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1. 04:51 AM - Re: Selective Radio Reception (LarryRobertHelming)
2. 06:49 AM - Re: Memory Card GX-50 (Jeff Dowling)
3. 06:59 AM - Re: VAN'S TACH PROBLEMStach sensorVan's Tach Doctor Needed (Richard Crosley)
4. 07:35 AM - Re: Re: Air Chart Systems (Richard Reynolds)
5. 08:57 AM - Paint Question (Jim Duckett)
6. 09:15 AM - Re: Paint Question (Kendel McCarley)
7. 09:19 AM - Re: Re: Air Chart Systems (Jeff Point)
8. 09:41 AM - Painting (Jim Duckett)
9. 10:59 AM - Re: Painting (David Burton)
10. 11:10 AM - Re: Air Chart Systems (Horse N Buggy) ()
11. 04:09 PM - U-channel rubber molding (jacklockamy)
12. 04:36 PM - Re: U-channel rubber molding (Bobby Hester)
13. 05:31 PM - Boone, IA RV Day (Ralph Koger)
14. 06:37 PM - UP-DATE VAN'S TACH PROBLEMS tach sensorVan's Tach Doctor Needed (Richard Crosley)
15. 07:45 PM - Alternate Static Valve (Mark Taylor)
16. 08:06 PM - Re: Alternate Static Valve (Larry Bowen)
17. 08:08 PM - Rudder Questions: bending the skin and torquing the rod ends (MLWynn@aol.com)
18. 08:16 PM - Re: Alternate Static Valve (Tim Bryan)
19. 09:42 PM - Re: FOR SALE: Turn Coordinator (Scott Jackson)
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| Subject: | Re: Selective Radio Reception |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
I saw you also posted this question to the aeroelectric list. Logically
this seems too simple to me. (I am not an expert but I have completed my
own plane and I have Garmin however.) You do not mention how you/(and the
other two) are received by or receive ATC and CT transmissions. I think you
are being too kind to your two friends. Do they not have reception problems
with other planes besides yours? Have you actually been in those other
planes or just taken their word on this? And you say, you receive all
other planes loud and clear close by and 50 miles away. DAAA.........This
is one of those things about whos problem this is. It is not yours (yours
works with the rest of the world), it is theirs. I don't know why it seems
little annoying problems are being reported by owners of the Microair 760.
It must be close to being marginally ok but when it comes in contact with
someone else that is marginally ok there is a problem. Is this a
possibility??? Kindly suggest it might be a good thing for all three of
you to get radios/antennas work done to stop the problem.
Indiana Larry, RV7 Tip Up It Flies
> --> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
>
> Howdy listers-
>
> Odd problem here- In communicating with dozens of other aircraft in the
> last
> year and a half, all report hearing me loud and clear, and I receive most
> of
> their transmissions just fine whether they are in the pattern with me or
> 50
> miles away.
>
> But there are TWO aircraft out of all of them that I can just barely hear-
> one (another RV) is broken and staticky, and another (a rental Cherokee
> where
> I'm based) I can't hear at all, just a slight change in background noise
> when
> they are transmitting. These two aircraft report they can hear me fine.
> Distance between and relative postion or orientation do not change this
> behavior.
> Other a/c and unicom report hearing both of us fine as well. My radio is
> Microair 760, bent whip bottom of fuse, and it doesn't matter whether I'm
> plugged
> direct to the radio or through a Softcomm portable intercom when I've got
> a
> co-pilot.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Signed- Selective Reception in Columbia
> (Mark Phillips)
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Memory Card GX-50 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
Cant you put the card in a PCMCIA slot? I heard you can find free downloads
that way.
Shemp/Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
200 hours
Chicago/Louisville
----- Original Message -----
From: "jacklockamy" <jacklockamy@verizon.net>
Subject: RV-List: Memory Card GX-50
> --> RV-List message posted by: "jacklockamy" <jacklockamy@verizon.net>
>
> Anyone know of a USB memory card reader/writer that will work with the
> flash card in a Garmin (aka. Apollo) GX-60? Jeppesen has one but they
> want a 'whopping $150 plus shipping" for what should be a $10 item....
> I'm having trouble swallowing that kind of expense.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated. I've seen 12-in-1 USB flash card
> reader/writers advertized for about $10 bucks on E-Bay, but don't know if
> they are compatible with the Jeppesen databases/GX-50 flash cards.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Jack Lockamy
> Camarillo, CA
> RV-7A flying (N174JL)
> www.jacklockamy.com
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: VAN'S TACH PROBLEMStach sensorVan's Tach Doctor Needed |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Crosley" <rcrosley@adelphia.net>
I'll pass along my Van's tach experience, maybe it will help. HIS TROUBLESHOOTING
PARAGRAPH IS WRONG! I Installed gage and sender per directions, started engine,
needle sat on zero. I could see the prop goin' round and round, so I figured
the needle should move. Go to troubleshooting info. I checked power and
ground - good. Go to paragraph 2. Gage reads zero so paragraph 2 doesn't apply.
Paragraph 3 --- the gage does show zero - this is my paragraph. I do what
it says, I ground the wire from the sender and the gage still reads zero.
Gage is bad -- it says, I order a new gage, airplane sits on ground, install same,
get same results. Another bad gage? Unlikely-but possible Call Van's,
Ken says bad sender, I say nothing in your trouble shooting info points to the
sender, everything points to the gage. I say, look send me both a gage and
a sender. They do, I hook every thing up on the bench and run my little drill.
All gages good, first sender bad. I install good sender and any one of three
gages and the system works great. Bottom line, In my case the grounding of
the gage never sent the needle full scale on any gage. The troubleshooting
instructions lead me the wrong direction, cost me two weeks waiting for my first
flight. I told Van's - but I bet the paperwork reads the same. Now here is
my little grip with Van's --- Their typical response is "4000 of these are flying
so it's OK, they all figured it out" Inference being --What's wrong with
you! I pointed out a few drawing screwups along the way and that was the general
response I got. Now maybe I'm spoiled, I did build a Christen Eagle a
few years ago. But, I think in many instances builders build good airplanes
in spit of Van's drawings, not because of them. Ken was very helpful, as always
and sympathized with my plight, but I'll bet the directions didn't change.
Rich Crosley
RV-8, N948RC
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| Subject: | Re: Air Chart Systems |
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Reynolds <rvreynolds@macs.net>
I used the the IFR/VFR Low Altitude Planning Chart for the route
planning and then transferred the route to the VFR Sectional Atlas. I
used the erasable markers, great products. I used post-it notes to
remind me what page to turn to, especially when the route was close
to the edge, Do not forget to label the next page so as to be able
return the the previous page. When you do 180s, you want to know what
is behind you.
Richard Reynolds, Norfolk, VA
RV-6A N841RV
On Jun 11, 2005, at 10:39 PM, Richard Sipp wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net>
>
> For you guys using and liking the AvCharts, how are you plotting a
> long
> track line that crosses several pages?
>
> Dick Sipp
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Re: Air Chart Systems
>
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com>
>>
>> Dan I love it. Gee, even famous astronauts, WWII fighter pilots and
>> airshow performers endorse it. I bought mine in the 1999-2000
>> year. I had
>> the VFR Atlas (discontinued I see) and VFR Topo Atlas. The Topo
>> Atlas is
>> really just color US Gov sectionals chopped up and placed into the
>> book.
>> In the back are excerpts of Terminal charts. That is one thing I
>> would
>> never do is go into any terminal area, like LAX area, VFR with out a
>> terminal chart, even with a GPS. I just like having the paper in
>> hand. The
>> only thing I can say negative is sometimes the page breaks are in bad
>> places, take LAX area for example, it is not central on a page but is
>> divided in 1/2 N-S, which is a little pain. They are receptive to
>> customer
>> input and no doubt revise and improve the page "pagination". No
>> big deal
>> but just a little pain sometimes if the palce you want to look at
>> is split
>> between pages.
>>
>> The VFR Atlas was like a monochrome IFR enroute chart (no topo) with
>> airways, VORs, all airports (VFR or IFR), ATC freq and airport
>> diagram for
>> selected airports. I really did not use it much since I used GPS
>> direct
>> most of the time. That is why they likely discontinued it. The IFR
>> Atlas
>> is probably near equivalent. The nice thin g about the VFR Atlas
>> was the
>> ATC freqs and data was easier to see without the Topo info.
>>
>> My recommendation is buy it (VFR Topo), at least once, you will
>> use it.
>> However for me with color GPS and terrain it is kind of
>> redundant, but it
>> is nice to have the paper for back-up and planning.
>>
>> If you are really going to travel the USA, anywhere the wind
>> blows, it is
>> a good deal vs buying individual (VFR) sectionals or (IFR) enroute
>> charts.
>> Also if weather of change of plans calls for a detour you are
>> covered. I
>> recall you got updated for one year with the purchase price.
>> However weh I
>> had it I recall the updates (28 days) are done manually by NOTAM
>> and with
>> pen and a revision log. This keeps the cost down while still
>> keeping you
>> legal.
>>
>> Looking at their site I see they have a new revision service for
>> extra
>> cost? If you are a local 2, 3 , 4 state flyer than maybe this
>> system is
>> overkill, but I think a one time purchase is a fine idea.
>> Personally now I
>> buy WAC's or sectional charts as I needed, check NOTAMS by the WEB
>> & Flt
>> Service and update my GPS data-base as needed. For me the things
>> that can
>> get you into trouble are things that happen real fast and are
>> disseminated
>> by NOTAM: local, Distant, FDC. Airspace restrictions, towers, runway
>> closure, GPS out of service can come out before the 28 day cycle,
>> so any
>> chart system is not a sure thing. I have always been impressed
>> (intimidated) by how much data a pilot really needs to study to be
>> truly
>> legal. We do the best we can. Don't laugh I am an ATP, CFI, CFII
>> and MEI
>> and even airlines miss it. An Airline, no names please, flew a
>> route to
>> the pacific rim and use Guam as an alternate. Guam is permanently
>> closed/dismantled, D'oh.
>>
>> I fly VFR in my RV, but I might be a little more rigorous if I was
>> IFR,
>> but I do all the IFR I want at work.
>>
>> I think you will like it, especially if you plan on lots of
>> travel in the
>> near term. You will get your money out of it. Even though my Air
>> Chart
>> System is not current it makes a nice reference.
>>
>> Cheers George
>>
>> From: Dan Krueger <pndkrueg@mchsi.com>
>> Subject: Air Chart Systems
>> Date: Jun 10, 2005
>>
>>
>> I looked at their charts at Sun n Fun, but it was to busy for me to
>> really get a feel for using their VFR Sectional Atlas. My wife is
>> tired
>> of folding sectionals. Their product seams ideal for our planes. Any
>> comments on the ease of using the VFR Atlas would be greatly
>> appreciated.
>> Thanks
>> Dan Krueger
>> RV6A Flying
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Duckett <perfeng@3rivers.net>
Mark,
Wheather your doing paint work with a rattle can or a $700 HVLP gun you
still need to prep the work. As far as rattle cans go you need to make
sure it is well shaken, the temp of the product and the work is at least
68 degrees, and you apply enough product (coats) to allow proper flow.
Of course you need to make sure the work is clean, physically and
chemically.
I wouldn't recommend buying the cheapest stuff you can find. Look for
cans that have a fan type nozzle rahter than the standard conical you
see on most. There are several of these Fan Type spray cans out there
such as Martin-Seynour and others.
Just pull the cap off and check before you buy. As the old saying
goes...you get what you pay for!
As for blimishes...stop painting when you get them, fix the blimish
either by wiping it off, sanding or what ever you need before you
continue. you could finish coating the work and then sand and polish
but it's easier to fix the problem when it happens.
Jim Duckett N708JD
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| Subject: | Re: Paint Question |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kendel McCarley <kmmccarley@earthlink.net>
> As for blimishes...stop painting when you get them, fix the blimish
> either by wiping it off, sanding or what ever you need before you
> continue. you could finish coating the work and then sand and polish
> but it's easier to fix the problem when it happens.
Except for drips or runs. I find those a lot easier to fix after the
paint is dry by using the razor trick. Since the paint is thicker in
the run, it does take longer to dry hard where this will work, so give
it an extra day.
To use the razor, put a burr on it by drawing across a piece of
sandpaper at a 45 degree angle. I use 1000 grit since the razor ends up
with close to the same grit as the sandpaper used to form the burr.
Once the edge is prepped, turn the blade over and use it as a mini
scraper to draw off the extra paint. Once the paint surface is even,
use 1500 grit sandpaper across the grain of the draw marks and then hit
it with polish.
I'll be using the trick myself in a few days on the Jeep I just finished
painting this morning. Whoops! Got a little extra paint on one spot.
- Kendel McCarley
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| Subject: | Re: Air Chart Systems |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
>
>
>I'll probably break down & buy my own pretty soon, & try to find some
>erasable markers to mark my course in the book.
>
>
Sporty's has a nice set of erasable highlighters which I use for just
this purpose.
http://www.sportys.com/acb/showdetl.cfm?&did=19&product_id=6048
Jeff Point
RV-6
Milwaukee WI
>
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Duckett <perfeng@3rivers.net>
Okay Mike, I'll try to answer your questions as a custom painter for
well... since gas was 29.9.
Anway, Alodine and or acid washes are generally only used with new alcad
to help the substraint "bite to the base material (alcad). As several
others have said, we generally use a spray bottle or sponge to apply the
conversion coating. In our case we pressure wash every thing several
times whether we use alodine or not. Cleanliness is next to Godliness
or atleast helps with a nice finish!
Most acid baths and conversion coatings are such that when diluted with
wash water it's generally about the Ph of vinegar but we still use a
catch basin made out of visquine and check it with Ph paper, neutralize
it if need be, before it goes down the drain.
Our normal procedure for a "new " bird is wash, dry, measure for
lay-outs of stripes, color breaks, etc., disassemble as needed, wash,
dry, blow down, conversion coat, wash, dry, blow down, mask, wipe, tack,
prime, sand, unmask, wash, dry, blow down, mask, wipe, tack, base coat,
tack, clear coat, buff, unmask, wash, dry, blow down, polish, wash, dry,
blow down, assemble, final detail polish.
As you can see, lots of washing. Most contaminates come from the work
itself in most cases. A lot of the process above is not really needed on
new work but, its our normal routine on nearly everything that comes
into the shop.
As far as filling rivet lines, the biggest problem is getting the filler
to "bite" to the alcad. Thats why you rough up metal when you use
filler. The problem is you can't rough up close enough to the rivet
head to achieve total adhesion. Flexing, moisture, temp changes, fuel,
etc. eventually gets into this minute space and POP, the filler, as well
as the paint comes off. It can be done but, lots of time, lots of
weight, and lots and lots of sanding and priming!
If you have to have a slick skin you can always glue it on using Fusor
or other products that are designed for that purpose.
I personnally look at it this way, airplanes are meant to fly, not sit
on the ground. Build and paint your ship the way it pleases you...not
the critics at the fly-in!
Just my humble opinion!
Jim Duckett N708JD
Jimmie Dee's Custom Hot Rod Shop
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--> RV-List message posted by: "David Burton" <dburton@nwlink.com>
Lots of good information as always, Thanks Jim.
Just a small nit... Alodine is used to prevent filiform corrosion, a
particularly nasty form of corrosion that can travel under your painted
surface. The web has lots more information on this. With proper prep it's
not too big a worry, except that there is not cure other then replacement.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Duckett" <perfeng@3rivers.net>
Subject: RV-List: Painting
> --> RV-List message posted by: Jim Duckett <perfeng@3rivers.net>
>
> Okay Mike, I'll try to answer your questions as a custom painter for
> well... since gas was 29.9.
> Anway, Alodine and or acid washes are generally only used with new alcad
> to help the substraint "bite to the base material (alcad). As several
> others have said, we generally use a spray bottle or sponge to apply the
> conversion coating. In our case we pressure wash every thing several
> times whether we use alodine or not. Cleanliness is next to Godliness
> or atleast helps with a nice finish!
> Most acid baths and conversion coatings are such that when diluted with
> wash water it's generally about the Ph of vinegar but we still use a
> catch basin made out of visquine and check it with Ph paper, neutralize
> it if need be, before it goes down the drain.
> Our normal procedure for a "new " bird is wash, dry, measure for
> lay-outs of stripes, color breaks, etc., disassemble as needed, wash,
> dry, blow down, conversion coat, wash, dry, blow down, mask, wipe, tack,
> prime, sand, unmask, wash, dry, blow down, mask, wipe, tack, base coat,
> tack, clear coat, buff, unmask, wash, dry, blow down, polish, wash, dry,
> blow down, assemble, final detail polish.
> As you can see, lots of washing. Most contaminates come from the work
> itself in most cases. A lot of the process above is not really needed on
> new work but, its our normal routine on nearly everything that comes
> into the shop.
> As far as filling rivet lines, the biggest problem is getting the filler
> to "bite" to the alcad. Thats why you rough up metal when you use
> filler. The problem is you can't rough up close enough to the rivet
> head to achieve total adhesion. Flexing, moisture, temp changes, fuel,
> etc. eventually gets into this minute space and POP, the filler, as well
> as the paint comes off. It can be done but, lots of time, lots of
> weight, and lots and lots of sanding and priming!
> If you have to have a slick skin you can always glue it on using Fusor
> or other products that are designed for that purpose.
> I personnally look at it this way, airplanes are meant to fly, not sit
> on the ground. Build and paint your ship the way it pleases you...not
> the critics at the fly-in!
> Just my humble opinion!
> Jim Duckett N708JD
> Jimmie Dee's Custom Hot Rod Shop
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Air Chart Systems (Horse N Buggy) |
--> RV-List message posted by: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com>
>For you guys using and liking the AvCharts, how are you plotting a long
>track line that crosses several pages?
>Dick Sipp
Dick: You can't do it, but why would you. : - )
You are right it is not good for this point to point planning over long distance, that is why you would need a U.S. IFR/VFR Low Altitude Planning Chart http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/catalog/charts/planning/ela Once you have a general course across the US you can transfer it to the Av chart, however I don't use paper any more for long distance planning.
Why would you want to plot a line on paper? I now use my GPS (which I can take
with me into the FBO), desktop computer and flt planning software or web based
flt planning (DUAT, EAA, AOPA, Jeppesen). EAA members get free flight planning
and DUAT is free. FBO's usually have a computer to use. The other FBO's have
the famous chart on the wall. You know the one with the tack centered at the
home airport with a string.
I must admit simple (paper and pen) still works well. I am not saying not to have
paper, even the Airlines with their fancy flight management systems and whole
dispatch (flight planning / flight following) departments still use charts
and printed flight plans (which you still check-off way points and note position,
fuel and time). However for VFR in the US is not real critical but weather
and TRF's you really need to tap into the electronic super highway to get the
best picture. Things change fast.
The AvChart is great in the cockpit but not planning a long trip. The old paper
and pencil is going the way of E6B altogether. I use to plot a line, convert
true to mag course, than convert to mag heading and correct for wind: True course
+/- Mag Deviation = Mag Course +/- Compass Correction = Compass Heading
+/- (W)ind = Compass Steer. Now I just punch it into the computer, it gets the
weather and calculates all this, with time, fuel and vertical nav including
terrain clearance. Plus it will file the flight plan if I want.
Obviously if your trip is 1/2 way on the other side of the country you need a planning
chart or software to do a good job. With hand held GPS and PDA's with
data bases it is pretty easy to get the data you need with out paper, but I still
have paper as a back-up and is nice to have.
Since our RV's can do some good traveling, about 600-800 Sm in one hop, may be
1000mi with extra tanks, we have the ability to get almost real time weather in
the cockpit, including radar and surface depiction charts. Or you can get you
PDA out with its WiFi card and down load all the weather you need and file a
flight plan while sitting at the airport restaurant. Things have changed a lot
in the last decade or so.
I don't fly IFR or enough cross country in my RV to justify the near real time
cockpit weather service for me. If the weather is that marginal that I need near
real time weather I am going to landing.
***I am trying to get my PDA to work with a phone modem so I can dial up date and
down load all at info and carry it in the cockpit. I have a ipaq and the modem
but can't get it to work. Any ideas? Know of any good PDA flight planing /
weather getting software.***
Calling Flight Service to get a weather brief with words alone, especially in an
area your not familiar with, is never as good as a color picture. I remember
flying cross country and calling a local FS and they started talking "Well you
have a Low in the four corner area moving towards Towaoc with moisture from
the flat-lands producing the typical up slope flow........" This is a little
made-up but not by much. I had no idea what the hell he was talking about. You
be surprise how many 4-corners and tri-state areas there are. A laptop is nice
to have on a trip.
Picture an elder man with his Grandson on his knee "Well Sonny believe it or not
we used paper charts to navigate back in the day when we had things called airplanes,
before the invention of hover board."
Cheers George
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| Subject: | U-channel rubber molding |
--> RV-List message posted by: "jacklockamy" <jacklockamy@verizon.net>
Does u-channel rubber molding come in any color other than black? If so, could
you please provide a vendor website, phone number, etc.
Looking for some red and/or white rubber u-channel molding to install in various
locations. All I can locate is black colored. Guess the only other alternative
is to paint the black stuff, but not sure how that will look (or work for
that matter....).
Jack Lockamy
Camarillo, CA
RV-7A flying
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| Subject: | Re: U-channel rubber molding |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bobby Hester <bhester@hopkinsville.net>
jacklockamy wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "jacklockamy" <jacklockamy@verizon.net>
>
>Does u-channel rubber molding come in any color other than black? If so, could
you please provide a vendor website, phone number, etc.
>
>Looking for some red and/or white rubber u-channel molding to install in various
locations. All I can locate is black colored. Guess the only other alternative
is to paint the black stuff, but not sure how that will look (or work for
that matter....).
>
>Jack Lockamy
>Camarillo, CA
>RV-7A flying
>
>
>
I haven't looked but would bet you could find it at McMaster-Carr.
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Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY
Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/
RV7A Slowbuild wings-QB Fuse :-)
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| Subject: | Boone, IA RV Day |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph Koger" <rhkoger@fbx.com>
Join us Saturday June 18th for the annual RV Fly-in at Boone, IA (BNW)
View three RV-7s, RV-8, three RV-9s (2 quick builds) and three RV-10s under construction.
Presentations include: The Interior; Wiring Aircraft Systems; The Builder's Wife;
First Flight/Transition Training Observations; and Doing a Thorough Annual.
Coffee and donuts in the morning.
BBQ Pork Sandwiches at noon.
This is home town for Cleaveland Tool Company, DJ's interiors and Koger SunShade.
As in the past, for those that attend next Saturday's RV fly-in here in Boone,
I will sell my "Koger SunShades" at below wholesale price.
Come and enjoy the day and for those building, see what is going on in Boone, IA
" Mid USA RV Center". Three full time people building and helping others with
their RV's
Ralph Koger
Phone (515) 432-5714
rhkoger@fbx.com
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| Subject: | UP-DATE VAN'S TACH PROBLEMS tach sensorVan's Tach Doctor Needed |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Crosley" <rcrosley@adelphia.net>
TACH UPDATE---Went flying today, after I wrote the email below. As I was leaving
to come home --- I looked down and the TACH read ZERO. The curse of the tach.
Think I'll buy something else this time.
Rich Crosley
RV-8, N948RC minus tach
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Crosley
Subject: Re: RV-List: VAN'S TACH PROBLEMStach sensorVan's Tach Doctor Needed
I'll pass along my Van's tach experience, maybe it will help. HIS TROUBLESHOOTING
PARAGRAPH IS WRONG! I Installed gage and sender per directions, started engine,
needle sat on zero. I could see the prop goin' round and round, so I figured
the needle should move. Go to troubleshooting info. I checked power and
ground - good. Go to paragraph 2. Gage reads zero so paragraph 2 doesn't apply.
Paragraph 3 --- the gage does show zero - this is my paragraph. I do what
it says, I ground the wire from the sender and the gage still reads zero.
Gage is bad -- it says, I order a new gage, airplane sits on ground, install same,
get same results. Another bad gage? Unlikely-but possible Call Van's,
Ken says bad sender, I say nothing in your trouble shooting info points to the
sender, everything points to the gage. I say, look send me both a gage and
a sender. They do, I hook every thing up on the bench and run my little drill.
All gages good, first sender bad. I install good sender and any one of three
gages and the system works great. Bottom line, In my case the grounding of
the gage never sent the needle full scale on any gage. The troubleshooting
instructions lead me the wrong direction, cost me two weeks waiting for my first
flight. I told Van's - but I bet the paperwork reads the same. Now here is
my little grip with Van's --- Their typical response is "4000 of these are flying
so it's OK, they all figured it out" Inference being --What's wrong with
you! I pointed out a few drawing screwups along the way and that was the general
response I got. Now maybe I'm spoiled, I did build a Christen Eagle a
few years ago. But, I think in many instances builders build good airplanes
in spit of Van's drawings, not because of them. Ken was very helpful, as always
and sympathized with my plight, but I'll bet the directions didn't change.
Rich Crosley
RV-8, N948RC
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| Subject: | Alternate Static Valve |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mark Taylor" <mtaylo17@msn.com>
Listers,
Does anybody know where I can get me one off these? I've searched high and
low on the web and found not a lot. There was one hit to Safair, but they're
'coming soon'. I'd like something like the type found in Cessnas where you
can pull the big red knob.
Thanks for anybody's help!
Mark.
www.4sierratango.com
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| Subject: | Alternate Static Valve |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I used a quick drain fuel valve. The type you can twist and lock open. Not
glamorous, but it works fine.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Taylor
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 10:45 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Alternate Static Valve
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Mark Taylor" <mtaylo17@msn.com>
>
> Listers,
>
> Does anybody know where I can get me one off these? I've
> searched high and low on the web and found not a lot. There
> was one hit to Safair, but they're 'coming soon'. I'd like
> something like the type found in Cessnas where you can pull
> the big red knob.
>
> Thanks for anybody's help!
>
> Mark.
> www.4sierratango.com
>
>
> Photoshare, and much much more:
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Rudder Questions: bending the skin and torquing the rod ends |
--> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
Hi all,
I finished riveting in the rudder stiffeners today. Built a brake and tried
bending. I was scratching my head about a couple of details:
1. Do you put the fold right in the crotch of the brake or a little ways out?
My bend is smooth and pretty consistent but I was wondering about the radius
of the bend and how you control it. The instructions say that the radius is
called out on the plans. Must be very fine print, because I could not find it.
2. I did not bend the skin to the point that it closes on the spar with no
tension. Should I bend some more until it just sits at spar width? Right now
it pulls down easily and with everything clecoed together, it looks pretty
straight.
3. When it is time to install the rod-ends that make the hinge, you put on a
jam nut and then screw them into the platenut to get the correct length. The
jam nut goes down to keep it from moving. How tight do you tighten the jam
nut? My torque wrench is a socket and so a am guessing you can't use an actual
torque specification. Thoughts?
Regards,
Michael Wynn
RV-8, Empennage
San Ramon, California
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| Subject: | Re: Alternate Static Valve |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
Mark,
The advice I got some time ago was a: FFV03 valve from Aircraft Spruce.
Never got one yet but still plan to.
Tim Bryan
RV-6
-------Original Message-------
From: Mark Taylor
Subject: RV-List: Alternate Static Valve
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mark Taylor" <mtaylo17@msn.com>
Listers,
Does anybody know where I can get me one off these? I've searched high and
low on the web and found not a lot. There was one hit to Safair, but they're
'coming soon'. I'd like something like the type found in Cessnas where you
can pull the big red knob.
Thanks for anybody's help!
Mark.
www.4sierratango.com
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| Subject: | Re: FOR SALE: Turn Coordinator |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Jackson" <jayeandscott@telus.net>
A long shot for sure, but is it sold?
Mine just crapped out from the night in the salt mud....
Scott in Vancouver
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Subject: RV-List: FOR SALE: Turn Coordinator
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> FOR SALE:
> Mid-Continent T100-7 turn coordinator + AMP TC connector
> Purchased brand new from Chief Aircraft in 2003.
> Retails for $509 + $19 for the connector.
> In perfect working order, has worked flawlessly for 400+ hours.
>
> Will sell for $375 including the already-wired TC connector.
>
> Photo here:
> http://chiefaircraft.com/Aircraft/FlightInstruments/Images/MDCT_T100-7.jpg
>
> Reason for selling: upgrading my Digitrak to a Pictorial Pilot,
> consolidating the two instruments.
>
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
>
>
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