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1. 01:05 AM - Re: RV - Intervention (David Leonard)
2. 05:29 AM - Touch up paint (Matt Jurotich)
3. 06:33 AM - Not totally RV related (Charles Heathco)
4. 06:37 AM - Re: RV - Intervention (Charlie England)
5. 06:51 AM - Re: Touch up paint (Ron Lee)
6. 06:51 AM - Re: Touch up paint (David Burton)
7. 06:52 AM - Re: Question Re: Tru Trak (Bobby Hester)
8. 07:31 AM - Re: F-601Z (Tom & Cathy Ervin)
9. 08:05 AM - Re: Touch up paint (David Leonard)
10. 09:20 AM - Re: Question Re: Tru Trak (J D Newsum)
11. 09:21 AM - # clecos for quickbuild? (Paul Folbrecht)
12. 10:27 AM - Re: Touch up paint (Ron Lee)
13. 11:12 AM - VOR Antenna limitations (Knicholas2@aol.com)
14. 12:22 PM - Re: VOR Antenna limitations (DonVS)
15. 12:26 PM - Re: VOR Antenna limitations (Charlie England)
16. 02:07 PM - Re: F-601Z (Darrell Reiley)
17. 02:31 PM - Re: VOR Antenna limitations (Tim Bryan)
18. 03:55 PM - Re: # clecos for quickbuild? (Robinette, Jim)
19. 05:56 PM - Re: VOR Antenna limitations (David Leonard)
20. 06:51 PM - Re: Looking for governor adapter cover for O-360 (Vanremog@AOL.COM)
21. 06:51 PM - Re: leaking lycoming intake tube (Vanremog@AOL.COM)
22. 07:40 PM - Re:VOR Antenna limitations (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
23. 07:50 PM - Re: VOR Antenna limitations (Tim Olson)
24. 08:24 PM - What's a "VOR" ??? (Chuck)
25. 08:24 PM - Re: VOR Antenna limitations (Dave Bristol)
26. 08:24 PM - Re: VOR Antenna limitations (Tim Bryan)
27. 08:41 PM - Re: What's a "VOR" ??? (Paul Besing)
28. 09:07 PM - Re: VOR Antenna limitations (Tim Olson)
29. 09:28 PM - Re: Dynon D-10A Ticking (Jerry Isler)
30. 09:49 PM - Re: What's a "VOR" ??? (Ed Holyoke)
31. 09:57 PM - Re: What's a "VOR" ??? (Tedd McHenry)
32. 10:06 PM - Re: VOR Antenna limitations (RV6 Flyer)
33. 10:17 PM - Re: What's a "VOR" ??? (Paul Besing)
34. 10:28 PM - Re: What's a "VOR" ??? (Mickey Coggins)
35. 10:34 PM - Rudder Riveting Question (MLWynn@aol.com)
36. 11:51 PM - Re: Rudder Riveting Question (Scott Farner)
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| Subject: | Re: RV - Intervention |
--> RV-List message posted by: David Leonard <wdleonard@gmail.com>
> BTW - question to those alternate engine guys out there, is there a small
> auto conversion with turbo charging. If you had to build a RV-12 with a 120
> knot limit, why not take those knots to 16,500 or 17,500 and get some real
> KTAS out of them.
The best bet for something like that would probably be the Rotax 914. You
can build a turbo single rotor rotary but it would cost more than a 914 and
not offer any advantages except lower rebuild cost.
Dave Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6
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--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Jurotich <mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov>
The paint on my already built RV 6A ( I bought a flying airplane) needs
some touch up. I want to buy rattle cans and I am having trouble finding a
good match at the auto parts store. I do have a really good sample from
cutting the holes for the NACA ducts during the panel upgrade. Suggestions
please.
Thanks
Matthew M. Jurotich
e-mail mailto: mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov
phone : 301-286-5919
fax : 301-286-7021
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| Subject: | Not totally RV related |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Heathco" <cheathco@comcast.net>
I had the good fortunme to get my home under contract very quickly, closing next
monday. I have found new digs in Boerne Tx, took Tweetybird over last week.
Due to outcome, I have mucho stuff to sell, Furn, Tools, all kinds of stuff. I
intended to take my almost new battery powered tug, (I had to have it to move
the plane I hangered with here), but wont need it in new digs. Its a Tow Buddy.
If interested in it or need anything else, I probably have it for sale. Pls
contact via my e-mail. Do not archive.
Charlie Heathco RV6a
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| Subject: | Re: RV - Intervention |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Tom Gummo wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net>
>
>Everybody,
>
>
>You know when someone starts to get into a cult or heavy into drugs; an "Intervention"
is called for. I am calling on all you to help me with such an effort.
>
>
>KABONG as he calls himself, Jack Starn to some of us, needs your help.
>
>
>Background Info:
>
>
>Several years ago, I got a tail kit for a RV-4. After getting the jigs built,
I had a very slow start on drilling that first hole in aluminum. My wife claims
that my only tool is a hammer. Anyway, a family was looking into moving into
the house next door and needed to use the phone so I let them in my house
through the garage. Jack spotted the tail kit. His wife looked at me and said
they were going to take the house. I haven't been able to get rid of Jack since.
After much thought, the tail kit was modified and a Harmon Rocket was started.
With Jack helps, the Rocket went from aluminum ore, refined into Al sheets,
formed into aircraft parts and assembled into a flying machine. After
five years, Jack's cancer (he lost his vocal cords but beat the cancer - no he
didn't smoke), and several periods of unemployment (sure slows down the money
needed to build) the Rocket was finished. After several years of flying the
Rocket, I thought I had converted Jack into a go fast!
> ; more power is better type of guy.
>
>
>Current Situation:
>
>
>Anyway, he is looking at building an RV-10 or an RV-12. While, I wouldn't personally
want to build an RV-10, it is at least a real aircraft with reasonable
performance. The RV-12 is another matter. It is an aerocoupe (spelling), or
as someone on the SoCal RV List says, an "RV-0.5".
>
>
>My request, please support me in this Intervention and get Jack or KABONG back
into the building mode of real RVs with RV like performance.
>
>
>BTW - question to those alternate engine guys out there, is there a small auto
conversion with turbo charging. If you had to build a RV-12 with a 120 knot
limit, why not take those knots to 16,500 or 17,500 and get some real KTAS out
of them.
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>Tom Gummo
>Apple Valley, CA
>Harmon Rocket-II, 250 hours
>
Dave mentioned the Rotax 914.
For truly a low cost auto conversion, he might look at the smaller
Subaru engines. There's a guy from the Denver area that presented a SNF
engine forum about 8 or 10 years ago on running a Sub direct drive with
a turbo. He was flying an Avid Flyer out of mountain strips. Obviously,
Jack will spend more time with engine development & cooling issues than
building the airframe.
Charlie
(just hosted a weekend of rotary engine forums & love the idea of
alternative engines, as long as you approach them with eyes wide open &
with the needed skills)
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| Subject: | Re: Touch up paint |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
Call around to various paint stores to see if they can match the color from
your sample AND put the paint in a spray can. Another option might be to
use color matched paint and use one of those disposable air guns that
operate using some small container of propellant.
Ron Lee
>The paint on my already built RV 6A ( I bought a flying airplane) needs
>some touch up. I want to buy rattle cans and I am having trouble finding a
>good match at the auto parts store. I do have a really good sample from
>cutting the holes for the NACA ducts during the panel upgrade. Suggestions
>please.
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| Subject: | Re: Touch up paint |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Burton" <dburton@nwlink.com>
Hi Matt,
Any of the auto paint stores should have a spectrophotometer they can use to
give you a close match, and experienced folks who will help you with this.
Is there any chance of contacting the builder to find out what type of paint
they used and the paint codes?
Good luck,
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Jurotich" <mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov>
Subject: RV-List: Touch up paint
> --> RV-List message posted by: Matt Jurotich <mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov>
>
> The paint on my already built RV 6A ( I bought a flying airplane) needs
> some touch up. I want to buy rattle cans and I am having trouble finding
a
> good match at the auto parts store. I do have a really good sample from
> cutting the holes for the NACA ducts during the panel upgrade.
Suggestions
> please.
>
> Thanks
>
> Matthew M. Jurotich
>
> e-mail mailto: mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov
> phone : 301-286-5919
> fax : 301-286-7021
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Question re: Tru Trak |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bobby Hester <bhester@hopkinsville.net>
David Schaefer wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "David Schaefer" <dschaefer1@kc.rr.com>
>
>Just call them! They are more than happy to speak with builders. However,
>why put it in the wing? It's a pain to get to, a pain to get in and out if
>you need to. I put mine under the pilot's seat... very easy install,
>painless to get to and work on. If you'd like I can send you pictures
>off-line of the install.
>
>Regards,
>
>David Schaefer
>RV-6A N142DS "Geek One"
>
>
>
Easy to install in the wing on a 7 maybe not on the 6. They actually
talked me out of buying one while building and told me to wait until I
was flying because it is suppose to be so easy to install. From others
web sites I see that that is ture. I di run the wires so they would be
there when I am ready to add it.
--
Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY
Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/
RV7A Slowbuild wings-QB Fuse :-)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net>
Darrel, What RV are you building? I have a good supply of .063 and many
small pieces from my RV6-A project. I could mail you a piece if you can't
locate the one in your kit.
Van's sometimes sent small sheets of aluminum that you cut and
fabricated many small parts out of and that may be the piece you located.
Tom
in Ohio
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darrell Reiley" <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV-List: F-601Z
> --> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
>
> The manual states to fab this part... I can't seem to locate the .063
> sheet. Anyone have the dimensions of the sheet to cut this part from? All
> I can locate is an 11" sheet... way to big.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Darrell
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Touch up paint |
--> RV-List message posted by: David Leonard <wdleonard@gmail.com>
If you haven't already done so, try looking in the aircraft log or builder's
log to see if he wrote the brand of paint. Some brands have standard colors
that will be easy to match.
Also, your results will be much better if you can match type of paint
(urathane, epoxy, water base, enamel).
Dave Leonard
On 5/30/05, Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net> wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>
> Call around to various paint stores to see if they can match the color
> from
> your sample AND put the paint in a spray can. Another option might be to
> use color matched paint and use one of those disposable air guns that
> operate using some small container of propellant.
>
> Ron Lee
>
>
> >The paint on my already built RV 6A ( I bought a flying airplane) needs
> >some touch up. I want to buy rattle cans and I am having trouble finding
> a
> >good match at the auto parts store. I do have a really good sample from
> >cutting the holes for the NACA ducts during the panel upgrade.
> Suggestions
> >please.
>
>
--
Wm. David Leonard
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| Subject: | Question re: Tru Trak |
--> RV-List message posted by: "J D Newsum" <jnewsum1@msn.com>
On my RV6, I wanted to put the TruTrak aileron servo in the wing also. When
I received my TruTrak autopilot, it came with a bracket, push rod, rod end
bearings etc. and instructions for mounting the aileron servo under the seat
floor and it connecting to the control stick mixer. The TruTrak web site
showed a bracket for mounting the aileron servo inside the RV6 wing in the
area where the aileron bell crank inspection panel is located. I contacted
TruTrak about the possibility of getting the bracket for mounting the servo
in the wing but was told that the under the floor location was the preferred
location and the bracket for mounting inside the wing was no longer
available. Undeterred, I fabricated a bracket using the picture on the
TruTrak web site as an example for mounting the servo inside the wing but
after much trial fitting etc., it became obvious that installation and
removal once the wing skins were on would be a bear if not impossible in
this location.
Sam Buchanan's "The RV Journal" web site has some good recommendations for
mounting the aileron servo in the wing tip.
http://home.hiwaay.net/~sbuc/journal/navaid.html
Dan Checkoway's website has some pictures that show how Laird Owens mounted
a TruTrak servo on the wing tip of his RV6.
http://www.rvproject.com/trutrak.html
I copied Laird's method and installed the aileron servo in the right wing
tip. In my opinion this is a good location which gives good access to the
servo for removal and replacement if that should ever be necessary. It also
eliminates any possibility of the roll servo introducing pitch inputs into
the control column (probably a minor consideration). For me the only
downside of the wing tip location is that for a TruTrak servo you have to
run seven wires through the wing to the aileron servo. I ran a couple of
spares wires through the wing. Finding the right spot to connect the push
tube to the aileron bell crank took some experimentation in order to keep
the servo arm from going over center and jamming the primary controls
throughout the full range of deflection of the aileron. Your mileage may
vary.
JD
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John Lawson
Subject: RV-List: Question re: Tru Trak
--> RV-List message posted by: John Lawson <rv6builder48138@yahoo.com>
I've tried to contact Tru Trak three times thru their
web site, with no response. Has anyone else had the
same problem?
My question to them: I'm partway thru building the
left wing of my RV-6. If I choose to install a Tru
Trak product, is there anything I need to/can install
in the wing, while I'm working on it?
John
__________________________________
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| Subject: | # clecos for quickbuild? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Folbrecht <paulfolbrecht@yahoo.com>
Tony Partain is delivering my 9A QB week after next and I'm getting
ready to make the big tool order. Going with the Avery kit + extras.
I was thinking that maybe the # of clecos in the kit is excessive for a
QB. Biggest thing I have to rivet is one wing skin or the horiz stab.
Anyone know approximately how many clecos is sufficient for a QB?
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| Subject: | Re: Touch up paint |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
The unit I mentioned earlier is Preval from NAPA. Might be available
elsewhere.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | VOR Antenna limitations |
--> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
When I built my RV9A I built it for IFR certification. (I don't necessarily
think long "hard" IFR in a single engine is a good idea, but it is nice to
get through those Seattle marine layers). That has been argued elsewhere....
Anyway... I installed the Archer nav antennas in the wing tips. THey work
well UNLESS the VOR is on the wrong side of the plane and the fuselage blocks
the signal. This makes for an unsafe (and illegal) approach if you lose your
signal. I am trying to avoid the ugly "towel bar" VOR antennas. What are
others doing to compensate for this?
Kim Nicholas
RV9A
Seattle
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| Subject: | VOR Antenna limitations |
--> RV-List message posted by: "DonVS" <dsvs@comcast.net>
Cats whiskers work well, unless you include them in the ugly category.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Knicholas2@aol.com
Subject: RV-List: VOR Antenna limitations
--> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
When I built my RV9A I built it for IFR certification. (I don't necessarily
think long "hard" IFR in a single engine is a good idea, but it is nice to
get through those Seattle marine layers). That has been argued
elsewhere....
Anyway... I installed the Archer nav antennas in the wing tips. THey work
well UNLESS the VOR is on the wrong side of the plane and the fuselage
blocks
the signal. This makes for an unsafe (and illegal) approach if you lose
your
signal. I am trying to avoid the ugly "towel bar" VOR antennas. What are
others doing to compensate for this?
Kim Nicholas
RV9A
Seattle
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| Subject: | Re: VOR Antenna limitations |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Knicholas2@aol.com wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
>
>When I built my RV9A I built it for IFR certification. (I don't necessarily
>think long "hard" IFR in a single engine is a good idea, but it is nice to
>get through those Seattle marine layers). That has been argued elsewhere....
>
>Anyway... I installed the Archer nav antennas in the wing tips. THey work
>well UNLESS the VOR is on the wrong side of the plane and the fuselage blocks
>the signal. This makes for an unsafe (and illegal) approach if you lose your
>signal. I am trying to avoid the ugly "towel bar" VOR antennas. What are
>others doing to compensate for this?
>
>Kim Nicholas
>RV9A
>Seattle
>
I've got a drawing somewhere of a half-wave dipole made of copper foil
glued around the lower back of the canopy. The drawing was for a Mustang
II, very similar in size/shape to the RV sidebyside models. I've never
seen it done, but I'll bet you could make it work if you did the same
trick in the cowl. (I'm assuming you intend to use it for approaches
where the signal would be fairly strong.)
Charlie
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--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
Building a 7A, THANKS so much for your kind offer... I cut the 11" piece already.
Probably a mistake but in this arena you make many...
Darrell
Tom & Cathy Ervin <tcervin@valkyrie.net> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin"
Darrel, What RV are you building? I have a good supply of .063 and many
small pieces from my RV6-A project. I could mail you a piece if you can't
locate the one in your kit.
Van's sometimes sent small sheets of aluminum that you cut and
fabricated many small parts out of and that may be the piece you located.
Tom
in Ohio
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darrell Reiley"
Subject: RV-List: F-601Z
> --> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley
>
> The manual states to fab this part... I can't seem to locate the .063
> sheet. Anyone have the dimensions of the sheet to cut this part from? All
> I can locate is an 11" sheet... way to big.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Darrell
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: VOR Antenna limitations |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
You mentioned you installed the nav antennas in the wing tips (plural). If
this is true, why would you have this issue? If not, could you install in
both wing tips and tie the nav antennas together?
Tim
-------Original Message-------
From: Knicholas2@aol.com
Subject: RV-List: VOR Antenna limitations
--> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
When I built my RV9A I built it for IFR certification. (I don't necessarily
think long "hard" IFR in a single engine is a good idea, but it is nice to
get through those Seattle marine layers). That has been argued elsewhere..
Anyway... I installed the Archer nav antennas in the wing tips. THey work
well UNLESS the VOR is on the wrong side of the plane and the fuselage
blocks
the signal. This makes for an unsafe (and illegal) approach if you lose
your
signal. I am trying to avoid the ugly "towel bar" VOR antennas. What are
others doing to compensate for this?
Kim Nicholas
RV9A
Seattle
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| Subject: | # clecos for quickbuild? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Robinette, Jim" <jim@rvator.net>
Paul,
Doing a QB 7A. Just finishing the emp and have the wings and fuse in
the garage. Ordered the Avery kit and took their advice and bought what
they told me I would need for a QB 7. I think the driving factor in
clecos might be the number you need for the emp, vice wings and fuse. I
found one time when I used all my silver clecos on the emp, so I don't
think they are selling you excessive clecos. That being said, I can't
speak for the QB fuse, only the emp.
Take care,
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Folbrecht
Subject: RV-List: # clecos for quickbuild?
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Folbrecht <paulfolbrecht@yahoo.com>
Tony Partain is delivering my 9A QB week after next and I'm getting
ready to make the big tool order. Going with the Avery kit + extras.
I was thinking that maybe the # of clecos in the kit is excessive for a
QB. Biggest thing I have to rivet is one wing skin or the horiz stab.
Anyone know approximately how many clecos is sufficient for a QB?
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| Subject: | Re: VOR Antenna limitations |
--> RV-List message posted by: David Leonard <wdleonard@gmail.com>
I installed a copper tape dipole on the inside leading edge of the lower
cowl. It is out of sight, was easy and cheap to install, and works very well
if you are headed toward or abeam the VOR.
Dave Leonard
On 5/30/05, Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
>
> Knicholas2@aol.com wrote:
>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
> >
> >When I built my RV9A I built it for IFR certification. (I don't
> necessarily
> >think long "hard" IFR in a single engine is a good idea, but it is nice
> to
> >get through those Seattle marine layers). That has been argued
> elsewhere....
> >
> >Anyway... I installed the Archer nav antennas in the wing tips. THey work
> >well UNLESS the VOR is on the wrong side of the plane and the fuselage
> blocks
> >the signal. This makes for an unsafe (and illegal) approach if you lose
> your
> >signal. I am trying to avoid the ugly "towel bar" VOR antennas. What are
> >others doing to compensate for this?
> >
> >Kim Nicholas
> >RV9A
> >Seattle
> >
>
> I've got a drawing somewhere of a half-wave dipole made of copper foil
> glued around the lower back of the canopy. The drawing was for a Mustang
> II, very similar in size/shape to the RV sidebyside models. I've never
> seen it done, but I'll bet you could make it work if you did the same
> trick in the cowl. (I'm assuming you intend to use it for approaches
> where the signal would be fairly strong.)
>
> Charlie
>
>
--
Wm. David Leonard
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for governor adapter cover for O-360 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 5/29/2005 3:05:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
roby@mail.com writes:
I am converting a Lycoming O-360 from CS to FP.
===========================================
Uhhhhhh....Why?
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 752hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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| Subject: | Re: leaking lycoming intake tube |
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 5/28/2005 6:51:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
rgarrett@objectsciences.com writes:
Checked with my local A&P, and he said the
gasket where the tube goes into the cylinder is probably leaking. That
certainly appears to be the case.
A few questions:
Where's a good source for the gasket (an actual part number would be good
too)
==========================================
IMO, the Lycoming gaskets are way too thin to properly seal. You can either
double them up or make your own out of thicker material from the auto parts
store.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 752hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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| Subject: | Re:VOR Antenna limitations |
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
I put a VOR dipole antenna inside the canopy of our RV-4 using 1/4" copper
tape,placed about 1 1/2" above the metal canopy skirt. I soldered the
center conductor to one leg & the shield to the other. I placed this on a patch
of duct tape & potted it in epoxy. Worked fine for the 7 years I flew it.
Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
Charleston,Arkansas
Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
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| Subject: | Re: VOR Antenna limitations |
--> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Tim,
I have seen it written that the practice of tying together the NAV
antennas to get them to provide coverage from both sides of the
plane is something to specifically avoid. It produces unwanted
side effects. I'm currently leaning towards the archer antennas
too, and always worried that Kim's problem would be the downfall.
I hadn't heard anything but good things until now...... I guess
now I have reason to be leery and perhaps look again at the cat
whiskers.
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
Tim Bryan wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
>
> You mentioned you installed the nav antennas in the wing tips (plural). If
> this is true, why would you have this issue? If not, could you install in
> both wing tips and tie the nav antennas together?
>
> Tim
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Knicholas2@aol.com
> Date: 05/30/05 11:17:39
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: VOR Antenna limitations
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
>
> When I built my RV9A I built it for IFR certification. (I don't necessarily
> think long "hard" IFR in a single engine is a good idea, but it is nice to
> get through those Seattle marine layers). That has been argued elsewhere..
>
>
> Anyway... I installed the Archer nav antennas in the wing tips. THey work
> well UNLESS the VOR is on the wrong side of the plane and the fuselage
> blocks
> the signal. This makes for an unsafe (and illegal) approach if you lose
> your
> signal. I am trying to avoid the ugly "towel bar" VOR antennas. What are
> others doing to compensate for this?
>
> Kim Nicholas
> RV9A
> Seattle
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | What's a "VOR" ??? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Chuck <chuck515tigger@yahoo.com>
Hey I ain't seen any good flamin' for awhile, so I'll see what I can stir up....
VOR's are extinct! Yep they went the way of covered wagons, revolvers, and startin'
fires with flint. EVERYONE is using GPS, pilotage and dead-reckoning.
Heck a'doodle lining up 'dem cross hairs is for Sissies, student pilots, and
folks who can't afford 100 bucks for a hand-held GPS that'll get you darn near
anywheres, anytime, anyhow ('cept watch out for those F-18's when ya' blow through
one of 'dem darn alphabet-soup areas).
There, that ought to do it. Nomex britches on...
Chuck
Oldsfolks@aol.com wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
I put a VOR dipole antenna inside the canopy of our RV-4 using 1/4" copper
tape,placed about 1 1/2" above the metal canopy skirt. I soldered the
center conductor to one leg & the shield to the other. I placed this on a patch
of duct tape & potted it in epoxy. Worked fine for the 7 years I flew it.
Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
Charleston,Arkansas
Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
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| Subject: | Re: VOR Antenna limitations |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol <dbris200@sbcglobal.net>
Have you flown it and noticed this problem, or are you just assuming
this to be the case? I'm asking because I have this antenna in my left
wing and have never noticed a problem, and IIRC Bob Archer said that the
airplane was actually part of the antenna and that this would NOT be a
problem. I've also never heard a complaint from anyone who's flown one
Dave Bristol RV6, SO Cal
EAA Technical Counselor
Knicholas2@aol.com wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
>
>When I built my RV9A I built it for IFR certification. (I don't necessarily
>think long "hard" IFR in a single engine is a good idea, but it is nice to
>get through those Seattle marine layers). That has been argued elsewhere....
>
>Anyway... I installed the Archer nav antennas in the wing tips. THey work
>well UNLESS the VOR is on the wrong side of the plane and the fuselage blocks
>the signal. This makes for an unsafe (and illegal) approach if you lose your
>signal. I am trying to avoid the ugly "towel bar" VOR antennas. What are
>others doing to compensate for this?
>
>Kim Nicholas
>RV9A
>Seattle
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: VOR Antenna limitations |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
I had heard that too, but thought it was tying two Comms together. Nav is
pretty pasive isn't it? Don't really know myself. I installed the whiskers
in the top of the vertical and am happy with that. If I don't poke my eye
out that is. Seriously, good reception is more important to me than the
knot or two I *might* loose.
Tim
DNA
-------Original Message-------
From: Tim Olson
Subject: Re: RV-List: VOR Antenna limitations
--> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Tim,
I have seen it written that the practice of tying together the NAV
antennas to get them to provide coverage from both sides of the
plane is something to specifically avoid. It produces unwanted
side effects. I'm currently leaning towards the archer antennas
too, and always worried that Kim's problem would be the downfall.
I hadn't heard anything but good things until now...... I guess
now I have reason to be leery and perhaps look again at the cat
whiskers.
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
Tim Bryan wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
>
> You mentioned you installed the nav antennas in the wing tips (plural).
If
> this is true, why would you have this issue? If not, could you install in
> both wing tips and tie the nav antennas together?
>
> Tim
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Knicholas2@aol.com
> Date: 05/30/05 11:17:39
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: VOR Antenna limitations
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
>
> When I built my RV9A I built it for IFR certification. (I don't
necessarily
> think long "hard" IFR in a single engine is a good idea, but it is nice
to
> get through those Seattle marine layers). That has been argued elsewhere.
>
>
> Anyway... I installed the Archer nav antennas in the wing tips. THey work
> well UNLESS the VOR is on the wrong side of the plane and the fuselage
> blocks
> the signal. This makes for an unsafe (and illegal) approach if you lose
> your
> signal. I am trying to avoid the ugly "towel bar" VOR antennas. What
are
> others doing to compensate for this?
>
> Kim Nicholas
> RV9A
> Seattle
>
>
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| Subject: | What's a "VOR" ??? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <paul@kitlog.com>
What happens when terrorists use GPS jamming devices? Talk about all hell
breaking loose... That wouldn't be that difficult to do.
Paul Besing
RV-6A Sold
Kitlog Builder's Software
www.kitlog.com
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chuck
Subject: RV-List: What's a "VOR" ???
--> RV-List message posted by: Chuck <chuck515tigger@yahoo.com>
Hey I ain't seen any good flamin' for awhile, so I'll see what I can stir
up....
VOR's are extinct! Yep they went the way of covered wagons, revolvers, and
startin' fires with flint. EVERYONE is using GPS, pilotage and
dead-reckoning. Heck a'doodle lining up 'dem cross hairs is for Sissies,
student pilots, and folks who can't afford 100 bucks for a hand-held GPS
that'll get you darn near anywheres, anytime, anyhow ('cept watch out for
those F-18's when ya' blow through one of 'dem darn alphabet-soup areas).
There, that ought to do it. Nomex britches on...
Chuck
Oldsfolks@aol.com wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
I put a VOR dipole antenna inside the canopy of our RV-4 using 1/4" copper
tape,placed about 1 1/2" above the metal canopy skirt. I soldered the
center conductor to one leg & the shield to the other. I placed this on a
patch
of duct tape & potted it in epoxy. Worked fine for the 7 years I flew it.
Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
Charleston,Arkansas
Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
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| Subject: | Re: VOR Antenna limitations |
--> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I feel the same way...reception before looks and drag. But, I had been
hoping to use an archer in each wingtip for each NAV radio. I *think*
the reference I saw was relating to NAV's. I also know that if you use
a signal splitter (not the proper name) for the nav signal to 2 radios,
you end up with less signal available for each radio. While I've had
no problems in my current plane with this, I thought that the
one-antenna-per wingtip thing was just the ticket. Now I'm thinking
maybe a cat whiskers with a splitter might be the way it has to be.
Still have to think about that one. I'll run the wires to the wing
either way just in case.
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
Tim Bryan wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
>
> I had heard that too, but thought it was tying two Comms together. Nav is
> pretty pasive isn't it? Don't really know myself. I installed the whiskers
> in the top of the vertical and am happy with that. If I don't poke my eye
> out that is. Seriously, good reception is more important to me than the
> knot or two I *might* loose.
>
> Tim
> DNA
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Tim Olson
> Date: 05/30/05 19:54:56
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: VOR Antenna limitations
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Tim,
>
> I have seen it written that the practice of tying together the NAV
> antennas to get them to provide coverage from both sides of the
> plane is something to specifically avoid. It produces unwanted
> side effects. I'm currently leaning towards the archer antennas
> too, and always worried that Kim's problem would be the downfall.
> I hadn't heard anything but good things until now...... I guess
> now I have reason to be leery and perhaps look again at the cat
> whiskers.
>
> Tim Olson -- RV-10 #170
>
>
> Tim Bryan wrote:
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
>>
>>You mentioned you installed the nav antennas in the wing tips (plural).
>
> If
>
>>this is true, why would you have this issue? If not, could you install in
>>both wing tips and tie the nav antennas together?
>>
>>Tim
>>
>>-------Original Message-------
>>
>>From: Knicholas2@aol.com
>>Date: 05/30/05 11:17:39
>>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RV-List: VOR Antenna limitations
>>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
>>
>>When I built my RV9A I built it for IFR certification. (I don't
>
> necessarily
>
>>think long "hard" IFR in a single engine is a good idea, but it is nice
>
> to
>
>>get through those Seattle marine layers). That has been argued elsewhere.
>
>
>>
>>Anyway... I installed the Archer nav antennas in the wing tips. THey work
>>well UNLESS the VOR is on the wrong side of the plane and the fuselage
>>blocks
>>the signal. This makes for an unsafe (and illegal) approach if you lose
>>your
>>signal. I am trying to avoid the ugly "towel bar" VOR antennas. What
>
> are
>
>>others doing to compensate for this?
>>
>>Kim Nicholas
>>RV9A
>>Seattle
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon D-10A Ticking |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Isler" <jlisler@alltel.net>
I think I have figured out what is going on with my Dynon D-10A. It appears
that if you have the keep alive circuit wired up to the Dynon and you let
the main bus voltage drop to 10.5 volts or so due to not maintaining the
proper charge on the main battery, the keep alive circuit cannot function
properly due to the low voltage on it's input. At this low voltage it will
start making an audible ticking noise as it tries to keep the internal
battery charged. However it cannot properly charge the battery in this
condition. The Dynon internal battery indicates slightly greater than 16
volts when charged and the charging circuit is normally operating at ~ 13
volts on it's input. Through some magic the Dynon internal charging circuit
output has to be greater than 16 volts to keep the battery charged. Now that
I have a full charge on the PC-680 everything is working fine. No more
ticking.
Be aware if you hear your Dynon ticking. Your ships bus voltage is probably
low. Also the Dynon will not power up if it's voltage drops below some
voltage threshold. I do not know this exact voltage.
Jerry Isler
RV-4 N455J
Donalsonville, GA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Isler" <jlisler@alltel.net>
Subject: RV-List: Dynon D-10A Ticking
> So now for the real question. I have noticed lately that the Dyon D-10A
> was making a ticking noise when everything on the plane was turned off.
The
> tick is about every second. I have the keep alive circuit wired up to an
> always hot bus so that the internal battery in the Dynon will stay charged
> up. I think the noise is from this circuit because I disconnected the
> connector from the back of the Dynon and the noise stopped and resumed
when
> it was reconnected. Is this ticking noise normal? Could this be the cause
of
> my dead battery? Will a dead battery on the plane drain the internal
battery
> on the Dynon? Will a PC-680 go completely dead if you let the voltage get
> down to about 10.5 volts (I have not charged the battery in a while)?
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| Subject: | What's a "VOR" ??? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" <bicyclop@pacbell.net>
Terrorists won't jam GPS. A few small airplanes getting lost doesn't
really count as all hell breaking loose. Most certificated birds still
have nav/coms in them anyway. It's only us spermentals that don't. The
military will jam GPS when they think that they need to. They're the
ones to watch out for.
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Besing
Subject: RE: RV-List: What's a "VOR" ???
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <paul@kitlog.com>
What happens when terrorists use GPS jamming devices? Talk about all
hell
breaking loose... That wouldn't be that difficult to do.
Paul Besing
RV-6A Sold
Kitlog Builder's Software
www.kitlog.com
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chuck
Subject: RV-List: What's a "VOR" ???
--> RV-List message posted by: Chuck <chuck515tigger@yahoo.com>
Hey I ain't seen any good flamin' for awhile, so I'll see what I can
stir
up....
VOR's are extinct! Yep they went the way of covered wagons, revolvers,
and
startin' fires with flint. EVERYONE is using GPS, pilotage and
dead-reckoning. Heck a'doodle lining up 'dem cross hairs is for
Sissies,
student pilots, and folks who can't afford 100 bucks for a hand-held GPS
that'll get you darn near anywheres, anytime, anyhow ('cept watch out
for
those F-18's when ya' blow through one of 'dem darn alphabet-soup
areas).
There, that ought to do it. Nomex britches on...
Chuck
Oldsfolks@aol.com wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
I put a VOR dipole antenna inside the canopy of our RV-4 using 1/4"
copper
tape,placed about 1 1/2" above the metal canopy skirt. I soldered the
center conductor to one leg & the shield to the other. I placed this on
a
patch
of duct tape & potted it in epoxy. Worked fine for the 7 years I flew
it.
Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
Charleston,Arkansas
Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
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| Subject: | What's a "VOR" ??? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
> What happens when terrorists use GPS jamming devices? Talk about all hell
> breaking loose... That wouldn't be that difficult to do.
Not much more difficult than jamming VOR, I'll bet.
Y'all should come to Canada, where we still use ADF.
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC
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| Subject: | VOR Antenna limitations |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
I disagree. I have the Archer Antenna in my RV-6 and it works great. You
must have installed the antenna incorrectly if you are having a problem.
Any RV that I have flown with that have the V antenna does not pick up
signals as well as mine antenna does.
I flew to NoCAL and back to SoCAL this weekend. My SOP is to go GPS direct
but have the VOR tuned to a station in front of the airplane. I was picking
up singals of VORs on both sides of the airplane this weekend.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,680 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com
----Original Message Follows----
From: Knicholas2@aol.com
Subject: RV-List: VOR Antenna limitations
--> RV-List message posted by: Knicholas2@aol.com
When I built my RV9A I built it for IFR certification. (I don't necessarily
think long "hard" IFR in a single engine is a good idea, but it is nice to
get through those Seattle marine layers). That has been argued
elsewhere....
Anyway... I installed the Archer nav antennas in the wing tips. THey work
well UNLESS the VOR is on the wrong side of the plane and the fuselage
blocks
the signal. This makes for an unsafe (and illegal) approach if you lose
your
signal. I am trying to avoid the ugly "towel bar" VOR antennas. What are
others doing to compensate for this?
Kim Nicholas
RV9A
Seattle
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| Subject: | What's a "VOR" ??? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <paul@kitlog.com>
I disagree with this, because there are many many operations both military
and civilian that depend on GPS nowadays. Yes, there usually would be a
backup form of navigation (in my case in Apache helicopters it's an ADF) but
the initial shock value would be intense. Yes, they would overcome, but
think of the thousands of flights each day that use GPS. A well carried out
plan with GPS jamming equipment would cause many problems for a short time.
Plus, all the newer pilots (and older ones that use GPS exclusively) that
don't use VOR's would have problems. I've done BFR's with people and when I
put them under the hood and turn of the GPS, they are completely lost, even
though they have a capable VOR right in front of them. It would cause many
problems. Again, for a short time, but I bet it would warrant serious
airspace restrictions until they got it sorted out.
Paul Besing
RV-6A Sold
Kitlog Builder's Software
www.kitlog.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ed Holyoke
Subject: RE: RV-List: What's a "VOR" ???
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" <bicyclop@pacbell.net>
Terrorists won't jam GPS. A few small airplanes getting lost doesn't
really count as all hell breaking loose. Most certificated birds still
have nav/coms in them anyway. It's only us spermentals that don't. The
military will jam GPS when they think that they need to. They're the
ones to watch out for.
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Besing
Subject: RE: RV-List: What's a "VOR" ???
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <paul@kitlog.com>
What happens when terrorists use GPS jamming devices? Talk about all
hell
breaking loose... That wouldn't be that difficult to do.
Paul Besing
RV-6A Sold
Kitlog Builder's Software
www.kitlog.com
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chuck
Subject: RV-List: What's a "VOR" ???
--> RV-List message posted by: Chuck <chuck515tigger@yahoo.com>
Hey I ain't seen any good flamin' for awhile, so I'll see what I can
stir
up....
VOR's are extinct! Yep they went the way of covered wagons, revolvers,
and
startin' fires with flint. EVERYONE is using GPS, pilotage and
dead-reckoning. Heck a'doodle lining up 'dem cross hairs is for
Sissies,
student pilots, and folks who can't afford 100 bucks for a hand-held GPS
that'll get you darn near anywheres, anytime, anyhow ('cept watch out
for
those F-18's when ya' blow through one of 'dem darn alphabet-soup
areas).
There, that ought to do it. Nomex britches on...
Chuck
Oldsfolks@aol.com wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
I put a VOR dipole antenna inside the canopy of our RV-4 using 1/4"
copper
tape,placed about 1 1/2" above the metal canopy skirt. I soldered the
center conductor to one leg & the shield to the other. I placed this on
a
patch
of duct tape & potted it in epoxy. Worked fine for the 7 years I flew
it.
Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
Charleston,Arkansas
Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
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| Subject: | Re: What's a "VOR" ??? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> What happens when terrorists use GPS jamming devices? Talk about all hell
> breaking loose... That wouldn't be that difficult to do.
I guess if they figure out how to do that on a wide
scale for a long time, we'll all have bigger problems
than figuring out where we are.
One trick is to put your GPS antenna on the top of the
airplane. Unless the jamming comes from the skies
above you, you're pretty immune from jamming signals
from the ground. :-)
However, not knowing how the GPS system is managed, or
if it has any points of failure, having a backup plan is
a good idea.
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 Wiring
do not archive
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| Subject: | Rudder Riveting Question |
--> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
Hi all,
I should be ready to rivet my rudder this weekend, assuming I can get the
priming done sometime this week. At the base of the rudder, where the rudder
brace R-710 sits on the rib R-704, there is either limited or no access to the
shop side of the rivets when riveting the skin on. Is there a trick to getting
this spot riveted? I would normally squeeze everything on the outer ribs/skin
interface. I assembled this area and am sort of lost on how to approach it.
Blind rivets would work, but I would like to avoid them for the sake of
uniformity.
Thoughts?
Michael Wynn
RV-8, Empennage
San Ramon, California
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder Riveting Question |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Farner <sfarner@gmail.com>
Michael,
At first I thought that I would have to use some blind rivets there
because of limited bucking access, but I was able to squeeze all of
those rivets with the longeron yoke (definitely worth getting if you
don't have one yet - it is used in so many other places).
Scott
www.scottfarner.com
RV-7A
waiting for fuse
On 5/30/05, MLWynn@aol.com <MLWynn@aol.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
>
> Hi all,
>
> I should be ready to rivet my rudder this weekend, assuming I can get the
> priming done sometime this week. At the base of the rudder, where the rudder
> brace R-710 sits on the rib R-704, there is either limited or no access to the
> shop side of the rivets when riveting the skin on. Is there a trick to getting
> this spot riveted? I would normally squeeze everything on the outer ribs/skin
> interface. I assembled this area and am sort of lost on how to approach it.
> Blind rivets would work, but I would like to avoid them for the sake of
> uniformity.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Michael Wynn
> RV-8, Empennage
> San Ramon, California
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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