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1. 01:49 AM - Just names and no faces (Stan Jones)
2. 02:53 AM - Re: Fuel vapors in cockpit (Doug Gray)
3. 03:24 AM - Re: Fuel Vapors in Cockpit (Russell Daves)
4. 05:03 AM - Items for sale Part II (rveighta)
5. 05:31 AM - Re: Just names and no faces (LarryRobertHelming)
6. 05:51 AM - First Flight N863JJ (John Mcmahon)
7. 06:14 AM - Re: Just names and no faces (Bob Collins)
8. 06:36 AM - Re: First Flight N863JJ (Kevin Williams)
9. 06:46 AM - Re: Cowl Camlocs, Brakeline brackets (John Mcmahon)
10. 06:49 AM - Fond Du Lac socializing ???? (Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club)
11. 07:01 AM - Re: First Flight N863JJ (Sam Buchanan)
12. 07:06 AM - Re: bakerocb@cox.net (DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com)
13. 07:57 AM - Re: First Flight N863JJ (Tim Bryan)
14. 08:16 AM - Fw: Fw: Wheel fairings installation (Dale Ensing)
15. 08:28 AM - Re: First Flight N863JJ (Vanremog@aol.com)
16. 08:44 AM - RV6 Whelen Stobes (Tony Marshall)
17. 08:48 AM - Re: Bigger tires for 6A on grass? ()
18. 08:56 AM - Re: RV6 Whelen Stobes (linn walters)
19. 09:06 AM - Re: Re: Bigger tires for 6A on grass? (Paul Trotter)
20. 09:14 AM - Re: First Flight N863JJ (Mickey Coggins)
21. 09:26 AM - Re: Cowl Camlocs, Brakeline brackets (Jeff Point)
22. 10:21 AM - Re: Fuel vapors in cockpit (HCRV6@aol.com)
23. 10:24 AM - Re: RV6 Whelen Stobes (GMC)
24. 10:35 AM - Re: First Flight N863JJ (HCRV6@aol.com)
25. 10:57 AM - Re: Class G ()
26. 12:29 PM - Re: Fuel vapors in cockpit (Jeff Dowling)
27. 12:40 PM - Re: Fuel vapors in cockpitFuel vapors in cockpit (al.herron@Aerojet.com (Herron, Al))
28. 12:57 PM - Low oil pressure event (Rick Galati)
29. 02:08 PM - Re: Re: Bigger tires for 6A on grass? (Charlie England)
30. 02:48 PM - Re: Low oil pressure event (Vincent Osburn)
31. 02:52 PM - Re: Just names and no faces (cecilth@juno.com)
32. 03:00 PM - Re: Re: Bigger tires for 6A on grass? (Kyle Boatright)
33. 03:01 PM - Re: Low oil pressure event (Kyle Boatright)
34. 03:14 PM - Re: Low oil pressure event (DonVS)
35. 03:16 PM - Re: RV-4 air vent (Dean Pichon)
36. 03:49 PM - Re: RV-4 air vent (Ron Lee)
37. 04:12 PM - Re: RV-4 air vent (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
38. 05:09 PM - Re: Re: Bigger tires for 6A on grass? (Alex Peterson)
39. 06:42 PM - Dynon (Sherri & Paul Richardson)
40. 06:54 PM - Re: Fuel vapors in cockpit (Bobby Hester)
41. 07:17 PM - Re: Dynon (Bobby Hester)
42. 07:22 PM - Re: Dynon (Dan Checkoway)
43. 09:27 PM - Re: Low oil pressure event (GMC)
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| Subject: | Just names and no faces |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stan Jones" <stan.jones@xtra.co.nz>
It is only about a month til OshKosh, and I know a lot of you will be there.
I have been on this list for about three years, and have read all the words,
and
digested the opinions. I will be there for the third time, all the way from
New Zealand,
and I would realy enjoy putting a face to all the names
Would it not be a good idea to have a bit of a get together, to have a drink
perhaps
something to eat, and tell a lot of lies.
Perhaps someone with a bit of local knowledge could take this up, and
suggest a venue.
There are lots of eating places to consider, or we could even stoop to Kelly
s Bar.
Is there any enthusiasm for this idea ?
Stan Jones
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel vapors in cockpit |
--> RV-List message posted by: Doug Gray <dgra1233@bigpond.net.au>
Your vent tubes do continue all the way up to the fuselage longeron (or higher)
before going back
down to the ports dont they? If they don't an aggressive sideslip or descent
will cause fuel to
spill out of the vents.
Doug Gray
Jeff Dowling wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
>
> I cant find a fuel leak. I generally only smell fuel when Im flying aggressively
or in the bumps. It happens with either tank selected. I checked all of
the connections and cant find any signs of the telltale blue fuel. It seems
to be the worst when Im in a steep climb. I cant tell if its a change in airflow
or a change in where the fuel is sitting. Hmmmmm.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Vapors in Cockpit |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Russell Daves" <dav1111@cox.net>
I had a similiar problem with my RV-6A. I found that the rudder cables on both
sides had sawed through the vent lines inside the cockpit.
The first thing to do is to get some light under the panel and look very carefully
at the location where the rudder cables come by the fuel vent lines. I found
the problem only after I had removed one tank and put an air pressue hose
on the vent line connection from the tank and covered the vent line exit underneat
the fuselage. My buddy who was inside the cockpit could then hear the air
coming through where the rudder cable had cut the vent line on that side and
was able to put his finger over the hole and feel the air coming out. Visual
inspection on the other side showed the same problem.
We then cut out the damaged portion of the vent lines and installed a splice, and
then fabricated a bracket to hold the rudder cable away from the vent lines
in the future.
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| Subject: | Items for sale Part II |
--> RV-List message posted by: rveighta <rveighta@earthlink.net>
To those of you inquiring about my 20K headset, it along with the three lever quadrant,
have been sold.
I have done a little more research on the Whelen strobe system and find that you
can buy the same
thing from Van's for $851 (it's $955 at ACS) - accordingly I'm reducing the price
to $725, OBO.
Walt Shipley
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| Subject: | Re: Just names and no faces |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
I did just this same thing about 3 years ago. I think 6 showed up at the
prescribed time. Might be fetter, I think, to get a readable name badge and
just walk around and let others see you and you them (if they have a name
badge on). On the other hand, meeting at high noon at the theater in the
woods would work. How about Thursday at high noon? Going to Van's dinner
is another good one to attend.
Indiana Larry, RV7 Tip Up It Flies 36 hrs out of 40 testing is done.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stan Jones" <stan.jones@xtra.co.nz>
Subject: RV-List: Just names and no faces
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stan Jones" <stan.jones@xtra.co.nz>
>
> It is only about a month til OshKosh, and I know a lot of you will be
> there.
> I have been on this list for about three years, and have read all the
> words,
> and
> digested the opinions. I will be there for the third time, all the way
> from
> New Zealand,
> and I would realy enjoy putting a face to all the names
> Would it not be a good idea to have a bit of a get together, to have a
> drink
> perhaps
> something to eat, and tell a lot of lies.
> Perhaps someone with a bit of local knowledge could take this up, and
> suggest a venue.
> There are lots of eating places to consider, or we could even stoop to
> Kelly
> s Bar.
> Is there any enthusiasm for this idea ?
> Stan Jones
>
>
>
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"JIMMY EDWARDS" <edwardsrv6@tds.net>,
"DOUG ESHELMAN" <desh@comcast.net>, "Tom Eyssen" <teyssen@comcast.net>,
"Dave Hudgins" <d.hudgins@insightbb.com>,
"Janet" <janet.piper@Vanderbilt.Edu>,
"CHUCK JENKJINS" <cjenkins454@netzero.net>, <KECoats@aol.com>,
"BILL LOGUE" <wrlogue@att.net>, "Mancini" <mancin2@optonline.net>,
"Joe Mckervey" <mckervey@edge.net>,
"JOHN MILLER" <jamiller@infionline.net>,
"ALLEN MOLLEYHORN" <allanm@bellsouth.net>,
"Piper, Gary" <gary.piper@Vanderbilt.Edu>, <rv6-list@matronics.com>,
"EDD \(2003\) TECK" <etohio@iwon.com>, "TOBY" <airtoby@comcast.net>,
"Tommy Walker" <twsurveyor@msn.com>,
"Winans, Dave W" <Dave.Winans@getronics.com>,
"JOHN WOODALL" <john.woodall@tnnash.ang.af.mil>
| Subject: | First Flight N863JJ |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Mcmahon" <rv6@earthlink.net>
First flight of Kit #22411 RV6 at Portland,Tn (1M5) on the 22nd at 0732..This
was a 13 year project,the old
slow kit ..Thanks to the RV list,Gary V, and Sam B's Web site..I used the EAA
first flight guide lines,which
is a must do if you can...Flight time was only 20 min,but SWEET...Mistakes that
I made!!!
1Check everything 3 times in the Eng,oil line,gas lines,etc...
2Hart C/S got ahead of me when it un/loaded on take off(2780) WHEW
After take off,stayed in the pattern and trim out and say to myself (WOW)...did
I do this..(JAMES 1:17)
Then things started to change after about 18 min,the VM1000 oil pressure gauge
which was 80#
was showing a TREND down,76,1 min later 71,65,60,53, radio to ground crew coming
down ,landed
3 point ,and when it slowed down in the roll out I see smoke but I still have oil
pressure 38#
shut it down in front of the hanger and this plane looks like a Red chili pepper
dipped it olive oil!!
Lift top Cowl ,open top of plenum cover and the flange to the prop gov line loose....This
has never
leaked at any point doing run ups etc(check every line 3 times with a wrench)I
had put 7 qts in just
in case!!It dumped 3 Qts pretty sudden..
I have made the prop hub adj fine pitch ..put in the 3 qts and ready to go up again
....Oh well
thats why they call it first test flight!!!
The what I have so far info..
Eng is 0360 A1A Aero sport Lightspeed right side
Empty weight1142
Inst PanelLaird Owens
Seats and uplDJ
Harts C/S
GraphicsFreedom Graphics
Paint GuyMe
Primer sealer Epoxy Dupont 2510s
PPG DBU base coat Torch Red (Vette Red)
PPG clear 2021
Some Pic
http://www.3gunmatch.com/rv6/rv6.htm
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| Subject: | Just names and no faces |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net>
A couple of years ago I hosted a BBQ for 7 builders and I am hosting the 2nd
one at OSH on Wednesday July 27th starting at 6pm. It'll be in Camp
Scholler. Basically, soft drinks, beer and hot dog. I'm planning this year
on renting a second campsite so we'llhave enough room. Bring your own
chairs. There'll be a tip jar to help defray the cost ($5 maximum depending
on how much beer your consume).
Families are welcome but we discourage rugrats.
There'll be a Web site posted within a week or so with more details.
The idea came for this from the GlaStar group which a few years ago started
a hot dog social. It was a great idea. And we had great fun two years ago.
Bob Collins
St. Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LarryRobertHelming
Subject: Re: RV-List: Just names and no faces
--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming"
--> <lhelming@sigecom.net>
I did just this same thing about 3 years ago. I think 6 showed up at the
prescribed time. Might be fetter, I think, to get a readable name badge and
just walk around and let others see you and you them (if they have a name
badge on). On the other hand, meeting at high noon at the theater in the
woods would work. How about Thursday at high noon? Going to Van's dinner
is another good one to attend.
Indiana Larry, RV7 Tip Up It Flies 36 hrs out of 40 testing is done.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stan Jones" <stan.jones@xtra.co.nz>
Subject: RV-List: Just names and no faces
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stan Jones" <stan.jones@xtra.co.nz>
>
> It is only about a month til OshKosh, and I know a lot of you will be
> there.
> I have been on this list for about three years, and have read all the
> words,
> and
> digested the opinions. I will be there for the third time, all the way
> from
> New Zealand,
> and I would realy enjoy putting a face to all the names
> Would it not be a good idea to have a bit of a get together, to have a
> drink
> perhaps
> something to eat, and tell a lot of lies.
> Perhaps someone with a bit of local knowledge could take this up, and
> suggest a venue.
> There are lots of eating places to consider, or we could even stoop to
> Kelly
> s Bar.
> Is there any enthusiasm for this idea ?
> Stan Jones
>
>
>
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| Subject: | First Flight N863JJ |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kevin Williams" <kevinsky18@hotmail.com>
Congratulations John!
All those years have finally paid off. Im sure there were times when you
thought this project would never get done and here you are now, flying.
Youre an inspiration to us all.
I also love the paint job.
Happy flying
From: "John Mcmahon" <rv6@earthlink.net>
"JIMMY EDWARDS" <edwardsrv6@tds.net>, "DOUG ESHELMAN"
<desh@comcast.net>, "Tom Eyssen" <teyssen@comcast.net>, "Dave
Hudgins" <d.hudgins@insightbb.com>, "Janet"
<janet.piper@Vanderbilt.Edu>, "CHUCK JENKJINS"
<cjenkins454@netzero.net>, <KECoats@aol.com>, "BILL LOGUE"
<wrlogue@att.net>, "Mancini" <mancin2@optonline.net>, "Joe Mckervey"
<mckervey@edge.net>, "JOHN MILLER" <jamiller@infionline.net>,
"ALLEN MOLLEYHORN" <allanm@bellsouth.net>, "Piper, Gary"
<gary.piper@Vanderbilt.Edu>, <rv6-list@matronics.com>, "EDD (2003)
TECK" <etohio@iwon.com>, "TOBY" <airtoby@comcast.net>, "Tommy Walker"
<twsurveyor@msn.com>, "Winans, Dave W" <Dave.Winans@getronics.com>,
"JOHN WOODALL" <john.woodall@tnnash.ang.af.mil>
Subject: RV-List: First Flight N863JJ
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Mcmahon" <rv6@earthlink.net>
First flight of Kit #22411 RV6 at Portland,Tn (1M5) on the 22nd at
0732..This was a 13 year project,the old
slow kit ..Thanks to the RV list,Gary V, and Sam B's Web site..I used the
EAA first flight guide lines,which
is a must do if you can...Flight time was only 20 min,but SWEET...Mistakes
that I made!!!
1Check everything 3 times in the Eng,oil line,gas lines,etc...
2Hart C/S got ahead of me when it un/loaded on take off(2780) WHEW
After take off,stayed in the pattern and trim out and say to myself
(WOW)...did I do this..(JAMES 1:17)
Then things started to change after about 18 min,the VM1000 oil pressure
gauge which was 80#
was showing a TREND down,76,1 min later 71,65,60,53, radio to ground crew
coming down ,landed
3 point ,and when it slowed down in the roll out I see smoke but I still
have oil pressure 38#
shut it down in front of the hanger and this plane looks like a Red chili
pepper dipped it olive oil!!
Lift top Cowl ,open top of plenum cover and the flange to the prop gov line
loose....This has never
leaked at any point doing run ups etc(check every line 3 times with a
wrench)I had put 7 qts in just
in case!!It dumped 3 Qts pretty sudden..
I have made the prop hub adj fine pitch ..put in the 3 qts and ready to go
up again ....Oh well
thats why they call it first test flight!!!
The what I have so far info..
Eng is 0360 A1A Aero sport Lightspeed right side
Empty weight1142
Inst PanelLaird Owens
Seats and uplDJ
Harts C/S
GraphicsFreedom Graphics
Paint GuyMe
Primer sealer Epoxy Dupont 2510s
PPG DBU base coat Torch Red (Vette Red)
PPG clear 2021
Some Pic
http://www.3gunmatch.com/rv6/rv6.htm
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| Subject: | Re: Cowl Camlocs, Brakeline brackets |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Mcmahon" <rv6@earthlink.net>
Dean
I used Sky-Bolt Cowl fastners the best,check
out some pic
John
http://www.3gunmatch.com/rv6/rv6.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS" <dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net>
Subject: RV-List: Cowl Camlocs, Brakeline brackets
> --> RV-List message posted by: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS"
> <dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net>
>
>
> Two questions:
>
> Camlocs-Those who put them on your epoxy type S cowl..... Did you epoxy or
> glass in a metal reinforcing strip underneath (or above) the area where
> you
> put the holes for the camlocs? If so how thick of a strip did you use?
> Did
> you just epoxy the strip to the back of the cowl or did you put a layer of
> glass cloth over it too? Or is this seemingly thin fiberglass tough
> enough
> to take those point loads all by itself? I'm using 4 inch spacing on the
> camlocs.
>
> Brakelines-I just installed the flex lines that go from the master
> cylinders
> to the firewall bracket (tri gear RV-6). Surprise, surprise......things
> are
> very tight there and the hoses touch the .063 firewall angle stiffeners
> that
> meet above the bracket. I rechecked the plans and....I made and installed
> the bracket correctly. But, I'm afraid the hoses will chafe and I'll have
> fluid all over the floor. I'm not a happy camper about that but I've got
> them installed and it's per plans so I'm really not inclined to make
> modifications right now. Good idea to leave as is or not? I didn't find
> much about this in the archives so I assume people are living with it.
> You
> tri-gear 6s, has this been a problem? If yes how did you fix?
>
> Thanks for all the help
>
> Dean Psiropoulos
> RV-6A N197DM
> Paneling and trying to finish cowling
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Fond Du Lac socializing ???? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
Will there be anything like the following happening in F'D'L' ?
Bob Collins wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net>
>
>A couple of years ago I hosted a BBQ for 7 builders and I am hosting the 2nd
>one at OSH on Wednesday July 27th starting at 6pm. It'll be in Camp
>Scholler. Basically, soft drinks, beer and hot dog. I'm planning this year
>on renting a second campsite so we'llhave enough room. Bring your own
>chairs. There'll be a tip jar to help defray the cost ($5 maximum depending
>on how much beer your consume).
>
>Families are welcome but we discourage rugrats.
>
>There'll be a Web site posted within a week or so with more details.
>
>The idea came for this from the GlaStar group which a few years ago started
>a hot dog social. It was a great idea. And we had great fun two years ago.
>
>Bob Collins
>St. Paul
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight N863JJ |
--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
John Mcmahon wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "John Mcmahon" <rv6@earthlink.net>
>
> First flight of Kit #22411 RV6 at Portland,Tn (1M5) on the 22nd at 0732..This
was a 13 year project,the old
> slow kit ..Thanks to the RV list,Gary V, and Sam B's Web site..I used the EAA
first flight guide lines,which
> is a must do if you can...Flight time was only 20 min,but SWEET...
Gorgeous airplane, John! Congratulations on the entry into the flight
phase of your project (these planes are never "finished"!) and I look
forward to seeing your -6 on the line at Lebanon. :-)
Sam Buchanan
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--> RV-List message posted by: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com
BRIAN, I AM INTERESTED IN RV10 PANEL AND CENTER CONSOLE. JUST STARTED 10 SO
HAVE LOTS OF TIME. IF U GET INTO THAT ARENA DROP ME AN EMAIL.
THANKS,
DOUG
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight N863JJ |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
John,
Very Nice! good luck and enjoy the flying time. I am not quite there yet
but close enough to taste it. 15 years in the making of a really slow build
RV-6
Tim
-------Original Message-------
From: John Mcmahon
Eyssen; Dave Hudgins; Janet; CHUCK JENKJINS; KECoats@aol.com; BILL LOGUE;
Mancini; Joe Mckervey; JOHN MILLER; ALLEN MOLLEYHORN; Piper, Gary;
rv6-list@matronics.com; EDD \(2003\) TECK; TOBY; Tommy Walker; Winans, Dave
W; JOHN WOODALL
Subject: RV-List: First Flight N863JJ
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Mcmahon" <rv6@earthlink.net>
First flight of Kit #22411 RV6 at Portland,Tn (1M5) on the 22nd at 0732.
This was a 13 year project,the old
slow kit ..Thanks to the RV list,Gary V, and Sam B's Web site..I used the
EAA first flight guide lines,which
is a must do if you can...Flight time was only 20 min,but SWEET...Mistakes
that I made!!!
1Check everything 3 times in the Eng,oil line,gas lines,etc...
2Hart C/S got ahead of me when it un/loaded on take off(2780) WHEW
After take off,stayed in the pattern and trim out and say to myself (WOW)..
did I do this..(JAMES 1:17)
Then things started to change after about 18 min,the VM1000 oil pressure
gauge which was 80#
was showing a TREND down,76,1 min later 71,65,60,53, radio to ground crew
coming down ,landed
3 point ,and when it slowed down in the roll out I see smoke but I still
have oil pressure 38#
shut it down in front of the hanger and this plane looks like a Red chili
pepper dipped it olive oil!!
Lift top Cowl ,open top of plenum cover and the flange to the prop gov line
loose....This has never
leaked at any point doing run ups etc(check every line 3 times with a
wrench)I had put 7 qts in just
in case!!It dumped 3 Qts pretty sudden..
I have made the prop hub adj fine pitch ..put in the 3 qts and ready to go
up again ....Oh well
thats why they call it first test flight!!!
The what I have so far info..
Eng is 0360 A1A Aero sport Lightspeed right side
Empty weight1142
Inst PanelLaird Owens
Seats and uplDJ
Harts C/S
GraphicsFreedom Graphics
Paint GuyMe
Primer sealer Epoxy Dupont 2510s
PPG DBU base coat Torch Red (Vette Red)
PPG clear 2021
Some Pic
http://www.3gunmatch.com/rv6/rv6.htm
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| Subject: | Fw: Fw: Wheel fairings installation |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: Barnes, Tom
Subject: Re: Fw: Wheel fairings installation
Sending this for another RV-6 builder.
I'm not subscribed to the list at the moment. Would you please ask
if anyone has actually measured the gear leg angle difference between suspended
and not-suspended fuselage.
Thanks,
Tom
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight N863JJ |
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 6/23/2005 5:52:27 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
rv6@earthlink.net writes:
First flight of Kit #22411 RV6 at Portland,Tn (1M5) on the 22nd at
0732..This was a 13 year project,the old
slow kit ..Thanks to the RV list,Gary V, and Sam B's Web site..I used the
EAA first flight guide lines,which
is a must do if you can...Flight time was only 20 min,but SWEET
===============================
Good job, John! It was my pleasure. Hope to see you and your new airplane
at OSH.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 755hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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| Subject: | RV6 Whelen Stobes |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tony Marshall" <tony@lambros.com>
Have Whelen strobes on my 6. Noticed the other day that the left wing
strobe comes on initially, then dies out. The tail, and right wing strobes
work fine. Mine are the type that include the nav lights in the wingtip
light assembly....all nav lights work fine. I pulled the left wingtip to
see if by lucky chance my system had the wingtip power supply...no....all
light units are wired to a common power source. I didnt built the plane.
Am I correct in assuming this is a power supply problem, or could it be the
strobe light itself. Have thought about taking the one off the other
wingtip and seeing how it acted when plugged into the faulty one....then
thought, why not just ask to see if anyone knows. Thanks for any
assistance.
Tony Marshall
RV6
Polson, MT
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| Subject: | Re: Bigger tires for 6A on grass? |
--> RV-List message posted by: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com>
Paul, Mickey,
The Grove 6" with the 1.25 axial will NOT work because it is too wide. I called
Grove aircraft about their rim, it is too wide to fit on a stock RV axial. The
6" tire on a 1.25 axial is for a Piper Cub conversion. They threw out some guessing
and was told that special gear legs where made at one time? (I checked
and doubt either are possible, have ever happened or would be easy to do.)
I called the Guy who makes Van's gear and asked him about a special batch of gears
legs he once made, as I was told. He did not recall ever making them or may
be a long time ago.
Someone suggested / guessed that may be an adapter or axial extension could be
made. Has anyone done this?
Bottom line that is not going to happen unless you have some money for custom gear
legs. There are no bolt on aircraft wheels that will fit the RV and take a
6" tire.
As far as adapters? Don't know but I guess you could sleeve the stock gear and
increase the diameter and length of the axial to accommodate 6" rims, which use
1.5" dia axial. Not sure how you would do that? Obviously welding would be a
NO NO.
Mickey you are building a RV-8? The RV-8 uses a bolt on axial to gear leg? I think
you have a different situation in that case as all the other RV's have a single
gear leg and axial made from one piece of steel, so axial changes are not
possible without replacing the whole gear leg. If the RV-8 has a removable bold-on
axial like some Cessna's, this would be easy to convert with a bolt on
axial of the proper size.
Any one want to make some custom rims?
Cheers George
>Mickey,
>Generally 6" wheels use a 1.5" axle whereas 5" wheels use a 1.25" axle.
I'm
>planning to use Grove wheels and they make a 6" wheel that uses a 1.25"
axle
>that will fit on my Grove gear legs.
>
>Paul
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| Subject: | Re: RV6 Whelen Stobes |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
Tony Marshall wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Tony Marshall" <tony@lambros.com>
>
>Have Whelen strobes on my 6. Noticed the other day that the left wing
>strobe comes on initially, then dies out. The tail, and right wing strobes
>work fine. Mine are the type that include the nav lights in the wingtip
>light assembly....all nav lights work fine. I pulled the left wingtip to
>see if by lucky chance my system had the wingtip power supply...no....all
>light units are wired to a common power source. I didnt built the plane.
>
>Am I correct in assuming this is a power supply problem, or could it be the
>strobe light itself.
>
Could be either.
> Have thought about taking the one off the other
>wingtip and seeing how it acted when plugged into the faulty one
>
Good troubleshooting methodology. First swap the easiest component
..... which may be the strobe or power supply, and if the problem moves
then you're done. If not, swap the other part .... do not just just
guess that it's the bad one ..... and continue to swap parts until
you've run out of possibilities. Wiring connections could also be a
problem. Strobe failures are usually the trigger transistor in the
power supply if the system isn't ancient ..... strobe bulbs will degrade
over time.
Linn
do not archive
>....then
>thought, why not just ask to see if anyone knows. Thanks for any
>assistance.
>
>Tony Marshall
>RV6
>Polson, MT
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Bigger tires for 6A on grass? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Trotter <ptrotter@acm.org>
George,
The RV-8 uses a totally different style of gear leg than all other RVs. It
has a bolt on axle that bolts to a flat vertical surface on the gear leg. I
checked with Grove and you can put their 1.25" axle (P/N 5015) and their 6"
wheels (P/N 65-1) on the RV-8 gear legs, at least the gear legs they make
(which Mickey and I have) which is my current plan.. I expect this axle and
wheels will also work on the stock Van's RV-8 gear leg, but I did not check
this.
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV-List: Re: Bigger tires for 6A on grass?
> --> RV-List message posted by: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com>
>
> Paul, Mickey,
>
> The Grove 6" with the 1.25 axial will NOT work because it is too wide. I
called Grove aircraft about their rim, it is too wide to fit on a stock RV
axial. The 6" tire on a 1.25 axial is for a Piper Cub conversion. They threw
out some guessing and was told that special gear legs where made at one
time? (I checked and doubt either are possible, have ever happened or would
be easy to do.)
>
> I called the Guy who makes Van's gear and asked him about a special batch
of gears legs he once made, as I was told. He did not recall ever making
them or may be a long time ago.
>
> Someone suggested / guessed that may be an adapter or axial extension
could be made. Has anyone done this?
>
> Bottom line that is not going to happen unless you have some money for
custom gear legs. There are no bolt on aircraft wheels that will fit the RV
and take a 6" tire.
>
> As far as adapters? Don't know but I guess you could sleeve the stock gear
and increase the diameter and length of the axial to accommodate 6" rims,
which use 1.5" dia axial. Not sure how you would do that? Obviously welding
would be a NO NO.
>
> Mickey you are building a RV-8? The RV-8 uses a bolt on axial to gear leg?
I think you have a different situation in that case as all the other RV's
have a single gear leg and axial made from one piece of steel, so axial
changes are not possible without replacing the whole gear leg. If the RV-8
has a removable bold-on axial like some Cessna's, this would be easy to
convert with a bolt on axial of the proper size.
>
>
> Any one want to make some custom rims?
>
> Cheers George
>
>
> >Mickey,
>
> >Generally 6" wheels use a 1.5" axle whereas 5" wheels use a 1.25"
axle. I'm
> >planning to use Grove wheels and they make a 6" wheel that uses a
1.25" axle
> >that will fit on my Grove gear legs.
> >
> >Paul
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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>
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight N863JJ |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> First flight of Kit #22411 RV6 at Portland,Tn (1M5) on the 22nd at 0732..
Congrats! Beautiful airplane, but it's no fair taking pictures
with the paint still wet! :-)
Cool name, too.
Best regards,
Mickey
--
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http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 Canopy
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| Subject: | Re: Cowl Camlocs, Brakeline brackets |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Dean,
I didn't put any metal in around the firewall perimeter, and have had no
problems. Along the cowl sides I did rivet and bond in a strip to
reinforce the F glass, which was pretty thin and had pretty poor edge
distance in this area. I think I used .032 IIRC.
Some pics at:
http://home.mindspring.com/~rv6/RV6site/plenum.htm
Jeff Point
RV-6
Milwaukee WI
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel vapors in cockpit |
--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
In a message dated 6/22/05 9:55:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
shempdowling2@earthlink.net writes:
> I also have the Andair valve. Were you able to see blue dye?
>
Yes, finally. In my case it was the front plate, which is blocked from easy
view by the wire bundles running down my old style center console. BTW, the
fuel smell was intermittent in my case also. I removed the valve and
retightened all the screws.
Harry Crosby
RV-6 N16CX, 96 hours.
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| Subject: | Re: RV6 Whelen Stobes |
--> RV-List message posted by: GMC <gmcnutt@shaw.ca>
Can you just swap plugs (wires) on the power supply to trouble shoot the
strobe bulbs?
George in Langley BC
>--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
>
>Tony Marshall wrote:
>
>Have Whelen strobes on my 6. Noticed the other day that the left wing
>strobe comes on initially, then dies out. The tail, and right wing strobes
>work fine. Am I correct in assuming this is a power supply problem, or could
it be the strobe light itself.
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight N863JJ |
--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
Congrats John. You're gonna love it.
Harry Crosby
RV-6 N16CX, 96 hours
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--> RV-List message posted by: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com>
>Straight down, general surrounding
>terrain, does lateral distance to terrain count? I've been more than 1200
ft
>from the straight down ground, but the peak next to me was only 100 ft away.
Airspace: Think vertical terrain, topography. Horizontal distance is addressed
as obstacle clearance 500 feet (sparsely populated) and 1000 feet (not sparsely
populated). Airspace rules are vertical (altitude). Cloud clearance is defined
with Horz limits (2000 feet/ 1mile).
"Think of Class G as "ground" airspace. It covers almost the entire country. In
very remote areas it has an upper limit at 14,500' MSL. However the vast majority
of area of the country it has an upper limit that follows the contour of
the ground. The top of Class G usually is where the floor of the overriding Class
E is. Like a coat of paint following the contour of the land. Sometimes the
depth of Class G is 700', some times it's 1200', and where Class B,C,D or E
extend to the surface there is no surface Class G."
http://www.flytandem.com/airspace.htm
>Does the ceiling of the Class G airspace in that area have a nice airport
>sized bump in it?
Yes there is nice bump as the airspace follows terrain for higher terrain. Think
of a mountain that is a real nice bump. Every little bump mountain and hill
makes the class E/G interface (MSL altitude) change. There are of course areas
where where there no class E airspace at 1200/700 ft AGL. Class G than would
effectively goes to 14,500 MSL, however above 10,000 feet ( and at least 1200
feet AGL) you have the same Vis./cloud clearance as class E anyway.
Remember 3 things:
-All airspace rules are to keep you, VFR traffic, away from IFR or commercial traffic.
That is the main reason for all of this. It does not protect VFR traffic.
(1 mile Vis., 700 feet AGL just below clouds in mountainous terrain is legal
but not safe.)
-There is not (really) any uncontrolled airspace, just less controlled. All airspace
is controlled, even (G), it is just less control. Class G at night is really
class E (below 10,000 MSL).
-Think of airspace as requirements for equipment/pilot and visibility/cloud clearance;
That is all it is.
>In other words, At 500 yds out I would be at 1400 ft AGL (Class E) on final,
>but at 300 yds out I would suddenly transition to 200 ft AGL (Class G) even
>though I've only descended a 100ft MSL?
This makes not difference of any practical sense, but for the sake of discussion
let's assume you are in an area where the floor of class E airspace is at 1200
ft AGL . Lets say you are flying at 1300 ft MSL/AGL in class E airspace and
the terrain goes up 200 ft, you would go out of class E and into G airspace.
Now the terrain drops back down 200 ft, you will go back out of G airspace and
back into class E airspace with out changing altitude. So what? If you where
legal at 1300msl in class E airspace, 3 miles/ 500 below, going into class G will
make no difference if you are cruising at 1000 ft AGL in 1 mile Vis and just
below the clouds and the terrain drops 200 ft, you need to descend to stay
in class G airspace.This scenario is not practical. For one thing with 1 mile
Vis. your "slat range" over the nose means you would already be a few 100 feet
above the ground to see it. In other words you are IFR at 1 mile Vis. and 1000
ft AGL. Even 3 miles Vis. at 1000 ft AGL would be
marginal
for seeing much if any ground reference. The point is this is not realistic.
>I'm guessing, to stay legal, one would not be able to fly anything close
to
>a normal approach.
"Stay Legal", Not sure what you mean by legal, but I am guessing you mean cloud
and minimum visibility, which is the difference between G and E airspace. There
is really no practical concern going between G/E airspace, unless you are scud
running. Scud running in 1 mile or even 3 miles of visibility in mountainous
terrain is a sure way to fly into something hard and immovable.
Class G/E really means nothing unless the weather (Vis. and ceiling) is low, and
it means VFR pilot stay away. Of course as someone pointed out you could shoot
an instrument approach and and pop out and see (or hit) a VFR aircraft at 699'
AGL in one mile Vis. clear of clouds (day). Lets just say the FAR's are generous
in allowing pilots to legally kill them selves.
>" ..a normal approach"
I don't get it Wheeler?
I don't really understand the point of your question. If you mean approach, as
in instrument approach, it makes no difference what airspace you are in. If you
are VFR and the weather is low, you are right you can't fly a normal approach.
You will have to fly much lower to the ground to stay clear of the cloud.
BTW: IFR clearance in class G airspace is not needed or can be given by ATC. You
can fly IFR in class G airspace but you are on your own. You do it every time
you take off IFR at a class G airport like Sedona, until you get to the overlaying
class E airspace. Even than you are on your own until you get high enough
to get on radar.
WHAT YOU NEED FOR CLASS E TO THE GROUND AT AN NON-TOWERED AIRPORT:
Some one tried to explain when an airport (no tower) qualifies for a class E airspace
to the ground (the old control zone). It really has nothing to do directly
with the amount of traffic at the airport, but it must have three things:
1) IAP - Instrument approach procedure
2) Weather observer / observation
3) and two way communication with ATC or Flt service from the ground
Bottom line: If you are flying IFR than class G/E really does not affect your legal
operations. Yes you have to be aware of possible VFR traffic at any altitude
if VFR conditions exist. If you are VFR flying around VFR with less than 3
miles Vis..or less than 500 feet below a cloud, than class G/E airspace might
matter. Legal or not it does not matter if you hit something hard going 160 MPH.
As long as you always fly 3 miles Vis. and at least 500 feet below the clouds
than you may not be legal.
Cheers George
do not archive
--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.edu>
Wuups,
Didn't mean to cause a ruckus or instigate the ire of the list police, I
just figure a good discussion about some of the basics rules will always
be
good for us who fly RVs. Sorry if I offended anyone.
RE Class G, or more to the point, where do you measure the 1200'/700' from,
which was the point of my question? Straight down, general surrounding
terrain, does lateral distance to terrain count? I've been more than 1200
ft
from the straight down ground, but the peak next to me was only 100 ft away.
Does the ceiling of the Class G airspace in that area have a nice airport
sized bump in it?
In other words, At 500 yds out I would be at 1400 ft AGL (Class E) on final,
but at 300 yds out I would suddenly transition to 200 ft AGL (Class G) even
though I've only descended a 100ft MSL?
I'm guessing, to stay legal, one would not be able to fly anything close
to
a normal approach.
do not archive
PS,
Since I didn't know the answer to this that day I went to Wickenburg
instead... that's my story, and I'm sticking to it!!!
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel vapors in cockpit |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
I had my big nose right up against the valve (with bp on just for the hell
of it) and couldnt smell a thing. I wiped all of the connections with a
white rag and came up clean. Im thinking its probably come from the vents.
I may try to attach some tubing to the vents and run them down and away like
another lister suggested.
----- Original Message -----
From: <HCRV6@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel vapors in cockpit
> --> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 6/22/05 9:55:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> shempdowling2@earthlink.net writes:
>
>
>> I also have the Andair valve. Were you able to see blue dye?
>>
> Yes, finally. In my case it was the front plate, which is blocked from
> easy
> view by the wire bundles running down my old style center console. BTW,
> the
> fuel smell was intermittent in my case also. I removed the valve and
> retightened all the screws.
>
> Harry Crosby
> RV-6 N16CX, 96 hours.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel vapors in cockpitFuel vapors in cockpit |
--> RV-List message posted by: al.herron@Aerojet.com (Herron, Al)
I happened to be talking to our local EAA Tech Counselor last weekend
about pressurizing fuel tanks. He suggests putting a toy rubber balloon
on a fitting (could be a tee in your input pressure line). You don't
want much pressure, maybe enough to half-inflate the balloon. The
balloon will give you a visual indicator of a leak (by slowly deflating)
plus serve as a safety valve - the balloon will burst way before your
aluminum tank will.
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| Subject: | Low oil pressure event |
--> RV-List message posted by: Rick Galati <rick6a@yahoo.com>
Upon start-up, my brand new Lycoming O-320-D1A quickly achieves adequate oil pressure
at 650 RPM idle and remains well within acceptable limits throughout a
given flight......that is until I retard the throttle to idle either for stalls,
simulated engine out, or on final approach. The VM-1000 engine monitor quickly
issues an aural alert when the oil pressure drops below the minimum acceptable
level of 25 psi. In flight, with the throttle retarded to idle it can drop
as low as 18 psi. A very slight increase in power quickly brings the oil pressure
back up to acceptable limits. Why does this low oil pressure event occur
only when I pull the power to idle in flight yet does not occur while idling
on the ground?
Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla"
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| Subject: | Re: Bigger tires for 6A on grass? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
I haven't followed this thread very closely, so I don't know if the
intent is to fly off 'unimproved' fields.
If the field is smooth enough to dignify it with the name 'runway' you
probably don't actually need 6" wheels to operate off of grass. Many,
many RV's operate off of grass on a regular basis without problems. If
it's rough enough to need 6" wheels, you probably don't want wheel
pants. :-)
Charlie
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| Subject: | Low oil pressure event |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Vincent Osburn" <flyby41@earthlink.net>
Rick,
If it helps?....... I couldn't find my seat cushion one time when my oil
pressure sender failed unknowingly. Oil pressure reading was erratic on
mine. First dropping to 30 or 40 then bouncing to 100 on a climb out. I
eventually figured it had to be an electrical failure of either the sender
or gauge due to the very rapid fluctuation and it was. Is your fluctuation
slow or rapid as this may be a clue? The oil pressure doesn't seem to ever
get below 45 to 50 psi or so at idle on my 0-320 topping out at 75 psi MOL.
The old sender and gage read about 85 psi on the top end. Both were/ are
automotive type units on my airplane.
> [Original Message]
> From: Rick Galati <rick6a@yahoo.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 6/23/2005 12:56:58 PM
> Subject: RV-List: Low oil pressure event
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Rick Galati <rick6a@yahoo.com>
>
> Upon start-up, my brand new Lycoming O-320-D1A quickly achieves adequate
oil pressure at 650 RPM idle and remains well within acceptable limits
throughout a given flight......that is until I retard the throttle to idle
either for stalls, simulated engine out, or on final approach. The VM-1000
engine monitor quickly issues an aural alert when the oil pressure drops
below the minimum acceptable level of 25 psi. In flight, with the throttle
retarded to idle it can drop as low as 18 psi. A very slight increase in
power quickly brings the oil pressure back up to acceptable limits. Why
does this low oil pressure event occur only when I pull the power to idle
in flight yet does not occur while idling on the ground?
>
> Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla"
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Just names and no faces |
--> RV-List message posted by: cecilth@juno.com
Some years ago I organized a table at Vans Banquet for the RV List Group.
I did this for three years. It worked out nicely.
At that time Bill Bennett (at Vans) cooperated for it. This would work
again if one of you would take the time to organize it.
Cecil Hatfield
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 07:31:03 -0500 "LarryRobertHelming"
<lhelming@sigecom.net> writes:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming"
> <lhelming@sigecom.net>
>
> I did just this same thing about 3 years ago. I think 6 showed up
> at the
> prescribed time. Might be fetter, I think, to get a readable name
> badge and
> just walk around and let others see you and you them (if they have a
> name
> badge on). On the other hand, meeting at high noon at the theater
> in the
> woods would work. How about Thursday at high noon? Going to Van's
> dinner
> is another good one to attend.
>
> Indiana Larry, RV7 Tip Up It Flies 36 hrs out of 40 testing is
> done.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stan Jones" <stan.jones@xtra.co.nz>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Just names and no faces
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Stan Jones"
> <stan.jones@xtra.co.nz>
> >
> > It is only about a month til OshKosh, and I know a lot of you will
> be
> > there.
> > I have been on this list for about three years, and have read all
> the
> > words,
> > and
> > digested the opinions. I will be there for the third time, all
> the way
> > from
> > New Zealand,
> > and I would realy enjoy putting a face to all the names
> > Would it not be a good idea to have a bit of a get together, to
> have a
> > drink
> > perhaps
> > something to eat, and tell a lot of lies.
> > Perhaps someone with a bit of local knowledge could take this up,
> and
> > suggest a venue.
> > There are lots of eating places to consider, or we could even
> stoop to
> > Kelly
> > s Bar.
> > Is there any enthusiasm for this idea ?
> > Stan Jones
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Bigger tires for 6A on grass? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net>
Van's tested a set of 6" wheels on an RV-6 or 6a at one point. Their
evaluation was that the increased rough field ability wasn't worth the other
performance sacrifices.
Still, if you are operating out of rough/soft fields, it might be a
worthwhile modification. Drop a phone call or e-mail to them and ask how
they engineered the conversion.
KB
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| Subject: | Re: Low oil pressure event |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Galati" <rick6a@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV-List: Low oil pressure event
> --> RV-List message posted by: Rick Galati <rick6a@yahoo.com>
>
> Upon start-up, my brand new Lycoming O-320-D1A quickly achieves adequate
> oil pressure at 650 RPM idle and remains well within acceptable limits
> throughout a given flight......that is until I retard the throttle to idle
> either for stalls, simulated engine out, or on final approach. The
> VM-1000 engine monitor quickly issues an aural alert when the oil pressure
> drops below the minimum acceptable level of 25 psi. In flight, with the
> throttle retarded to idle it can drop as low as 18 psi. A very slight
> increase in power quickly brings the oil pressure back up to acceptable
> limits. Why does this low oil pressure event occur only when I pull the
> power to idle in flight yet does not occur while idling on the ground?
>
> Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla"
How much warmer is the oil when you're airborne compared to when you're
idling on the ground? I see a meaningful difference in idle oil pressure
with 200f oil vs 150f oil.
How are your oil pressures otherwise?
KB
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| Subject: | Low oil pressure event |
--> RV-List message posted by: "DonVS" <dsvs@comcast.net>
Rick,
Did you bleed the air out of the system? If not try doing that, it might
help. Don
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rick Galati
Subject: RV-List: Low oil pressure event
--> RV-List message posted by: Rick Galati <rick6a@yahoo.com>
Upon start-up, my brand new Lycoming O-320-D1A quickly achieves adequate oil
pressure at 650 RPM idle and remains well within acceptable limits
throughout a given flight......that is until I retard the throttle to idle
either for stalls, simulated engine out, or on final approach. The VM-1000
engine monitor quickly issues an aural alert when the oil pressure drops
below the minimum acceptable level of 25 psi. In flight, with the throttle
retarded to idle it can drop as low as 18 psi. A very slight increase in
power quickly brings the oil pressure back up to acceptable limits. Why does
this low oil pressure event occur only when I pull the power to idle in
flight yet does not occur while idling on the ground?
Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla"
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Dean Pichon" <deanpichon@msn.com>
I have two Vetterman vents on the LHS skirt on the canopy of my -4. One for
each seat. Both provide plenty of air while I am flying, but not nearly
enough while I am taxiing. Does anyone have any suggestions to get
sufficient cooling air while on the ground?
Dean
RV-4
280 hours
Bolton, MA
----Original Message Follows----
From: Doug Weiler <dcw@mnwing.org>
Subject: RV-List: RV-4 air vent
--> RV-List message posted by: Doug Weiler <dcw@mnwing.org>
Greetings Listers:
For the RV-4 folks (there must be a couple still around):
I really need to increase the fresh air ventilation in my -4. Right now I
am taking fresh air off the back baffle and running it through Van's mixing
box into the cabin. Plenty of fresh air when in the "cold" mode, but since
the air flows through the top of the cowling first, it is about 10 degrees
above ambient. Not good on a hot day.
I want to install a NACA vent under the right cheek venting up to a fresh
air eyeball mounted under the right lower portion of the panel. I have a
fair amount of experience in knowing that there are a lot of weird pressure
areas around the RV-4 cowl and canopy. Have any of you mounted a NACA vent
in this area on the RHS?? Does it work OK???
BTW, I have one of Larry Vetterman's little rotating scoop things for the
rear seat pax and it works very well on the RHS of the canopy skirt. But
mounting a similar vent for the front pilot is useless (I had one located
here on a previous RV-4 and it suck air out!!)
Thanks
Doug Weiler
N722DW, 200hrs
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--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>I have two Vetterman vents on the LHS skirt on the canopy of my -4. One for
>each seat. Both provide plenty of air while I am flying, but not nearly
>enough while I am taxiing. Does anyone have any suggestions to get
>sufficient cooling air while on the ground?
Open and properly secure the canopy :)
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re: RV-4 air vent |
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
In a message dated 06/23/2005 4:51:48 PM Central Standard Time,
ronlee@pcisys.net writes:
Does anyone have any suggestions to get
>sufficient cooling air while on the ground?
>>>>
Not that I'd suggest anyone else do it like I did, but if you can somehow
incorporate a blower into your system between the inlet and the eyeballs, it
would be just a flip of a switch away- I used a 4" bilge blower from West Marine-
see:
http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=4994
Works well enough in my tip-up -6A to be comfortable without opening the
canopy from engine start to shutdown. Not as "cool" as a slider, but I don't like
to sweat and haven't yet even at 90+ here in TN...
Mark Phillips -190 hours &
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| Subject: | Re: Bigger tires for 6A on grass? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net>
>
> Van's tested a set of 6" wheels on an RV-6 or 6a at one point. Their
> evaluation was that the increased rough field ability wasn't worth the
> other
> performance sacrifices.
>
> Still, if you are operating out of rough/soft fields, it might be a
> worthwhile modification. Drop a phone call or e-mail to them and ask how
> they engineered the conversion.
>
> KB
My thoughts after numerous grass strip landings in my 6A is that if the
field is rough enough to warrant larger tires, one should not operate a
Van's trigear out of that field. There are two types of bumps - those which
are on the order of size of the tires (not as common) and those where they
could best be described as waves or undulations in the ground (these seem to
be common). These latter ones can and have bent nose gears on trike RV's,
followed shortly thereafter by other parts being bent. The problem is the
elastic nature of the gear combined with a short wheel base. During a
landing rollout or takeoff, the nose wheel hits the "wave", driving the nose
up. A split second later, the mains hit the wave, driving them up and the
nose down - hard. The natural pitching frequency of my 6A is way too fast
to be able to react with elevator, and any attempts to do so will probably
result in a PIO.
Proceed with extreme caution in these trikes in any unfamiliar strip. The
worst speed, in my experience, is something in the 40 knot range.
Alex Peterson
N66AP 630 hours
Maple Grove, MN
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Sherri & Paul Richardson" <prichar@mail.win.org>
Hello All,
Has anyone used the Dynon for IFR? I'm thinking of using one as backup attitude
indicator, but I'd like some input into quirks, strengths, etc, for IFR flight.
Thanks,
Paul Richardson
RV-6A (bought) 490 hours
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel vapors in cockpit |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bobby Hester <bhester@hopkinsville.net>
Dean wrote:
> <>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dean" <dvanwinkle@royell.net>
>
> Jeff
>
> If you do find a way to pressurize your tank, I would not recommend much
> more than one psi. That is what I used when leak checking my tanks (
> approx
> 27 inches differential on a simple plastic tube water manometer ).
> That was
> enough to see definite deflection of the tank skin between the ribs. One
> builder reported using four psi and suffered permanent deformation of his
> tank.
>
> Dean Van Winkle
> RV-9A Fuselage/Finish
>
Drain tank, disconnect fuel line put a balloon on the fitting. Let
almost all the air out of your air compreser, down to the point that
there is just a little air left, using a blower tip with a rubber end
hold it up to your drain, push up and let a very little bit of air in.
If you put to much in the balloon will just blow up, not your tank :-)
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--> RV-List message posted by: Bobby Hester <bhester@hopkinsville.net>
Sherri & Paul Richardson wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Sherri & Paul Richardson" <prichar@mail.win.org>
>
>Hello All,
>Has anyone used the Dynon for IFR? I'm thinking of using one as backup attitude
indicator, but I'd like some input into quirks, strengths, etc, for IFR flight.
>Thanks,
>Paul Richardson
>RV-6A (bought) 490 hours
>
>
http://www.rvproject.com/ Dan does all the time!
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
I use my Dynon EFIS-D10 in IMC in my RV-7. It is my primary attitude
indication -- I have no gyros. I don't necessarily endorse or recommend
this, but I'm personally comfortable with it. I have conventional
airspeed/altimeter/VSI gauges, and a TruTrak Pictorial Pilot rounds out the
scan and redundancy. I would *not* consider flying in IMC with *any* EFIS
without conventional airspeed & altimeter gauges at a minimum.
My EFIS-D10 had some quirks early on (i.e. "the leans") but Dynon responded
quickly with software updates which fixed it. The unit has been rock solid.
I have 524 hours on my EFIS-D10. Only 15.3 of that is instrument time (24
approaches). So it's not like I'm doing a ton of hard IFR or anything.
I'm personally comfortable using the EFIS-D10 in lieu of gyroscopic
instruments. At this point I trust it more than I would trust mechanical
gyros. But again, I would not rely solely on it -- I personally require
conventional backup instruments for IFR.
Your mileage may vary...be careful out there.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sherri & Paul Richardson" <prichar@mail.win.org>
Subject: RV-List: Dynon
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Sherri & Paul Richardson"
<prichar@mail.win.org>
>
> Hello All,
> Has anyone used the Dynon for IFR? I'm thinking of using one as backup
attitude indicator, but I'd like some input into quirks, strengths, etc, for
IFR flight.
> Thanks,
> Paul Richardson
> RV-6A (bought) 490 hours
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Low oil pressure event |
--> RV-List message posted by: GMC <gmcnutt@shaw.ca>
Hi Rick
Here is my guess, - Oil pressure relief valve opens to bypass oil during
T/O and you have a foreign object lodged in valve assembly causing the
valve to stick open or partially open bypassing oil when you reduce the
RPM to idle. This bypass causes abnormally low pressure. The valve must
be closing completely on shut down with zero pressure or the temperature
change so your idle pressure is normal on your next engine start.
Check & clean pressure relief valve.
George in Langley BC
Rick Galati wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Rick Galati <rick6a@yahoo.com>
>
>Upon start-up, my brand new Lycoming O-320-D1A quickly achieves adequate oil pressure
at 650 RPM idle and remains well within acceptable limits throughout a
given flight......that is until I retard the throttle to idle either for stalls,
simulated engine out, or on final approach. The VM-1000 engine monitor quickly
issues an aural alert when the oil pressure drops below the minimum acceptable
level of 25 psi. In flight, with the throttle retarded to idle it can drop
as low as 18 psi. A very slight increase in power quickly brings the oil
pressure back up to acceptable limits. Why does this low oil pressure event occur
only when I pull the power to idle in flight yet does not occur while idling
on the ground?
>
>Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla"
>
>
>
>
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