Today's Message Index:
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1. 04:31 AM - RV-4 brakes (Kosta Lewis)
2. 05:57 AM - Re:RV-4 brakes (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
3. 06:00 AM - Re: leaking lycoming intake tube (Larry Bowen)
4. 06:13 AM - Re:howling brake noise (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
5. 07:00 AM - Question Re: Tru Trak (John Lawson)
6. 07:00 AM - Re: leaking lycoming intake tube (Ron Lee)
7. 07:59 AM - New Owner of Jeff Rose's Electroair Ignition Sytems (Ron Brown)
8. 08:43 AM - Re: Question Re: Tru Trak (Bob Collins)
9. 08:43 AM - Re: Question Re: Tru Trak (J. R. Dial)
10. 08:47 AM - Re: Question Re: Tru Trak (Chuck Jensen)
11. 10:09 AM - Langley Fly-in, June 4 (Tedd McHenry)
12. 10:55 AM - Re: Question Re: Tru Trak (LarryRobertHelming)
13. 12:03 PM - Re: Question Re: Tru Trak (David Schaefer)
14. 02:58 PM - RV-6 or 6A wanted (Doug Weiler)
15. 03:03 PM - Looking for governor adapter cover for O-360 (Roberto Giusti)
16. 05:13 PM - Re: Wing / Horiz. stab incidence (elsa-henry)
17. 05:35 PM - RV-6a wing incidence angle ()
18. 06:05 PM - Re: RV-6a wing incidence angle (Alex Peterson)
19. 08:32 PM - Re: RV-6a wing incidence angle (John)
20. 08:32 PM - Re: RV-6a wing incidence angle (Jeff Orear)
21. 08:36 PM - Re: RV-6 or 6A wanted (Ron Lee)
22. 08:57 PM - RV - Intervention (Tom Gummo)
23. 09:04 PM - F-601Z (Darrell Reiley)
24. 10:06 PM - Re: Looking for governor adapter cover for O-360 (HCRV6@aol.com)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Kosta Lewis" <mikel@dimensional.com>
There were also several lengths of master cylinder return springs that
came out, one set of which were too short. Look in the archives or the
old RVaitors and find the measurement for the correct length. You take
the spring off and measure it. Van's would know the correct length and
could tell you over the phone or by e-mail.
Also: make sure the geometry of the brake set up is correct. If you
didn't build this airplane, sometimes the brackets that hold the master
cylinder will have the holes in the wrong place or not be the correct
shape in the first place. Check your setup with what is called for in
the plans. Also: if the brake shoes are worn enough, the pucks in the
slave cylinder may not retract fully back into the calipers and cause
the brakes to drag.
Just some ideas.
Michael
RV-4 N232 Suzie Q
>Last week I started my RV4 for the first time and found a brake
problem. >The brakes are applied when the rudder petals are moved left
or right. I >first thought it was my big feet but today while pulling it
back in the >hangar with my new Bogart Aviation towbar I found the
brakes are applied >with a small movement of the rudder. Anyone had this
problem? Anyone with a
>suggestion?
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--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
I read the stories on RV-4 brake springs and mine were dragging. I just
took off the springs and generously stretched them. The amount of tension to
operate the brake isn't critical.
Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
Charleston,Arkansas
Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
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| Subject: | leaking lycoming intake tube |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I had the same thing on mine recently. I checked the torque on those two
bolts...problem gone. If that doesn't work, check your Lyc. overhaul or
parts manual for part number. Maint. facilty at at/near your arpt probably
has one in stock. Probably less than $2.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy Garrett
> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 9:45 PM
> To: RV-List@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: leaking lycoming intake tube
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Garrett"
> --> <rgarrett@objectsciences.com>
>
> While changing the oil, I noticed blue fuel stains on the
> intake tube for cylinder #4 on my O-360-A1A. Checked with my
> local A&P, and he said the gasket where the tube goes into
> the cylinder is probably leaking. That certainly appears to
> be the case.
>
>
> A few questions:
>
>
> Where's a good source for the gasket (an actual part number
> would be good
> too)
>
>
> Any special tricks or traps I should beware of? Looks like
> it should be straightforward to unbolt the tube and unscrew
> the worm gear clamps holding the rubber sleeve over the
> bottom of the tube.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Randy
>
> RV-6A
>
> 540 hours
>
>
> Photoshare, and much much more:
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re:howling brake noise |
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
Check for sleeping cats in wheel fairings ?
obviously: do not archive
Bob olds
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| Subject: | Question re: Tru Trak |
--> RV-List message posted by: John Lawson <rv6builder48138@yahoo.com>
I've tried to contact Tru Trak three times thru their
web site, with no response. Has anyone else had the
same problem?
My question to them: I'm partway thru building the
left wing of my RV-6. If I choose to install a Tru
Trak product, is there anything I need to/can install
in the wing, while I'm working on it?
John
__________________________________
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| Subject: | leaking lycoming intake tube |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
I believe that you can also find the part number in an Aircraft Spruce
catalog.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | New Owner of Jeff Rose's Electroair Ignition Sytems |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Brown" <romott@adelphia.net>
I ran across the new web site this morning (thanks Google!!!)
http://www.electroair.net/
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| Subject: | Question re: Tru Trak |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net>
//My question to them: I'm partway thru building the
left wing of my RV-6. If I choose to install a Tru
Trak product, is there anything I need to/can install
in the wing, while I'm working on it?
Try the telephone! (g). That answer is easy. You can install the servo unit
in the wing. You can run wires if you want too. I think just about every
homebuilder installing a TruTrak is installing them during construction of
the wing.
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| Subject: | Question re: Tru Trak |
--> RV-List message posted by: "J. R. Dial" <jrdial@hal-pc.org>
I have never had a problem contacting them and I am 100%
satisfied with their product in my RV6. I did mount my servo in the
fuselage with the kit they supply and it performs perfectly. Try giving
them a call.
N89DD
DO NOT ARCHIVE
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Lawson
Subject: RV-List: Question re: Tru Trak
--> RV-List message posted by: John Lawson <rv6builder48138@yahoo.com>
I've tried to contact Tru Trak three times thru their
web site, with no response. Has anyone else had the
same problem?
My question to them: I'm partway thru building the
left wing of my RV-6. If I choose to install a Tru
Trak product, is there anything I need to/can install
in the wing, while I'm working on it?
John
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| Subject: | Question re: Tru Trak |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com>
I wouldn't give up. They get undated with calls/emails, especially tire-kicker
questions. Fortunately, the couple times I had questions about my TruTrak after
installation, I've always gotten prompt responses and excellent turn-around
when it appeared a gyro was bad (they actually sent out a replacement A/P without
a deposit on the promise I would send in my unit asap--not a universal practice
in the industry!), so don't give up. Good A/P and good people...by my
experience.
Chuck
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John Lawson
Subject: RV-List: Question re: Tru Trak
--> RV-List message posted by: John Lawson <rv6builder48138@yahoo.com>
I've tried to contact Tru Trak three times thru their
web site, with no response. Has anyone else had the
same problem?
My question to them: I'm partway thru building the
left wing of my RV-6. If I choose to install a Tru
Trak product, is there anything I need to/can install
in the wing, while I'm working on it?
John
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| Subject: | Langley Fly-in, June 4 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
The annual Western Canada Wing fly-in is next Saturday, June 4, at CYNJ. Gus
Funnell, from Van's Aircraft, will be there, giving a seminar on RV building
along with builders Bob Cutting and Vern Little. There will also be a seminar
on regs and paperwork by Terry Elgood and George McNutt. For more information,
see our web page at http://www.vansairforce.org/CYNJ/.
Hope to see you all there!
---
Tedd McHenry
Van's Air Force
Western Canada Wing
tedd@vansairforce.org
www.vansairforce.org
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| Subject: | Re: Question re: Tru Trak |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
Think about it. You the pilot sit on the left side of the plane. That
makes the left wing seem heavy. Why add more weight to the left wing.
Besides you have the pitot line there. Better to put tru trac servo in the
right wing.
Indiana Larry, RV7 Tip Up Flying it almost as much fun as building
it.......NOT.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Lawson" <rv6builder48138@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV-List: Question re: Tru Trak
> --> RV-List message posted by: John Lawson <rv6builder48138@yahoo.com>
>
> I've tried to contact Tru Trak three times thru their
> web site, with no response. Has anyone else had the
> same problem?
>
> My question to them: I'm partway thru building the
> left wing of my RV-6. If I choose to install a Tru
> Trak product, is there anything I need to/can install
> in the wing, while I'm working on it?
>
> John
>
>
> __________________________________
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Question re: Tru Trak |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Schaefer" <dschaefer1@kc.rr.com>
Just call them! They are more than happy to speak with builders. However,
why put it in the wing? It's a pain to get to, a pain to get in and out if
you need to. I put mine under the pilot's seat... very easy install,
painless to get to and work on. If you'd like I can send you pictures
off-line of the install.
Regards,
David Schaefer
RV-6A N142DS "Geek One"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Lawson
Subject: RV-List: Question re: Tru Trak
--> RV-List message posted by: John Lawson <rv6builder48138@yahoo.com>
I've tried to contact Tru Trak three times thru their
web site, with no response. Has anyone else had the
same problem?
My question to them: I'm partway thru building the
left wing of my RV-6. If I choose to install a Tru
Trak product, is there anything I need to/can install
in the wing, while I'm working on it?
John
__________________________________
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| Subject: | RV-6 or 6A wanted |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Weiler" <dcw@mnwing.org>
Fellow Listers:
I have a friend who is looking to purchase a completed RV-6 or 6A. Please
contact me off list if you know of one and I'll put you in touch with this
gentlemen.
Thanks
Doug Weiler
pres, MN Wing
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| Subject: | Looking for governor adapter cover for O-360 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Roberto Giusti <roby@mail.com>
Listers,
I am converting a Lycoming O-360 from CS to FP.
I need a governor adapter cover from a relatively new engine.
The cover should have a slot in it the shape of a small paper
clip around 3/32 deep.
If anyone has a Lycoming O-360 with a CS prop and has the gov. adapter cover lying
around,
please contact me off list.
Thanks,
Roberto Giusti
roby@mail.com
*
*
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| Subject: | Re: Wing / Horiz. stab incidence |
--> RV-List message posted by: "elsa-henry" <elsa-henry@darlor-watch.com>
With wings and fuselage level abeam and fore & aft, using the main longerons as
a ref level and using a spirit level resting on the wing's main spar and resting
on the rear spar using the 3.03" spacer as shown in SK 59 (in my 1995 vintage
manual), I was able to obtain satisfactory edge clearances on the rear spar
stubs for the 5/16 Dia Bolts. The trick was drilling the holes for them in the
rear spar stubs. I used a 1 /4" "bullet" drill with a 16" extension to drill
the first hole and then enlarged them to 5/16" dia, with that drill on a similar
extension. This gives enough clearance for the drill-motor to clear the side
of the fuselage for a perpendicular approach to the spar stubs. The spar stubs
were clamped together using a vice-grip welder's clamp to hold them in place
to provide unobstructed clearance for the drills
The horizontal Stab was set to plans.
For all my construction, I never bought long aviation drills.-I just made my extensions
by boring holes on my lathe for the applicable drill in the end of suitable
brass or steel rod. Then inserted the required drill into the rod with
a couple of drops of "Krazy Glue" (Super Glue). Never had one come loose! Also
the good thing is when that drill becomes dull, just heat the end with a propane
torch and out it comes and you can slide in a new one with another dose of
glue. Works great!
Cheers!!--Henry Hore--RV6-A,- C-GELS
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
>
> Group:
>
> I have my wings plugged into my 6A and am ready to drill the rear spar
> attach holes, thus setting the incidence.
>
> I am limited to the amount of positive incidence I can get to .5 degrees
> without running into some serious edge distance problems for the 5/16th
> inch bolts.
>
> The question is......If I set my wing incidence at positive .5 degrees,
> what should I do with the Horizontal stabilizer incidence to compensate?
> Should I set it to have .5 degrees negative incidence? So If say you
> could only get .4 degrees of positive wing incidence, should you set the
> horizontal stab to .6 degrees negative incidence? Can I assume that you
> want the difference between the two to always be 1 degree?
>
> Thanks in advance. Sure is cool to see an airplane in the hangar with
> wings on it for a change!
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeff Orear
> RV6A N782P (reserved)
> setting wing incidence
> Peshtigo, WI
>
>
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| Subject: | RV-6a wing incidence angle |
--> RV-List message posted by: <tomvelvick@cox.net>
Hi Jeff,
The rv-6a wings are set to a 1/2 degree incidence angle (the front of the wing
points up slightly) and the horizontal stab is set to a level condition. This
is with the airplane longerons set in a level position and the wings level.
So there is a total of 1/2 degree between them, not 1 degree. Check your builders
manual. Vans has a section that tells you have to do it.
Regards,
Tom Velvick
N53KT rv-4
N70953L rv-4
rv-6a wiring and engine work
>
> I have my wings plugged into my 6A and am ready to drill the rear spar
> attach holes, thus setting the incidence.
>
> I am limited to the amount of positive incidence I can get to .5 degrees
> without running into some serious edge distance problems for the 5/16th
> inch bolts.
>
> The question is......If I set my wing incidence at positive .5 degrees,
> what should I do with the Horizontal stabilizer incidence to compensate?
> Should I set it to have .5 degrees negative incidence? So If say you
> could only get .4 degrees of positive wing incidence, should you set the
> horizontal stab to .6 degrees negative incidence? Can I assume that you
> want the difference between the two to always be 1 degree?
>
> Thanks in advance. Sure is cool to see an airplane in the hangar with
> wings on it for a change!
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeff Orear
> RV6A N782P (reserved)
> setting wing incidence
> Peshtigo, WI
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| Subject: | RV-6a wing incidence angle |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> Hi Jeff,
>
> The rv-6a wings are set to a 1/2 degree incidence angle (the front of the
> wing points up slightly) and the horizontal stab is set to a level
> condition. This is with the airplane longerons set in a level position
> and the wings level. So there is a total of 1/2 degree between them, not
> 1 degree. Check your builders manual. Vans has a section that tells you
> have to do it.
> Regards,
> Tom Velvick
> N53KT rv-4
> N70953L rv-4
> rv-6a wiring and engine work
I seem to recall that the -4's and the -6's were different in this regard.
Tom, you've built both, was the -4 set at 1 degree?
Alex Peterson
RV6-A 620 hours
Maple Grove, MN
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| Subject: | Re: RV-6a wing incidence angle |
--> RV-List message posted by: John <n1cxo320@salidaco.com>
Interesting...my RV6A manual calls for a 1.0-degree angle, not
1/2-degree...I set it for 1-degree and it works fine...I wonder is the
1/2-degree is an error or did something change during RV6A production?
tomvelvick@cox.net wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: <tomvelvick@cox.net>
>
>Hi Jeff,
>
>The rv-6a wings are set to a 1/2 degree incidence angle (the front of the wing
points up slightly) and the horizontal stab is set to a level condition. This
is with the airplane longerons set in a level position and the wings level.
So there is a total of 1/2 degree between them, not 1 degree. Check your builders
manual. Vans has a section that tells you have to do it.
>Regards,
>Tom Velvick
>N53KT rv-4
>N70953L rv-4
>rv-6a wiring and engine work
>
>
>
>
>>I have my wings plugged into my 6A and am ready to drill the rear spar
>>attach holes, thus setting the incidence.
>>
>>I am limited to the amount of positive incidence I can get to .5 degrees
>>without running into some serious edge distance problems for the 5/16th
>>inch bolts.
>>
>>The question is......If I set my wing incidence at positive .5 degrees,
>>what should I do with the Horizontal stabilizer incidence to compensate?
>>Should I set it to have .5 degrees negative incidence? So If say you
>>could only get .4 degrees of positive wing incidence, should you set the
>>horizontal stab to .6 degrees negative incidence? Can I assume that you
>>want the difference between the two to always be 1 degree?
>>
>>Thanks in advance. Sure is cool to see an airplane in the hangar with
>>wings on it for a change!
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Jeff Orear
>>RV6A N782P (reserved)
>>setting wing incidence
>>Peshtigo, WI
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-6a wing incidence angle |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
Hi Tom:
I believe the -4 wings are set to 1/2 degrees positive. The -6/6A is set to
1 degree positive.
Those of you out there that have some wing twist in your wings...How much
has made a significant difference in your experience? I now find
(yeah...AFTER I drilled the danged 5/16th inch bolt DOH!!!!!) that I have
a left wing that has .2 degrees of positive wing twist (leading edge higher
than trailing edge) than my right wing. This begins just outboard of the
fuel tank. So as a result, I will have a wing that will tend to roll to the
right...at least in theory.
Who knows...perhaps this will prevent the common heavy left wing. (?) I am
wondering if this amount of discrepancy would be negated by squeezing an
aileron if indeed I get a roll to the right. My plan is to complete
construction and fly the thing. Then evaluate any roll tendency I may have
and then see what I need to do about it.
BTW....I do plan to dial in .6 degrees of negative incidence to compensate
for getting only .4 degrees of positive incidence in my wing.
Thanks guys.
Regards,
Jeff Orear
RV6A N782P (reserved)
setting Horizontal stab incidence
Peshtigo, WI
----- Original Message -----
From: <tomvelvick@cox.net>
Subject: RV-List: RV-6a wing incidence angle
> --> RV-List message posted by: <tomvelvick@cox.net>
>
> Hi Jeff,
>
> The rv-6a wings are set to a 1/2 degree incidence angle (the front of the
> wing points up slightly) and the horizontal stab is set to a level
> condition. This is with the airplane longerons set in a level position
> and the wings level. So there is a total of 1/2 degree between them, not
> 1 degree. Check your builders manual. Vans has a section that tells you
> have to do it.
> Regards,
> Tom Velvick
> N53KT rv-4
> N70953L rv-4
> rv-6a wiring and engine work
>
>
>>
>> I have my wings plugged into my 6A and am ready to drill the rear spar
>> attach holes, thus setting the incidence.
>>
>> I am limited to the amount of positive incidence I can get to .5 degrees
>> without running into some serious edge distance problems for the 5/16th
>> inch bolts.
>>
>> The question is......If I set my wing incidence at positive .5 degrees,
>> what should I do with the Horizontal stabilizer incidence to compensate?
>> Should I set it to have .5 degrees negative incidence? So If say you
>> could only get .4 degrees of positive wing incidence, should you set the
>> horizontal stab to .6 degrees negative incidence? Can I assume that you
>> want the difference between the two to always be 1 degree?
>>
>> Thanks in advance. Sure is cool to see an airplane in the hangar with
>> wings on it for a change!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jeff Orear
>> RV6A N782P (reserved)
>> setting wing incidence
>> Peshtigo, WI
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-6 or 6A wanted |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>
>There are 20 listed in Trade A Plane.
Ron Lee
>I have a friend who is looking to purchase a completed RV-6 or 6A. Please
>contact me off list if you know of one and I'll put you in touch with this
>gentlemen.
>
>Thanks
>
>Doug Weiler
>pres, MN Wing
>
>
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| Subject: | RV - Intervention |
"Rocket List" <rocket-list@matronics.com>,
"RV List" <rv-list@matronics.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
Everybody,
You know when someone starts to get into a cult or heavy into drugs; an "Intervention"
is called for. I am calling on all you to help me with such an effort.
KABONG as he calls himself, Jack Starn to some of us, needs your help.
Background Info:
Several years ago, I got a tail kit for a RV-4. After getting the jigs built,
I had a very slow start on drilling that first hole in aluminum. My wife claims
that my only tool is a hammer. Anyway, a family was looking into moving into
the house next door and needed to use the phone so I let them in my house through
the garage. Jack spotted the tail kit. His wife looked at me and said
they were going to take the house. I haven't been able to get rid of Jack since.
After much thought, the tail kit was modified and a Harmon Rocket was started.
With Jack helps, the Rocket went from aluminum ore, refined into Al sheets,
formed into aircraft parts and assembled into a flying machine. After five
years, Jack's cancer (he lost his vocal cords but beat the cancer - no he
didn't smoke), and several periods of unemployment (sure slows down the money
needed to build) the Rocket was finished. After several years of flying the Rocket,
I thought I had converted Jack into a go fast; more power is better type
of guy.
Current Situation:
Anyway, he is looking at building an RV-10 or an RV-12. While, I wouldn't personally
want to build an RV-10, it is at least a real aircraft with reasonable
performance. The RV-12 is another matter. It is an aerocoupe (spelling), or
as someone on the SoCal RV List says, an "RV-0.5".
My request, please support me in this Intervention and get Jack or KABONG back
into the building mode of real RVs with RV like performance.
BTW - question to those alternate engine guys out there, is there a small auto
conversion with turbo charging. If you had to build a RV-12 with a 120 knot
limit, why not take those knots to 16,500 or 17,500 and get some real KTAS out
of them.
Thanks,
Tom Gummo
Apple Valley, CA
Harmon Rocket-II, 250 hours
do not archive
http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html
PS - small attempt at humor :-)
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--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
The manual states to fab this part... I can't seem to locate the .063 sheet. Anyone
have the dimensions of the sheet to cut this part from? All I can locate
is an 11" sheet... way to big.
Thanks in advance,
Darrell
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for governor adapter cover for O-360 |
--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
In a message dated 5/29/05 3:05:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, roby@mail.com
writes:
> I need a governor adapter cover from a relatively new engine.
Van's sells them.
Harry Crosby
RV-6 N16CX, 82 hours
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