internet Service! (PArita@aol.com) 8. 07:03 PM - Re: Checkoway Weather (RV6 Flyer) 9. 07:03 PM - Re: Checkoway Weather (Bob C.) 10. 07:56 PM - Slick ignition wire sets (John Porter) 11. 08:03 PM - Re: Checkoway Weather (Dan Checkoway) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:24:33 AM PST US From: "Tony Marshall" Subject: RV-List: Checkoway Weather --> RV-List message posted by: "Tony Marshall" A while ago, Dan introduced a really nice, concise, place from which to obtain weather information. I had forgotten how nice it was....and I for one really appreciate it....and of course I acknowledge all of the normal disclaimers. For those of you who haven't yet checked it out.... http://www.rvproject.com/wx/ Thanks Dan. Tony Marshall RV6 Polson, MT (yep!...in the clouds) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:30:28 AM PST US From: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" Subject: RV-List: possible -6A for sale --> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" I'm considering selling my 6A, but I'm not really sure what its worth. Its got: 180 hours TT on the Airframe 0-360 A4M (1150 SMOH) fixed prop VFR panel with EI engine monitor new Lightspeed ignition on one side, new slick mag on the other good condition in and out never damaged, always hangared ...and plenty of little things too long to mention here I'm thinking of selling cause I just don't fly it enough to justify the time and expense. My hundered dollar hamburgers are becoming thousand dollar hamburgers. Anyone want to chime in about approximately what it's worth? I'm also curious about what it typically being done to deal with the liability issue of selling an experimental aircraft. I figure, I'd include in the sale a fresh annual by someone other than myself. Is this enough? Andy Winter Park, CO ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:50:55 AM PST US From: linn walters Subject: Re: RV-List: possible -6A for sale --> RV-List message posted by: linn walters Aircraft Technical Book Company wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" > >I'm considering selling my 6A, but I'm not really sure what its worth. Its >got: > >180 hours TT on the Airframe >0-360 A4M (1150 SMOH) >fixed prop >VFR panel with EI engine monitor >new Lightspeed ignition on one side, new slick mag on the other >good condition in and out >never damaged, always hangared >...and plenty of little things too long to mention here > Compare your plane to others listed for sale in Trade-A-Plane. If you're an AOPA member, you can pick a factory-built that closely resembles a fast two-place airplane, add the radios and see what their appraisal program spits out. This will give you a starting point. The problem is, most of the appraisal sites do not track experimentals ..... and if they do, they're really way off. the other problem is (generally) that the airplane probably is worth more to the owner than to someone shopping for a plane, so be prepared to be disappointed. You'll probably find that the airplane will sell close to what you have invested ..... without all the labor etc. If you bought the airplane already built, you might get a little more than you paid for it ..... but realistically not much more since the engine has reached 1/2 of it's TBO. >I'm thinking of selling cause I just don't fly it enough to justify the time >and expense. My hundered dollar hamburgers are becoming thousand dollar >hamburgers. > You shouldn't have looked at the expenses that close. Better to remain ignorant like I do. Blissfully ignorant! >Anyone want to chime in about approximately what it's worth? > No. It would be a guess and I don't want to ruin your weekend. >I'm also curious about what it typically being done to deal with the >liability issue of selling an experimental aircraft. > Leave all the stuff off that you removed to do the conditional inspection .... cowl, tips (if they're not riveted on) seats and anything else ..... prop and wheels too ..... and sell the airplane as aircraft parts. You might surrender the N# if you're really paranoid, but that's not necessary. If you go that route, you may just explain to the buyer that he MAY be able to get the airplane inspected and get a builder repairmans certificate. I heard that some were doing that but be aware that the FAA frowns on inaccurate information (OK, I'm being nice here). Anyway, you get the picture. The buyer is purchasing an unairworthy airplane and you should take pictures with the buyer and the airplane parts ..... and then help him put it all together. > I figure, I'd include in the sale a fresh annual by someone other than myself. Is this enough? > Well, sounds like you built it (if you can do the conditional inspection (not an annual ..... semantics at work here) ..... but you may do the inspection with the new buyer present so he can learn everything he can so he can maintain it himself. That, to me, is a great selling point. Good luck, Linn (Valkaria Aircraft Brokers, INC) do not archive > >Andy >Winter Park, CO > > > > -- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:58:55 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: possible -6A for sale From: "Robin Marks" --> RV-List message posted by: "Robin Marks" One of the very best ways to get a "market price" for your RV-6A is to properly advertise it on eBaY. I have purchased and sold many large items on eBay including 4 airplanes and in my opinion it is about the best way to expose your plane to the largest number of people with an interest in buying a plane. You can set a reserve price below which you will not be obligated to sell your plane. I guarantee that a 6A will generate a fair amount of interest and that you will have extended conversations with interested parties about purchasing your plane. This is also an excellent time to offer your 6A as we are just entering flying season for the entire US. When I say "properly" advertise your RV that means plenty of pictures! Buyers want to see everything. To do this you should have proper lighting and the right environment to take the (digital) photos. A well shot plane can get more than it is worth while a poorly shot plane may not get any attention. I hate to say it but people buy based on emotion so the better the paint job the higher the price. A well written description that blends the features of the plane along with the emotion associated with owning the plane will both reduce the number of emails requesting additional information but may also hook the prospective buyer. Good luck, Robin San Luis Obispo, CA RV-4 (from eBay) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn walters Subject: Re: RV-List: possible -6A for sale --> RV-List message posted by: linn walters Aircraft Technical Book Company wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" > >I'm considering selling my 6A, but I'm not really sure what its worth. Its >got: > >180 hours TT on the Airframe >0-360 A4M (1150 SMOH) >fixed prop >VFR panel with EI engine monitor >new Lightspeed ignition on one side, new slick mag on the other >good condition in and out >never damaged, always hangared >...and plenty of little things too long to mention here > Compare your plane to others listed for sale in Trade-A-Plane. If you're an AOPA member, you can pick a factory-built that closely resembles a fast two-place airplane, add the radios and see what their appraisal program spits out. This will give you a starting point. The problem is, most of the appraisal sites do not track experimentals ..... and if they do, they're really way off. the other problem is (generally) that the airplane probably is worth more to the owner than to someone shopping for a plane, so be prepared to be disappointed. You'll probably find that the airplane will sell close to what you have invested ..... without all the labor etc. If you bought the airplane already built, you might get a little more than you paid for it ..... but realistically not much more since the engine has reached 1/2 of it's TBO. >I'm thinking of selling cause I just don't fly it enough to justify the time >and expense. My hundered dollar hamburgers are becoming thousand dollar >hamburgers. > You shouldn't have looked at the expenses that close. Better to remain ignorant like I do. Blissfully ignorant! >Anyone want to chime in about approximately what it's worth? > No. It would be a guess and I don't want to ruin your weekend. >I'm also curious about what it typically being done to deal with the >liability issue of selling an experimental aircraft. > Leave all the stuff off that you removed to do the conditional inspection .... cowl, tips (if they're not riveted on) seats and anything else ..... prop and wheels too ..... and sell the airplane as aircraft parts. You might surrender the N# if you're really paranoid, but that's not necessary. If you go that route, you may just explain to the buyer that he MAY be able to get the airplane inspected and get a builder repairmans certificate. I heard that some were doing that but be aware that the FAA frowns on inaccurate information (OK, I'm being nice here). Anyway, you get the picture. The buyer is purchasing an unairworthy airplane and you should take pictures with the buyer and the airplane parts ..... and then help him put it all together. > I figure, I'd include in the sale a fresh annual by someone other than myself. Is this enough? > Well, sounds like you built it (if you can do the conditional inspection (not an annual ..... semantics at work here) ..... but you may do the inspection with the new buyer present so he can learn everything he can so he can maintain it himself. That, to me, is a great selling point. Good luck, Linn (Valkaria Aircraft Brokers, INC) do not archive > >Andy >Winter Park, CO > > > > -- ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:11:51 PM PST US From: "oliver h washburn" Subject: RE: RV-List: Checkoway Weather --> RV-List message posted by: "oliver h washburn" I,ll second that, a great site. Ollie 6A Central Fl. > [Original Message] > From: Tony Marshall > To: > Date: 5/21/2005 9:23:16 AM > Subject: RV-List: Checkoway Weather > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Tony Marshall" > > A while ago, Dan introduced a really nice, concise, place from which to obtain weather information. I had forgotten how nice it was....and I for one really appreciate it....and of course I acknowledge all of the normal disclaimers. For those of you who haven't yet checked it out.... http://www.rvproject.com/wx/ > > Thanks Dan. > > Tony Marshall > RV6 > Polson, MT (yep!...in the clouds) > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:17:32 PM PST US From: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" Subject: Re: RV-List: Lycoming Gray Paint Code --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" Thanks Larry! I will see if they can mix it Monday Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "LARRY ADAMSON" Subject: Re: RV-List: Lycoming Gray Paint Code > --> RV-List message posted by: "LARRY ADAMSON" > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tom & Cathy Ervin > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: Lycoming Gray Paint Code > > > I have a can of Tempo Aviation Aircraft Engine Enamel. Has the number# > A-219 Lycoming Gray > > If that helps at all? > > >>List, Anyone have the Lycoming Engine Gray paint code handy? PPG or Dupont >>would be just fine. > > Thanks in advance, Tom in Ohio > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:32:13 PM PST US From: PArita@aol.com Subject: RV-List: New Internet Service! --> RV-List message posted by: PArita@aol.com I have switched my Internet service to BellSouth. The following e-mail address is effective immediately, so please change your address book and remember to e-mail me at this address in the future: parita@bellsouth.net. Thank you for taking the time to stay in contact! *************************************************************************************** To learn about all the communications services available to you, visit http://www.bellsouth.com. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:55 PM PST US From: "RV6 Flyer" Subject: RE: RV-List: Checkoway Weather --> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" I have been using the RVPROJECT.com WIRELESS version on my web enabled cell phone. The wireless RVPROJECT also has an N number lookup so you can find out who owns that RV on the ramp you just parked beside. Go try that one out when you are on a trip. Works great if you have cell coverage when you land. Thanks Dan. Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, 1,670 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Tony Marshall" Subject: RV-List: Checkoway Weather --> RV-List message posted by: "Tony Marshall" A while ago, Dan introduced a really nice, concise, place from which to obtain weather information. I had forgotten how nice it was....and I for one really appreciate it....and of course I acknowledge all of the normal disclaimers. For those of you who haven't yet checked it out.... http://www.rvproject.com/wx/ Thanks Dan. Tony Marshall RV6 Polson, MT (yep!...in the clouds) ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:55 PM PST US From: "Bob C. " Subject: Re: RV-List: Checkoway Weather --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob C. " I too think Dan's WX page is great! Regards, Bob On 5/21/05, Tony Marshall wrote: > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Tony Marshall" > > A while ago, Dan introduced a really nice, concise, place from which to > obtain weather information. I had forgotten how nice it was....and I for one > really appreciate it....and of course I acknowledge all of the normal > disclaimers. For those of you who haven't yet checked it out.... > http://www.rvproject.com/wx/ > > Thanks Dan. > > Tony Marshall > RV6 > Polson, MT (yep!...in the clouds) > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:56:39 PM PST US From: "John Porter" Subject: RV-List: Slick ignition wire sets --> RV-List message posted by: "John Porter" Hi, Looking for a recommendation for ignition wires. Have a Lyc AEIO-360-H1B with Slick mags. Looking at the sets at Aircraft Spruce. Thanks. John Porter RV-8 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:03:00 PM PST US From: "Dan Checkoway" Subject: Re: RV-List: Checkoway Weather --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" FYI, some "high tech" web-enabled handsets try to open up the regular web site. If you enter the URL "rvproject.com" in your handset and it does this, you can try forcing it to open up the wireless version by typing in the URL "rvproject.com/wapindex.wml". Also note that the web version has NOTAMs now, and a link to FAA published TFRs. I will probably add NOTAMs to the wireless version at some point. do not archive )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "RV6 Flyer" Subject: RE: RV-List: Checkoway Weather > --> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" > > I have been using the RVPROJECT.com WIRELESS version on my web enabled cell > phone. The wireless RVPROJECT also has an N number lookup so you can find > out who owns that RV on the ramp you just parked beside. > > Go try that one out when you are on a trip. Works great if you have cell > coverage when you land. > > Thanks Dan. > > > Gary A. Sobek > "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, > 1,670 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA > http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Tony Marshall" > To: > Subject: RV-List: Checkoway Weather > Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 07:23:02 -0600 > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Tony Marshall" > > A while ago, Dan introduced a really nice, concise, place from which to > obtain weather information. I had forgotten how nice it was....and I for > one really appreciate it....and of course I acknowledge all of the normal > disclaimers. For those of you who haven't yet checked it out.... > http://www.rvproject.com/wx/ > > Thanks Dan. > > Tony Marshall > RV6 > Polson, MT (yep!...in the clouds) > >