RV-List Digest Archive

Sat 07/16/05


Total Messages Posted: 26



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     1. 05:28 AM - F O R S A L E - RV-6 Empennage Kit (Bradley Kidder)
     2. 08:39 AM - solo riveting of leading edges (David Fenstermacher)
     3. 09:34 AM - Re: solo riveting of leading edges (Evan and Megan Johnson)
     4. 09:38 AM - Re: solo riveting of leading edges (Richard E. Tasker)
     5. 09:39 AM - Re: solo riveting of leading edges (Kevin Horton)
     6. 09:40 AM - Re: solo riveting of leading edges (Kyle Boatright)
     7. 09:44 AM - Predator corvette (Evan and Megan Johnson)
     8. 11:05 AM - Re: Predator corvette (Charlie England)
     9. 11:40 AM - Re: solo riveting of leading edges (Bob Collins)
    10. 11:40 AM - Re: RV / Long-EZ collision (BBreckenridge@att.net)
    11. 11:54 AM - Re: Predator corvette (Brian Denk)
    12. 12:38 PM - Re: RV-Linst: Predator Corvette (rv6n6r@comcast.net)
    13. 12:50 PM - Off the list for awhile (HCRV6@aol.com)
    14. 01:01 PM - Re: Re: RV-Linst: Predator Corvette (ogoodwin@comcast.net)
    15. 01:40 PM - Re: Re: RV-Linst: Predator Corvette (Gary Cole)
    16. 02:03 PM - Re: Re: RV-Linst: Predator Corvette (ogoodwin@comcast.net)
    17. 02:19 PM - Re: Re: RV-Linst: Predator Corvette (ogoodwin@comcast.net)
    18. 06:03 PM - Nylon Ties (Vic Jacko)
    19. 06:07 PM - Primer system (Vic Jacko)
    20. 06:29 PM - PSS AOA Flap Position Sensor (Ed OConnor)
    21. 06:43 PM - Bending Rivets (alan@reichertech.com)
    22. 06:59 PM - Re: solo riveting of leading edges (Brian Huffaker)
    23. 07:21 PM - Re: Bending Rivets (JOHN STARN)
    24. 07:38 PM - Re: Bending Rivets (Jim Jewell)
    25. 08:07 PM - Re: Bending Rivets (David Fenstermacher)
    26. 08:32 PM - Re: Bending Rivets (Stein Bruch)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:28:26 AM PST US
    From: Bradley Kidder <sparksnmagic@usa.net>
    Subject: F O R S A L E - RV-6 Empennage Kit
    Z-USANET-MsgId: XID705JgPmyN0447X31 1.34 GAPPY_SUBJECT Subject: contains G.a.p.p.y-T.e.x.t --> RV-List message posted by: Bradley Kidder <sparksnmagic@usa.net> For Sale: Pre-drilled RV-6/6A empennage kit. Includes construction manual, preview plans, and optional electric trim kit. Some riveting done, perhaps 15%. Asking price is $950 (paid $1435 7/98). Absolutely undamaged and safely stored. Located in Fort Smith, Arkansas. Pictures available. ><((((=BA>`=B7.=B8=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7...=B8><((((=BA> =B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7.. ><((((=BA>`=B7.=B8=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7...=B8><((((=BA> Brad Kidder .=B7=B4=AF`=B7...=B8><((((=BA> N188FW AA-1 #124 "Hawg One" AOPA (ASN/KSLG) - EAA - Angel Flight .=B7=B4=AF`=B7.. ><((((=BA> . , . .=B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7.. ><((((=BA>


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    Time: 08:39:27 AM PST US
    From: "David Fenstermacher" <dfenstermacher@earthlink.net>
    Subject: solo riveting of leading edges
    --> RV-List message posted by: "David Fenstermacher" <dfenstermacher@earthlink.net> Has anyone been successful in solo riveting the forward most rivets of the leading edges. My rivet partner is AWOL (Actually he is TDY for 3 months). I know it CAN be done, but has anyone done it without any "happy faces". If so, tips/tricks? Thanks all, Dave David Fenstermacher dfenstermacher@earthlink.net


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    Time: 09:34:12 AM PST US
    From: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
    Subject: Re: solo riveting of leading edges
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net> I do it every day on the tanks.....a few times on leading edges as well. Just cleco it together and then stand it up on end with the rib flanges up. Then you can just set your bucking bar flat on the rib and focus your attention on the gun. As long as the gun is held straight and you dont overpower the bucking bar you will be good. Also...try to really feather the gun up to power slowly...much better control. Short quick blasts of power will give you more smiles that you care to see. Good luck.. Evan Johnson www.evansaviationproducts.com (530)247-0375 (530)351-1776 cell ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Fenstermacher" <dfenstermacher@earthlink.net> Subject: RV-List: solo riveting of leading edges > --> RV-List message posted by: "David Fenstermacher" <dfenstermacher@earthlink.net> > > Has anyone been successful in solo riveting the forward most rivets of the leading edges. > My rivet partner is AWOL (Actually he is TDY for 3 months). > > I know it CAN be done, but has anyone done it without any "happy faces". > If so, tips/tricks? > > Thanks all, > > Dave > > > David Fenstermacher > dfenstermacher@earthlink.net > >


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    Time: 09:38:04 AM PST US
    From: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net>
    Subject: Re: solo riveting of leading edges
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net> I don't know exactly what rivets you are talking about, but since I have riveted ALL but a half dozen singlehandedly on my 9A (not quickbuild, 80% done) I guess the answer is yes. As far as tips, I would need to know what leading edge are you referring to? Dick Tasker David Fenstermacher wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "David Fenstermacher" <dfenstermacher@earthlink.net> > >Has anyone been successful in solo riveting the forward most rivets of the leading edges. >My rivet partner is AWOL (Actually he is TDY for 3 months). > >I know it CAN be done, but has anyone done it without any "happy faces". >If so, tips/tricks? > >Thanks all, > >Dave > > >David Fenstermacher >dfenstermacher@earthlink.net > ---- Please Note: No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message. We do concede, however, that a significant number of electrons may have been temporarily inconvenienced. ----


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    Time: 09:39:58 AM PST US
    From: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
    Subject: Re: solo riveting of leading edges
    --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com> On 16 Jul 2005, at 11:34, David Fenstermacher wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "David Fenstermacher" > <dfenstermacher@earthlink.net> > > Has anyone been successful in solo riveting the forward most rivets > of the leading edges. > My rivet partner is AWOL (Actually he is TDY for 3 months). > > I know it CAN be done, but has anyone done it without any "happy > faces". > If so, tips/tricks? > I riveted the leading edge skins to the ribs on my RV-8, without any help, and the results were pretty close to perfect. You just need to be careful, be sure the gun is well centered on the rivet, and be prepared to release the trigger at the first sign that something isn't right. It wasn't easy though. I had done most of the riveting to this point by myself, only using a helper in spots where it simply wasn't possible to reach the gun and bucking bar at the same time. So I was relatively practised at riveting solo. If you are not comfortable with solo riveting in difficult spots, this might not the place to learn. Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit) Ottawa, Canada http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8


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    Time: 09:40:07 AM PST US
    From: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: solo riveting of leading edges
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net> I did my fuel tanks and leading edges solo, but had a couple of minor smilies that disappeared during the paint process. No tips, but I'm sure the swivel head flush rivet set would have helped. The biggest problem I had was bruising on my upper arm near the armpit, where it was hitting the tank while I reached in with the the bucking bar. Amazing how a small impact, multiplied by several hundred times, can give you quite a brusie. KB ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Fenstermacher" <dfenstermacher@earthlink.net> Subject: RV-List: solo riveting of leading edges > --> RV-List message posted by: "David Fenstermacher" > <dfenstermacher@earthlink.net> > > Has anyone been successful in solo riveting the forward most rivets of the > leading edges. > My rivet partner is AWOL (Actually he is TDY for 3 months). > > I know it CAN be done, but has anyone done it without any "happy faces". > If so, tips/tricks? > > Thanks all, > > Dave > > > David Fenstermacher > dfenstermacher@earthlink.net > > >


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    Time: 09:44:12 AM PST US
    From: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
    Subject: Predator corvette
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net> Any of you guys know what became of the corvette conversion engine that was out there for a while? It was huge amounts of power with a reduction gear....and air conditioning. He was supposed to be building a firewall forward for the RV 10. Obviously Vans did not approve, but it was intriguing...........Before you start flaming, I'm not really planning such a thing, but this is experimental aviation after all. It seemed like a good direction for maybe the guys with the Stewart mustangs or other such things. Just curious, Evan Johnson www.evansaviationproducts.com (530)247-0375 (530)351-1776 cell


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    Time: 11:05:54 AM PST US
    From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Predator corvette
    --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net> Evan and Megan Johnson wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net> > >Any of you guys know what became of the corvette conversion engine that was out there for a while? It was huge amounts of power with a reduction gear....and air conditioning. He was supposed to be building a firewall forward for the RV 10. Obviously Vans did not approve, but it was intriguing...........Before you start flaming, I'm not really planning such a thing, but this is experimental aviation after all. It seemed like a good direction for maybe the guys with the Stewart mustangs or other such things. >Just curious, >Evan Johnson >www.evansaviationproducts.com >(530)247-0375 >(530)351-1776 cell > The big thing that jumped out at me when I read the big 'spread' was the gross inconsistency in numbers throughout the article. Weights were highly suspect, but fuel burn/hp numbers were downright unbelievable. I wouldn't be surprised if an aluminum V-8 could be made to work in the -10 but I wouldn't trust that guy to do it because of his unbelievable claims. Charlie


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    Time: 11:40:25 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net>
    Subject: solo riveting of leading edges
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net> > > I know it CAN be done, but has anyone done it without any "happy > faces". If so, tips/tricks? I did most of my wings solo...and "roger" on the bruised armpits. The trick with the leading edges was to put the things in the cradle and then get right up on the table with the cradle and contort to all sorts of positions. It was not a pleasant experience, nor were all my leading edge rivets perfect. I might've drilled out one or two; I might've said 'good enough' to some others. Can't imagine doing it without the swivel flush head set, tho


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    Time: 11:40:47 AM PST US
    From: BBreckenridge@att.net
    Subject: RE: RV / Long-EZ collision
    1.25 RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO Received: contains an IP address used for HELO --> RV-List message posted by: BBreckenridge@att.net Beautifully done. Grabs the heart real good. Thank you... My thoughts and prayers go to his family at their (and our) loss. Bruce -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Hansen Subject: RV / Long-EZ collision --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Hansen" <jerry-hansen@cox.net> With regard to the RV - Long-EZ mid-air collision last weekend, there is a remarkable video that has been posted, commemorating the canard aviator. It shows a bit of the formation flight work of which they were all so proud. http://www.GlassOvercast.com/video/jayblum.wmv Jerry


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    Time: 11:54:08 AM PST US
    From: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Predator corvette
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com> > >Any of you guys know what became of the corvette conversion engine that was >out there for a while? It was huge amounts of power with a reduction >gear....and air conditioning. He was supposed to be building a firewall >forward for the RV 10. Obviously Vans did not approve, but it was >intriguing...........Before you start flaming, I'm not really planning such >a thing, but this is experimental aviation after all. It seemed like a good >direction for maybe the guys with the Stewart mustangs or other such >things. >Just curious, >Evan Johnson >www.evansaviationproducts.com >(530)247-0375 >(530)351-1776 cell I googled it and came up with nothing. Maybe they disappeared like most of the vaporware engine gurus. Brian Denk RV8 N94BD RV10 '51 yes, air conditioning would be nice!


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    Time: 12:38:59 PM PST US
    From: rv6n6r@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: RV-Linst: Predator Corvette
    1.25 RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO Received: contains an IP address used for HELO --> RV-List message posted by: rv6n6r@comcast.net > Any of you guys know what became of the corvette conversion engine > that was out there for a while? [snip] I don't know about the "Predator" (in fact I know pretty much nothing about auto engine conversions) but up at Arlington I saw a beautiful 'homebuilt' based on a Republic Seabee fuselage (I know "beautiful Seabee" sounds like an oxymoron but its true!) The engine is a Robinson Conversion LS-6 Corvette with 405 HP and a four bladed MT propeller. Sounds like too much for an RV-10 and I'm sure not recommending it, just offering the info. Anyway I found a website that has some in-progress photos, http://www.republicseabee.com/Seabeenews.html. Not too much there but they say will be updated soon. Just FYI. Randall Henderson RV-6 www.edt.com/rhproject


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    Time: 12:50:04 PM PST US
    From: HCRV6@aol.com
    Subject: Off the list for awhile
    --> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com In case anyone on the RV-list wants to reach me I will be out of town and off the list until August 1st. Do not archive Harry Crosby RV-6 N16CX, 113 hours


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    Time: 01:01:16 PM PST US
    From: ogoodwin@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: RV-Linst: Predator Corvette
    --> RV-List message posted by: ogoodwin@comcast.net Try www.v8seabee.com Do not archive -------------- Original message -------------- > --> RV-List message posted by: rv6n6r@comcast.net > > > Any of you guys know what became of the corvette conversion engine > > that was out there for a while? > [snip] > > I don't know about the "Predator" (in fact I know pretty much nothing about auto > engine conversions) but up at Arlington I saw a beautiful > 'homebuilt' based on a Republic Seabee fuselage (I know "beautiful Seabee" > sounds like an oxymoron but its true!) The engine is a Robinson Conversion LS-6 > Corvette with 405 HP and a four bladed MT propeller. Sounds like too much for an > RV-10 and I'm sure not recommending it, just offering the info. Anyway I found a > website that has some in-progress photos, > http://www.republicseabee.com/Seabeenews.html. Not too much there but they say > will be updated soon. Just FYI. > > Randall Henderson > RV-6 > www.edt.com/rhproject > > > > > > Try www.v8seabee.com Do not archive -------------- Original message -------------- -- RV-List message posted by: rv6n6r@comcast.net Any of you guys know what became of the corvette conversion engine that was out there for a while? [snip] I don't know about the "Predator" (in fact I know pretty much nothing about auto engine conversions) but up at Arlington I saw a beautiful 'homebuilt' based on a Republic Seabee fuselage (I know "beautiful Seabee" sounds like an oxymoron but its true!) The engine is a Robinson Conversion LS-6 Corvette with 405 HP and a four bladed MT propeller. Sounds like too much for an RV-10 and I'm sure not recommending it, just offering the info. Anyway I found a website that has some in-progress photos, http://www.republicseabee.com/Seabeenews.html. Not too muc h there but they say will be updated soon. Just FYI. Randall Henderson RV-6 www.edt.com/rhproject


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    Time: 01:40:10 PM PST US
    From: Gary Cole <cole_gary@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: RV-Linst: Predator Corvette
    --> RV-List message posted by: Gary Cole <cole_gary@sbcglobal.net> Another one that I found is www.v8aircraft.com. After reading their material, I have doubts about the validity of their claims. HRII abuilding slowly Gary Cole Barkeley, CA ogoodwin@comcast.net wrote: --> RV-List message posted by: ogoodwin@comcast.net Try www.v8seabee.com Do not archive -------------- Original message -------------- > --> RV-List message posted by: rv6n6r@comcast.net > > > Any of you guys know what became of the corvette conversion engine > > that was out there for a while? > [snip] > > I don't know about the "Predator" (in fact I know pretty much nothing about auto > engine conversions) but up at Arlington I saw a beautiful > 'homebuilt' based on a Republic Seabee fuselage (I know "beautiful Seabee" > sounds like an oxymoron but its true!) The engine is a Robinson Conversion LS-6 > Corvette with 405 HP and a four bladed MT propeller. Sounds like too much for an > RV-10 and I'm sure not recommending it, just offering the info. Anyway I found a > website that has some in-progress photos, > http://www.republicseabee.com/Seabeenews.html. Not too much there but they say > will be updated soon. Just FYI. > > Randall Henderson > RV-6 > www.edt.com/rhproject > > > > > > Try www.v8seabee.com Do not archive -------------- Original message -------------- -- RV-List message posted by: rv6n6r@comcast.net Any of you guys know what became of the corvette conversion engine that was out there for a while? [snip] I don't know about the "Predator" (in fact I know pretty much nothing about auto engine conversions) but up at Arlington I saw a beautiful 'homebuilt' based on a Republic Seabee fuselage (I know "beautiful Seabee" sounds like an oxymoron but its true!) The engine is a Robinson Conversion LS-6 Corvette with 405 HP and a four bladed MT propeller. Sounds like too much for an RV-10 and I'm sure not recommending it, just offering the info. Anyway I found a website that has some in-progress photos, http://www.republicseabee.com/Seabeenews.html. Not too muc h there but they say will be updated soon. Just FYI. Randall Henderson RV-6 www.edt.com/rhproject


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    Time: 02:03:03 PM PST US
    From: ogoodwin@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: RV-Linst: Predator Corvette
    --> RV-List message posted by: ogoodwin@comcast.net I'm curious what claims you doubt? The power claims seem pretty reasonable, since lots of dynamometer data exists for various configurations of the LS1/LS2/LS6 engines, and it doesn't seem too hard to get well over 300 horsepower at the wheels (most figure about 12 to 15% more at the flywheel) for the LS1 and more from the larger versions. The new LS7 is externally identical and is 427 cubic inches and obviously more powerful. I don't know about their PSRU, but I think it's based on the Geschwender chain drive that's been around for 30 years or so and seems to work quite well. The fuel burn figures do seem a bit low, but since the engine is computer controlled, I'd expect lower burns than a comparable air cooled aircraft engine. A standard LS with all accesories weighs about 400 pounds (no psru or radiator). Another source for LS1/LS6 conversions is www.fighterescortwings.com Do not archive -------------- Original message -------------- > --> RV-List message posted by: Gary Cole > > Another one that I found is www.v8aircraft.com. > > After reading their material, I have doubts about the validity of their claims. > > HRII abuilding slowly > > Gary Cole > > Barkeley, CA > > ogoodwin@comcast.net wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: ogoodwin@comcast.net > > Try www.v8seabee.com > > Do not archive > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > --> RV-List message posted by: rv6n6r@comcast.net > > > > > Any of you guys know what became of the corvette conversion engine > > > that was out there for a while? > > [snip] > > > > I don't know about the "Predator" (in fact I know pretty much nothing about > auto > > engine conversions) but up at Arlington I saw a beautiful > > 'homebuilt' based on a Republic Seabee fuselage (I know "beautiful Seabee" > > sounds like an oxymoron but its true!) The engine is a Robinson Conversion > LS-6 > > Corvette with 405 HP and a four bladed MT propeller. Sounds like too much for > an > > RV-10 and I'm sure not recommending it, just offering the info. Anyway I found > a > > website that has some in-progress photos, > > http://www.republicseabee.com/Seabeenews.html. Not too much there but they say > > will be updated soon. Just FYI. > > > > Randall Henderson > > RV-6 > > www.edt.com/rhproject > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try www.v8seabee.com > > Do not archive > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > -- RV-List message posted by: rv6n6r@comcast.net > > Any of you guys know what became of the corvette conversion engine > that was out there for a while? > [snip] > > I don't know about the "Predator" (in fact I know pretty much nothing about auto > engine conversions) but up at Arlington I saw a beautiful > 'homebuilt' based on a Republic Seabee fuselage (I know "beautiful Seabee" > sounds like an oxymoron but its true!) The engine is a Robinson Conversion LS-6 > Corvette with 405 HP and a four bladed MT propeller. Sounds like too much for an > RV-10 and I'm sure not recommending it, just offering the info. Anyway I found a > website that has some in-progress photos, > http://www.republicseabee.com/Seabeenews.html. Not too muc > h there but they say > will be updated soon. Just FYI. > > Randall Henderson > RV-6 > www.edt.com/rhproject > > > > > > I'm curious what claims you doubt? The power claims seem pretty reasonable, since lots of dynamometer data exists for various configurations of the LS1/LS2/LS6 engines, and it doesn't seem too hard to get well over 300 horsepower at the wheels (most figure about 12 to 15% more at the flywheel) for the LS1 and more from the larger versions. The new LS7 is externally identical and is 427 cubic inches and obviously more powerful. I don't know about their PSRU, but I think it's based on the Geschwender chain drive that's been around for 30 years or so and seems to work quite well. The fuel burn figures do seem a bit low, but since the engine is computer controlled, I'd expect lower burns than a comparable air cooled aircraft engine. A standard LS with all accesories weighs about 400 pounds (no psru or radiator). Another source for LS1/LS6 conversions is www.fighterescortwings.com Do not archive -------------- Original message -------------- -- RV-List message posted by: Gary Cole <COLE_GARY@SBCGLOBAL.NET> Another one that I found is www.v8aircraft.com. After reading their material, I have doubts about the validity of their claims. HRII abuilding slowly Gary Cole Barkeley, CA ogoodwin@comcast.net wrote: -- RV-List message posted by: ogoodwin@comcast.net Try www.v8seabee.com Do not archive -------------- Original message -------------- -- RV-List message posted by: rv6n6r@comcast.net Any of you guys know what became of the corvette conversion engine that was out there for a while? [snip] < BR> I don't know about the "Predator" (in fact I know pretty much nothing about auto engine conversions) but up at Arlington I saw a beautiful 'homebuilt' based on a Republic Seabee fuselage (I know "beautiful Seabee" sounds like an oxymoron but its true!) The engine is a Robinson Conversion LS-6 Corvette with 405 HP and a four bladed MT propeller. Sounds like too much for an RV-10 and I'm sure not recommending it, just offering the info. Anyway I found a website that has some in-progress photos, http://www.republicseabee.com/Seabeenews.html. Not too much there but they say will be updated soon. Just FYI. Randall Henderson RV-6 www.edt.com/rhproject Try www.v8seabee .com Do not archive -------------- Original message -------------- -- RV-List message posted by: rv6n6r@comcast.net Any of you guys know what became of the corvette conversion engine that was out there for a while? [snip] I don't know about the "Predator" (in fact I know pretty much nothing about auto engine conversions) but up at Arlington I saw a beautiful 'homebuilt' based on a Republic Seabee fuselage (I know "beautiful Seabee" sounds like an oxymoron but its true!) The engine is a Robinson Conversion LS-6 Corvette with 405 HP and a four bladed MT propeller. Sounds like too much for an RV-10 and I'm sure not recommending it, just offering the info. Anyway I found a website that has some in-progress photos, http://www.republicseabee.com/Seabeenews.html. Not too muc h there but they say will be updated soon. Just FYI. Randall Henderson RV-6 www.edt.com/rhproject


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    Time: 02:19:56 PM PST US
    From: ogoodwin@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: RV-Linst: Predator Corvette
    --> RV-List message posted by: ogoodwin@comcast.net I went back and re read the whole thread, and I agree that the 405 hp is pretty high for their LS6. I do think that could be achieved with the LS7, and 300 to 350 with the LS1, LS6 and LS2. Do not archive -------------- Original message -------------- > --> RV-List message posted by: Gary Cole > > Another one that I found is www.v8aircraft.com. > > After reading their material, I have doubts about the validity of their claims. > > HRII abuilding slowly > > Gary Cole > > Barkeley, CA > > ogoodwin@comcast.net wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: ogoodwin@comcast.net > > Try www.v8seabee.com > > Do not archive > I went back and re read the whole thread, and I agree that the 405 hp ispretty high for their LS6. I do think that could be achieved with the LS7, and 300 to 350 with the LS1, LS6and LS2. Do not archive -------------- Original message -------------- -- RV-List message posted by: Gary Cole <COLE_GARY@SBCGLOBAL.NET> Another one that I found is www.v8aircraft.com. After reading their material, I have doubts about the validity of their claims. HRII abuilding slowly Gary Cole Barkeley, CA ogoodwin@comcast.net wrote: -- RV-List message posted by: ogoodwin@comcast.net Try www.v8seabee.com Do not archive


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    Time: 06:03:50 PM PST US
    From: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Nylon Ties
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net> List, what are the restrictions on the use of nylon ties in the engine compartment? Other than the exhaust system where else can they "not or should not" be used due to heat? Thanks, Vic


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    Time: 06:07:31 PM PST US
    From: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Primer system
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Vic Jacko" <vicwj@earthlink.net> I am in need of a primer system for a Lyc 0-235/ 0-320 or 0-360 engine. Need all firewall forward components to include clamps. Check the hanger parts bin and let me know. Vic


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    Time: 06:29:07 PM PST US
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    From: Ed OConnor <Edwardoconnor@mac.com>
    Subject: PSS AOA Flap Position Sensor
    --> RV-List message posted by: Ed OConnor <Edwardoconnor@mac.com> Does anyone on the list happen to have a picture of the installation of the PSS flap position sensor switch on an RV-8. I have been pondering just how to mount this little micro switch somewhere on the flap actuator bar. If no pictures, maybe a good description will do it. RV-8/Sandy Creek Airpark/Panama City FL/Mounting wings and tail feathers


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    Time: 06:43:28 PM PST US
    Subject: Bending Rivets
    From: alan@reichertech.com
    --> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com Looks like I get to order some new pieces next week. :-( While trying to assemble V-702/V-704/V-705 on an RV-8 emp, I keep peening over the rivets rather than making a nice level shop head. Any clues what I"m doing wrong? Gun is a 3X, 45PSI, offset. It sure looks like I'm driving it straight, but I'm obviously not doing something properly. Drilling out the last one ended up putting a badly oblong hole in the pieces, so they are now trash. -- Alan Reichert Priv, Inst, SEL RV-8 N927AR (reserved) Prepping Horizontal/Vertical Stabilizers for Assembly (I thought....)


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    Time: 06:59:58 PM PST US
    From: Brian Huffaker <bifft@xmission.com>
    Subject: solo riveting of leading edges
    T_TM2_M_HEADER_IN_MSG autolearn=disabled version=3.0.3 --> RV-List message posted by: Brian Huffaker <bifft@xmission.com> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005, Bob Collins wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net> > >> >> I know it CAN be done, but has anyone done it without any "happy >> faces". If so, tips/tricks? > > perfect. I might've drilled out one or two; I might've said 'good enough' to > some others. Can't imagine doing it without the swivel flush head set, tho > Just to post a different opinion, I find it hard to use the swivel head solo. If the rivit isn't precisely centered, it can let the rivit bounce out of the hole and not set flush. Much prefer the wider flat head set for solo riviting. Also did my leading edges solo, wasn't too much more difficult than anything else. Do most of the rivits in the cradle, than take it out just for the ones where the cradle is in the way. Brian Huffaker, DSWL (bifft@xmission.com) RV-8A 80091 Riviting mid cabin cover platenuts. 1/4 Starduster II N23UT flying


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    Time: 07:21:47 PM PST US
    From: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Bending Rivets
    --> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net> Using the offset can be a bear, we always used two sets of hands AND used one full set of hands on the gun. One to hold the gun & pull the trigger & the second on the offset to guide & hold it straight. We in Law Enforcement agree on this type of "gun control". Practice, practice, practice (on scrap if you have some). 8*) KABONG (GBA & GWB) Do not archive. This advise is in there. ----- Original Message ----- From: <alan@reichertech.com> Subject: RV-List: Bending Rivets > --> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com > > > Looks like I get to order some new pieces next week. :-( > > While trying to assemble V-702/V-704/V-705 on an RV-8 emp, I keep peening > over the rivets rather than making a nice level shop head. Any clues what > I"m doing wrong? > > Gun is a 3X, 45PSI, offset. It sure looks like I'm driving it straight, > but I'm obviously not doing something properly. Drilling out the last one > ended up putting a badly oblong hole in the pieces, so they are now trash. > > -- > Alan Reichert > Priv, Inst, SEL > RV-8 N927AR (reserved) > Prepping Horizontal/Vertical Stabilizers for Assembly (I thought....)


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    Time: 07:38:10 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
    Subject: Re: Bending Rivets
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net> Hi Alan, There is a strong possibility that you might be using the wrong (too long) rivet length. Double check the call out rivet size. Mock up some scrap sample parts using the same thicknesses of materials and try using different (shorter rivets). The practice will be good and examining the results should be at least somewhat educational. You will find that you can develop a good eye for rivet sizes and related riveting conditions this way without damaging the pricy bits. It will give you something to do while waiting for parts.{[;-) Go easy, Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: <alan@reichertech.com> Subject: RV-List: Bending Rivets > --> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com > > > Looks like I get to order some new pieces next week. :-( > > While trying to assemble V-702/V-704/V-705 on an RV-8 emp, I keep peening > over the rivets rather than making a nice level shop head. Any clues what > I"m doing wrong? > > Gun is a 3X, 45PSI, offset. It sure looks like I'm driving it straight, > but I'm obviously not doing something properly. Drilling out the last one > ended up putting a badly oblong hole in the pieces, so they are now trash. > > -- > Alan Reichert > Priv, Inst, SEL > RV-8 N927AR (reserved) > Prepping Horizontal/Vertical Stabilizers for Assembly (I thought....) > > >


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    Time: 08:07:08 PM PST US
    From: "David Fenstermacher" <dfenstermacher@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Bending Rivets
    --> RV-List message posted by: "David Fenstermacher" <dfenstermacher@earthlink.net> Also make sure you are using a "real" pressure regulator. The cheap-o ones regulate flow, not pressure. So ... you may be hitting the rivet with the full line pressure (100 lbs, or so - depends on how you have your compressor set) until the pressure drops and the flow limiter reduces the pressure. Go get a real pressure regulator if you don't have one and expect to pay 40 bucks or so - If this turns out to be your problem. Also, see Dan C's site for suggested pressures for different rivet lengths. I printed it out and have it taped to my rivet box. His suggestions work well for me. Dave -8 wings do not archive > [Original Message] > From: <alan@reichertech.com> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > Date: 7/16/2005 9:42:55 PM > Subject: RV-List: Bending Rivets > > --> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com > > > Looks like I get to order some new pieces next week. :-( > > While trying to assemble V-702/V-704/V-705 on an RV-8 emp, I keep peening > over the rivets rather than making a nice level shop head. Any clues what > I"m doing wrong? > > Gun is a 3X, 45PSI, offset. It sure looks like I'm driving it straight, > but I'm obviously not doing something properly. Drilling out the last one > ended up putting a badly oblong hole in the pieces, so they are now trash. > > -- > Alan Reichert > Priv, Inst, SEL > RV-8 N927AR (reserved) > Prepping Horizontal/Vertical Stabilizers for Assembly (I thought....) > >


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    Time: 08:32:11 PM PST US
    From: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
    Subject: Bending Rivets
    --> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com> Typically bent rivets are a sign of them just being too long. Another possibiliyt (albeit not as usual as the long rivet) is the bucking bar being held at a slight angle, though this just usually results in a tilted buck tail/shop head. I'd probably suspect the long rivet thing myself, but with an offset everything is more difficult. As stated before, you about have to have 2 people to make an offset set work well. Just my 2 cents after building a couple of these things! Cheers, Stein. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of alan@reichertech.com Subject: RV-List: Bending Rivets --> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com Looks like I get to order some new pieces next week. :-( While trying to assemble V-702/V-704/V-705 on an RV-8 emp, I keep peening over the rivets rather than making a nice level shop head. Any clues what I"m doing wrong? Gun is a 3X, 45PSI, offset. It sure looks like I'm driving it straight, but I'm obviously not doing something properly. Drilling out the last one ended up putting a badly oblong hole in the pieces, so they are now trash. -- Alan Reichert Priv, Inst, SEL RV-8 N927AR (reserved) Prepping Horizontal/Vertical Stabilizers for Assembly (I thought....)




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