RV-List Digest Archive

Thu 06/16/05


Total Messages Posted: 27



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:33 AM - Re: Humor? You make the call. :-) (Chuck Jensen)
     2. 04:57 AM - Re: Fw: Wheel fairings installation (Tom & Cathy Ervin)
     3. 05:44 AM - Re: Priming (Charlie Kuss)
     4. 07:56 AM - Re: Humor? You make the call. :-) (Doug Rozendaal)
     5. 08:57 AM - Black Liquid glue/sealer (Mickey Coggins)
     6. 09:29 AM - Re: Black Liquid glue/sealer (Glaeser, Dennis A)
     7. 09:43 AM - Re: Black Liquid glue/sealer (Terry Watson)
     8. 09:49 AM - Re: Black Liquid glue/sealer (Larry Pardue)
     9. 10:03 AM - Re: Black Liquid glue/sealer (Jerry Grimmonpre)
    10. 10:39 AM - P-mags (sportav8r@aol.com)
    11. 10:50 AM - Re: Black Liquid glue/sealer (Mickey Coggins)
    12. 10:59 AM - Re: Black Liquid glue/sealer (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
    13. 10:59 AM - Re: Black Liquid glue/sealer (Mickey Coggins)
    14. 11:47 AM - emp fairing closeup (Geoff Evans)
    15. 11:47 AM - Re: Black Liquid glue/sealer (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
    16. 12:26 PM - Re: emp fairing closeup (Phil Birkelbach)
    17. 01:23 PM - Re: Black Liquid glue/sealer (Dan Krueger)
    18. 02:34 PM - Re: Black Liquid glue/sealer (Mickey Coggins)
    19. 02:52 PM - Re: ignition switch (Richard Reynolds)
    20. 03:19 PM - Re: Black Liquid glue/sealer (Paul Trotter)
    21. 05:58 PM - Re: Fw: Wheel fairings installation (Dale Ensing)
    22. 06:01 PM - Re: Fw: Wheel fairings installation (Dale Ensing)
    23. 08:07 PM - Re: Fw: Wheel fairings installation (Ron Lee)
    24. 08:23 PM - Re: Fw: Wheel fairings installation (LARRY ADAMSON)
    25. 08:52 PM - Re: Fw: Wheel fairings installation (Bill VonDane)
    26. 09:41 PM - Re: Fw: Wheel fairings installation (Tom & Cathy Ervin)
    27. 09:59 PM - Re: Fw: Wheel fairings installation (Dan Checkoway)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:33:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Humor? You make the call. :-)
    From: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com> Nope, it comes from practice. Chuck Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mark Grieve Subject: Re: RV-List: Humor? You make the call. :-) --> RV-List message posted by: Mark Grieve <mark@macomb.com> Tom, A good friend of mine was an F-14 pilot with the call sign of Gummy. His last name in real life is Guibault, pronounced Geebo. I really enjoy the stories of where these names come from. He talks of Tuba, Tonto and many others. There was "Insufferable butt head" but I'm sure that was shortened. Jim is one of the best story tellers I have ever met. Does that come specifically from flying really fast, cool planes or can any pilot acquire this skill? Do not archive Mark Tom Gummo wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Tom Gummo" <T.gummo@verizon.net> > > >With so many illegal aliens here in California, (they can't serve on jury duty, but they take up space and time, don't get me started) I get a jury summons at least once a year. If I get selected, I am normally excused by the defense lawyer for one reason or the other. However yesterday, no such luck. > > >During the questioning period, the D.A. asked each of us to state our names, jobs, and if we knew any police officers. > > >I stated my name, Tom Gummo, that I was a retired Air Force Pilot and was currently teaching Chemistry at the local college. I then said that I knew several police officers as they helped me build my plane (KABONG is one). I throw in the military officer as it seems that defense lawyers don't like that in the jury pool. > > >1. The judge stopped the D.A. and asked if I knew anything about my last name. I told him that it was the name of the fifth Marx brother (if you are young - look them up on the Internet). > >2. He then asked what I flew. I told them about the F-4G and the Wild Weasels. > >3. The judge then asked why I built my own plane. Of course, the great characteristics of the RV series were explained. > >4. The D.A. then stated that most pilots had a call-sign and wanted to know mine. "GummiBear" was my reply - with a body style (less than thin) and a last name of Gummo - the call-sign was a natural and remained with me for the whole twenty years. > >5. He then wanted to know about any combat I flew. Gulf War I (1990-1991) > > >So in the middle of a criminal trial, the transcript will show that juror #4, has the last name of a Marx brother, built and flies a Harmon Rocket, was called "GummiBear", and flew in the Gulf War. > > >WTFO > > >Tom "GummiBear" Gummo >Wild Weasel #1573 > >http://mysite.verizon.net/t.gummo/index.html > > >Apple Valley, CA >Harmon Rocket-II > >do not archive > > > >


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    Time: 04:57:00 AM PST US
    From: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net>
    Subject: Re: Fw: Wheel fairings installation
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net> Dale, I used the engine hoist method on my 6-A .....worked great! Tom in Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: Fw: Wheel fairings installation > --> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net> > > I did this leveling process using an engine hoist, strapping it to the > engine mount and lifting the front wheels off the ground. I have a > taildragger. However, should not be too difficult if you have a nose > wheeler if you have something you can lift the front up with. An overhead > garage joist should work as well. The engine mount worked well for me. > > Indiana Larry, RV7 Tip Up It Flies > > "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers > that it can bribe the public with the public's own money." > > Alexis de Toqueville > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RV-List: Fw: Wheel fairings installation > > >> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <dwensing@aol.com> >> To: <densing@carolina.rr.com> >> Subject: Fwd: Wheel fairings installation >> >> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: DWENSING >>> To: rv-list@matronics.com >>> Sent: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 09:49:21 -0400 >>> Subject: Wheel fairings installation >>> >>> RV-6A/7A builders........... >>> Preparing to install the wheel fairings on my flying RV-6A. Now >>> learned that the procedure requires leveling the airplane on jacks. I >>> should have done it back when the fuse was leveled for drilling the >>> wings rear spars. Current builders take note!! >>> >>> Have been thinking about a way to not have to put the airplane back on >>> jacks. Especially to get it exactly level with the wheels just touching >>> the floor. >>> Would like comments on an idea: >>> Have considered using a "Smart Level" to duplicate the angle of the >>> fuselage deck to get the correct front/ back angle on the wheel fairing >>> while the airplane is setting on the gear. The in/out angle would be >>> determined by aligning the wheel fairing with the tread on the tire. Is >>> there a fatal flaw in this approach? Has anybody done something like >>> this? Or, have another idea to avoid the need to level it on jacks? >>> Dale Ensing >>> RV6A N118DE >>> >>> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 05:44:27 AM PST US
    From: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Re: Priming
    --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net> Rick, I agree with Jim. Your Mil Spec epoxy primers will stop 7 out of the 8 possible types of corrosion of aluminum. Guess which one the primer doesn't protect against? Right, Filiform corrosion. Alodine prevents 4 types of corrosion, including Filiform (which is the nastiest type). Alodine also improves the adhesion of your primer and paint to the aluminum. You need to do both to truly prevent corrosion. Charlie Kuss >--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net> > >Hi Rick, > >I was told by my paint supplier and I also read it in my Vans manual, circa >1996. >In that humid climate I would definitely use the alodine. The claim is that >alodine treatment adds some degree of protection against Filform (sp) >corrosion. >"Filform" corrosion invades at edges or scratches and creeps under whatever >protective coating, primer, paint or sealant is in place. Once it gets a >good hold skin ,rib or part replacement is usually the only recourse. > >Ok everybody let the primer wars begin.{[;-) > >Jim in Kelowna > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Richard Leach" <papadaddyo@verizon.net> >To: "RV list" <rv-list@matronics.com>; ><owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> >Subject: RV-List: Priming > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Leach" <papadaddyo@verizon.net> > > > > I know I asked earlier about mixing primer and now that I am really > > ready to do some priming I have a question for the veterans. I have > > alumiprep 33 as well as MEK. My plan was to use the alumiprep and then > > akzo 2 part epoxy for the primer. I know that many use alodine. I know > > this is good and it looks cool but is it necessary to use both or will > > the akzo be enough. I live in Florida and well, you know the weather. > > > > Rick > > 40397 > > N512RM - reserved > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:56:09 AM PST US
    From: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com>
    Subject: Re: Humor? You make the call. :-)
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Rozendaal" <dougr@petroblend.com> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com> > > Nope, it comes from practice. > > Chuck > > Do Not Archive And consuming obscene amounts of beer! Tailwinds, Doug Rozendaal


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    Time: 08:57:42 AM PST US
    From: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
    Subject: Black Liquid glue/sealer
    --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> Hi, I'm looking for something that may not exist, but thought I'd check here. I need a sealer or glue that will flow pretty well when wet, but will dry kind of like hard rubber. My fallback is to mix up some epoxy and try to put some pigment in it, but I'd prefer it if the result had just a bit of flexibility. Does anyone know if such a product exists, and where I can buy it? Thanks, Mickey -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 Canopy


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    Time: 09:29:51 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Black Liquid glue/sealer
    From: "Glaeser, Dennis A" <dennis.glaeser@eds.com>
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Glaeser, Dennis A" <dennis.glaeser@eds.com> Mickey, My suggestions would be: Proseal Sikaflex (spelling? - the stuff for glueing canopies) - may be too hard? RTV (not hard enough?) What are you trying to glue/seal? (Only tell me if you don't have to kill me :-) Dennis Glaeser RV7A Empennage ---------------------- Hi, I'm looking for something that may not exist, but thought I'd check here. I need a sealer or glue that will flow pretty well when wet, but will dry kind of like hard rubber. My fallback is to mix up some epoxy and try to put some pigment in it, but I'd prefer it if the result had just a bit of flexibility. Does anyone know if such a product exists, and where I can buy it? Thanks, Mickey ---------------------


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    Time: 09:43:49 AM PST US
    From: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
    Subject: Black Liquid glue/sealer
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com> Have you considered thinning some fuel tank sealant? Terry -> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> Hi, I'm looking for something that may not exist, but thought I'd check here. I need a sealer or glue that will flow pretty well when wet, but will dry kind of like hard rubber. My fallback is to mix up some epoxy and try to put some pigment in it, but I'd prefer it if the result had just a bit of flexibility. Does anyone know if such a product exists, and where I can buy it? Thanks, Mickey


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    Time: 09:49:30 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Pardue" <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com>
    Subject: Re: Black Liquid glue/sealer
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Pardue" <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com> Sure sounds a lot like Proseal and the equivalents. Widely available. > --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> > > Hi, > > I'm looking for something that may not exist, but > thought I'd check here. I need a sealer or glue > that will flow pretty well when wet, but will > dry kind of like hard rubber. Larry Pardue Carlsbad, NM RV-6 N441LP Flying http://n5lp.net


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    Time: 10:03:06 AM PST US
    From: "Jerry Grimmonpre" <jerry@mc.net>
    Subject: Re: Black Liquid glue/sealer
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" <jerry@mc.net> What do you want to accomplish Mickey? You'll get more offers of help with that info laid on the list ... Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com> Subject: RE: RV-List: Black Liquid glue/sealer > --> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com> > > Have you considered thinning some fuel tank sealant? > > Terry > > > -> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> > > Hi, > > I'm looking for something that may not exist, but > thought I'd check here. I need a sealer or glue > that will flow pretty well when wet, but will > dry kind of like hard rubber. My fallback is > to mix up some epoxy and try to put some pigment > in it, but I'd prefer it if the result had just > a bit of flexibility. Does anyone know if such a > product exists, and where I can buy it? > > Thanks, > Mickey > > >


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    Time: 10:39:24 AM PST US
    From: sportav8r@aol.com
    Subject: P-mags
    --> RV-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com My p-mags are filed in the system! (UPS's system, that is)... when they arrive and I have a chance to bolt 'em on, I'll follow with a progress report. I've been waiting on these since February, but hopefully this will be worth the wait. -Stormy replacing dual Slicks at ~510 hrs TT.


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    Time: 10:50:36 AM PST US
    From: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
    Subject: Re: Black Liquid glue/sealer
    --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> Hi Terry, That's a good idea, and is another possibility. I think that would be better than using something like West System epoxy, since it would be more flexible. Of course, if I can find it in black it would better! Mickey Terry Watson wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com> > > Have you considered thinning some fuel tank sealant? > > Terry > > > -> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> > > Hi, > > I'm looking for something that may not exist, but > thought I'd check here. I need a sealer or glue > that will flow pretty well when wet, but will > dry kind of like hard rubber. My fallback is > to mix up some epoxy and try to put some pigment > in it, but I'd prefer it if the result had just > a bit of flexibility. Does anyone know if such a > product exists, and where I can buy it? > > Thanks, > Mickey > -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 Canopy


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    Time: 10:59:05 AM PST US
    From: Fiveonepw@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Black Liquid glue/sealer
    --> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com In a message dated 6/16/05 10:59:03 AM Central Daylight Time, mick-matronics@rv8.ch writes: > I need a sealer or glue > that will flow pretty well when wet, but will > dry kind of like hard rubber. >>>> Might want to look at Loctite 380, Black Max instant adhesive. see: http://www.mcmaster.com/ Type " 3173 " in the "Find" window in the left-hand column to load that page #. What's the application? Mark Phillips


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    Time: 10:59:11 AM PST US
    From: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
    Subject: Re: Black Liquid glue/sealer
    --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> Hi Jerry, OK, I'll come clean. Here's a photo: http://rv8.ch/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=photos&id=DSC03025 I'm trying to fill in the gap between the canopy and the side rail. I've already glued it nicely with Sikaflex, but I didn't make the fillet very smooth. Now I'm looking for a way to fix this, otherwise I'll be constantly looking at some funky Sikaflex while sitting in my cockpit making airplane noises. Thanks for any hints! Mickey Jerry Grimmonpre wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" <jerry@mc.net> > > What do you want to accomplish Mickey? You'll get more offers of help with > that info laid on the list ... > Jerry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RE: RV-List: Black Liquid glue/sealer > > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com> >> >>Have you considered thinning some fuel tank sealant? >> >>Terry >> >> >>-> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> >> >>Hi, >> >>I'm looking for something that may not exist, but >>thought I'd check here. I need a sealer or glue >>that will flow pretty well when wet, but will >>dry kind of like hard rubber. My fallback is >>to mix up some epoxy and try to put some pigment >>in it, but I'd prefer it if the result had just >>a bit of flexibility. Does anyone know if such a >>product exists, and where I can buy it? >> >>Thanks, >>Mickey >> -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 Canopy


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    Time: 11:47:19 AM PST US
    From: Geoff Evans <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com>
    Subject: emp fairing closeup
    --> RV-List message posted by: Geoff Evans <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com> Does anyone have a detailed, close-up picture that shows the leading edges of the upper (fiberglass) empennage fairing and the lower (aluminum) fairing where they come together at the leading edge of the HS? Mine fit pretty well, but they still need a little work. I'm trying to get an idea of what this intersection is supposed to look like in its completed and final state. Thanks. -Geoff RV-8 QB __________________________________ Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html


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    Time: 11:47:19 AM PST US
    From: Fiveonepw@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Black Liquid glue/sealer
    --> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com In a message dated 6/16/05 12:51:49 PM Central Daylight Time, mick-matronics@rv8.ch writes: > Of course, if I > can find it in black it would better! >>>> I did some digging around on the Net and found some black pigment for epoxy from a marine supply house somewhere up around NY or Conn- don't recall the name or find the receipt, but it worked great for around the front of the canopy. Google "epoxy tint marine" and you should be able to find it. It was available in several colors... Worked really well. Mark Phillips


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    Time: 12:26:31 PM PST US
    From: Phil Birkelbach <phil@petrasoft.net>
    Subject: Re: emp fairing closeup
    --> RV-List message posted by: Phil Birkelbach <phil@petrasoft.net> These are not the best close-ups but you may be able to see what I did... http://www.myrv7.com/viewimage.php?pictureid=314 http://www.myrv7.com/viewimage.php?pictureid=315 Godspeed, Phil Birkelbach - Houston Texas RV-7 N727WB - Finishing Up http://www.myrv7.com Geoff Evans wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Geoff Evans <hellothaimassage@yahoo.com> > >Does anyone have a detailed, close-up picture that shows the leading edges of >the upper (fiberglass) empennage fairing and the lower (aluminum) fairing >where they come together at the leading edge of the HS? > >Mine fit pretty well, but they still need a little work. I'm trying to get an >idea of what this intersection is supposed to look like in its completed and >final state. > >Thanks. >-Geoff > >RV-8 QB > > > >__________________________________ >Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: >http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html > > > >


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    Time: 01:23:29 PM PST US
    From: Dan Krueger <pndkrueg@mchsi.com>
    Subject: Re: Black Liquid glue/sealer
    --> RV-List message posted by: Dan Krueger <pndkrueg@mchsi.com> > I need a sealer or glue > that will flow pretty well when wet, but will > dry kind of like hard rubber. The product you want is NP-1. Fantastic glue and caulk. Found at GOOD hardware stores and building material stores. I glued my air ducts to the fuselage with it and the pieces will tear before the NP-1 gives. At the shop we had two small squares of alum fastened together with it - 3/16 between pieces for testing. The guys never did tear them apart. Dan Krueger RV6A flying


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    Time: 02:34:56 PM PST US
    From: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
    Subject: Re: Black Liquid glue/sealer
    --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> > I did some digging around on the Net and found some black pigment for epoxy > from a marine supply house somewhere up around NY or Conn- don't recall the > name or find the receipt, but it worked great for around the front of the canopy. > Google "epoxy tint marine" and you should be able to find it. It was > available in several colors... Worked really well. Does anyone know where I can get some black proseal, in the "Class A" (very liquid) version? Thanks, Mickey -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 Canopy


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    Time: 02:52:51 PM PST US
    From: Richard Reynolds <rvreynolds@macs.net>
    Subject: Re: ignition switch
    --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Reynolds <rvreynolds@macs.net> Electrically speaking, AeroElectric Figure Z-27 shows how to wire one and what happens when the key is turned. Richard Reynolds Norfolk, VA RV-6A, N841RV On Jun 10, 2005, at 7:07 PM, Bill VonDane wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com> > > does anyone have a diagram of the internal working of a keyed > ignition switch? > > Thanks! > > -Bill > >


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    Time: 03:19:18 PM PST US
    From: Paul Trotter <ptrotter@acm.org>
    Subject: Re: Black Liquid glue/sealer
    --> RV-List message posted by: Paul Trotter <ptrotter@acm.org> Mickey, You can get class A ProSeal (or ChemSeal) from several distributors over here. See my article on Tank Sealant on Doug Reeves site in the articles section, it gives the info on a couple of distributors. However, you can thin the class B sealant with toluene. That is all they do to make class A sealant.. You can add up to 15% toluene by weight without changing the properties of the sealant. I believe that Class A has about 7% toluene added to get that consistency. I expect that the color of the tank sealant will be more grey than the color of your Sikaflex however. If you go the epoxy route, West System has a graphite powder (#423) than can be used to create a black result. Epoxy will cure much harder, with no flexibility however, which may not work as well. Good luck, Paul Trotter RV-8 82080 Fuselage Kit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mickey Coggins" <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> Subject: Re: RV-List: Black Liquid glue/sealer > --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> > > > I did some digging around on the Net and found some black pigment for epoxy > > from a marine supply house somewhere up around NY or Conn- don't recall the > > name or find the receipt, but it worked great for around the front of the canopy. > > Google "epoxy tint marine" and you should be able to find it. It was > > available in several colors... Worked really well. > > Does anyone know where I can get some black proseal, in > the "Class A" (very liquid) version? > > Thanks, > Mickey > > -- > Mickey Coggins > http://www.rv8.ch/ > #82007 Canopy > >


    Message 21


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    Time: 05:58:30 PM PST US
    From: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Fw: Wheel fairings installation
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com> Thanks Larry for the info on leveling the plane. However, on the 6a the mains must be raised (a lot) to get the top longeron level. I had considered using the engine hoist with a sling around the rear fuse but that puts a lot of the weight on the front gear. Not sure I like that. Anybody else out there with a successful method for the trike geared? Dale Ensing do not archive


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    Time: 06:01:57 PM PST US
    From: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Fw: Wheel fairings installation
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com> Tom, did you lift the 6A rear fuse just in front of the empannage to get it level? Any concerns about the weight on the front gear? Dale Ensing


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    Time: 08:07:37 PM PST US
    From: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
    Subject: Re: Fw: Wheel fairings installation
    --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net> Any reason why you can't determine the longeron angle when on the mains and nose gear and then apply that same angle during the wheel pant installation? Ron Lee


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    Time: 08:23:13 PM PST US
    From: "LARRY ADAMSON" <rvhi03@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Fw: Wheel fairings installation
    --> RV-List message posted by: "LARRY ADAMSON" <rvhi03@msn.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Ensing Subject: Re: RV-List: Fw: Wheel fairings installation --> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" densing@carolina.rr.com You could always push the tri-gear onto some small wooden ramps, to raise the mains Thanks Larry for the info on leveling the plane. However, on the 6a the mains must be raised (a lot) to get the top longeron level. I had considered using the engine hoist with a sling around the rear fuse but that puts a lot of the weight on the front gear. Not sure I like that. Anybody else out there with a successful method for the trike geared? Dale Ensing do not archive


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    Time: 08:52:18 PM PST US
    From: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
    Subject: Re: Fw: Wheel fairings installation
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com> Make some jack points for the tie downs in the wings and jack it up... This is what I did with my -8A... I can take photos of the jack points I made and the jacks I use if you need them... -Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "LARRY ADAMSON" <rvhi03@msn.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Fw: Wheel fairings installation --> RV-List message posted by: "LARRY ADAMSON" <rvhi03@msn.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Ensing Subject: Re: RV-List: Fw: Wheel fairings installation --> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" densing@carolina.rr.com You could always push the tri-gear onto some small wooden ramps, to raise the mains Thanks Larry for the info on leveling the plane. However, on the 6a the mains must be raised (a lot) to get the top longeron level. I had considered using the engine hoist with a sling around the rear fuse but that puts a lot of the weight on the front gear. Not sure I like that. Anybody else out there with a successful method for the trike geared? Dale Ensing do not archive


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    Time: 09:41:14 PM PST US
    From: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net>
    Subject: Re: Fw: Wheel fairings installation
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Tom & Cathy Ervin" <tcervin@valkyrie.net> Dale, I used a nylon triple strap type hanger. 2 straps on the engine mount and 1 forward to the engine hoist bracket in the center of the engine case. This method applies very little stress to the engine case but allows for a flying profile without propping the fuselage and possible damage......big dent in front of the empennage. Tom in Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com> Subject: Re: RV-List: Fw: Wheel fairings installation > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com> > > Tom, did you lift the 6A rear fuse just in front of the empannage to get > it > level? Any concerns about the weight on the front gear? > Dale Ensing > > >


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    Time: 09:59:24 PM PST US
    From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
    Subject: Re: Fw: Wheel fairings installation
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> > Any reason why you can't determine the longeron angle when on the mains > and nose gear and then apply that same angle during the wheel pant > installation? Just depends on whether you care about speed & economy. If all you care about is how it looks on the ground, and you don't mind sacrificing "free speed," then rig 'em however's convenient to you. To optimize low drag, you really gotta rig your wheel pants in trail with the gear completely unloaded...simulating the in-flight condition. )_( Dan RV-7 N714D (514 hours) http://www.rvproject.com




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