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1. 05:27 AM - RV4 N3074T Crash (WALTER B KERR)
2. 05:58 AM - Brake Upgrade? (Ed Anderson)
3. 05:58 AM - Re:Back riveting wing skins (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
4. 07:44 AM - Re: Back riveting wing skins (elsa-henry)
5. 08:14 AM - Re: RV-6A Crash in Eastern Washington? (Bill Dube)
6. 08:33 AM - Re: RV4 N3074T Crash (Ron Lee)
7. 08:53 AM - Re: RV-6A Crash in Eastern Washington? (Sam Buchanan)
8. 09:04 AM - Re: RV-6A Crash in Eastern Washington? (Stein Bruch)
9. 09:13 AM - Re: RV-6A Crash in Eastern Washington? (Paul Folbrecht)
10. 09:37 AM - Re: Back riveting wing skins (owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com)
11. 09:48 AM - Re: Re:Back riveting wing skins (owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com)
12. 09:50 AM - Re: transponder check cost (Jerry2DT@aol.com)
13. 10:51 AM - Re: RV-6A Crash in Eastern Washington? (Derrick Aubuchon)
14. 11:05 AM - Re: RV-6A Crash in Eastern Washington? (Hull, Don)
15. 11:50 AM - Re: RV-6A Crash in Eastern Washington? (Bob Perkinson)
16. 12:28 PM - Re: RV-6A Crash in Eastern Washington? (Mickey Coggins)
17. 12:58 PM - Alternator Belt tension (Richard Reynolds)
18. 02:53 PM - Double Eagle NM RV Fly-in, 8-9 Oct 2005 (Ron Lee)
19. 03:36 PM - Re: Alternator Belt tension (Dale Ensing)
20. 04:52 PM - Re: Double Eagle NM RV Fly-in, 8-9 Oct 2005 (Brian Denk)
21. 05:28 PM - Cowl Access (Doug Cook)
22. 05:49 PM - Air Dam # 1 Cylinder (jim & terri truitt)
23. 05:59 PM - exhaust wrap (Louis Willig)
24. 06:11 PM - Builders on Maui? (Piavis)
25. 06:29 PM - Re: Cowl Access (Kyle Boatright)
26. 06:43 PM - Re: exhaust wrap (RV6 Flyer)
27. 06:43 PM - Beautiful RV-6 for sale (Doug Weiler)
28. 07:04 PM - Re: Cowl Access (Jeff Orear)
29. 08:14 PM - Re: RV-6A Crash in Eastern Washington? (Jeff Dowling)
30. 08:20 PM - Re: Beautiful RV-6 for sale (Jeff Dowling)
31. 08:48 PM - Re:Back riveting wing skins (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
32. 09:02 PM - VAN`S TACHOMETER PROBLEMS AGAIN (Bruno)
33. 09:54 PM - Re: Beautiful RV-6 for sale (Jerry Springer)
34. 10:09 PM - Re: VAN`S TACHOMETER PROBLEMS AGAIN (Ed Holyoke)
35. 10:19 PM - Re: RV-6A Crash in Eastern Washington? (HCRV6@aol.com)
36. 10:35 PM - Re: Beautiful RV-6 for sale (JOHN STARN)
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| Subject: | RV4 N3074T Crash |
--> RV-List message posted by: WALTER B KERR <jbker@juno.com>
The NTSB preliminary report of theMay 28 crash of this RV4 does not give
much info, but I feel that we should all learn some basic lessons from
this accident.
The pilot left FL37 , Treasure Coast Airpark, to go get fuel at
Indiantown Airport, X58 about 12 miles to the SE. On arrival it is
reported that there were several airplanes in front of him and possibly
the self serve pumps were having a problem.
He departed without fuel and was apparently headed back to FL37 when he
was reported to say over the local 122.9 freq that the engine had
stopped. Someone suggested to him to switch fuel tanks and start the
boost pump. He reported it was running again.
Upon arrival at FL37 it is reported that he did between 2 & 4 touch and
goes and when in a low wide downwind position for 27 the engine started
running ragged and then quit. The position was over a large mature orange
grove and was reported to start a steep bank back to the field when the
prop stopped, ie very low speed to stop prop. The nose fell thru and the
prop restarted windmilling before impact. The pilot suffered severe head
injuries (no buffer on the glare shield) and has been in a coma now for
almost a month. The original report from the hospital said if he came out
of coma within 2 weeks , he would probably fully recover.
I was not at home here at FL37 when this occurred so none of this is
eyewitness reporting, but at least 4 neighbors , all pilots and 2 with
their radios on heard and saw this develop. I think we should all try to
learn from other's accidents and learning from them is the only reason I
post this.
Bernie Kerr, RV9A with 13B rotary 40 hours
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Has anyone with an Rv-4/6 upgraded their brakes with the Cleveland #199-93 kit
and if so, any problems? were the results (stopping) improved?
Thanks
Ed
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
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| Subject: | Re:Back riveting wing skins |
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
Don;
I only back riveted the bottom shins , you can't do both top & bottom. I
wanted the smoothest on the bottom since the higher pressure area might have
higher drag due to dimples,etc.
Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
Charleston,Arkansas
Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
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| Subject: | Re: Back riveting wing skins |
--> RV-List message posted by: "elsa-henry" <elsa-henry@darlor-watch.com>
I was very pleased with the results I got on the top skins of my 6A with the Avery
back rivet set. I used a 3X gun because the large mass of that rivet set tends
to reduce the impact of my 2X gun. (As found out in trial work on scrap).
I wraped the end of the Set with duct tape and maked it for proper orientation.
I also was wary about the depth of the end-bore on it so I ground- off some
of it. I used a plastic spacer made of a scrap of house vinyl siding so I could
firm-up the Set against the wing web as I went along. My wife used Avery's
bucking bar for the honors on the opposite side of the wing. -- Worked GREAT!
Henry Hore
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| Subject: | Re: RV-6A Crash in Eastern Washington? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@al.noaa.gov>
>
>During a telephone interview, the pilot reported that the purpose of
>the flight was to accumulate flight time to satisfy the 40 hour test
>flight requirements for the newly completed aircraft.
A 40 hour fly-off implies an alternative engine. FAA lists the
engine as "reciprocating". More information would be helpful.
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| Subject: | Re: RV4 N3074T Crash |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
If the assumption is that he ran out of gas....what could anyone learn
from this. It is unfortunate but you cannot teach common sense.
People die as a result of flying and always will. A significant portion
of those deaths are and will be due to pilot error. This also applies to
driving, boating, skiing, hiking, etc.
Ron Lee
At 06:22 AM 6/28/2005, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: WALTER B KERR <jbker@juno.com>
>
>
>The NTSB preliminary report of theMay 28 crash of this RV4 does not give
>much info, but I feel that we should all learn some basic lessons from
>this accident.
>
>The pilot left FL37 , Treasure Coast Airpark, to go get fuel at
>Indiantown Airport, X58 about 12 miles to the SE. On arrival it is
>reported that there were several airplanes in front of him and possibly
>the self serve pumps were having a problem.
>
>He departed without fuel and was apparently headed back to FL37 when he
>was reported to say over the local 122.9 freq that the engine had
>stopped. Someone suggested to him to switch fuel tanks and start the
>boost pump. He reported it was running again.
>
>Upon arrival at FL37 it is reported that he did between 2 & 4 touch and
>goes and when in a low wide downwind position for 27 the engine started
>running ragged and then quit. The position was over a large mature orange
>grove and was reported to start a steep bank back to the field when the
>prop stopped, ie very low speed to stop prop. The nose fell thru and the
>prop restarted windmilling before impact. The pilot suffered severe head
>injuries (no buffer on the glare shield) and has been in a coma now for
>almost a month. The original report from the hospital said if he came out
>of coma within 2 weeks , he would probably fully recover.
>
>I was not at home here at FL37 when this occurred so none of this is
>eyewitness reporting, but at least 4 neighbors , all pilots and 2 with
>their radios on heard and saw this develop. I think we should all try to
>learn from other's accidents and learning from them is the only reason I
>post this.
>
>Bernie Kerr, RV9A with 13B rotary 40 hours
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-6A Crash in Eastern Washington? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Bill Dube wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@al.noaa.gov>
>
>
>>During a telephone interview, the pilot reported that the purpose of
>>the flight was to accumulate flight time to satisfy the 40 hour test
>>flight requirements for the newly completed aircraft.
>
>
> A 40 hour fly-off implies an alternative engine. FAA lists the
> engine as "reciprocating". More information would be helpful.
The 40-hour fly-off could also imply several other things:
A Lycoming engine without a Lycoming data plate
One of the Lycoming "clones"
A non-certificated prop (the very common Sensinech fixed-pitch metal
prop for the O-360 fits this description)
A Lycoming with a constant-speed prop that wasn't originally certified
with that particular engine
A DAR who doesn't fully understand the regs (sadly, too common)
There are probably other possibilities that don't come immediately to mind.
Sam Buchanan
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| Subject: | Re: RV-6A Crash in Eastern Washington? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-6A Crash in Eastern Washington? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Folbrecht <paulfolbrecht@yahoo.com>
Actually, it only implies a non-certified engine/prop combo, does it
not? I believe a certified Lyc with a (for example) Catto prop requires
(or normally gets) 40.
do not archive
Bill Dube wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@al.noaa.gov>
>
>
>
>
>>During a telephone interview, the pilot reported that the purpose of
>>the flight was to accumulate flight time to satisfy the 40 hour test
>>flight requirements for the newly completed aircraft.
>>
>>
>
> A 40 hour fly-off implies an alternative engine. FAA lists the
>engine as "reciprocating". More information would be helpful.
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Back riveting wing skins |
--> RV-List message posted by:
Avery now sells 12" straight and double offset back riveting sets with the
plastic spring loaded sleeve around the shank. I ordered these but have not
tried them - looks as though they be very useful in some hard to buck
places.
Michele Delsol
RV8 Fuselage
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Denk
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 7:18 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Back riveting wing skins
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
>
> >
> >
> >I'm beginning to rivet the inboard top skins on my -8 wings. I've begun
> the
> >process using the Avery 12" offset back rivet set. Many of the rivets are
> >very slightly clenched. A few have been drilled out twice because I
> wasn't
> >happy with them andthen replaced with NAS1097 (oops) rivets. Obviously
> this
> >isn't a situation I'm happy with.(I've only donetwo ribs so far) Holding
> >the back rivet set absolutely steady and centered is necessary but I'm
> not
> >sure its worth the trouble. Has anyone else has better luck back riveting
> >the wings? I'm also concerned aboutusing too many oops rivets--so far
> only
> >three or four. I like the improved appearance of the back riveted
> surfaces
> >but not at the cost of decreased strength. Techniques? Opinions?
> >
> >
> > --Tom
>
>
> Opinions? HERE?? Nah, it'll never happen. ;)
>
> I tried backriveting on my -8 wings as well and just didn't find the only
> marginally better surface finish to be worth the trauma of using that
> long,
> slightly bent set. One slip and look out, major ding in the skin. We did
> a
> few ribs with this technique then swapped over to conventional riveting
> with
> a swivel set and never looked back. Now, I have had excellent results
> backriveting other stuff on the RV10, especially the tailcone skins, but
> used the shorter set with the plastic spring loaded sleeve around the
> shank.
> Those work great. The two piece aileron/elevator/flap/rudders on the
> modern era kits are ripe candidates for back riveting on the bench top
> with
> this setup. The depth of the wings makes the use of this smaller, more
> controllable set rather difficult. Maybe others have used it to advantage
> but it wasn't my cup 'o tea.
>
> Brian Denk
> RV8 N94BD
> RV10 '51
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re:Back riveting wing skins |
--> RV-List message posted by:
I did the inboard bottom skins alone the conventional way. It helps to think
things out before starting like start aft and work forward - in the middle
and towards the edges - it also helps to have long skinny arms - no
arthritis. I have not done the outboard skins yet - saving that for much
later on after all electricals and add-ons have been decided upon.
Michele Delsol
RV8 Fuselage
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DonVS
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 5:16 AM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Re:Back riveting wing skins
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "DonVS" <dsvs@comcast.net>
>
> How were you able to do the bottom skins with this setup? Don't the top
> skins get in the way? Don
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> Oldsfolks@aol.com
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Re:Back riveting wing skins
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
>
> I used Avery's 12" back rivet set on my bottom wing skins and on the
> fuselage of our RV-4 and a neighbors RV-6A with very good results.
> I put masking tape on the shank and drew a red line on each side to enable
> me to orient ir properly. I used a flat steel plate ( 1/2" thick ) for
> a
> bucking bar on the outside. When you drive the rivets against a flat
> plate
> they
> just have to be smooth.
>
> Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
> A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
> Charleston,Arkansas
> Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: transponder check cost |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry2DT@aol.com
Pacific Coast Avionics at KUAO just did ours for $70...
Jerry Cochran
Wilsonville, OR
Subject: Re: RV-List: transponder check cost
--> RV-List message posted by: Bob <panamared3@brier.net>
>Does anyone know approximately what it costs to get a
>transponder checked and properly calibrated?
My guy, Randall Hash out of Bluefield WV charges $175. Make an appointment
and he will meet you at the airport, takes about an hour.
Bob
RV6 NightFighter
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| Subject: | Re: RV-6A Crash in Eastern Washington? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Derrick Aubuchon <n184da@volcano.net>
Alternative engine,, or more likely, non certified prop.
On Jun 28, 2005, at 8:12 AM, Bill Dube wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@al.noaa.gov>
>
>
>>
>> During a telephone interview, the pilot reported that the purpose of
>> the flight was to accumulate flight time to satisfy the 40 hour test
>> flight requirements for the newly completed aircraft.
>>
>
> A 40 hour fly-off implies an alternative engine. FAA lists
> the
> engine as "reciprocating". More information would be helpful.
>
>
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| Subject: | RV-6A Crash in Eastern Washington? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Hull, Don" <Donald.C.Hull@nasa.gov>
I am wondering if this accident was caused by the "Van's ID label in the FAB
(filtered air box)" scenario someone else experienced and discussed
recently. It may have been on one of the Yahoo groups. The accident
described here indicates the RV-6A was consumed by fire, so we will probably
never know for sure.
Don Hull
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Diehl
Subject: RV-List: RV-6A Crash in Eastern Washington?
--> RV-List message posted by: Don Diehl <diehldon@comcast.net>
Here's a NTSB report on a crash and burn that I have not seen
discussed on the List.
Perhaps I missed something.
Does anyone have the details?
Don Diehl
RV-4, N28EW
Bremerton WA
Do not archive..
NTSB Identification: SEA05LA118
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Wednesday, June 15, 2005 in Palouse, WA
Aircraft: Rash Vans RV-6A, registration: N330CJ
Injuries: 1 Minor.
This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain
errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final
report has been completed.
On June 15, 2005, about 1710 Pacific daylight time, an experimental
Rash Vans RV-6A, N330CJ, registered to and operated by the pilot as a
14 CFR Part 91 personal flight, experienced a loss of engine power
shortly after liftoff from a private airstrip located about two miles
south of Palouse, Washington. The aircraft subsequently collided with
rising terrain and was destroyed by a post-crash fire. Visual
meteorological conditions prevailed at the time and no flight plan
was filed. The commercial pilot, the sole occupant, received minor
injuries. The flight was departing to Lewiston, Idaho.
During a telephone interview, the pilot reported that the purpose of
the flight was to accumulate flight time to satisfy the 40 hour test
flight requirements for the newly completed aircraft. The aircraft
had accumulated approximately 36 hours at the time of the accident.
The pilot stated that he initially took off from Moscow, Idaho, and
flew various flight maneuvers for about one hour before landing at
the private airstrip south of Palouse. After stopping for dinner, he
then started, taxied and accomplished a run-up before takeoff. The
pilot reported that everything was normal up to this point. During
the takeoff roll from runway 22, the aircraft accelerated, however,
when the aircraft rotated and lifted off, the engine lost partial
power. The pilot continued to fly the aircraft, however, it would not
climb or accelerate and was on the edge of a stall. The aircraft
traveled toward rising terrain, eventually colliding with the ground
about one mile from the airstrip. A post-crash fire consumed the
wreckage.
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| Subject: | RV-6A Crash in Eastern Washington? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Perkinson" <bobperk@bellsouth.net>
If it was consumed by fire he must have had fuel on board. Aluminum doesn't
burn well by itself. There are a multitude of other reasons that would
cause power loss. The group can only speculate until the final report comes
out, and then it may still be speculation.
Bob Perkinson
If nothing changes
Nothing changes
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Hull, Don
Subject: RE: RV-List: RV-6A Crash in Eastern Washington?
--> RV-List message posted by: "Hull, Don" <Donald.C.Hull@nasa.gov>
I am wondering if this accident was caused by the "Van's ID label in the FAB
(filtered air box)" scenario someone else experienced and discussed
recently. It may have been on one of the Yahoo groups. The accident
described here indicates the RV-6A was consumed by fire, so we will probably
never know for sure.
Don Hull
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Diehl
Subject: RV-List: RV-6A Crash in Eastern Washington?
--> RV-List message posted by: Don Diehl <diehldon@comcast.net>
Here's a NTSB report on a crash and burn that I have not seen
discussed on the List.
Perhaps I missed something.
Does anyone have the details?
Don Diehl
RV-4, N28EW
Bremerton WA
Do not archive..
NTSB Identification: SEA05LA118
14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
Accident occurred Wednesday, June 15, 2005 in Palouse, WA
Aircraft: Rash Vans RV-6A, registration: N330CJ
Injuries: 1 Minor.
This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain
errors. Any errors in this report will be corrected when the final
report has been completed.
On June 15, 2005, about 1710 Pacific daylight time, an experimental
Rash Vans RV-6A, N330CJ, registered to and operated by the pilot as a
14 CFR Part 91 personal flight, experienced a loss of engine power
shortly after liftoff from a private airstrip located about two miles
south of Palouse, Washington. The aircraft subsequently collided with
rising terrain and was destroyed by a post-crash fire. Visual
meteorological conditions prevailed at the time and no flight plan
was filed. The commercial pilot, the sole occupant, received minor
injuries. The flight was departing to Lewiston, Idaho.
During a telephone interview, the pilot reported that the purpose of
the flight was to accumulate flight time to satisfy the 40 hour test
flight requirements for the newly completed aircraft. The aircraft
had accumulated approximately 36 hours at the time of the accident.
The pilot stated that he initially took off from Moscow, Idaho, and
flew various flight maneuvers for about one hour before landing at
the private airstrip south of Palouse. After stopping for dinner, he
then started, taxied and accomplished a run-up before takeoff. The
pilot reported that everything was normal up to this point. During
the takeoff roll from runway 22, the aircraft accelerated, however,
when the aircraft rotated and lifted off, the engine lost partial
power. The pilot continued to fly the aircraft, however, it would not
climb or accelerate and was on the edge of a stall. The aircraft
traveled toward rising terrain, eventually colliding with the ground
about one mile from the airstrip. A post-crash fire consumed the
wreckage.
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| Subject: | Re: RV-6A Crash in Eastern Washington? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> If it was consumed by fire he must have had fuel on board. Aluminum doesn't
> burn well by itself. There are a multitude of other reasons that would
> cause power loss. The group can only speculate until the final report comes
> out, and then it may still be speculation.
My impression, based on reading hundreds of NTSB reports, is that if
there are no fatalities, they don't seem to invest as much time
trying to find the cause of a crash. I hope we can learn something
from this crash, and thank goodness there were no fatalities.
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 Canopy
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| Subject: | Alternator Belt tension |
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Reynolds <rvreynolds@macs.net>
In perusing my Lycoming installation drawing for the O-360-A series
(Lycoming Drawing no 04C 63086) the other day, I saw the following note:
Alternator Belt Tension Requirements:
New Belt - mid belt span deflection of .31 (5/16) inches with 14
pounds load
Used Belt - mid belt span deflection of .31 (5/16) inches with 10
pounds load
OR
For a 3/8 inch wide belt:
New Belt - 12 ft-lb to slip the belt at the alternator pulley
Used Belt - 8 ft-lb to slip the belt at the alternator pulley
The torque/slip method seems to be easy to do.
Richard Reynolds
Norfolk, VA
RV-6A flying
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| Subject: | Double Eagle NM RV Fly-in, 8-9 Oct 2005 |
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--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
Double Eagle RV Fly-in
8-9 October 2005
Where: Albuquerque NM Double Eagle II airport (KAEG);
<http://www.airnav.com/airport/KAEG>http://www.airnav.com/airport/KAEG
Fly-in principles: No scheduled events. Nice area with a variety of
events to keep spouses happy. The main attraction is the Balloon
Fiesta that ends this weekend. Intended for a quick weekend getaway.
FBO: Bode
Aero:
<http://www.flybode.com/deairport.htm>http://www.flybode.com/deairport.htm
Airport restaurant: Prop Wash Caf=E9, 505-831-2359
Cost: None. No registration fee. Attendees are responsible for hotel
and car reservations.
Miscellaneous: Bring your own tiedown ropes/straps/etc. Please email
<mailto:ronlee@pcisys.net>ronlee@pcisys.net if you intend to come to
ensure that ramp space does not become a problem.
Aviation issues: Note that the Albuquerque airspace is not far from AEG
(to the east). Mountains are nearby. Density altitude can be high so
understand impact to flight (such as engine mixture leaning and higher
take-off and landing groundspeeds)
Hotels: Many in the Albuquerque area. Those listed below were checked
27-28 June 2005. Strongly suggest making reservations as early as possible.
Hotels listed below in three groups based upon distance from airport (AEG)
and the balloon park. This is nowhere near a complete listing. Another
source for making reservations is
here: <http://www.nmtravel.com/bfres/>http://www.nmtravel.com/bfres/ or
888-398-5537 (Press 2 for reservations). Most prices exclude taxes. In
general I tried to price a single bed (usually king) and two adults
Group 1: Reasonably close to the balloon park on the north end of town (I-25)
Comfort Inn, 5811 Signal Ave NE, Albuquerque, NM 87113, (505) 822-1090, $125
Ramada Limited, 5601 Alameda Blvd NE, Albuquerque, NM 87113, (505)
858-3297, $139
Holiday Inn, 5401 Alameda Blvd NE, Albuquerque, NM 87113, (505) 797-2291, Full
Courtyard, 5151 Journal Center Blvd NE, Albuquerque, NM 87109, (505)
823-1919, $169
Albuquerque Pyramid Marriott, 5151 San Francisco Rd NE, Albuquerque,
NM 87109, (505) 821-3333, $189
Amberly Suite Hotel, 7620 N Pan American Fwy NE, Albuquerque, NM 87109,
(505) 823-1300, $59 (Std), $79 (suite)
Howard Johnson Express Inn, 7630 N Pan American Fwy NE, Albuquerque,
NM 87109, (505) 828-1600, $115
Baymont Inns and Suites, 7439 S Pan American Fwy NE, Albuquerque,
NM 87109, (505) 345-7500, $70
Hampton Inn, 5101 Ellison St NE, Albuquerque, NM 87109, (505) 344-1555, $134
Quality Suites, 5251 San Antonio Dr NE, Albuquerque, NM 87109, (505)
797-0850, Full
La Quinta Inn, 5241 San Antonio Dr NE, Albuquerque, NM 87109, (505)
821-9000, $139
Group 2: Rio Rancho area to NW of Balloon Park (6-7 miles)
Days Inn Rio Rancho, 4200 Crestview Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124, (505)
892-8800, $90
Ramada Limited, 4081 High Resort Blvd SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124, (505)
892-5998, $100 (limited rooms)
Super 8 Rio Rancho, 4100 Barbara Loop SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124, (505)
896-8888, $95
Best Western Inn, 1465 Rio Rancho Blvd SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124, (505)
892-1700, Full
Hilton, 1771 Rio Rancho Blvd SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124, (505) 896-1111, $129
Marriott, 4100 Sara Rd SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124
Group 3: 12 miles from the airport (KAEG) (south of I-40 at Exit 153) and
about 13 miles to the Balloon Park near I-25 exit 233 (north part of
Albuquerque)
La Quinta, 6101 Iliff Rd NW, Albuquerque, NM 87121, (505) 839-1744, $140
Holiday Inn Express- West, 6100 Iliff Rd NW, Albuquerque, NM 87121, (505)
836-8600, $120
Super 8, 6030 Iliff Rd NW=92 Albuquerque, NM 87121, (505) 836-5560, $54
Days Inn =96 Albuquerque West, 6031 Iliff Rd NW, Albuquerque, NM 87121, (505)
836-3297, $89-$99
Comfort Inn West, 5712 Iliff Rd NW, Albuquerque, NM 87105, (505) 836-0011,
$115
Red Roof, 6015 Iliff Rd NW, Albuquerque, NM 87121, (505) 831-3400, $70
Rental Cars: Bode Aero uses Enterprise, 505-922-1440, Midsize $43,
Standard $46, Full $49. Make a reservation to ensure car in there when
you arrive. I have not yet checked other rental car agencies.
Things to do:
1) Balloon
Fiesta: <http://www.balloonfiesta.com/>http://www.balloonfiesta.com/
Saturday night has a balloon glow and fireworks with a mass ascension
Sunday morning. Schedule at
<http://www.balloonfiesta.com/scripts/index/list_events_total.php>http://www.balloonfiesta.com/scripts/index/list_events_total.php
2) Sante Fe is close to the
north. <http://www.airnav.com/airport/KSAF>http://www.airnav.com/airport/KSAF
Sante Fe website at <http://www.santafe.org/>http://www.santafe.org/
3) Petroglyph National
Monument: <http://www.nps.gov/petr/>http://www.nps.gov/petr/
4) Hiking in Albuquerque:
<http://www.localhikes.com/MSA/MSA_0200.asp>http://www.localhikes.com/MSA/MSA_0200.asp
http://www.trails.com/advancedfind.asp?keywordAlbuquerque&stateNM&activities&page1
<http://www.cabq.gov/openspace/lands.html>http://www.cabq.gov/openspace/lands.html
5) Sandia Peak Tram: <http://www.sandiapeak.com/>http://www.sandiapeak.com/
Bike rentals to ride down the mountain.
6) Albuquerque Visitors
Website: <http://www.abqcvb.org/>http://www.abqcvb.org/
Note: Balloon Fiesta is a trademark of the Albuquerque International
Balloon Fiesta, Inc
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| Subject: | Re: Alternator Belt tension |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
Richard Reynolds
Thanks for that very useful bit of info on altn. belt tension. A copy of
your note is now in my engine file.
Dale Ensing
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| Subject: | Double Eagle NM RV Fly-in, 8-9 Oct 2005 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>
> Double Eagle RV Fly-in
> 8-9 October 2005
>
>Where: Albuquerque NM Double Eagle II airport (KAEG);
><http://www.airnav.com/airport/KAEG>http://www.airnav.com/airport/KAEG
>
>Fly-in principles: No scheduled events. Nice area with a variety of
>events to keep spouses happy. The main attraction is the Balloon
>Fiesta that ends this weekend. Intended for a quick weekend getaway.
>
<snip>
Nice information, Ron. I'm based at AEG and plan to be there...as a "drive
in". Well, I suppose I could go up and fly the pattern to make it official.
:)
For any specific questions or concerns, please let me know direct so as not
to load up the matronics server.
The last weekend of the balloon fiesta is usually pretty nice with hotels
opening up in the area. There are limited facilities at the airport for
food, and the small cafe is limited in capacity. So, ground transport will
be necessary if anyone wants to head east into town for eats and drinks.
Keep this in mind or even pack a lunch for those making a short day trip of
it.
Please be aware of flight restrictions around the balloon fiesta. The local
news choppers and Albuquerque Police helo are usually very active and you do
not want to end up on the evening news! The actual no-fly radius is quite
small so it's easy to go around.
That's all I can think of for now.
Brian Denk
RV8 N94BD
RV10 '51
akroguy@hotmail.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Cook" <Dugcook@cox.net>
Has anyone installed a full access cowl like the hinged cowls on the Grumman Tiger?
This looks like it would be easy to do and give great access.
Doug - RV-7A Q-build in progress.
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| Subject: | Air Dam # 1 Cylinder |
--> RV-List message posted by: jim & terri truitt <jimteri1@earthlink.net>
John, Like many, I had the same problem with #3 being the hottest cylinder and,
in my case, #3 topped 400 degrees pretty fast on a hot day climb-out. At times,
in high ambient temps, I could hardly climb 3000 feet before passing 400
degrees on #3, and have to push the nose over. I have an 8A with an O-360 and
the older style exhaust exit in the cowl. The newer 8 cowls have a larger exhaust
area. This exit area affects your flow out of the cowl. Doesn't matter
how much air goes in up top, if it can't get out at the bottom you have poor
efficiency. It's a little more critical in the A models due to the low mounted
center truss for the nose gear.
Anyway, if you have installed your baffels according to Van's plans, as mine were,
I may have an alternate solution. Van's plans tell you to wrap the baffels
tight around the fins.
Master RV and Rocket Builder Vince Frazier told me that on the rear of #3 cylinder
you have "short" cooling fins on the head (it's true). With the baffel wrapped
tightly around the fins, not enough cooling air can get down and through
the fins. Place 2 washers under the baffel mounting screw to open the baffel
up slightly around the rear of #3.
It doesn't take much. I was skeptical, but it worked very well. #1 cylinder is
still the coolest but #3 is no longer the hottest and it takes a lot longer
to reach 400 degrees on climb-out on a hot day. In addition to doing the above
procedure, I cut my cowl exhaust area back 2 inches to open that area up for
increased flow. My #3 used to run up to 60 -80 degrees hotter than #4 in cruise.
Now #3 and #4 are within 10-12 degrees of each other.
Now #2 is my hottest. Why? Cause the "short" fins are on the front side of #2
cylinder and my baffels are wrapped tight around the front of #2. The temp difference
with #2 is not nearly as critical, but I need to address it like I did
#3.
As Vince pointed out to me, all of the cylinders on Lycomings are the same. One
side of the head has deeper cooling fins than the other. On the right side
of your mounted engine (#1 and 3), the "shorter" fins are on the rear side. On
the left side of the engine, the cylinders face the opposite direction so the
"short" fins are facing forward. That's why if your baffels are tightly wrapped,
# 2 and 3 are your hottest.
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--> RV-List message posted by: Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net>
Hi gang,
I just removed the exhaust wrap that was applied by the builder of my RV-4,
IO-360. After nearly 500 hours, the wrap had deteriorated and could be torn
off by hand. I never liked the wrap because I always believed that it might
be hiding underlying problems. BUT, now that it's been removed, I realize
how effective it has been. Since there were no problems found after
removal, I think I will replace it. So, does anyone have a suggestion
concerning the best brand(s) to use and what color to use. All suggestions
will be considered. Thanks.
Louis I Willig
1640 Oakwood Dr.
Penn Valley, PA 19072
610 668-4964
RV-4, N180PF
190HP IO-360, C/S prop
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| Subject: | Builders on Maui? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Piavis" <piavis@pacbell.net>
What's the chance of anyone building on Maui? I may have some spare time
during a vacation next week.
Cheers,
Jim
Jim Piavis
-7 Fuse
http://adap.com/rv7
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Cook" <Dugcook@cox.net>
Subject: RV-List: Cowl Access
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Cook" <Dugcook@cox.net>
>
> Has anyone installed a full access cowl like the hinged cowls on the
> Grumman Tiger? This looks like it would be easy to do and give great
> access.
> Doug - RV-7A Q-build in progress.
I've never seen or heard of one, and I've been in "the community" for 10
years or so. Why not build it per plans? You can remove the entire top
cowl in under 5 minutes, and replacing it doesn't take any longer. Also,
removing 1/2 the cowl gives you tremendous access to the engine. Beyond
that, I bet it would take 10 years of routine under-cowl inspections to make
up the time it would take to build a hinged cowl...
KB
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--> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
Been using the stuff Aircraft Spruce sells since about 50 hours. I leave it
natural in color. I have found that stainless steel hose clamps work best.
Have tried the strap bands sold for the job and safety wire. The hose clamps
do the best job.
I have never wrapped any wield or joint so that these items can be
inspected. When you wrap a join or get a break in the pipe, it will BLOW
through the wrap. I have never had a break in my pipe yet but know on RV-3
with an OLD Toole (spelling) exhaust that did.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,690 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com
----Original Message Follows----
From: Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net>
Subject: RV-List: exhaust wrap
--> RV-List message posted by: Louis Willig <larywil@comcast.net>
Hi gang,
I just removed the exhaust wrap that was applied by the builder of my RV-4,
IO-360. After nearly 500 hours, the wrap had deteriorated and could be torn
off by hand. I never liked the wrap because I always believed that it might
be hiding underlying problems. BUT, now that it's been removed, I realize
how effective it has been. Since there were no problems found after
removal, I think I will replace it. So, does anyone have a suggestion
concerning the best brand(s) to use and what color to use. All suggestions
will be considered. Thanks.
Louis I Willig
1640 Oakwood Dr.
Penn Valley, PA 19072
610 668-4964
RV-4, N180PF
190HP IO-360, C/S prop
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| Subject: | Beautiful RV-6 for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: Doug Weiler <dcw@mnwing.org>
Fellow Listers:
One of our local RV club members has put his RV-6 up for sale. This is a
very nice aircraft, 180 hp, Sensenich prop, only 330 hours TT.
Details are here at our website:
http://www.mnwing.org/ForSale.htm
Thanks
Doug Weiler
Pres, MN Wing
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
Doug:
Gary Newsted, who was instrumental in developing the installation manual for
the Eggenfellner Subaru conversion package has such a cowl.
This is a link to his website....
http://www.eggenfellneraircraft.com/buildercorner/indexframe.html
There is a picture of his airplane with the cowl open, but unfortunately it
is from the rear. Perhaps if you contact him he might be able to send you
some other pictures.
Regards,
Jeff Orear
RV6A N782P (reserved)
finishing up lots of stuff at the airport
Peshtigo, WI
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| Subject: | Re: RV-6A Crash in Eastern Washington? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
A lycoming with a lycoming data plate but also with non certified starter
and alternator.
Shemp/Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
200 hours
Chicago/Louisville
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Buchanan" <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-6A Crash in Eastern Washington?
> --> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
>
> Bill Dube wrote:
>> --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@al.noaa.gov>
>>
>>
>>>During a telephone interview, the pilot reported that the purpose of
>>>the flight was to accumulate flight time to satisfy the 40 hour test
>>>flight requirements for the newly completed aircraft.
>>
>>
>> A 40 hour fly-off implies an alternative engine. FAA lists the
>> engine as "reciprocating". More information would be helpful.
>
>
> The 40-hour fly-off could also imply several other things:
>
> A Lycoming engine without a Lycoming data plate
>
> One of the Lycoming "clones"
>
> A non-certificated prop (the very common Sensinech fixed-pitch metal
> prop for the O-360 fits this description)
>
> A Lycoming with a constant-speed prop that wasn't originally certified
> with that particular engine
>
> A DAR who doesn't fully understand the regs (sadly, too common)
>
> There are probably other possibilities that don't come immediately to
> mind.
>
> Sam Buchanan
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Beautiful RV-6 for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
Very pretty but awfully expensive for a vfr a/c.
Shemp
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Weiler" <dcw@mnwing.org>
Subject: RV-List: Beautiful RV-6 for sale
> --> RV-List message posted by: Doug Weiler <dcw@mnwing.org>
>
> Fellow Listers:
>
> One of our local RV club members has put his RV-6 up for sale. This is a
> very nice aircraft, 180 hp, Sensenich prop, only 330 hours TT.
>
> Details are here at our website:
>
> http://www.mnwing.org/ForSale.htm
>
> Thanks
>
> Doug Weiler
> Pres, MN Wing
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re:Back riveting wing skins |
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
Don;
I installed the bottom skins first so that I could back rivet them.
As I said - I wanted the bottom skins as smooth as possible to forestall
performance loss due to higher pressure on the bottom.
Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
Charleston,Arkansas
Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
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| Subject: | VAN`S TACHOMETER PROBLEMS AGAIN |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bruno <rv4@videotron.ca>
Hello All
Today my new Van=92s tachometer quit on me again. Last time I
change the transducer (Good service from Van=92s by the way) but today to be
honest I=92m not really sure what could be the problem. I tried a new gauge
with the same results. Next I=92ll try a new transducer again=85??/ Any
suggestions??
Also what do you guys think of the Electronics International Tachometer that
Van=92s sell?? Are they worth the money? Or do you guys know of any other good
2 =BC size tachometer out there??
Thank you for your time
Bruno Dionne
C-GDBH RV-4
Rv4@videotron.ca
P.s# you may respond off list if you wish.
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| Subject: | Re: Beautiful RV-6 for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@comcast.net>
Jeff Dowling wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
>
>Very pretty but awfully expensive for a vfr a/c.
>
>Shemp
>
>
>
Not true, it is WELL within the price range, infact if that airplane is
as nice as the description and
pictures depict it is a good deal.
Jerry
do not archive
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| Subject: | VAN`S TACHOMETER PROBLEMS AGAIN |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" <bicyclop@pacbell.net>
Hi Bruno,
I'm flying behind an EI tach and I like it fine. It's kinda nice to have
both graphical (lights) and digital displays. When you get to redline
RPM, it flashes a red light to get your attention. We've got a magneto
and Lightspeed electronic and the tach is hooked to the mag. When you
turn off the CDI, you can read the drop, but with the mag off, the
display goes blank. I don't know if there's a way around that one. It
keeps track of tach time, but be aware that it is substantially less
than Hobbs time at least on our O-320 and Sensinitch which is redlined
at 2600. YMMV
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bruno
Subject: RV-List: VAN`S TACHOMETER PROBLEMS AGAIN
--> RV-List message posted by: Bruno <rv4@videotron.ca>
Hello All
Today my new Van=92s tachometer quit on me again. Last
time I
change the transducer (Good service from Van=92s by the way) but today
to be
honest I=92m not really sure what could be the problem. I tried a new
gauge
with the same results. Next I=92ll try a new transducer again=85??/ Any
suggestions??
Also what do you guys think of the Electronics International Tachometer
that
Van=92s sell?? Are they worth the money? Or do you guys know of any
other good
2 =BC size tachometer out there??
Thank you for your time
Bruno Dionne
C-GDBH RV-4
Rv4@videotron.ca
P.s# you may respond off list if you wish.
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| Subject: | Re: RV-6A Crash in Eastern Washington? |
--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
In a message dated 6/28/05 8:15:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
bdube@al.noaa.gov writes:
> A 40 hour fly-off implies an alternative engine. FAA lists the
> engine as "reciprocating". More information would be helpful
>
> Or a non certified propeller. Either one, or both, as well as an
> alternative engine gets a 40 hour test period.
>
>
Harry Crosby
RV-6 N16CX, Certified Lycosaur with Catto prop (40 hour test period).
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| Subject: | Re: Beautiful RV-6 for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Go back to this site & look at the one for sale at the bottom of the
site.......... KABONG Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Beautiful RV-6 for sale
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling"
> <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
>
> Very pretty but awfully expensive for a vfr a/c.
>
> Shemp
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug Weiler" <dcw@mnwing.org>
> To: "RV List" <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Beautiful RV-6 for sale
>
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: Doug Weiler <dcw@mnwing.org>
>>
>> Fellow Listers:
>>
>> One of our local RV club members has put his RV-6 up for sale. This is a
>> very nice aircraft, 180 hp, Sensenich prop, only 330 hours TT.
>>
>> Details are here at our website:
>>
>> http://www.mnwing.org/ForSale.htm
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Doug Weiler
>> Pres, MN Wing
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