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1. 08:32 AM - RV-6A for sale (Aircraft Technical Book Company)
2. 11:38 AM - Re: Air Chart Systems ()
3. 01:06 PM - VAN'S TACH PROBLEMS (Bruno)
4. 01:32 PM - Memory Card GX-50 (jacklockamy)
5. 02:47 PM - safetying AFP split ring (sarg314)
6. 03:13 PM - nose gear interferes with FAB (sarg314)
7. 03:56 PM - Re: nose gear interferes with FAB (Dale Ensing)
8. 04:06 PM - Re: nose gear interferes with FAB (Jim Jewell)
9. 04:14 PM - Re: safetying AFP split ring (Jim Jewell)
10. 04:37 PM - Re: Memory Card GX-50 (Dan Checkoway)
11. 06:16 PM - Re: safetying AFP split ring (Bob C.)
12. 06:19 PM - Re: safetying AFP split ring (Alex Peterson)
13. 06:23 PM - Re: safetying AFP split ring (Alex Peterson)
14. 07:08 PM - Re: safetying AFP split ring (sarg314)
15. 07:14 PM - Selective Radio Reception (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
16. 07:40 PM - Re: Re: Air Chart Systems (Richard Sipp)
17. 08:03 PM - Re: safetying AFP split ring (Dave Bristol)
18. 08:18 PM - Re: Re: Air Chart Systems (Derrick Aubuchon)
19. 08:26 PM - Re: safetying AFP split ring (Terry Watson)
20. 08:55 PM - Re: Re: Air Chart Systems (Charlie England)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com>
I'm considering selling my RV-6A, located in Granby, Colorado. If you're
interested or know anyone who might be, please call 970 887-2194 (home) or
970 887-2207 (work).
Here's a link with some pictures and details:
http://www.buildersbooks.com/rv_6a_for_sale.htm
Andy Gold
Builder's Bookstore
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| Subject: | Re: Air Chart Systems |
--> RV-List message posted by: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com>
Dan I love it. Gee, even famous astronauts, WWII fighter pilots and airshow performers
endorse it. I bought mine in the 1999-2000 year. I had the VFR Atlas
(discontinued I see) and VFR Topo Atlas. The Topo Atlas is really just color
US Gov sectionals chopped up and placed into the book. In the back are excerpts
of Terminal charts. That is one thing I would never do is go into any terminal
area, like LAX area, VFR with out a terminal chart, even with a GPS. I just
like having the paper in hand. The only thing I can say negative is sometimes
the page breaks are in bad places, take LAX area for example, it is not central
on a page but is divided in 1/2 N-S, which is a little pain. They are receptive
to customer input and no doubt revise and improve the page "pagination".
No big deal but just a little pain sometimes if the palce you want to look at
is split between pages.
The VFR Atlas was like a monochrome IFR enroute chart (no topo) with airways, VORs,
all airports (VFR or IFR), ATC freq and airport diagram for selected airports.
I really did not use it much since I used GPS direct most of the time. That
is why they likely discontinued it. The IFR Atlas is probably near equivalent.
The nice thin g about the VFR Atlas was the ATC freqs and data was easier
to see without the Topo info.
My recommendation is buy it (VFR Topo), at least once, you will use it. However
for me with color GPS and terrain it is kind of redundant, but it is nice to
have the paper for back-up and planning.
If you are really going to travel the USA, anywhere the wind blows, it is a good
deal vs buying individual (VFR) sectionals or (IFR) enroute charts. Also if
weather of change of plans calls for a detour you are covered. I recall you got
updated for one year with the purchase price. However weh I had it I recall
the updates (28 days) are done manually by NOTAM and with pen and a revision log.
This keeps the cost down while still keeping you legal.
Looking at their site I see they have a new revision service for extra cost? If
you are a local 2, 3 , 4 state flyer than maybe this system is overkill, but
I think a one time purchase is a fine idea. Personally now I buy WAC's or sectional
charts as I needed, check NOTAMS by the WEB & Flt Service and update my
GPS data-base as needed. For me the things that can get you into trouble are
things that happen real fast and are disseminated by NOTAM: local, Distant, FDC.
Airspace restrictions, towers, runway closure, GPS out of service can come
out before the 28 day cycle, so any chart system is not a sure thing. I have
always been impressed (intimidated) by how much data a pilot really needs to
study to be truly legal. We do the best we can. Don't laugh I am an ATP, CFI,
CFII and MEI and even airlines miss it. An Airline, no names please, flew a route
to the pacific rim and use Guam as an alternate. Guam is permanently closed/dismantled,
D'oh.
I fly VFR in my RV, but I might be a little more rigorous if I was IFR, but I do
all the IFR I want at work.
I think you will like it, especially if you plan on lots of travel in the near
term. You will get your money out of it. Even though my Air Chart System is not
current it makes a nice reference.
Cheers George
From: Dan Krueger <pndkrueg@mchsi.com>
Subject: Air Chart Systems
I looked at their charts at Sun n Fun, but it was to busy for me to
really get a feel for using their VFR Sectional Atlas. My wife is tired
of folding sectionals. Their product seams ideal for our planes. Any
comments on the ease of using the VFR Atlas would be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks
Dan Krueger
RV6A Flying
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| Subject: | VAN'S TACH PROBLEMS |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bruno <rv4@videotron.ca>
Hello Greg
I've got the same problem with my new Van's
Tachcometer..The thing is completely dead.
I have a new one coming from Van's, I will try to troubleshoot when I get it
next week.I will post the results.
Bruno Dionne
C-GDBH RV-4
<mailto:Rv4@videotron.ca> Rv4@videotron.ca
Do not archive
P.S# Gus, at Van's told me to use the drill in reverse for what it's worth.
Time: 07:22:40 AM PST US
From: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.edu>
"'owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com '"@roxy.matronics.com
Subject: RV-List: tach sensor
--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.edu>
Greg,
signal should be a squarewave 5V if I remember correctly, eight cycles per
rev. Voltage may be higher though. What's important is the digital signal.
DVOM won't see this at drill speed unless it has a dwell/frequency counter.
Reading it on the AC setting may show a voltage though.
O Scope is best way to see it.
You should be able to hook up power and ground with the DVOM on signal and
turn it slowly, by finger, say one rev per ten seconds, and see the
switching action though.
W
Time: 01:15:50 AM PST US
From: Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV-List: Van's Tach Doctor Needed
--> RV-List message posted by: Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com>
I've got .5 hours on the 2 1/4" tach and tach
generator that Van sells. My mechanic buddy found the generator loose
during first-flight inspection and tightened it with a big wrench. Soon
after the tach died.
I get 12+ volts from I to GND, and 8.68 volts from S
to GND (whether my drill is revving the drive or not).
Now I'm wondering if my drill should be set to
reverse, not forward.
Any ideas on how to diagnose this thing(s)?
Thanks.
Greg
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| Subject: | Memory Card GX-50 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "jacklockamy" <jacklockamy@verizon.net>
Anyone know of a USB memory card reader/writer that will work with the flash card
in a Garmin (aka. Apollo) GX-60? Jeppesen has one but they want a 'whopping
$150 plus shipping" for what should be a $10 item.... I'm having trouble swallowing
that kind of expense.
Any suggestions would be appreciated. I've seen 12-in-1 USB flash card reader/writers
advertized for about $10 bucks on E-Bay, but don't know if they are compatible
with the Jeppesen databases/GX-50 flash cards.
Thanks in advance,
Jack Lockamy
Camarillo, CA
RV-7A flying (N174JL)
www.jacklockamy.com
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| Subject: | safetying AFP split ring |
--> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
I am working on my FAB which is attached to an AFP air/fuel controller.
Those who have the AFP system are familiar with the split ring that is
used to grip the controller's intake. That bolts to an elliptical
shaped plate which is screwed to the FAB. Four 1/4-20 bolts go through
the elliptical plate and into blind tapped holes in the split ring.
It occurs to me that if one of those bolts were to work loose, it would
get sucked into the engine. Yet, the short 1/4-20 stainless bolts that
were supplied by AFP do not have drilled heads, so they can't be
safetied. My local aircraft parts place doesn't have any drilled head
1/4-20 bolts.
My AFP unit is about 5 years old. Has AFP since corrected this by
supplying drilled head bolts? What have other builders done? I am not
willing to depend on a lock washer in this area.
--
Tom Sargent
RV-6A, cowing.
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| Subject: | nose gear interferes with FAB |
--> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
Mounting the FAB (vertical induction engine) on an RV-6A for the first
time, I discover that the aft part of the FAB hits the nose gear. I
can't get it back far enough to mount it to the the AFP air/fuel
controller. Looks like I'll have to glass in a recess in the aft end of
the FAB to get it mounted.
Is this typical, or am I missing something?
--
Tom Sargent RV-6A
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| Subject: | Re: nose gear interferes with FAB |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
Yes Tom, interference is normal on the 6A.
The FAB box must be releived to clear the front gear on the 6A. I marked
the airbox for the width necessary to clear the gear leg then cut a opening
in the box a little wider and long enough to clear the gear. Remember there
is going to be some engine shake. Then lay a piece of plastic pipe in the
slot and lay up new glass cloth inside the airbox. Makes a nice round recess
for the gear. Be careful on the length of the cut into the floor of the box
as the airfilter must rest flat on the box floor.
Dale Ensing
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| Subject: | Re: nose gear interferes with FAB |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Hi Tom,
Heat gun, short length of one inch pipe. Heat area, press pipe into FAB.
Tidy up by sanding, apply epoxy if needed.
Jim in Kelowna
----- Original Message -----
From: "sarg314" <sarg314@comcast.net>
Subject: RV-List: nose gear interferes with FAB
> --> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
>
> Mounting the FAB (vertical induction engine) on an RV-6A for the first
> time, I discover that the aft part of the FAB hits the nose gear. I
> can't get it back far enough to mount it to the the AFP air/fuel
> controller. Looks like I'll have to glass in a recess in the aft end of
> the FAB to get it mounted.
>
> Is this typical, or am I missing something?
> --
> Tom Sargent RV-6A
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: safetying AFP split ring |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Hi Tom,
When in this situation, I Drill the supplied bolt heads.
Get a good 1/16th" drill, some cutting fluid and keep the drill speed fairly
low or moderate.
Jim in Kelowna
----- Original Message -----
From: "sarg314" <sarg314@comcast.net>
Subject: RV-List: safetying AFP split ring
> --> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
>
> I am working on my FAB which is attached to an AFP air/fuel controller.
> Those who have the AFP system are familiar with the split ring that is
> used to grip the controller's intake. That bolts to an elliptical
> shaped plate which is screwed to the FAB. Four 1/4-20 bolts go through
> the elliptical plate and into blind tapped holes in the split ring.
>
> It occurs to me that if one of those bolts were to work loose, it would
> get sucked into the engine. Yet, the short 1/4-20 stainless bolts that
> were supplied by AFP do not have drilled heads, so they can't be
> safetied. My local aircraft parts place doesn't have any drilled head
> 1/4-20 bolts.
>
> My AFP unit is about 5 years old. Has AFP since corrected this by
> supplying drilled head bolts? What have other builders done? I am not
> willing to depend on a lock washer in this area.
> --
> Tom Sargent
> RV-6A, cowing.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Memory Card GX-50 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Jack,
I bit the bullet and bought the Jeppesen Skybound card programmer. It
supports three card styles, the PCMCIA, Edge, and Garmin. My GX-60 uses the
PCMCIA style card. I paid the bucks for the "known good" programmer, but
I'd be interested in learning if there's a cheaper solution. Not sure if
the Skybound software requires the proprietary programmer or not...
If you have a Jepp internet download subscription and want to use my
programmer, you can feel free to c'mon over to Chino and do that.
do not archive
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "jacklockamy" <jacklockamy@verizon.net>
Subject: RV-List: Memory Card GX-50
> --> RV-List message posted by: "jacklockamy" <jacklockamy@verizon.net>
>
> Anyone know of a USB memory card reader/writer that will work with the
flash card in a Garmin (aka. Apollo) GX-60? Jeppesen has one but they want
a 'whopping $150 plus shipping" for what should be a $10 item.... I'm
having trouble swallowing that kind of expense.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated. I've seen 12-in-1 USB flash card
reader/writers advertized for about $10 bucks on E-Bay, but don't know if
they are compatible with the Jeppesen databases/GX-50 flash cards.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Jack Lockamy
> Camarillo, CA
> RV-7A flying (N174JL)
> www.jacklockamy.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: safetying AFP split ring |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob C. " <flyboy.bob@gmail.com>
Tom,
My FAB came with safetying tabs which according to the instructions should
be used to safety those bolts.
I'm not that far yet, so haven't done it . . . but read ahead!?
Good Luck,
Bob
On 6/11/05, sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
>
> I am working on my FAB which is attached to an AFP air/fuel controller.
> Those who have the AFP system are familiar with the split ring that is
> used to grip the controller's intake. That bolts to an elliptical
> shaped plate which is screwed to the FAB. Four 1/4-20 bolts go through
> the elliptical plate and into blind tapped holes in the split ring.
>
> It occurs to me that if one of those bolts were to work loose, it would
> get sucked into the engine. Yet, the short 1/4-20 stainless bolts that
> were supplied by AFP do not have drilled heads, so they can't be
> safetied. My local aircraft parts place doesn't have any drilled head
> 1/4-20 bolts.
>
> My AFP unit is about 5 years old. Has AFP since corrected this by
> supplying drilled head bolts? What have other builders done? I am not
> willing to depend on a lock washer in this area.
> --
> Tom Sargent
> RV-6A, cowing.
>
>
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| Subject: | safetying AFP split ring |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> I am working on my FAB which is attached to an AFP air/fuel controller.
> Those who have the AFP system are familiar with the split ring that is
> used to grip the controller's intake. That bolts to an elliptical
> shaped plate which is screwed to the FAB. Four 1/4-20 bolts go through
> the elliptical plate and into blind tapped holes in the split ring.
>
> It occurs to me that if one of those bolts were to work loose, it would
> get sucked into the engine. Yet, the short 1/4-20 stainless bolts that
> were supplied by AFP do not have drilled heads, so they can't be
> safetied. My local aircraft parts place doesn't have any drilled head
> 1/4-20 bolts.
>
> My AFP unit is about 5 years old. Has AFP since corrected this by
> supplying drilled head bolts? What have other builders done? I am not
> willing to depend on a lock washer in this area.
> --
> Tom Sargent
> RV-6A, cowing.
Tom, I used some blue (was it?) Loctite. Maybe the red, I can't remember
right now. Anyway, it was the removable type. I don't think there would be
room for safety wiring, as the socket head doesn't stick out much. Clean
the parts in solvent to remove any oils prior to applying the Loctite.
Alex Peterson
RV6-A N66AP 624 hours
Maple Grove, MN
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| Subject: | safetying AFP split ring |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> I am working on my FAB which is attached to an AFP air/fuel controller.
> Those who have the AFP system are familiar with the split ring that is
> used to grip the controller's intake. That bolts to an elliptical
> shaped plate which is screwed to the FAB. Four 1/4-20 bolts go through
> the elliptical plate and into blind tapped holes in the split ring.
>
> It occurs to me that if one of those bolts were to work loose, it would
> get sucked into the engine. Yet, the short 1/4-20 stainless bolts that
> were supplied by AFP do not have drilled heads, so they can't be
> safetied. My local aircraft parts place doesn't have any drilled head
> 1/4-20 bolts.
>
> My AFP unit is about 5 years old. Has AFP since corrected this by
> supplying drilled head bolts? What have other builders done? I am not
> willing to depend on a lock washer in this area.
> --
> Tom Sargent
> RV-6A, cowing.
>
Tom, I just re-read your message, and my last post was in error. The four
bolts you describe are not in the induction path. Those four plate to ring
mounting bolts come from the top, and are outside the induction path. I
incorrectly assumed you were talking about the split ring (one each) bolt,
which is in the induction path.
Alex Peterson
RV6-A N66AP 624 hours
Maple Grove, MN
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| Subject: | Re: safetying AFP split ring |
--> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
>
>
>>Tom, I just re-read your message, and my last post was in error. The four
>>bolts you describe are not in the induction path. Those four plate to ring
>>mounting bolts come from the top, and are outside the induction path. I
>>incorrectly assumed you were talking about the split ring (one each) bolt,
>>which is in the induction path.
>>
>>Alex Peterson
>>RV6-A N66AP 624 hours
>>Maple Grove, MN
>>
Alex:
I had the split ring upside down! The split ring isn't addressed in
the AFP manual because it is RV-specific, I guess. The circa 1999 Van's
documentation on the FAB only references connecting to a carbuerator, so
I was guessing. Thanks very much.
--
Tom Sargent RV-6A
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| Subject: | Selective Radio Reception |
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
Howdy listers-
Odd problem here- In communicating with dozens of other aircraft in the last
year and a half, all report hearing me loud and clear, and I receive most of
their transmissions just fine whether they are in the pattern with me or 50
miles away.
But there are TWO aircraft out of all of them that I can just barely hear-
one (another RV) is broken and staticky, and another (a rental Cherokee where
I'm based) I can't hear at all, just a slight change in background noise when
they are transmitting. These two aircraft report they can hear me fine.
Distance between and relative postion or orientation do not change this behavior.
Other a/c and unicom report hearing both of us fine as well. My radio is
Microair 760, bent whip bottom of fuse, and it doesn't matter whether I'm plugged
direct to the radio or through a Softcomm portable intercom when I've got a
co-pilot.
Any ideas?
Signed- Selective Reception in Columbia
(Mark Phillips)
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| Subject: | Re: Air Chart Systems |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net>
For you guys using and liking the AvCharts, how are you plotting a long
track line that crosses several pages?
Dick Sipp
----- Original Message -----
From: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV-List: Re: Air Chart Systems
> --> RV-List message posted by: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com>
>
> Dan I love it. Gee, even famous astronauts, WWII fighter pilots and
> airshow performers endorse it. I bought mine in the 1999-2000 year. I had
> the VFR Atlas (discontinued I see) and VFR Topo Atlas. The Topo Atlas is
> really just color US Gov sectionals chopped up and placed into the book.
> In the back are excerpts of Terminal charts. That is one thing I would
> never do is go into any terminal area, like LAX area, VFR with out a
> terminal chart, even with a GPS. I just like having the paper in hand. The
> only thing I can say negative is sometimes the page breaks are in bad
> places, take LAX area for example, it is not central on a page but is
> divided in 1/2 N-S, which is a little pain. They are receptive to customer
> input and no doubt revise and improve the page "pagination". No big deal
> but just a little pain sometimes if the palce you want to look at is split
> between pages.
>
> The VFR Atlas was like a monochrome IFR enroute chart (no topo) with
> airways, VORs, all airports (VFR or IFR), ATC freq and airport diagram for
> selected airports. I really did not use it much since I used GPS direct
> most of the time. That is why they likely discontinued it. The IFR Atlas
> is probably near equivalent. The nice thin g about the VFR Atlas was the
> ATC freqs and data was easier to see without the Topo info.
>
> My recommendation is buy it (VFR Topo), at least once, you will use it.
> However for me with color GPS and terrain it is kind of redundant, but it
> is nice to have the paper for back-up and planning.
>
> If you are really going to travel the USA, anywhere the wind blows, it is
> a good deal vs buying individual (VFR) sectionals or (IFR) enroute charts.
> Also if weather of change of plans calls for a detour you are covered. I
> recall you got updated for one year with the purchase price. However weh I
> had it I recall the updates (28 days) are done manually by NOTAM and with
> pen and a revision log. This keeps the cost down while still keeping you
> legal.
>
> Looking at their site I see they have a new revision service for extra
> cost? If you are a local 2, 3 , 4 state flyer than maybe this system is
> overkill, but I think a one time purchase is a fine idea. Personally now I
> buy WAC's or sectional charts as I needed, check NOTAMS by the WEB & Flt
> Service and update my GPS data-base as needed. For me the things that can
> get you into trouble are things that happen real fast and are disseminated
> by NOTAM: local, Distant, FDC. Airspace restrictions, towers, runway
> closure, GPS out of service can come out before the 28 day cycle, so any
> chart system is not a sure thing. I have always been impressed
> (intimidated) by how much data a pilot really needs to study to be truly
> legal. We do the best we can. Don't laugh I am an ATP, CFI, CFII and MEI
> and even airlines miss it. An Airline, no names please, flew a route to
> the pacific rim and use Guam as an alternate. Guam is permanently
> closed/dismantled, D'oh.
>
> I fly VFR in my RV, but I might be a little more rigorous if I was IFR,
> but I do all the IFR I want at work.
>
> I think you will like it, especially if you plan on lots of travel in the
> near term. You will get your money out of it. Even though my Air Chart
> System is not current it makes a nice reference.
>
> Cheers George
>
> From: Dan Krueger <pndkrueg@mchsi.com>
> Subject: Air Chart Systems
> Date: Jun 10, 2005
>
>
> I looked at their charts at Sun n Fun, but it was to busy for me to
> really get a feel for using their VFR Sectional Atlas. My wife is tired
> of folding sectionals. Their product seams ideal for our planes. Any
> comments on the ease of using the VFR Atlas would be greatly
> appreciated.
> Thanks
> Dan Krueger
> RV6A Flying
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: safetying AFP split ring |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dave Bristol <dbris200@sbcglobal.net>
By the way, around those 4 bolts is where the airbox plate cracks. I
fabricated an .060" reinforcing ring about 1" wide, to fit around the
controller and under the bolt heads. This spreads the loads that are
otherwise concentrated at the bolts, causing cracking.
Dave -6 So Cal
sarg314 wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>>Tom, I just re-read your message, and my last post was in error. The four
>>>bolts you describe are not in the induction path. Those four plate to ring
>>>mounting bolts come from the top, and are outside the induction path. I
>>>incorrectly assumed you were talking about the split ring (one each) bolt,
>>>which is in the induction path.
>>>
>>>Alex Peterson
>>>RV6-A N66AP 624 hours
>>>Maple Grove, MN
>>>
>>>
>>>
>Alex:
> I had the split ring upside down! The split ring isn't addressed in
>the AFP manual because it is RV-specific, I guess. The circa 1999 Van's
>documentation on the FAB only references connecting to a carbuerator, so
>I was guessing. Thanks very much.
>--
>Tom Sargent RV-6A
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Air Chart Systems |
--> RV-List message posted by: Derrick Aubuchon <n184da@volcano.net>
I do my initial planning using an on-line flight planner,, find out the
magnetic course/distances,, the transfer that data to each page of
the Atlas.
For really LONG flights,, as in California to OSH, I make removable &
numbered tabs
for each sequential page using small sticky notes.
Derrick L. Aubuchon
RV-4: N184DA
Jackson/Westover -Amador County (O70)
n184da@volcano.net
On Jun 11, 2005, at 7:39 PM, Richard Sipp wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net>
>
> For you guys using and liking the AvCharts, how are you plotting a
> long
> track line that crosses several pages?
>
> Dick Sipp
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Re: Air Chart Systems
>
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com>
>>
>> Dan I love it. Gee, even famous astronauts, WWII fighter pilots and
>> airshow performers endorse it. I bought mine in the 1999-2000
>> year. I had
>> the VFR Atlas (discontinued I see) and VFR Topo Atlas. The Topo
>> Atlas is
>> really just color US Gov sectionals chopped up and placed into the
>> book.
>> In the back are excerpts of Terminal charts. That is one thing I
>> would
>> never do is go into any terminal area, like LAX area, VFR with out a
>> terminal chart, even with a GPS. I just like having the paper in
>> hand. The
>> only thing I can say negative is sometimes the page breaks are in bad
>> places, take LAX area for example, it is not central on a page but is
>> divided in 1/2 N-S, which is a little pain. They are receptive to
>> customer
>> input and no doubt revise and improve the page "pagination". No
>> big deal
>> but just a little pain sometimes if the palce you want to look at
>> is split
>> between pages.
>>
>> The VFR Atlas was like a monochrome IFR enroute chart (no topo) with
>> airways, VORs, all airports (VFR or IFR), ATC freq and airport
>> diagram for
>> selected airports. I really did not use it much since I used GPS
>> direct
>> most of the time. That is why they likely discontinued it. The IFR
>> Atlas
>> is probably near equivalent. The nice thin g about the VFR Atlas
>> was the
>> ATC freqs and data was easier to see without the Topo info.
>>
>> My recommendation is buy it (VFR Topo), at least once, you will
>> use it.
>> However for me with color GPS and terrain it is kind of
>> redundant, but it
>> is nice to have the paper for back-up and planning.
>>
>> If you are really going to travel the USA, anywhere the wind
>> blows, it is
>> a good deal vs buying individual (VFR) sectionals or (IFR) enroute
>> charts.
>> Also if weather of change of plans calls for a detour you are
>> covered. I
>> recall you got updated for one year with the purchase price.
>> However weh I
>> had it I recall the updates (28 days) are done manually by NOTAM
>> and with
>> pen and a revision log. This keeps the cost down while still
>> keeping you
>> legal.
>>
>> Looking at their site I see they have a new revision service for
>> extra
>> cost? If you are a local 2, 3 , 4 state flyer than maybe this
>> system is
>> overkill, but I think a one time purchase is a fine idea.
>> Personally now I
>> buy WAC's or sectional charts as I needed, check NOTAMS by the WEB
>> & Flt
>> Service and update my GPS data-base as needed. For me the things
>> that can
>> get you into trouble are things that happen real fast and are
>> disseminated
>> by NOTAM: local, Distant, FDC. Airspace restrictions, towers, runway
>> closure, GPS out of service can come out before the 28 day cycle,
>> so any
>> chart system is not a sure thing. I have always been impressed
>> (intimidated) by how much data a pilot really needs to study to be
>> truly
>> legal. We do the best we can. Don't laugh I am an ATP, CFI, CFII
>> and MEI
>> and even airlines miss it. An Airline, no names please, flew a
>> route to
>> the pacific rim and use Guam as an alternate. Guam is permanently
>> closed/dismantled, D'oh.
>>
>> I fly VFR in my RV, but I might be a little more rigorous if I was
>> IFR,
>> but I do all the IFR I want at work.
>>
>> I think you will like it, especially if you plan on lots of
>> travel in the
>> near term. You will get your money out of it. Even though my Air
>> Chart
>> System is not current it makes a nice reference.
>>
>> Cheers George
>>
>> From: Dan Krueger <pndkrueg@mchsi.com>
>> Subject: Air Chart Systems
>> Date: Jun 10, 2005
>>
>>
>> I looked at their charts at Sun n Fun, but it was to busy for me to
>> really get a feel for using their VFR Sectional Atlas. My wife is
>> tired
>> of folding sectionals. Their product seams ideal for our planes. Any
>> comments on the ease of using the VFR Atlas would be greatly
>> appreciated.
>> Thanks
>> Dan Krueger
>> RV6A Flying
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | safetying AFP split ring |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
Tom,
I was puzzling about the same thing until I realized that the rounded part
of the donut goes down, into the air stream, and the bolts then come through
the flat aluminum plate and into the donut from the top. So, if they work
loose, they are completely outside the filtered air box.
It is possible that they did it differently earlier, but mine is maybe 3
years old.
Be aware that you are probably going to have to build a new oval shaped
mounting plate to offset the FAB back toward the centerline of the cowl
scoop, since the AFP controller is not centered. After several tries, I
found that moving it 3/8" to the side cleared the cowling and left room
inside the FAB for the filter.
Terry
RV-8A Aero Sport Superior IO-360-B1B with Airflow Performance injection
--> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
I am working on my FAB which is attached to an AFP air/fuel controller.
Those who have the AFP system are familiar with the split ring that is
used to grip the controller's intake. That bolts to an elliptical
shaped plate which is screwed to the FAB. Four 1/4-20 bolts go through
the elliptical plate and into blind tapped holes in the split ring.
It occurs to me that if one of those bolts were to work loose, it would
get sucked into the engine. Yet, the short 1/4-20 stainless bolts that
were supplied by AFP do not have drilled heads, so they can't be
safetied. My local aircraft parts place doesn't have any drilled head
1/4-20 bolts.
Tom Sargent
RV-6A, cowing.
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| Subject: | Re: Air Chart Systems |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Richard Sipp wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net>
>
>For you guys using and liking the AvCharts, how are you plotting a long
>track line that crosses several pages?
>
>Dick Sipp
>
I've been using old sectionals to plot the course & note the successive
pages in the book. I've been borrowing a neighbor's book for the few
cross countries I've flown over the last year or so & it's a little more
difficult to use the book if you can't mark it up.
I'll probably break down & buy my own pretty soon, & try to find some
erasable markers to mark my course in the book.
Charlie
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