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1. 12:28 AM - Ameri-King defective ELT from the box (Greg Grigson)
2. 04:01 AM - Re: Fuel Selector Malfunction (PGLong@aol.com)
3. 06:15 AM - Re: RV-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 05/22/05 (Kdh347@aol.com)
4. 06:48 AM - plans table (Frazier, Vincent A)
5. 07:35 AM - Re: Hanging Plans (cecilth@juno.com)
6. 10:27 AM - Re: New Rule N 8700.42 (Dale Ensing)
7. 10:59 AM - Re: Ameri-King defective ELT from the box (sportav8r@AOL.COM)
8. 01:17 PM - AOA indicator? (Paul Folbrecht)
9. 02:30 PM - Re: AOA indicator? (linn walters)
10. 03:29 PM - Re: AOA indicator? (James Ochs)
11. 04:10 PM - Re: AOA indicator? (DonVS)
12. 04:35 PM - Slick mag wires (John Porter)
13. 05:16 PM - Re: AOA indicator? (Paul Folbrecht)
14. 07:03 PM - Re: AOA indicator? (JOHN STARN)
15. 07:03 PM - Re: AOA indicator? (DonVS)
16. 08:16 PM - Re: AOA indicator? (Tedd McHenry)
17. 09:25 PM - Re: Slick mag wires (Larry Bowen)
18. 09:25 PM - Re: AOA indicator? (Larry Bowen)
19. 09:46 PM - Re: AOA indicator? (Barry Chapman)
20. 09:50 PM - Re: AOA indicator? (RobHickman@aol.com)
21. 10:05 PM - Re: New Rule N 8700.42 (Mike Robertson)
22. 11:42 PM - Re: AOA indicator? (linn walters)
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Subject: | Ameri-King defective ELT from the box |
--> RV-List message posted by: Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com>
Guys,
I dont know what your experiences are with Ameri-King
these days, but BE WARNED. The company recently lost
its incorporated status in the state of California.
Apparently its not the same company it used to be
(very poor grammar indeed!, and the customer service
reflects--I lost $200. Read below:
Dear Greg:
Thank you for your Email today, the ELT P/N AK-450 is
warranty 2 years from the date of Purchased. This
warranty can be found in the manual P/N IM450 or in
the warranty form to be completed whenever purchased
the ELT P/N AK-450.
This 2 years warranty is much more better than any
avionics instruments, equipment manufacturers
available in USA.
You can repair or replacement to an overhaul ELT for
only $129.00 ea.
If you decide to replace to the new ELT then the
special deal cost to the dealer is only $169.00 ea. we
accept credit card Master card, Visa, American Express
payment.
Please accept our sincere appreciation for your
interest in AMERI-KING'S products.
Best Regards,
VICTOR VAN
SALES MANAGER
Dear Sir,
I am following up on a conversation I had May 17 with
one of your customer service employees. I bought an
ELT for use in my experimental airplane in 2001 when
it came time to install it, the device turned out to
be defective, resulting in an uncontrollable beacon.
Your representative informed me, however, that since
the warranty had expired, I would have no recourse but
to pay $125 to repair a unit that was defective in the
box.
This is clearly a ridiculous proposition, since the
most fundamental expectation of any product purchased
under any circumstances is that it not be defective
before it has even been used!
Moreover, since you sell many products specifically
for use in home-built aircraft, you are well aware of
the normal time frame for building and testing
components- the impossibility of knowing beforehand
how long the building process will take, and when one
will be able to test any product that has to be
installed.
I am fully prepared to pursue this breach of trust
through consumer protection channels, but I would much
rather that someone in your organization with
executive foresight make reasonable amends for this
unreasonable dodging of responsibility, and act to
safeguard your reputation.
Sincerely,
Greg Grigson
Honolulu
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Subject: | Re: Fuel Selector Malfunction |
--> RV-List message posted by: PGLong@aol.com
Had the same problem with my RV4. Thought I'd either break the handle or be
unable to switch tanks and have the same problem you almost had. I changed the
whole valve and put in a two position Andair valve. Boy do I like it. No
more pucker factor and such smooth operation. Would do it all over again in a
minute. Took the old valve and showed the problem to a hangar mate I was unable
to budge it after it sat all winter with both hands. Dodged another
bullet...
Pat Long
PGLong@aol.com
N120PL
RV4
Bay City, Michigan
3CM
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Subject: | Re: RV-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 05/22/05 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kdh347@aol.com
Please remove me from list.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
I have my plans on an old piece of junk that, after I cobbled it
together, looks like a small drafting table. Basically, I used an old
wheel rim, a piece of pipe and a 3' x 4' scrap of plywood to build it.
The bottom edge of the table has a lip to keep stuff from rolling off.
The plans are held to the top edge of the plywood with a few large
binder clips that you can get from Office Depot. It works very well.
http://www.usi.edu/science/chemistry/vfrazier/2003-09-17/rudder%20socket
%20filling.jpg
the plans table is on the left side of the photo.
(Paste the link back together if it wraps onto two lines in your email
program. It is a GOOD link.)
Vince
Oops... I forgot an important detail. You'll notice that I added a tab
to the bottom edge of each bluepint sheet. Each tab identifies what is
on that particular sheet. You'll save gobs of time if you do this
immediately after you get the plans. No hunting through the sheets to
find the one you need.
I suppose that the hanging plans that another lister showed would be OK
for a small shop. It looks like you'd be spending quite a bit of time
standing there studying the plans with a bunch of sheets either on your
head or a tired arm from holding them up. Not quite so optimal there.
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Subject: | Re: Hanging Plans |
--> RV-List message posted by: cecilth@juno.com
Here is one way.
String a few 'closelines' of wire about 3 inches apart
Tape each of the few plans you will use at one time to thin sticks at the
top.
Run them on the wire one in front of the other.
Then just slide the one you are interested in to the part of the shop you
need it.
Cecil
On Thu, 19 May 2005 22:50:30 -0700 "Brad Oliver" <brad@rv7factory.com>
writes:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Brad Oliver" <brad@rv7factory.com>
>
> I seem to remember seeing (on someone's web site) a cool way to hang
> the
> plans that allowed the builder to flip pages easily, but I can't
> find it
> again. Anybody know what I am talking about, or have another good
> way to
> hang them (on wall)?
>
> Thanks,
> Brad
> RV-7 Emp Kit Arrived Today - Waiting on Tools
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: New Rule N 8700.42 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
What about a tail wheel endorsement? I started flying my tail wheel
homebuilt and my C170 before an endorsement was required. Is it included in
the new rule?
Dale Ensing
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Subject: | Re: Ameri-King defective ELT from the box |
--> RV-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
I went through the same thing in 1998 (mustbe in the list archives somewhere...)
identical circumstances, but they did relent and fix it for free.
This problem can be caused from substituting a conventional phone cord for the
crossover-wired cord supplied with the unit, if I recall correctly. Be careful
to maintain polarity if you decide to cut the cord to shorten it, or to roll
your own with crimped connectors.
Meanwhile, I'm afraid to test my ELT annually, for fear it will become stuck on
again as has happened before. Victor hasn't changed a bit, apparently, and it's
catching up to him.
-Stormy
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV-List: Ameri-King defective ELT from the box
--> RV-List message posted by: Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com>
Guys,
I dont know what your experiences are with Ameri-King
these days, but BE WARNED. The company recently lost
its incorporated status in the state of California.
Apparently its not the same company it used to be
(very poor grammar indeed!, and the customer service
reflects--I lost $200. Read below:
Dear Greg:
Thank you for your Email today, the ELT P/N AK-450 is
warranty 2 years from the date of Purchased. This
warranty can be found in the manual P/N IM450 or in
the warranty form to be completed whenever purchased
the ELT P/N AK-450.
This 2 years warranty is much more better than any
avionics instruments, equipment manufacturers
available in USA.
You can repair or replacement to an overhaul ELT for
only $129.00 ea.
If you decide to replace to the new ELT then the
special deal cost to the dealer is only $169.00 ea. we
accept credit card Master card, Visa, American Express
payment.
Please accept our sincere appreciation for your
interest in AMERI-KING'S products.
Best Regards,
VICTOR VAN
SALES MANAGER
Dear Sir,
I am following up on a conversation I had May 17 with
one of your customer service employees. I bought an
ELT for use in my experimental airplane in 2001 when
it came time to install it, the device turned out to
be defective, resulting in an uncontrollable beacon.
Your representative informed me, however, that since
the warranty had expired, I would have no recourse but
to pay $125 to repair a unit that was defective in the
box.
This is clearly a ridiculous proposition, since the
most fundamental expectation of any product purchased
under any circumstances is that it not be defective
before it has even been used!
Moreover, since you sell many products specifically
for use in home-built aircraft, you are well aware of
the normal time frame for building and testing
components- the impossibility of knowing beforehand
how long the building process will take, and when one
will be able to test any product that has to be
installed.
I am fully prepared to pursue this breach of trust
through consumer protection channels, but I would much
rather that someone in your organization with
executive foresight make reasonable amends for this
unreasonable dodging of responsibility, and act to
safeguard your reputation.
Sincerely,
Greg Grigson
Honolulu
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--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Folbrecht <paulfolbrecht@yahoo.com>
I'm wondering if an AOA indicator is something I'm really going to want or not.
My thoughts are that $800 is a bit of a large chunk of change for this
functionality. I have not ever felt a problem flying by ASI and feel - never
relied on a spam-can stall-horn to keep me out of trouble anyway.
Are there people that think it would be foolish to equip an aircraft with no
stall-warning system at all save my own senses?
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Subject: | Re: AOA indicator? |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
Paul Folbrecht wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Folbrecht <paulfolbrecht@yahoo.com>
>
>I'm wondering if an AOA indicator is something I'm really going to want or not.
> My thoughts are that $800 is a bit of a large chunk of change for this
>functionality. I have not ever felt a problem flying by ASI and feel - never
>relied on a spam-can stall-horn to keep me out of trouble anyway.
>
>Are there people that think it would be foolish to equip an aircraft with no
>stall-warning system at all save my own senses?
>
I, for one, won't have a stall warning horn nor an AOA indicator. Just
my viewpoint. IMHO, and YMMV.
Linn
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Subject: | Re: AOA indicator? |
--> RV-List message posted by: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org>
Hrm. Personally I would want some sort of stall warning device just for
that one time that something distracts me enough to get out of whack.
Hasn't happened to me yet, but given enough time I figure it probably
will and it doesn't hurt to have something blatt in your ear to let you
know you are getting close to the edge ;) I don't really see it as a
primary instrument, more along the lines of tying a string around your
finger to remember something....
James
Paul Folbrecht wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Folbrecht <paulfolbrecht@yahoo.com>
>
>I'm wondering if an AOA indicator is something I'm really going to want or not.
> My thoughts are that $800 is a bit of a large chunk of change for this
>functionality. I have not ever felt a problem flying by ASI and feel - never
>relied on a spam-can stall-horn to keep me out of trouble anyway.
>
>Are there people that think it would be foolish to equip an aircraft with no
>stall-warning system at all save my own senses?
>
>
>
>
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There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself
at the ground and miss. Douglas Adams, 'The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy'
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--> RV-List message posted by: "DonVS" <dsvs@comcast.net>
The two fuels may give you different readings, but you can always calibrate
the system to the type of fuel you use.
Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of linn walters
Subject: Re: RV-List: AOA indicator?
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
Paul Folbrecht wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Folbrecht <paulfolbrecht@yahoo.com>
>
>I'm wondering if an AOA indicator is something I'm really going to want or
not.
> My thoughts are that $800 is a bit of a large chunk of change for this
>functionality. I have not ever felt a problem flying by ASI and feel -
never
>relied on a spam-can stall-horn to keep me out of trouble anyway.
>
>Are there people that think it would be foolish to equip an aircraft with
no
>stall-warning system at all save my own senses?
>
I, for one, won't have a stall warning horn nor an AOA indicator. Just
my viewpoint. IMHO, and YMMV.
Linn
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>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "John Porter" <december29@bellsouth.net>
Hi,
Repeat question on mag ignition wires. Slick mags on a Lycoming AEIO-360H1B.
Any recommends on wire sets? I know it's not as interesting as power on vs
power off apphs or IFR vs VFR panels but still would appreciate any info. Thanks.
John Porter
80002 (worlds oldest -8 kit not yet flying..........slowly getting there)
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Subject: | Re: AOA indicator? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Folbrecht <paulfolbrecht@yahoo.com>
--- James Ochs <jochs@froody.org> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org>
>
> Hrm. Personally I would want some sort of stall warning device just for
> that one time that something distracts me enough to get out of whack.
> Hasn't happened to me yet, but given enough time I figure it probably
> will and it doesn't hurt to have something blatt in your ear to let you
> know you are getting close to the edge ;) I don't really see it as a
> primary instrument, more along the lines of tying a string around your
> finger to remember something....
Perhaps a string tied to the finger connected to a leading edge vane that would
flex as critical AOA was neared could be a more economical solution..?
In the scope of this project $800 isn't a lot to dwell on but everything adds
up.
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Subject: | Re: AOA indicator? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
We have AOA in HRII N561FS. We installed the indicator on the upper right of
the panel. As we found out later Gummibear looks out the left side of the
Rocket during final & in flare. The lights are bright enough to be seen in
the canopy reflection and when Tom "shifts" to the left I have a full view
of it. IF there to be a problem on final (lots of wind shear & higher
density altitude readings at APV in the summer time) I fill in for the
audio warning. If we reach full flare w/o at least all yellow & one
flickering red we have a tendency to bounce. Doesn't happen very often any
more. IF you put in an AOA make sure you put it where you can see it.
Gummi does wheel landings in a tail low "three point" attitude but not three
pointed. Tail wheel is approx 12" to 18" off the runway KABONG Do Not
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Subject: Re: RV-List: AOA indicator?
> --> RV-List message posted by: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org>
>
> Hrm. Personally I would want some sort of stall warning device just for
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--> RV-List message posted by: "DonVS" <dsvs@comcast.net>
Sorry, this was a reply to another post
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of DonVS
Subject: RE: RV-List: AOA indicator?
--> RV-List message posted by: "DonVS" <dsvs@comcast.net>
The two fuels may give you different readings, but you can always calibrate
the system to the type of fuel you use.
Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of linn walters
Subject: Re: RV-List: AOA indicator?
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
Paul Folbrecht wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Folbrecht <paulfolbrecht@yahoo.com>
>
>I'm wondering if an AOA indicator is something I'm really going to want or
not.
> My thoughts are that $800 is a bit of a large chunk of change for this
>functionality. I have not ever felt a problem flying by ASI and feel -
never
>relied on a spam-can stall-horn to keep me out of trouble anyway.
>
>Are there people that think it would be foolish to equip an aircraft with
no
>stall-warning system at all save my own senses?
>
I, for one, won't have a stall warning horn nor an AOA indicator. Just
my viewpoint. IMHO, and YMMV.
Linn
do not archive
>
>
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Subject: | Re: AOA indicator? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
I think AOA gauges are great, and I'd love to see them in training airplanes.
But thinking back over the last several years I realized that it has been a
very long time since I've flown an airplane with either AOA or a stall warning,
and I can't say I've missed either.
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC, Canada
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
There is a table in Aircraft Spruce's catalog to help decide which harness
is right based on model of engine/mag. Been there, done that just recently.
If you get stuck call 'em and they will walk you through it.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Porter [mailto:december29@bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 5:57 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Slick mag wires
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "John Porter"
> <december29@bellsouth.net>
>
> Hi,
> Repeat question on mag ignition wires. Slick mags on a
> Lycoming AEIO-360H1B. Any recommends on wire sets? I know
> it's not as interesting as power on vs power off apphs or IFR
> vs VFR panels but still would appreciate any info. Thanks.
>
> John Porter
> 80002 (worlds oldest -8 kit not yet flying..........slowly
> getting there)
>
>
> Photoshare, and much much more:
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I reference mine all the time. No regrets getting it. You can't take it
with you, so spend it on avionics.
-
Larry Bowen, RV-8, AOA Sport.
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> >--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Folbrecht
> <paulfolbrecht@yahoo.com>
> >
> >I'm wondering if an AOA indicator is something I'm really
> going to want
> >or
> not.
> > My thoughts are that $800 is a bit of a large chunk of
> change for this
> >functionality. I have not ever felt a problem flying by ASI
> and feel -
> never
> >relied on a spam-can stall-horn to keep me out of trouble anyway.
> >
> >Are there people that think it would be foolish to equip an aircraft
> >with
> no
> >stall-warning system at all save my own senses?
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Subject: | Re: AOA indicator? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Barry Chapman" <bcrnfnps@swoi.net>
Linn,
Why not have one? I am new to this sort of thing and would like to hear
what rationale you may have for this decision. TIA
Barry Chapman
Student
----- Original Message -----
From: "linn walters" <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: AOA indicator?
> I, for one, won't have a stall warning horn nor an AOA indicator. Just
> my viewpoint. IMHO, and YMMV.
> Linn
> do not archive
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Subject: | Re: AOA indicator? |
--> RV-List message posted by: RobHickman@aol.com
I obviously don=E2=80=99t have an unbiased opinion but here is my story anyway:
When I finished my RV-4 I did not buy an AOA for it, it was expensive and I
did not really understand it anyway as I had been taught to fly airspeed
only. After I had a friend killed in a stall spin accident in his RV, I decided
that I needed install a stall warning system in my RV as an added safety
measure. I called Jim Frantz and ordered his AOA Pro system. After installing
the system I was very pleased with how it worked as a stall warning system. I
was even more surprised as how useful it was as a reference for landing and
takeoff. The AOA will tell you your best approach angle of attack regardless
of gross weight, bank angle, and altitude. You will find that you will make
better and more consistent landings when you use the AOA.
The AOA will also give you L/D max regardless of gross weight, bank angle,
and altitude which gives you Vy and best engine out glide.
We find that pilots that have been in the Navy and have used AOA are the
easiest to sell to. I have even had Navy Pilots tell me that they will not get
into a plane without an AOA.
Here is a good article that Jerry VanGrunsven helped write:
_http://www.advanced-control-systems.com/AOAarticles/KitPlanes%20Article.pdf_
(http://www.advanced-control-systems.com/AOAarticles/KitPlanes%20Article.pdf)
Last year I got the opportunity to purchase the AOA product line from Jim
Frantz and have added it to our existing product line.
A stall warning system that does not have an audible warning is not going to
help you if you get into trouble. Also if you modify the Airfoil (put the
flaps down) you will change the AOA performance values and your AOA instrument
had better take this into account to be accurate.
Rob Hickman
www.Advanced-Flight-Systems.com
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Subject: | Re: New Rule N 8700.42 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
You are grandfathered. You do not need a "new" endorsement. This new rule
is only about category and class ratings.
Mike Robertson
>From: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: New Rule N 8700.42
>Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 10:04:09 -0400
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
>
>What about a tail wheel endorsement? I started flying my tail wheel
>homebuilt and my C170 before an endorsement was required. Is it included in
>the new rule?
>Dale Ensing
>do not archive
>
>
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Subject: | Re: AOA indicator? |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
Rob, some comments:
RobHickman@aol.com wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: RobHickman@aol.com
>
>
>I obviously don=E2=80=99t have an unbiased opinion but here is my story anyway:
>When I finished my RV-4 I did not buy an AOA for it, it was expensive and I
>did not really understand it anyway as I had been taught to fly airspeed
>only. After I had a friend killed in a stall spin accident in his RV, I decided
>that I needed install a stall warning system in my RV as an added safety
>measure.
>
In my post to Barry, this is what I was referring to .... flying on the
edge. My first airplane was a Grumman AA-1B ..... the Yankee with
improved stall characteristics due to an airfoil change. They're slick,
but not as fast as an RV-4 ;-) . But I digress. the Yankee gained a
reputation as a widomaker because of approach to landing stall/spin
accidents. Not the airplanes fault ..... the fault was due to pilots
transitioning from C-150s without being properly checked out. The
Grumman requires a little more airspeed on final because the'll sink
really fast when slowed up. Most pilots will pull the nose up to arrest
the sink, stall, spin, and impact mother earth in a near-vertical
attitude. Predictable as sunrise. Here's an example of multiple
training failures .... in an airplane that has two distinct warnings
prior to stall. First the laminar flow starts to separate, and the
noise sounds like someone banging on the wing. Then as the stall
progresses, the horn goes off. Then, if the pilot is really stubborn,
it will stall. My point here is that, even with two warnings, both
audible, the pilot continued to pull the nose up because that's what
makes an airplane go up and the ground is getting closer faster.
> I called Jim Frantz and ordered his AOA Pro system. After installing
>the system I was very pleased with how it worked as a stall warning system.
I
>was even more surprised as how useful it was as a reference for landing and
>takeoff. The AOA will tell you your best approach angle of attack regardless
>of gross weight, bank angle, and altitude. You will find that you will make
>better and more consistent landings when you use the AOA.
>The AOA will also give you L/D max regardless of gross weight, bank angle,
>and altitude which gives you Vy and best engine out glide.
>We find that pilots that have been in the Navy and have used AOA are the
>easiest to sell to. I have even had Navy Pilots tell me that they will not get
>into a plane without an AOA.
>
AOAs are also good for airliners too, but we don't have anything near as
sophisticated as a military jet or a 747. Landing a big fighter on a
little postage stamp bobbing in the water requires precision that we, as
general aviation pilots really don't need. That's just my opinion, and
I'm not saying that to kill a sale. By all means, if you think you'll
be safer with an AOA unit .... plunk down your cash. You may just be right.
>Here is a good article that Jerry VanGrunsven helped write:
>_http://www.advanced-control-systems.com/AOAarticles/KitPlanes%20Article.pdf_
>(http://www.advanced-control-systems.com/AOAarticles/KitPlanes%20Article.pdf)
>
>Last year I got the opportunity to purchase the AOA product line from Jim
>Frantz and have added it to our existing product line.
>
I've looked critically at your AOA, and I'm impressed with it's
abilities. I'm just not sure that it's a necessary item for me.
>A stall warning system that does not have an audible warning is not going to
>help you if you get into trouble. Also if you modify the Airfoil (put the
>flaps down) you will change the AOA performance values and your AOA instrument
>had better take this into account to be accurate.
>
And that's what impressed me about the unit. That's about the best
selling point ..... IMHO
Linn
do not archive
>Rob Hickman
>www.Advanced-Flight-Systems.com
>
>
>
>
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