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1. 01:24 AM - cutting out wheel pants (Sportypilot)
2. 03:41 AM - Crate for Completed RV-7 Tail Needed (M. Orr)
3. 04:19 AM - Re: Crate for Completed RV-7 Tail Needed (Richard Bibb)
4. 04:26 AM - Re: Carb Heat (Dale Ensing)
5. 05:18 AM - Fastback Super 8 (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
6. 05:35 AM - Fastback RV8 (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
7. 06:03 AM - Re: acoustical and thremal insuluation (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
8. 06:57 AM - Re: Fastback RV8 (JOHN STARN)
9. 06:58 AM - Re: acoustical and thremal insuluation (Marty)
10. 07:28 AM - Re: acoustical and thremal insuluation (Tim Bryan)
11. 08:10 AM - Baffle seal at front (George Inman)
12. 08:19 AM - Re: acoustical and thremal insuluation (Scott Bilinski)
13. 08:24 AM - Re: Baffle seal at front (Tim Bryan)
14. 08:33 AM - Fastback RV8 - Personal note on Company (Larry Olson)
15. 08:46 AM - Re: Fastback RV8 (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
16. 08:50 AM - Re: acoustical and thermal insuluation (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
17. 09:12 AM - Re: Baffle seal at front (Walter Tondu)
18. 09:52 AM - Re: Carb Heat (HCRV6@aol.com)
19. 10:50 AM - Re: Fastback RV8 (Tracy Crook)
20. 11:31 AM - Re: acoustical and thremal insuluation (Vincent Himsl)
21. 12:59 PM - Re: Carb Heat (GMC)
22. 01:46 PM - Re: Carb Heat (Tim Bryan)
23. 01:50 PM - Re: Crate for Completed RV-7 Tail Needed (M. Orr)
24. 02:03 PM - Re: acoustical and thremal insuluation (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
25. 02:05 PM - Dragging Brakes (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
26. 02:38 PM - Re: Crate for Completed RV-7 Tail Needed (Mickey Coggins)
27. 03:28 PM - Re: Dragging Brakes (Robert E. Lynch)
28. 03:41 PM - Re: Carb Heat (John Danielson)
29. 04:06 PM - Re: Carb Heat (Tim Bryan)
30. 06:45 PM - EGT/ CHT Gauges (Vic Jacko)
31. 07:37 PM - Re: EGT/ CHT Gauges (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
32. 07:54 PM - Re: EGT/ CHT Gauges (Larry Pardue)
33. 10:08 PM - Re: acoustical and thermal insuluation (Greg Grigson)
34. 10:22 PM - Re: cutting out wheel pants (Greg Grigson)
35. 11:06 PM - How are you keeping the water out of an RV6/7 "Tip-Up"???? (James E. Clark)
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| Subject: | cutting out wheel pants |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Sportypilot" <sportypilot@stx.rr.com>
I got the gear on and have been trying to figure out how not to make a
mistake on cutting out the rear portion of
the wheel pant to get it over the tire so i can mark the cut out for the
gear leg.. what did you guys start with on the
size hole or end with so I can cut it once and the fit the side for the
leg.. then I can find where to drill the holes for
the attach brackets.. I have the leg fairings cut out and clamped at the top
but the next step to get the wheel pants on
so I can start with the clay.. any help email or otherwise.. would be
awesome..
thnks in advance..
Danny..
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| Subject: | Crate for Completed RV-7 Tail Needed |
--> RV-List message posted by: "M. Orr" <morr@vt.edu>
I am relocating and need a crate for a completed RV-7 tail. If there is
anyone near Dayton, Ohio or near Roanoke, VA that has shipping crates
from a RV tail completion workshop, that they would be willing to part
with, please contact me off-list.
Does anyone have dimensions and weight of tail shipping crates so that I
can get a quote from my moving company or a freight provider?
Thanks!
Matt
RV -7 Tail done and waiting on a new workshop
Smith Miniplane Project (For Sale)
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| Subject: | Re: Crate for Completed RV-7 Tail Needed |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Bibb" <rebibb@comcast.net>
hmm- got a tape measure? Bathroom Scale?
> Does anyone have dimensions and weight of tail shipping crates so that I
> can get a quote from my moving company or a freight provider?
>
> Thanks!
> Matt
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
George in BC
Regarding RPM drop....
If you are using Vans set up on the airbox, not all of the inlet air is
coming thru the 2 in. SCAT tubing from the heat muff. The mounting for the 2
in. SCAT nipple on the air box allows for bypass air which is pulled from
the immediate area around the front of the airbox. My RPM drop is never as
much when the engine area is relatively cool soon after first start up verus
a restart when the engine is hot from a recent flight. I attribute this to
the air temp of that bypass air.
Dale in NC
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| Subject: | Fastback Super 8 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
I was just whizzing through some photos of Arlington and there is an RV
Super 8, fastback, tip over io-540 plane with dual Cheltons and a neat
paint job.
Registry shows it belonging to Don SCHMIESING of Washington State. WOW
what an airplane! Those pics really get me going to finish!
Those pics really had me going for a while. "Hey that's a Rocket...
Nooooo, an RV.... No a Harmon..... Nooo wait... that's an 8...definitely
an RV 8... I think... Crap what is it? .." Very cool. I love it when as
a repeat offender cant tell what it is till I look at 9 pictures. Now
that's a builder putting in everything he loves into one plane. I want
to shake his hand. Great style and detail. He had to win something
there.
http://members8.clubphoto.com/tim880012/3430373/guest.phtml
There is a picture there of a pin-up board with details of the plane.
Anyone got a real good shot if that board they could send me?
I want to know more about this plane!!
Enjoy,
Mike
S8 paint
Do not archive
http://www.mstewart.net/super8/
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
OK more poking around and I have run across more detail of the mod. How
did I not know about this?
Good grief!
This really looks great.
What is the matter with you people? Don't let these little gems of
information get by without letting us know.
You are all fired. I would have done this had I known about it.
And he has a honker engine. 330hp! Wow.
Maybe Ill just start over.
Mike
http://showplanes.com/index_800.htm
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| Subject: | acoustical and thremal insuluation |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Here is something I have been considering. http://www.quietcoat.com I don't remember where I found it but it looks very interesting and should be much lighter than the usual asphalt mats. Anyone have any experience with it?
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Emp Assembly
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Grigson
Subject: Re: RV-List: acoustical and thremal insuluation
--> RV-List message posted by: Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com>
So... any suggestions on good adhesives or attachment methods for the black foam
soundproofing. What are your thoughts on 3M Super Weatherstrip Adhesive aka
"Camel Snot"?
Greg in Honolulu
--- Kyle Boatright <kboatright1@comcast.net> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright"
> <kboatright1@comcast.net>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karen and Robert Brown"
> <bkbrown@ashcreekwireless.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: acoustical and thremal insuluation
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Karen and Robert
> Brown"
> > <bkbrown@ashcreekwireless.com>
> >
> > Aircraft Spruce has a free booklet (p/n 09-42755)
> in their catalog that
> > discusses the details of insulating an aircraft,
> giving several options.
> > I'd recommend starting there. On my 7A, I used
> the sandwich technique
> > described in the book and made templates to fit
> each area of skin in the
> > airplane. These sandwiches are foam/aluminum
> foil/foam, put together with
> > spray on contact cement. I will have about 2" of
> this material (3 or 4
> > sandwiches) on the firewall, about 1" everywhere
> else. I put it on all
> > metal surfaces that are not occupied with
> something else, including
> > subpanel areas, behind the baggage bulkhead and
> areas in the tail. Total
> > weight to the airplane is about 10 pounds. I used
> the 1/4" "Super
> > Soundproofing Sheet" foam from Spruce (p/n 42720).
> That makes one
> > "sandwich" a little thicker than 1/2" once the
> foil is put in. I've
> > sprayed contact cement lightly to the aluminum to
> attach these. You can
> > still rip em out if you want to, but they are
> attached more pe!
> > rmanently than velcro. The plane isn't flying
> yet, but there is an
> > incredible difference just being inside it and
> working...it's like a sound
> > studio.
> >
> > Bob Brown
> > RV7A - wingtip lights/waiting on engine
>
> Bob,
>
> You may want to investigate some other attachment
> method than spray on
> contact adhesive. My experience is that it does not
> hold up well against
> the firewall. In fact, I've re-attached the
> insulation on my RV-6 firewall
> a couple of times over the course of 300 and
> something flight hours.
> Standing on my head in the footwell re-attaching
> insulation ranks about a 10
> on the misery index...
>
> KB
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fastback RV8 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Would appear that someone else has re-invented the whee.............err HRII
Rocket....again. 330HP IO-360 ??, are the wings clipped too, larger tanks
for all the extra HP. NO. Great looking airplane and as Van's has said in
the past of the HRII it's a "derivative" RV. More input needed, went to the
site noted, need input. Great looking canopy frame. Is there an HRII canopy
& frame in the future ? KABONG (GBA & GWB)
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Subject: RV-List: Fastback RV8
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
> <mstewart@iss.net>
>
> OK more poking around and I have run across more detail of the mod. How
> did I not know about this?
>
> Good grief!
>
> This really looks great.
>
> What is the matter with you people? Don't let these little gems of
> information get by without letting us know.
> You are all fired. I would have done this had I known about it.
> And he has a honker engine. 330hp! Wow.
> Maybe Ill just start over.
>
>
> Mike
>
> http://showplanes.com/index_800.htm
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| Subject: | acoustical and thremal insuluation |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Marty" <martorious@earthlink.net>
|-----Original Message-----
|From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
|server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
|Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:58 AM
|To: rv-list@matronics.com
|Subject: RE: RV-List: acoustical and thremal insuluation
|
|--> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)"
|<rvbuilder@sausen.net>
|
| Here is something I have been considering. http://www.quietcoat.com
|I don't remember where I found it but it looks very interesting and
|should be much lighter than the usual asphalt mats. Anyone have any
|experience with it?
|
|Michael Sausen
|-10 #352 Emp Assembly
I'd be interested in seeing some burn data on this. I looked on the
website but couldn't find it mentioned anywhere. I'm interested in
quieting the plane as much as anyone, but I think I'm more paranoid of
adding fuel to the fire, as it were.
Marty in Indiana
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| Subject: | Re: acoustical and thremal insuluation |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
Greg,
If you are talking the spray on stuff, that is what Abey at flightline
interiors recommends. Not sure about the black foam soundproofing though
What is it? I am looking for something myself to put under my upholstry.
Tim
RV-6
-------Original Message-------
From: Greg Grigson
Subject: Re: RV-List: acoustical and thremal insuluation
--> RV-List message posted by: Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com>
So... any suggestions on good adhesives or attachment
methods for the black foam soundproofing. What are
your thoughts on 3M Super Weatherstrip Adhesive aka
"Camel Snot"?
Greg in Honolulu
--- Kyle Boatright <kboatright1@comcast.net> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright"
> <kboatright1@comcast.net>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karen and Robert Brown"
> <bkbrown@ashcreekwireless.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: acoustical and thremal
> insuluation
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Karen and Robert
> Brown"
> > <bkbrown@ashcreekwireless.com>
> >
> > Aircraft Spruce has a free booklet (p/n 09-42755)
> in their catalog that
> > discusses the details of insulating an aircraft,
> giving several options.
> > I'd recommend starting there. On my 7A, I used
> the sandwich technique
> > described in the book and made templates to fit
> each area of skin in the
> > airplane. These sandwiches are foam/aluminum
> foil/foam, put together with
> > spray on contact cement. I will have about 2" of
> this material (3 or 4
> > sandwiches) on the firewall, about 1" everywhere
> else. I put it on all
> > metal surfaces that are not occupied with
> something else, including
> > subpanel areas, behind the baggage bulkhead and
> areas in the tail. Total
> > weight to the airplane is about 10 pounds. I used
> the 1/4" "Super
> > Soundproofing Sheet" foam from Spruce (p/n 42720).
> That makes one
> > "sandwich" a little thicker than 1/2" once the
> foil is put in. I've
> > sprayed contact cement lightly to the aluminum to
> attach these. You can
> > still rip em out if you want to, but they are
> attached more pe!
> > rmanently than velcro. The plane isn't flying
> yet, but there is an
> > incredible difference just being inside it and
> working...it's like a sound
> > studio.
> >
> > Bob Brown
> > RV7A - wingtip lights/waiting on engine
>
> Bob,
>
> You may want to investigate some other attachment
> method than spray on
> contact adhesive. My experience is that it does not
> hold up well against
> the firewall. In fact, I've re-attached the
> insulation on my RV-6 firewall
> a couple of times over the course of 300 and
> something flight hours.
> Standing on my head in the footwell re-attaching
> insulation ranks about a 10
> on the misery index...
>
> KB
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
>
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| Subject: | Baffle seal at front |
--> RV-List message posted by: "George Inman" <ghinman@mts.net>
Does anyone have good pictures
of how the baffle seal fits at the front cowl
inlets?
GEORGE H. INMAN
ghinman@mts.net
CELL 204 799 7062
HOME 204 287 8334
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| Subject: | Re: acoustical and thremal insuluation |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
I had a bad experience with foam inside a race car years ago. The foam
started smoking, and I started choking on the fumes. There was never a
fire, and I am pretty sure the fumes would have taken me out first.
At 07:24 AM 7/13/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
>
>Greg,
>If you are talking the spray on stuff, that is what Abey at flightline
>interiors recommends. Not sure about the black foam soundproofing though
>What is it? I am looking for something myself to put under my upholstry.
>
>Tim
>RV-6
>
>-------Original Message-------
>
>From: Greg Grigson
>Date: 07/12/05 23:36:54
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: acoustical and thremal insuluation
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com>
>
>So... any suggestions on good adhesives or attachment
>methods for the black foam soundproofing. What are
>your thoughts on 3M Super Weatherstrip Adhesive aka
>"Camel Snot"?
>
>Greg in Honolulu
>
>
>--- Kyle Boatright <kboatright1@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright"
> > <kboatright1@comcast.net>
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Karen and Robert Brown"
> > <bkbrown@ashcreekwireless.com>
> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: RV-List: acoustical and thremal
> > insuluation
> >
> >
> > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Karen and Robert
> > Brown"
> > > <bkbrown@ashcreekwireless.com>
> > >
> > > Aircraft Spruce has a free booklet (p/n 09-42755)
> > in their catalog that
> > > discusses the details of insulating an aircraft,
> > giving several options.
> > > I'd recommend starting there. On my 7A, I used
> > the sandwich technique
> > > described in the book and made templates to fit
> > each area of skin in the
> > > airplane. These sandwiches are foam/aluminum
> > foil/foam, put together with
> > > spray on contact cement. I will have about 2" of
> > this material (3 or 4
> > > sandwiches) on the firewall, about 1" everywhere
> > else. I put it on all
> > > metal surfaces that are not occupied with
> > something else, including
> > > subpanel areas, behind the baggage bulkhead and
> > areas in the tail. Total
> > > weight to the airplane is about 10 pounds. I used
> > the 1/4" "Super
> > > Soundproofing Sheet" foam from Spruce (p/n 42720).
> > That makes one
> > > "sandwich" a little thicker than 1/2" once the
> > foil is put in. I've
> > > sprayed contact cement lightly to the aluminum to
> > attach these. You can
> > > still rip em out if you want to, but they are
> > attached more pe!
> > > rmanently than velcro. The plane isn't flying
> > yet, but there is an
> > > incredible difference just being inside it and
> > working...it's like a sound
> > > studio.
> > >
> > > Bob Brown
> > > RV7A - wingtip lights/waiting on engine
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > You may want to investigate some other attachment
> > method than spray on
> > contact adhesive. My experience is that it does not
> > hold up well against
> > the firewall. In fact, I've re-attached the
> > insulation on my RV-6 firewall
> > a couple of times over the course of 300 and
> > something flight hours.
> > Standing on my head in the footwell re-attaching
> > insulation ranks about a 10
> > on the misery index...
> >
> > KB
> >
> >
> > browse
> > Subscriptions page,
> > FAQ,
> >
> >
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: Baffle seal at front |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
Great Question, I need this also. Thanks for asking
Tim
RV-6
DNA
-------Original Message-------
From: George Inman
Subject: RV-List: Baffle seal at front
--> RV-List message posted by: "George Inman" <ghinman@mts.net>
Does anyone have good pictures
of how the baffle seal fits at the front cowl
inlets?
GEORGE H. INMAN
ghinman@mts.net
CELL 204 799 7062
HOME 204 287 8334
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| Subject: | Fastback RV8 - Personal note on Company |
--> RV-List message posted by: Larry Olson <lolson22@cox.net>
Just a quick note on the company that makes those conversions.
They are top notch guys.
Returning from the NW to Phoenix last week, the alternator in my RV6
died. I landed at the Medford airport to evaluate my situation. The guys
at Medford Air (the FBO - also real good people) suggested that I talk to
"the local RV guys" Brian and Butch Milani (Show Planes) They allowed
me to use their tools and hangar to do my repairs AND Butch lent me
an alternator to use to get home. HOW COOL
Good company. Good people. Important in my book.
Larry Olson
RV6 DVT
At 06:53 AM 7/13/2005, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
>
>Would appear that someone else has re-invented the whee.............err HRII
>Rocket....again. 330HP IO-360 ??, are the wings clipped too, larger tanks
>for all the extra HP. NO. Great looking airplane and as Van's has said in
>the past of the HRII it's a "derivative" RV. More input needed, went to the
>site noted, need input. Great looking canopy frame. Is there an HRII canopy
>& frame in the future ? KABONG (GBA & GWB)
>Do Not Archive
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Fastback RV8
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
> > <mstewart@iss.net>
> >
> > OK more poking around and I have run across more detail of the mod. How
> > did I not know about this?
> >
> > Good grief!
> >
> > This really looks great.
> >
> > What is the matter with you people? Don't let these little gems of
> > information get by without letting us know.
> > You are all fired. I would have done this had I known about it.
> > And he has a honker engine. 330hp! Wow.
> > Maybe Ill just start over.
> >
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > http://showplanes.com/index_800.htm
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
No this is an RV-8, Fastback Mod, IO-540 330hp.
Found these links.
http://www.eaa326.org/Newsletters/eaa326-7-2005.pdf
http://members8.clubphoto.com/tim880012/3430373/guest.phtml
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JOHN STARN
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fastback RV8
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Would appear that someone else has re-invented the whee.............err
HRII
Rocket....again. 330HP IO-360 ??, are the wings clipped too, larger
tanks
for all the extra HP. NO. Great looking airplane and as Van's has said
in
the past of the HRII it's a "derivative" RV. More input needed, went to
the
site noted, need input. Great looking canopy frame. Is there an HRII
canopy
& frame in the future ? KABONG (GBA & GWB)
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Subject: RV-List: Fastback RV8
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
> <mstewart@iss.net>
>
> OK more poking around and I have run across more detail of the mod.
How
> did I not know about this?
>
> Good grief!
>
> This really looks great.
>
> What is the matter with you people? Don't let these little gems of
> information get by without letting us know.
> You are all fired. I would have done this had I known about it.
> And he has a honker engine. 330hp! Wow.
> Maybe Ill just start over.
>
>
> Mike
>
> http://showplanes.com/index_800.htm
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| Subject: | acoustical and thermal insuluation |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
I'm guessing the black foam Greg is referring to is probably the standard auto
soundproofing asphalt mats. They do the job but are also quite heavy which
is what makes them work so well. They usually go by the trade names Dynamat or
Fatmat and can get expensive.
They are real big in the auto sound world.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Emp Assembly
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Bryan
Subject: Re: RV-List: acoustical and thremal insuluation
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
Greg,
If you are talking the spray on stuff, that is what Abey at flightline interiors
recommends. Not sure about the black foam soundproofing though What is it?
I am looking for something myself to put under my upholstry.
Tim
RV-6
-------Original Message-------
From: Greg Grigson
Subject: Re: RV-List: acoustical and thremal insuluation
--> RV-List message posted by: Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com>
So... any suggestions on good adhesives or attachment methods for the black foam
soundproofing. What are your thoughts on 3M Super Weatherstrip Adhesive aka
"Camel Snot"?
Greg in Honolulu
--- Kyle Boatright <kboatright1@comcast.net> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright"
> <kboatright1@comcast.net>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karen and Robert Brown"
> <bkbrown@ashcreekwireless.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: acoustical and thremal insuluation
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Karen and Robert
> Brown"
> > <bkbrown@ashcreekwireless.com>
> >
> > Aircraft Spruce has a free booklet (p/n 09-42755)
> in their catalog that
> > discusses the details of insulating an aircraft,
> giving several options.
> > I'd recommend starting there. On my 7A, I used
> the sandwich technique
> > described in the book and made templates to fit
> each area of skin in the
> > airplane. These sandwiches are foam/aluminum
> foil/foam, put together with
> > spray on contact cement. I will have about 2" of
> this material (3 or 4
> > sandwiches) on the firewall, about 1" everywhere
> else. I put it on all
> > metal surfaces that are not occupied with
> something else, including
> > subpanel areas, behind the baggage bulkhead and
> areas in the tail. Total
> > weight to the airplane is about 10 pounds. I used
> the 1/4" "Super
> > Soundproofing Sheet" foam from Spruce (p/n 42720).
> That makes one
> > "sandwich" a little thicker than 1/2" once the
> foil is put in. I've
> > sprayed contact cement lightly to the aluminum to
> attach these. You can
> > still rip em out if you want to, but they are
> attached more pe!
> > rmanently than velcro. The plane isn't flying
> yet, but there is an
> > incredible difference just being inside it and
> working...it's like a sound
> > studio.
> >
> > Bob Brown
> > RV7A - wingtip lights/waiting on engine
>
> Bob,
>
> You may want to investigate some other attachment
> method than spray on
> contact adhesive. My experience is that it does not
> hold up well against
> the firewall. In fact, I've re-attached the
> insulation on my RV-6 firewall
> a couple of times over the course of 300 and
> something flight hours.
> Standing on my head in the footwell re-attaching
> insulation ranks about a 10
> on the misery index...
>
> KB
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Baffle seal at front |
--> RV-List message posted by: Walter Tondu <walter@tondu.com>
On 07/13 9:58, George Inman wrote:
> Does anyone have good pictures
> of how the baffle seal fits at the front cowl
> inlets?
See entry dated 1/15/05.
http://rv7-a.com/baffling.htm
--
Walter Tondu
http://www.rv7-a.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
Bert: I have the carb heat rig that Van's sells and a Grand Rapids EIS
with a carb heat probe. With carb heat full on I normally see about a 20 RPM
drop and maybe 10 to 15 degree F increase in Carb air temp at the most. On the
plus side, the carb air temp always runs at least 25 or 30 degrees F higher
than ambient and I have never seen it less than around 60 degree F once the
engine is warmed up.
Harry Crosby
RV-6 N16CX, 112 hours
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| Subject: | Re: Fastback RV8 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
Poop, My 300 HP Rotary RV-8 is upstaged before it even flies.... At least my
wingspan is bigger! (26 ft)
Tracy
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net<mailto:mstewart@iss.net>>
No this is an RV-8, Fastback Mod, IO-540 330hp.
Found these links.
http://www.eaa326.org/Newsletters/eaa326-7-2005.pdf<http://www.eaa326.org/Newsletters/eaa326-7-2005.pdf>
http://members8.clubphoto.com/tim880012/3430373/guest.phtml<http://members8.clubphoto.com/tim880012/3430373/guest.phtml>
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com>
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JOHN STARN
To: rv-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fastback RV8
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net<mailto:jhstarn@verizon.net>>
Would appear that someone else has re-invented the whee.............err
HRII
Rocket....again. 330HP IO-360 ??, are the wings clipped too, larger
tanks
for all the extra HP. NO. Great looking airplane and as Van's has said
in
the past of the HRII it's a "derivative" RV. More input needed, went to
the
site noted, need input. Great looking canopy frame. Is there an HRII
canopy
& frame in the future ? KABONG (GBA & GWB)
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net<mailto:mstewart@iss.net>>
To: <rv-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>>
Subject: RV-List: Fastback RV8
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
> <mstewart@iss.net<mailto:mstewart@iss.net>>
>
> OK more poking around and I have run across more detail of the mod.
How
> did I not know about this?
>
> Good grief!
>
> This really looks great.
>
> What is the matter with you people? Don't let these little gems of
> information get by without letting us know.
> You are all fired. I would have done this had I known about it.
> And he has a honker engine. 330hp! Wow.
> Maybe Ill just start over.
>
>
> Mike
>
> http://showplanes.com/index_800.htm<http://showplanes.com/index_800.htm>
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| Subject: | acoustical and thremal insuluation |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Vincent Himsl" <vhimsl@turbonet.com>
Hello,
There is a complete article on using and installing the super sound proof
foam. You can order it free from Aircraft Spruce (09-42755 HOW TO SOUNDPROOF
LIGHT A/C) or download it online
http://www.soundproofing.org/infopages/soundprf.html
I found it to be very helpful and informative. It talks about the glue and
how you should spot it on rather than layer it on completely as you 'will'
someday need to remove the soundproofing for whatever reason.
I have the floor of my RV8 covered with the super stuff and just by tapping
on the outside of the fuselage above and below it, you can really tell the
difference. However several builders, now flying (archives), are of the
opinion that noise canceling headsets make the most difference.
Regards,
Vince Himsl RV8-VSB Finish
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Grigson
Subject: Re: RV-List: acoustical and thremal insuluation
--> RV-List message posted by: Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com>
So... any suggestions on good adhesives or attachment
methods for the black foam soundproofing. What are
your thoughts on 3M Super Weatherstrip Adhesive aka
"Camel Snot"?
Greg in Honolulu
--- Kyle Boatright <kboatright1@comcast.net> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright"
> <kboatright1@comcast.net>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karen and Robert Brown"
> <bkbrown@ashcreekwireless.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: acoustical and thremal
> insuluation
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Karen and Robert
> Brown"
> > <bkbrown@ashcreekwireless.com>
> >
> > Aircraft Spruce has a free booklet (p/n 09-42755)
> in their catalog that
> > discusses the details of insulating an aircraft,
> giving several options.
> > I'd recommend starting there. On my 7A, I used
> the sandwich technique
> > described in the book and made templates to fit
> each area of skin in the
> > airplane. These sandwiches are foam/aluminum
> foil/foam, put together with
> > spray on contact cement. I will have about 2" of
> this material (3 or 4
> > sandwiches) on the firewall, about 1" everywhere
> else. I put it on all
> > metal surfaces that are not occupied with
> something else, including
> > subpanel areas, behind the baggage bulkhead and
> areas in the tail. Total
> > weight to the airplane is about 10 pounds. I used
> the 1/4" "Super
> > Soundproofing Sheet" foam from Spruce (p/n 42720).
> That makes one
> > "sandwich" a little thicker than 1/2" once the
> foil is put in. I've
> > sprayed contact cement lightly to the aluminum to
> attach these. You can
> > still rip em out if you want to, but they are
> attached more pe!
> > rmanently than velcro. The plane isn't flying
> yet, but there is an
> > incredible difference just being inside it and
> working...it's like a sound
> > studio.
> >
> > Bob Brown
> > RV7A - wingtip lights/waiting on engine
>
> Bob,
>
> You may want to investigate some other attachment
> method than spray on
> contact adhesive. My experience is that it does not
> hold up well against
> the firewall. In fact, I've re-attached the
> insulation on my RV-6 firewall
> a couple of times over the course of 300 and
> something flight hours.
> Standing on my head in the footwell re-attaching
> insulation ranks about a 10
> on the misery index...
>
> KB
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: GMC <gmcnutt@shaw.ca>
Hi Dale
Yes you are right. I forgot about that raised standoff area that allows
cooler bypass air in. On the advice of others I had eliminated the
standoff for the scat tube flange when building and my aircraft has been
breathing warm air only through the scat tube (now increased in size).
Do you have any numbers on carb air temperature rise with your setup.
George in Langley BC
do not archive
Dale Ensing wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
>
>George in BC
>Regarding RPM drop....
>If you are using Vans set up on the airbox, not all of the inlet air is
>coming thru the 2 in. SCAT tubing from the heat muff. The mounting for the 2
>in. SCAT nipple on the air box allows for bypass air which is pulled from
>the immediate area around the front of the airbox. My RPM drop is never as
>much when the engine area is relatively cool soon after first start up verus
>a restart when the engine is hot from a recent flight. I attribute this to
>the air temp of that bypass air.
>Dale in NC
>
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
This is getting my attention now. I wondered why the standoff allowed
unheated air in so I blocked most of the opening around the standoff. Do
you think there would not be enough volume via the standard scat tube?
Maybe I should remove my block offs.
Tim
RV-6
-------Original Message-------
From: GMC
Subject: Re: RV-List: Carb Heat
--> RV-List message posted by: GMC <gmcnutt@shaw.ca>
Hi Dale
Yes you are right. I forgot about that raised standoff area that allows
cooler bypass air in. On the advice of others I had eliminated the
standoff for the scat tube flange when building and my aircraft has been
breathing warm air only through the scat tube (now increased in size).
Do you have any numbers on carb air temperature rise with your setup.
George in Langley BC
do not archive
Dale Ensing wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
>
>George in BC
>Regarding RPM drop....
>If you are using Vans set up on the airbox, not all of the inlet air is
>coming thru the 2 in. SCAT tubing from the heat muff. The mounting for the
2
>in. SCAT nipple on the air box allows for bypass air which is pulled from
>the immediate area around the front of the airbox. My RPM drop is never as
>much when the engine area is relatively cool soon after first start up
verus
>a restart when the engine is hot from a recent flight. I attribute this to
>the air temp of that bypass air.
>Dale in NC
>
>
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| Subject: | Crate for Completed RV-7 Tail Needed |
--> RV-List message posted by: "M. Orr" <morr@vt.edu>
It is a little hard when the tail is 400 miles away.
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Bibb
Subject: Re: RV-List: Crate for Completed RV-7 Tail Needed
--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Bibb" <rebibb@comcast.net>
hmm- got a tape measure? Bathroom Scale?
> Does anyone have dimensions and weight of tail shipping crates so that
I
> can get a quote from my moving company or a freight provider?
>
> Thanks!
> Matt
>
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| Subject: | acoustical and thremal insuluation |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
You have to jump over to their sister site for that. They market the same product
under different names and one is aimed at aircraft. They claim it meets FAA
burn tests. I think I am going to order the spray can and do some tests of
my own on it. Seeing how it's a polymer and not a foam, I doubt it would absorb
anything but I would like to make sure. Think I will do a dip test in some
avgas to be sure.
http://www.quietsolution.com/QAir_dsheet_scn.pdf
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Emp Assembly
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marty
Subject: RE: RV-List: acoustical and thremal insuluation
--> RV-List message posted by: "Marty" <martorious@earthlink.net>
|-----Original Message-----
|From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
|server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
|Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:58 AM
|To: rv-list@matronics.com
|Subject: RE: RV-List: acoustical and thremal insuluation
|
|--> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)"
|<rvbuilder@sausen.net>
|
| Here is something I have been considering. http://www.quietcoat.com I
|don't remember where I found it but it looks very interesting and
|should be much lighter than the usual asphalt mats. Anyone have any
|experience with it?
|
|Michael Sausen
|-10 #352 Emp Assembly
I'd be interested in seeing some burn data on this. I looked on the website but
couldn't find it mentioned anywhere. I'm interested in quieting the plane as
much as anyone, but I think I'm more paranoid of adding fuel to the fire, as
it were.
Marty in Indiana
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--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
Howdy 'List-
Yes, I have the "disease" of brake drag and will soon be re-lining the pads-
after scouring the archives and reviewing the '98 RVator article, I'm curious
if anyone's tried just adding external springs around the rods ala Cleveland?
I'd really like to avoid disassembling/overhauling/refilling brake system if
possible, and having the extra springs might add some redundancy?
Thanks-
Mark Phillips -6A, 205 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Crate for Completed RV-7 Tail Needed |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
>> Does anyone have dimensions and weight of tail shipping crates so
>> that I can get a quote from my moving company or a freight
>> provider?
Give these guys a call http://www.buildtofly.com/
This is where I built my tail, and a young fellow named
Jacob there crated my empennage up and shipped it to
me in Switzerland. He did an outstanding job. He
would probably be able to give you the exact dimensions
and weights, since he's done it many times. I've already
disassembled my box, so I can't help much.
Another option would be to call these guys:
Partain Trading Company
(http://www.vansairforce.net/rvbp/)
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=2166
Good luck!
Mickey
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 finishing
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| Subject: | Re: Dragging Brakes |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Robert E. Lynch" <rv6lynch@earthlink.net>
You probably have the bolt to tight on bottom of .
the brake cylinder. try loosening it a little to see if things get better.
Bob
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--> RV-List message posted by: "John Danielson" <Jdaniel343@bresnan.net>
Tim,
You don't want to block the opening off. This is how the hot air
dissipates when the carb heat is off. With the carb heat off, where is
all that hot air going to go. Its going to get really hot on top of the
intake plenum.
John L. Danielson
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Bryan
Subject: Re: RV-List: Carb Heat
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
This is getting my attention now. I wondered why the standoff allowed
unheated air in so I blocked most of the opening around the standoff.
Do
you think there would not be enough volume via the standard scat tube?
Maybe I should remove my block offs.
Tim
RV-6
-------Original Message-------
From: GMC
Subject: Re: RV-List: Carb Heat
--> RV-List message posted by: GMC <gmcnutt@shaw.ca>
Hi Dale
Yes you are right. I forgot about that raised standoff area that allows
cooler bypass air in. On the advice of others I had eliminated the
standoff for the scat tube flange when building and my aircraft has been
breathing warm air only through the scat tube (now increased in size).
Do you have any numbers on carb air temperature rise with your setup.
George in Langley BC
do not archive
Dale Ensing wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
>
>George in BC
>Regarding RPM drop....
>If you are using Vans set up on the airbox, not all of the inlet air is
>coming thru the 2 in. SCAT tubing from the heat muff. The mounting for
the
2
>in. SCAT nipple on the air box allows for bypass air which is pulled
from
>the immediate area around the front of the airbox. My RPM drop is never
as
>much when the engine area is relatively cool soon after first start up
verus
>a restart when the engine is hot from a recent flight. I attribute this
to
>the air temp of that bypass air.
>Dale in NC
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
Didn't even think of that. Thank You
Tim
-------Original Message-------
From: John Danielson
Subject: RE: RV-List: Carb Heat
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Danielson" <Jdaniel343@bresnan.net>
Tim,
You don't want to block the opening off. This is how the hot air
dissipates when the carb heat is off. With the carb heat off, where is
all that hot air going to go. Its going to get really hot on top of the
intake plenum.
John L. Danielson
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Bryan
Subject: Re: RV-List: Carb Heat
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
This is getting my attention now. I wondered why the standoff allowed
unheated air in so I blocked most of the opening around the standoff.
Do
you think there would not be enough volume via the standard scat tube?
Maybe I should remove my block offs.
Tim
RV-6
-------Original Message-------
From: GMC
Subject: Re: RV-List: Carb Heat
--> RV-List message posted by: GMC <gmcnutt@shaw.ca>
Hi Dale
Yes you are right. I forgot about that raised standoff area that allows
cooler bypass air in. On the advice of others I had eliminated the
standoff for the scat tube flange when building and my aircraft has been
breathing warm air only through the scat tube (now increased in size).
Do you have any numbers on carb air temperature rise with your setup.
George in Langley BC
do not archive
Dale Ensing wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
>
>George in BC
>Regarding RPM drop....
>If you are using Vans set up on the airbox, not all of the inlet air is
>coming thru the 2 in. SCAT tubing from the heat muff. The mounting for
the
2
>in. SCAT nipple on the air box allows for bypass air which is pulled
from
>the immediate area around the front of the airbox. My RPM drop is never
as
>much when the engine area is relatively cool soon after first start up
verus
>a restart when the engine is hot from a recent flight. I attribute this
to
>the air temp of that bypass air.
>Dale in NC
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
Hi List, maybe someone can enlighten me on the following scenario:
When I took my basic flight training I flew two different Cessna 152's.
One had an EGT and the other did not. I have owned other aircraft which had
the EGT but I fail to understand the importantance of this gauge.
I generally lean at altitude by slowly leaning the mixture until the engine
misses then enrichen only enough to smooth the engine. I have at times used
the EGT but end up using the aforementioned leaning system as it appears to
be easier and in my opinion with a carbureted engine the way to go..
Would you tell me how and when the EGT would be "really important" to have?
I consider CHT far more important than EGT allthough the are slower to
react..
Remember that we are talking about four stroke engines. Two stroke engines
may require a closer look at the EGT.
I don't think the EGT is even required on certified aircraft as it was not
on the equipment list for one of the 152's I flew back in the spam can days.
Thanks to the experts who are about to comment on this subject
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| Subject: | Re: EGT/ CHT Gauges |
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
In a message dated 07/13/2005 7:47:19 PM Central Standard Time,
vicwj@earthlink.net writes:
Would you tell me how and when the EGT would be "really important" to have?
>>>
Not particularly important on a carbureted Lyc- much more so on injected
engines- but when I glance at the EGT during instrument scan, (particularly
during or after any climbing) if it reads in the 1300s it translates as "you forgot
to lean, dummy" and I grab the red knob...
Plus, having all four monitored can assist with diagnostics (like- you forgot
to lean!) or which plug is fouled, valve sticking, (I think) intake leak etc.
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: EGT/ CHT Gauges |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Pardue" <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
>
> Hi List, maybe someone can enlighten me on the following scenario:
>
> When I took my basic flight training I flew two different Cessna 152's.
> One had an EGT and the other did not. I have owned other aircraft which
> had
> the EGT but I fail to understand the importantance of this gauge.
>
> I generally lean at altitude by slowly leaning the mixture until the
> engine
> misses then enrichen only enough to smooth the engine. I have at times
> used
> the EGT but end up using the aforementioned leaning system as it appears
> to
> be easier and in my opinion with a carbureted engine the way to go..
>
> Would you tell me how and when the EGT would be "really important" to
> have?
>
> I consider CHT far more important than EGT allthough the are slower to
> react..
>
Vic,
Your leaning method is perfectly in line with the Lycoming guidelines. The
EGT might be important with an injected engine.
With your situation CHT is far more important, not for leaning but for
determing engine cooling.
Larry Pardue
Carlsbad, NM
RV-6 N441LP Flying
http://n5lp.net
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| Subject: | acoustical and thermal insuluation |
--> RV-List message posted by: Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com>
Thanks for the site. I thought (poor memory) that SS
recommended a spray adhesive. So with my -6A panel
complete I didn't want a lot of aerosal glue flying
around under there, especially with me in the
too-familiar contorted pose! BTW I bought the Super
Soundproofing Mat.
Aloha.
Greg in Honolulu
--- Vincent Himsl <vhimsl@turbonet.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Vincent Himsl"
> <vhimsl@turbonet.com>
>
> Hello,
> There is a complete article on using and installing
> the super sound proof
> foam. You can order it free from Aircraft Spruce
> (09-42755 HOW TO SOUNDPROOF
> LIGHT A/C) or download it online
> http://www.soundproofing.org/infopages/soundprf.html
>
> I found it to be very helpful and informative. It
> talks about the glue and
> how you should spot it on rather than layer it on
> completely as you 'will'
> someday need to remove the soundproofing for
> whatever reason.
>
> I have the floor of my RV8 covered with the super
> stuff and just by tapping
> on the outside of the fuselage above and below it,
> you can really tell the
> difference. However several builders, now flying
> (archives), are of the
> opinion that noise canceling headsets make the most
> difference.
>
> Regards,
> Vince Himsl RV8-VSB Finish
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of Greg Grigson
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: acoustical and thremal
> insuluation
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Greg Grigson
> <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com>
>
> So... any suggestions on good adhesives or
> attachment
> methods for the black foam soundproofing. What are
> your thoughts on 3M Super Weatherstrip Adhesive aka
> "Camel Snot"?
>
> Greg in Honolulu
>
>
> --- Kyle Boatright <kboatright1@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright"
> > <kboatright1@comcast.net>
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Karen and Robert Brown"
> > <bkbrown@ashcreekwireless.com>
> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: RV-List: acoustical and thremal
> > insuluation
> >
> >
> > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Karen and Robert
> > Brown"
> > > <bkbrown@ashcreekwireless.com>
> > >
> > > Aircraft Spruce has a free booklet (p/n
> 09-42755)
> > in their catalog that
> > > discusses the details of insulating an aircraft,
> > giving several options.
> > > I'd recommend starting there. On my 7A, I used
> > the sandwich technique
> > > described in the book and made templates to fit
> > each area of skin in the
> > > airplane. These sandwiches are foam/aluminum
> > foil/foam, put together with
> > > spray on contact cement. I will have about 2"
> of
> > this material (3 or 4
> > > sandwiches) on the firewall, about 1" everywhere
> > else. I put it on all
> > > metal surfaces that are not occupied with
> > something else, including
> > > subpanel areas, behind the baggage bulkhead and
> > areas in the tail. Total
> > > weight to the airplane is about 10 pounds. I
> used
> > the 1/4" "Super
> > > Soundproofing Sheet" foam from Spruce (p/n
> 42720).
> > That makes one
> > > "sandwich" a little thicker than 1/2" once the
> > foil is put in. I've
> > > sprayed contact cement lightly to the aluminum
> to
> > attach these. You can
> > > still rip em out if you want to, but they are
> > attached more pe!
> > > rmanently than velcro. The plane isn't flying
> > yet, but there is an
> > > incredible difference just being inside it and
> > working...it's like a sound
> > > studio.
> > >
> > > Bob Brown
> > > RV7A - wingtip lights/waiting on engine
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > You may want to investigate some other attachment
> > method than spray on
> > contact adhesive. My experience is that it does
> not
> > hold up well against
> > the firewall. In fact, I've re-attached the
> > insulation on my RV-6 firewall
> > a couple of times over the course of 300 and
> > something flight hours.
> > Standing on my head in the footwell re-attaching
> > insulation ranks about a 10
> > on the misery index...
> >
> > KB
> >
> >
> >
> > browse
> > Subscriptions page,
> > FAQ,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
>
>
>
>
>
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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| Subject: | Re: cutting out wheel pants |
--> RV-List message posted by: Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com>
Danny,
Just got my wheelpants done two weeks ago in my 6A. I
cut a slot, starting out about with of the gear leg
bottom diameter, then worked my way up to provide at
least 1/4" of clearance. One is right "on" the other
is a liitle off. How much? Who knows, you cover it
all in fiberglass and hardly ever see it again.
Man, if your workin on "the" pants you're really
close! I found that, as others have previously
voiced, fiberglass is not too difficult to learn.
Especially if you have some Lancair buddies. Just a
bit tedious. I will have a body man fix all my lumpy
surfaces prior to painting, I've found I don't have
the eye or the patience for the super smooth, flowing
look. There's a good link somewhere I'm sure you have
on materials and layups..
BTW I used my wife's ceramic potters clay (water
based) with good results. Couldn't find oil-based in
the islands mon.
Aloha.
Greg
--- Sportypilot <sportypilot@stx.rr.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Sportypilot"
> <sportypilot@stx.rr.com>
>
> I got the gear on and have been trying to figure out
> how not to make a
> mistake on cutting out the rear portion of
> the wheel pant to get it over the tire so i can mark
> the cut out for the
> gear leg.. what did you guys start with on the
> size hole or end with so I can cut it once and the
> fit the side for the
> leg.. then I can find where to drill the holes for
> the attach brackets.. I have the leg fairings cut
> out and clamped at the top
> but the next step to get the wheel pants on
> so I can start with the clay.. any help email or
> otherwise.. would be
> awesome..
>
>
> thnks in advance..
>
> Danny..
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | How are you keeping the water out of an RV6/7 "Tip-Up"???? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
For those of you with the RV6 or7 "Tip-Up" Canopy, how do you keep rain
water from running into your avionics etc.?
This is assuming the plane is OUTSIDE and UNCOVERED. A scenario for this is
when you are at an Airshow like Sun-n-Fun or AirVenture and a surprise
shower comes up OR when you are taxiing in and get caught by a shower.
The last scenario is particularly bad when you go to open the canopy and all
of the water from the canopy drains inside (unless you have someone meet you
to remove the water first. :-)
Did you build a seal/ditch using just silicone or did you use water
repellent cloth? Or did you put a metal cover over everything??
Any ideas from someone who has "been there" will be REALLY appreciated. I am
heading toward OSH real soon and need to fix this somehow over the next few
days.
Thanks,
James
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