Today's Message Index:
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1. 04:08 AM - Re: Elevator Stiffeners (Kevin Horton)
2. 05:08 AM - Oil cooler mounting (Ted D. Hultzapple)
3. 05:50 AM - Re: Oil cooler mounting (Richard McBride)
4. 05:50 AM - Re: Oil cooler mounting (linn walters)
5. 06:02 AM - momentary burp (Frazier, Vincent A)
6. 06:25 AM - Re: Elevator Stiffeners (Allen Fulmer)
7. 07:17 AM - Re: Oil cooler mounting (Kevin Horton)
8. 07:52 AM - Re: Oil cooler mounting (Richard McBride)
9. 07:59 AM - Re: momentary burp (Scott Jackson)
10. 08:14 AM - Re: Elevator Stiffeners (Rob Prior (rv7))
11. 10:07 AM - RV-8 Seat Cushions (Ron Schreck)
12. 11:02 AM - Re: RV-8 Seat Cushions (Scott Bilinski)
13. 12:06 PM - Re: RV-8 Seat Cushions (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky))
14. 12:11 PM - Re: Oil cooler mounting (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
15. 01:02 PM - Re: RV-8 Seat Cushions (Mickey Coggins)
16. 01:44 PM - Re: Reamer (LarryRosen@comcast.net)
17. 06:41 PM - Garmin 396 (Nick Nafsinger)
18. 07:28 PM - Re: Garmin 396 (Mark)
19. 09:06 PM - Re: Garmin 396 (Nick Nafsinger)
20. 09:13 PM - Looking for Ken Balch (Bill VonDane)
21. 09:17 PM - Looking for photos... (Bill VonDane)
22. 11:11 PM - Attention Southwestern RV flyers!! (Greg Grigson)
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Stiffeners |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
On 19 Jul 2005, at 24:23, MLWynn@aol.com wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
>
> Hi all,
>
> I cut, primed and riveted in my elevator stiffeners over the
> weekend. On
> bending the skins, I found that several of the stiffeners were
> fractionally long.
> The bend is fine but there are a couple of little waves where the
> ends of
> the stiffeners didn't give. On more carefully reading the plans, I
> missed the
> notes where it says to trim the ends to specified lengths.
>
> At any rate, it is clecoed together and looks fine. Is this really
> okay? I
> am concerned about the ends rubbing on the skin.
>
I don't think anyone can predict whether this issue will eventually
lead to cracking or not. I think you've got three choices:
1. Stop, order new parts, and start over.
2. Finish the elevator, fly the aircraft, and if you get cracks,
build a new elevator.
3. Finish the elevator, and after you start flying order new parts
and build a replacement elevator.
I would go with option 2 or 3. Option 2 if you are happy with the
cosmetics of this elevator, and option 3 if the waves are bothering
you. Building a new elevator will go much more quickly in a few
years, when you are a more experienced builder.
Even if you get cracks after you start flying, this shouldn't be a
safety issue as long as you catch the problem before the cracks
become too large. You just need to pay close attention to this area.
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
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| Subject: | Oil cooler mounting |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ted D. Hultzapple" <thultzap@rochester.rr.com>
I am building an 8A with Sam James cowling and cooling plenum. I am looking
for the best place to install an oil cooler. It looks like most people are
placing the oil cooler behind the No. 4 cylinder on the baffling. With the
Sam James plenum, my space is somewhat limited. Is there any reason that
No. 4 cylinder is preferred over No. 3 cylinder? It seems that there is
much more space behind No. 3. I could also mount the cooler on the
firewall, but things are a bit crowded there.
Ted
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| Subject: | Oil cooler mounting |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard McBride" <rickrv8@msn.com>
Ted,
I mounted mine on the firewall behind #3. I used a larger cooler connected
to a 4" tube. The set up is similar to the one on Greg Hale's web site. My
oil temps have been in the 180 to 190 range on a 90 degree day.
Rick McBride
>From: "Ted D. Hultzapple" <thultzap@rochester.rr.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Oil cooler mounting
>Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:04:13 -0400
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Ted D. Hultzapple"
><thultzap@rochester.rr.com>
>
>I am building an 8A with Sam James cowling and cooling plenum. I am looking
>for the best place to install an oil cooler. It looks like most people are
>placing the oil cooler behind the No. 4 cylinder on the baffling. With the
>Sam James plenum, my space is somewhat limited. Is there any reason that
>No. 4 cylinder is preferred over No. 3 cylinder? It seems that there is
>much more space behind No. 3. I could also mount the cooler on the
>firewall, but things are a bit crowded there.
>Ted
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oil cooler mounting |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
Ted, #3 is typically the hottest cylinder and carries the distinction of
having the lowest exhaust valve cooling oil flow. Stealing air from #3
should be done carefully. The fact you have a plenum instead of
standard cowl seal will help tremendously if the plenum is well sealed
...... including around the nose of the engine.
Linn
do not archive
Ted D. Hultzapple wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Ted D. Hultzapple" <thultzap@rochester.rr.com>
>
>I am building an 8A with Sam James cowling and cooling plenum. I am looking
>for the best place to install an oil cooler. It looks like most people are
>placing the oil cooler behind the No. 4 cylinder on the baffling. With the
>Sam James plenum, my space is somewhat limited. Is there any reason that
>No. 4 cylinder is preferred over No. 3 cylinder? It seems that there is
>much more space behind No. 3. I could also mount the cooler on the
>firewall, but things are a bit crowded there.
>Ted
>
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
SNIP*******There is no problem with leaving the electronic fuel pump all
the time. It is designed for continuous use. If that removes the
stumble, why not leave it on? I think peace of mind would be important
also to any passenger.
**********
> Folks:
> I've been riding the right-seat since first flight of a new RV-6 with
an
> 0-320-E2D, carburetted.
> The engine has displayed a momentary burp-not really a miss- every
single
> flight when the power is reduced from full throttle. Even flying
> circuits, it
> will do it at the top of every climb, as soon as the throttle is
brought
> back
> from full.***********
If you leave the boost pump on to mask the problem, what do you do when
the boost pump fails and the problem has unexpectedly worsened???????
Not such a great idea.
I had a similar problem with my RV-4, even after the carb was freshly
overhauled. Talking to the technicians at El Reno quickly identified
the problem... an incorrect nozzle... easily replaced in about 5 minutes
with the carb still installed. Problem was gone and never returned.
Vince
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| Subject: | Elevator Stiffeners |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Allen Fulmer" <afulmer@charter.net>
If you are talking about the angled edge of the flanges hitting the opposite
skin, you could remove the clecos and reach inside with a small dremel
grinder and trim the reinforcing ribs a little.
Allen Fulmer
RV7 Wings (QB Fuse on hand)
N808AF reserved
Alexander City, AL
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kevin Horton
Subject: Re: RV-List: Elevator Stiffeners
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
On 19 Jul 2005, at 24:23, MLWynn@aol.com wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
>
> Hi all,
>
> I cut, primed and riveted in my elevator stiffeners over the
> weekend. On
> bending the skins, I found that several of the stiffeners were
> fractionally long.
> The bend is fine but there are a couple of little waves where the
> ends of
> the stiffeners didn't give. On more carefully reading the plans, I
> missed the
> notes where it says to trim the ends to specified lengths.
>
> At any rate, it is clecoed together and looks fine. Is this really
> okay? I
> am concerned about the ends rubbing on the skin.
>
I don't think anyone can predict whether this issue will eventually
lead to cracking or not. I think you've got three choices:
1. Stop, order new parts, and start over.
2. Finish the elevator, fly the aircraft, and if you get cracks,
build a new elevator.
3. Finish the elevator, and after you start flying order new parts
and build a replacement elevator.
I would go with option 2 or 3. Option 2 if you are happy with the
cosmetics of this elevator, and option 3 if the waves are bothering
you. Building a new elevator will go much more quickly in a few
years, when you are a more experienced builder.
Even if you get cracks after you start flying, this shouldn't be a
safety issue as long as you catch the problem before the cracks
become too large. You just need to pay close attention to this area.
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
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| Subject: | Re: Oil cooler mounting |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
Ted and Rick,
Which engine models do you have? Does your engine have jets spraying
oil on the piston bottoms?
IO-360s with jets spraying oil on the bottom of the pistons put a lot
more heat in the oil than O-360s without such jets. A cooler setup
that works on an O-360 might not be good enough for an IO-360.
Kevin Horton
On 19 Jul 2005, at 08:47, Richard McBride wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard McBride" <rickrv8@msn.com>
>
> Ted,
>
> I mounted mine on the firewall behind #3. I used a larger cooler
> connected
> to a 4" tube. The set up is similar to the one on Greg Hale's web
> site. My
> oil temps have been in the 180 to 190 range on a 90 degree day.
>
> Rick McBride
>
>
>> From: "Ted D. Hultzapple" <thultzap@rochester.rr.com>
>> Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>> To: rv-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV-List: Oil cooler mounting
>> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:04:13 -0400
>>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ted D. Hultzapple"
>> <thultzap@rochester.rr.com>
>>
>> I am building an 8A with Sam James cowling and cooling plenum. I
>> am looking
>> for the best place to install an oil cooler. It looks like most
>> people are
>> placing the oil cooler behind the No. 4 cylinder on the baffling.
>> With the
>> Sam James plenum, my space is somewhat limited. Is there any
>> reason that
>> No. 4 cylinder is preferred over No. 3 cylinder? It seems that
>> there is
>> much more space behind No. 3. I could also mount the cooler on the
>> firewall, but things are a bit crowded there.
>> Ted
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oil cooler mounting |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard McBride" <rickrv8@msn.com>
Kevin,
I have a 1200 hour IO360-A3B6D with the D removed. I believe that model
does have the oil jets but am not 100% certain. The oil cooler I used is
sized for a 540 engine. I pretty much copied Greg Hale's set up and am
quite pleased with the results. I also installed a butterfly valve in the
cooler plenum and accordingly, can easily adjust the oil temp.
Rick McBride
>From: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Oil cooler mounting
>Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:13:50 -0400
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
>
>Ted and Rick,
>
>Which engine models do you have? Does your engine have jets spraying
>oil on the piston bottoms?
>
>IO-360s with jets spraying oil on the bottom of the pistons put a lot
>more heat in the oil than O-360s without such jets. A cooler setup
>that works on an O-360 might not be good enough for an IO-360.
>
>Kevin Horton
>
>On 19 Jul 2005, at 08:47, Richard McBride wrote:
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard McBride" <rickrv8@msn.com>
> >
> > Ted,
> >
> > I mounted mine on the firewall behind #3. I used a larger cooler
> > connected
> > to a 4" tube. The set up is similar to the one on Greg Hale's web
> > site. My
> > oil temps have been in the 180 to 190 range on a 90 degree day.
> >
> > Rick McBride
> >
> >
> >> From: "Ted D. Hultzapple" <thultzap@rochester.rr.com>
> >> Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >> Subject: RV-List: Oil cooler mounting
> >> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:04:13 -0400
> >>
> >> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ted D. Hultzapple"
> >> <thultzap@rochester.rr.com>
> >>
> >> I am building an 8A with Sam James cowling and cooling plenum. I
> >> am looking
> >> for the best place to install an oil cooler. It looks like most
> >> people are
> >> placing the oil cooler behind the No. 4 cylinder on the baffling.
> >> With the
> >> Sam James plenum, my space is somewhat limited. Is there any
> >> reason that
> >> No. 4 cylinder is preferred over No. 3 cylinder? It seems that
> >> there is
> >> much more space behind No. 3. I could also mount the cooler on the
> >> firewall, but things are a bit crowded there.
> >> Ted
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: momentary burp |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Scott Jackson" <jayeandscott@telus.net>
By "incorrect nozzle" do you mean the main jet?
Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
Subject: RV-List: momentary burp
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Frazier, Vincent A" <VFrazier@usi.edu>
>
> SNIP*******There is no problem with leaving the electronic fuel pump all
> the time. It is designed for continuous use. If that removes the
> stumble, why not leave it on? I think peace of mind would be important
> also to any passenger.
> **********
>> Folks:
>> I've been riding the right-seat since first flight of a new RV-6 with
> an
>> 0-320-E2D, carburetted.
>> The engine has displayed a momentary burp-not really a miss- every
> single
>> flight when the power is reduced from full throttle. Even flying
>> circuits, it
>> will do it at the top of every climb, as soon as the throttle is
> brought
>> back
>> from full.***********
>
>
> If you leave the boost pump on to mask the problem, what do you do when
> the boost pump fails and the problem has unexpectedly worsened???????
> Not such a great idea.
>
> I had a similar problem with my RV-4, even after the carb was freshly
> overhauled. Talking to the technicians at El Reno quickly identified
> the problem... an incorrect nozzle... easily replaced in about 5 minutes
> with the carb still installed. Problem was gone and never returned.
>
> Vince
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Elevator Stiffeners |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Rob Prior (rv7)" <rv7@b4.ca>
On 6:21:41 2005-07-19 "Allen Fulmer" <afulmer@charter.net> wrote:
> If you are talking about the angled edge of the flanges hitting the
> opposite skin, you could remove the clecos and reach inside with a
> small dremel grinder and trim the reinforcing ribs a little.
I would make it even easier... Reach in with a pair of tin-snips and trim
the corners off. Then just shoot some of your handy touch-up primer
(SW988, Marhyde, etc.) into a plastic cup and use a cotton swab or brush to
dab it on the exposed edges. Don't worry about any teeth-marks left by the
tinsnips, or any slight curve they leave on the cut edge. That part of the
stringer is so lightly loaded that neither of these will be problematic.
-Rob P
> Allen Fulmer
> RV7 Wings (QB Fuse on hand)
> N808AF reserved
> Alexander City, AL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kevin Horton
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Elevator Stiffeners
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
>
> On 19 Jul 2005, at 24:23, MLWynn@aol.com wrote:
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I cut, primed and riveted in my elevator stiffeners over the
> > weekend. On
> > bending the skins, I found that several of the stiffeners were
> > fractionally long.
> > The bend is fine but there are a couple of little waves where the
> > ends of
> > the stiffeners didn't give. On more carefully reading the plans, I
> > missed the
> > notes where it says to trim the ends to specified lengths.
> >
> > At any rate, it is clecoed together and looks fine. Is this really
> > okay? I
> > am concerned about the ends rubbing on the skin.
> >
>
> I don't think anyone can predict whether this issue will eventually
> lead to cracking or not. I think you've got three choices:
>
> 1. Stop, order new parts, and start over.
>
> 2. Finish the elevator, fly the aircraft, and if you get cracks,
> build a new elevator.
>
> 3. Finish the elevator, and after you start flying order new parts
> and build a replacement elevator.
>
> I would go with option 2 or 3. Option 2 if you are happy with the
> cosmetics of this elevator, and option 3 if the waves are bothering
> you. Building a new elevator will go much more quickly in a few
> years, when you are a more experienced builder.
>
> Even if you get cracks after you start flying, this shouldn't be a
> safety issue as long as you catch the problem before the cracks
> become too large. You just need to pay close attention to this area.
>
>
> Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
> Ottawa, Canada
> http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
>
>
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| Subject: | RV-8 Seat Cushions |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck@alltel.net>
Listers,
I bought a set of Van's RV-8 seat cushions and had them delivered to Abby at
Flightline Interiors for upholstering. They just arrived here last week and
Abby did a marvelous job. Unfortunately, they don't fit well. She used Van's
patterns to cut the upholstery and expertly covered the cushions as supplied
from Van's. The front and rear seat backs fit fine if they go all the way to
the floor, but then the seat cushions are too long (front to back). If I put
the seat cushions in first so they go all the way to the back support then
the back cushions, which now sit on top of the seat cushions, are too tall!
I emailed Vans and they promptly replied. Basically said that they covered
their RV-8 cushions as supplied and they fit fine. Sorry yours don't fit...period.
I called Abby and she couldn't be nicer. She said she has recently done several
RV-8 cushions from Vans but didn't know if anyone else has tried to fit
them in their airplane yet. She said she will call her other customers and see
if they have a problem. Regardless, she vowed to make them right.
A few questions for those of you who have purchased Van's RV-8 cushions:
1. Did you have to trim them in any way before covering?
2. Did you cut a hole for the crotch straps or route them in front of the
seat cushions?
3. Did you cut holes for the front seat belts or route them around the seat
back cushion.
4. Do your seat back cushions sit on top of the seat cushions or go all the
way to the cockpit floor?
5. Does your chewing gum loose it's flavor on the bedpost overnight? (er...
guess I'm out of questions.)
Thanks for the help Listers.
Ron Schreck
Painting
Panel Cutting/Wiring
Teeth Gnashing
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| Subject: | Re: RV-8 Seat Cushions |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
I am 6'3" tall and needed to remove 2" from the height of the cushions, so
pilot height also comes into play, tall or short. This was in an RV-8a.
At 12:58 PM 7/19/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Schreck" <ronschreck@alltel.net>
>
>Listers,
> I bought a set of Van's RV-8 seat cushions and had them delivered to
> Abby at Flightline Interiors for upholstering. They just arrived here
> last week and Abby did a marvelous job. Unfortunately, they don't fit
> well. She used Van's patterns to cut the upholstery and expertly covered
> the cushions as supplied from Van's. The front and rear seat backs fit
> fine if they go all the way to the floor, but then the seat cushions are
> too long (front to back). If I put the seat cushions in first so they
> go all the way to the back support then the back cushions, which now sit
> on top of the seat cushions, are too tall!
> I emailed Vans and they promptly replied. Basically said that they
> covered their RV-8 cushions as supplied and they fit fine. Sorry yours
> don't fit...period.
> I called Abby and she couldn't be nicer. She said she has recently
> done several RV-8 cushions from Vans but didn't know if anyone else has
> tried to fit them in their airplane yet. She said she will call her
> other customers and see if they have a problem. Regardless, she vowed to
> make them right.
> A few questions for those of you who have purchased Van's RV-8 cushions:
> 1. Did you have to trim them in any way before covering?
> 2. Did you cut a hole for the crotch straps or route them in front
> of the seat cushions?
> 3. Did you cut holes for the front seat belts or route them around
> the seat back cushion.
> 4. Do your seat back cushions sit on top of the seat cushions or go
> all the way to the cockpit floor?
> 5. Does your chewing gum loose it's flavor on the bedpost
> overnight? (er... guess I'm out of questions.)
>
>Thanks for the help Listers.
>
>Ron Schreck
>Painting
>Panel Cutting/Wiring
>Teeth Gnashing
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: RV-8 Seat Cushions |
--> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)
Hi Ron,
In short, yes, I have the same problem with my Van's RV8 seats which Abby also
covered for me. I haven't done anything about it yet. Still head scratching
but thanks for telling me in advance what Van's will say. They'll probably tell
me "first they heard of it" ;-)
The seat back cushions ARE designed to go all the way down to the floor and that
would be consistent with what Clevaland and other interior cushion designers
do.
I think that's what you want to do as well regardless of how you fix the problems.
Right now I have to really cram and squish the cushions to get them in their
more or less desired positions. They don't want to stay there.
For the pilot's seat bottom cushion, you have to mark a line for where Abby would
have slit the cushion for the crotch strap. Not needed for the back seat dut
to different design. Also, front seat belts will go around the pilot's back
support structure, not through it for me. Same as most other planes I have
seen.
I pretty much gave up on chewing gum. Hurts my jaws now a days.
Let me know what you end up doing.
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski
>
> I am 6'3" tall and needed to remove 2" from the height of the cushions, so
> pilot height also comes into play, tall or short. This was in an RV-8a.
>
>
> At 12:58 PM 7/19/2005 -0400, you wrote:
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Schreck"
> >
> >Listers,
> > I bought a set of Van's RV-8 seat cushions and had them delivered to
> > Abby at Flightline Interiors for upholstering. They just arrived here
> > last week and Abby did a marvelous job. Unfortunately, they don't fit
> > well. She used Van's patterns to cut the upholstery and expertly covered
> > the cushions as supplied from Van's. The front and rear seat backs fit
> > fine if they go all the way to the floor, but then the seat cushions are
> > too long (front to back). If I put the seat cushions in first so they
> > go all the way to the back support then the back cushions, which now sit
> > on top of the seat cushions, are too tall!
> > I emailed Vans and they promptly replied. Basically said that they
> > covered their RV-8 cushions as supplied and they fit fine. Sorry yours
> > don't fit...period.
> > I called Abby and she couldn't be nicer. She said she has recently
> > done several RV-8 cushions from Vans but didn't know if anyone else has
> > tried to fit them in their airplane yet. She said she will call her
> > other customers and see if they have a problem. Regardless, she vowed to
> > make them right.
> > A few questions for those of you who have purchased Van's RV-8 cushions:
> > 1. Did you have to trim them in any way before covering?
> > 2. Did you cut a hole for the crotch straps or route them in front
> > of the seat cushions?
> > 3. Did you cut holes for the front seat belts or route them around
> > the seat back cushion.
> > 4. Do your seat back cushions sit on top of the seat cushions or go
> > all the way to the cockpit floor?
> > 5. Does your chewing gum loose it's flavor on the bedpost
> > overnight? (er... guess I'm out of questions.)
> >
> >Thanks for the help Listers.
> >
> >Ron Schreck
> >Painting
> >Panel Cutting/Wiring
> >Teeth Gnashing
> >
> >
>
>
> Scott Bilinski
> Eng dept 305
> Phone (858) 657-2536
> Pager (858) 502-5190
>
>
>
>
>
>
Hi Ron,
In short, yes, I have the same problem with my Van's RV8 seats which Abby also
covered for me. I haven't done anything about it yet. Still head scratching but
thanks for telling me in advance what Van's will say. They'll probably tell
me "first they heard of it";-)
The seat back cushions ARE designed to go all the way down to the floor and that
would be consistent with what Clevaland and other interior cushion designers
do.
I think that's what you want to do as well regardless of how you fix the problems.
Right now I have to really cram and squish the cushions to get them in their
more or less desired positions. They don't want to stay there.
For the pilot's seat bottom cushion, you have to mark a line for where Abby would
have slit the cushion for the crotch strap. Not needed for the back seat dut
to different design. Also, front seat belts will go around the pilot's back
support structure, not through it for me. Same as most other planes I have seen.
Iprettymuch gave up on chewinggum.Hurts my jaws now a days.
Let me know what you end up doing.
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-- RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <BILINSKI@KYOCERA-WIRELESS.COM>
I am 6'3" tall and needed to remove 2" from the height of the cushions, so
pilot height also comes into play, tall or short. This was in an RV-8a.
At 12:58 PM 7/19/2005 -0400, you wrote:
-- RV-List message posted by: "Ron Schreck" <RONSCHRECK@ALLTEL.NET>
Listers,
I bought a set of Van's RV-8 seat cushions and had them delivered to
Abby at Flightline Interiors for upholstering. They just arrived here
last week and Abby did a marvelous job. Unfortunately, they don't fit
well. She used Van's patterns to cut the upholstery and expertly covered
the cushions as supplied from Van's. The front and rear seat backs fit
fine if they go all the way to the floor, but t
hen the seat cushions are
too long (front to back). If I put the seat cushions in first so they
go all the way to the back support then the back cushions, which now sit
on top of the seat cushions, are too tall!
I emailed Vans and they promptly replied. Basically said that they
covered their RV-8 cushions as supplied and they fit fine. Sorry yours
don't fit...period.
I called Abby and she couldn't be nicer. She said she has recently
done several RV-8 cushions from Vans but didn't know if anyone else has
tried to fit them in their airplane yet. She said she will call her
other customers and see if they have a problem. Regardless, she vowed to
make them right.
A few questions for those of you who have purchased Van's RV-8 cushions:
1. Did you have to trim them in any way before covering?
&
gt; 2. Did you cut a hole for the crotch straps or route them in front
of the seat cushions?
3. Did you cut holes for the front seat belts or route them around
the seat back cushion.
4. Do your seat back cushions sit on top of the seat cushions or go
all the way to the cockpit floor?
5. Does your chewing gum loose it's flavor on the bedpost
overnight? (er... guess I'm out of questions.)
Thanks for the help Listers.
Ron Schreck
Painting
Panel Cutting/Wiring
Teeth Gnashing
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
Hi Ted- here's an option that should work for the James plenum- a friend
building a Mustang II with same plenum is doing likewise:
http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=5000
Mark Phillips
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| Subject: | Re: RV-8 Seat Cushions |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
For those of you that don't want to mess with all these seat
cushion problems, I'm selling some "ready-made" seats for
the RV8 on Ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&category=26439&item=4562987484
They are really great for people that are not too wide
in the hips.
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 finishing
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--> RV-List message posted by: LarryRosen@comcast.net
I purchased my reamers from Brown Aircraft tool http://www.browntool.com/. Quality reamer at a good price.
Larry Rosen
RV-10 #356
<http://home.comcast.net/~rv10pilot/>
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> --> RV-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner"
>
>
> Good sources of aircraft tools are these guys among several others.
> My first choice is always to deal with those companies who are aviation
> oriented and who support the various get-togethers like Oshkosh, Arlington,
> Copperstate, etc. whenever possible. If you attend some of these events, you
> will often see and meet the principles in these companies. They will often
> go the extra mile to meet your needs.
> Albert Gardner
> RV-9A N872RV
> Yuma, AZ
>
> http://www.averytools.com
> http://www.cleavelandtool.com
> http://www.ustool.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
I purchased my reamers from Brown Aircraft tool http://www.browntool.com/. Quality reamer at a good price.
Larry Rosen
RV-10 #356
http://home.comcast.net/~rv10pilot/
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-- RV-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" <IBSPUD@ADELPHIA.NET>
Good sources of aircraft tools are these guys among several others.
My first choice is always to deal with those companies who are aviation
oriented and who support the various get-togethers like Oshkosh, Arlington,
Copperstate, etc. whenever possible. If you attend some of these events, you
will often see and meet the principles in these companies. They will often
go the extra mile to meet your needs.
Albert Gardner
RV-9A N872RV
Yuma, AZ
http://www.averytools.com
http://www.cleavelandtool.com
http://www.ustool.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Nick Nafsinger" <nick@creteaviation.com>
Alright all, I have in my hands the (to my knowledge) first customer
G396. First impressions are beyond words, this thing rocks. If
anyone has questions on how it does what, feel free to ask!
Sry, I=92m just excited about the new toy!
Nick
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Mark" <2eyedocs@comcast.net>
Thanks for the future PIREPS! Is the Wx antenna located internally, or do you
have to have a cable going to the glareshield? If it is internal, how good is
the reception? I currently am using a portable XM Wx solution and I find that
the antenna can be anywhere in the back seat of the plane and it picks up the
satellites just fine.
With the screen resolution on the 396, how does Nexrad display when zoomed in a
bit. I am using a tablet at 1024x768 and anything closer in that 50nm presents
in blocks.
Is it difficult to setup the connection to XM Wx, or do you just turn the unit
on? Also, how long does it take to acquire data after the unit is turned on?
Have fun with your new toy. This is tops on my wishlist for "accessories"!
Thanks,
Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Nafsinger
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:40 PM
Subject: RV-List: Garmin 396
--> RV-List message posted by: "Nick Nafsinger" <nick@creteaviation.com>
Alright all, I have in my hands the (to my knowledge) first customer
G396. First impressions are beyond words, this thing rocks. If
anyone has questions on how it does what, feel free to ask!
Sry, I92m just excited about the new toy!
Nick
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Nick Nafsinger" <nick@creteaviation.com>
Mark,
The XM antenna (for both music and WX) is a separate unit that plugs
into the USB port on the GPS. Apparently it's more than an antenna; it
receives and processes all the XM info. The cord on the XM antenna is
aprox 4' Garmin also includes a 7' extension.
Reception: Amazing. I've been playing with it indoors and if you are
quite literally within 4' or a window it manages to get 2 bars (out of
4?). Sitting on my couch with the Antenna at my feet about 7-8 feet
from the window it still managed to grab 1 bar. With 1 bar the weather
will work, but Music will Skip, 2 bars and everything is rock solid.
Resolution: The resolution is what I would call "very good". I've
been fortunate enough to use XM Weather on the MX20 and Avidyne EX500,
and would say the resolution is as good / better. I've taken some
screen shots so you can compare for yourself. (and yes, its in WX
Simulation mode... sry but there's the weather around here is too nice
tonight!)
WX Setup: Totally simple. Plug in the XM Antenna, the GPS recognizes
it and starts to display weather. You can control what you see, and
also go to the WX page to find specific items. From Plug in to first
images took me about 2-3 minutes. Thats for Nexrad, Metar's start
coming in about a minute after that. You do have to call or go to XM's
site to activate your account first. Without an account you do not get
any weather, but do get the XM Radio Preview and Emergency Channel.
I put a few pictures here:
http://checkoway.com/url/?s=809afa38
Hope this helps!
Nick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Subject: Re: RV-List: Garmin 396
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mark" <2eyedocs@comcast.net>
Thanks for the future PIREPS! Is the Wx antenna located internally, or
do you have to have a cable going to the glareshield? If it is
internal, how good is the reception? I currently am using a portable XM
Wx solution and I find that the antenna can be anywhere in the back seat
of the plane and it picks up the satellites just fine.
With the screen resolution on the 396, how does Nexrad display when
zoomed in a bit. I am using a tablet at 1024x768 and anything closer
in that 50nm presents in blocks.
Is it difficult to setup the connection to XM Wx, or do you just turn
the unit on? Also, how long does it take to acquire data after the
unit is turned on?
Have fun with your new toy. This is tops on my wishlist for
"accessories"!
Thanks,
Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Nafsinger
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:40 PM
Subject: RV-List: Garmin 396
--> RV-List message posted by: "Nick Nafsinger"
<nick@creteaviation.com>
Alright all, I have in my hands the (to my knowledge) first customer
G396. First impressions are beyond words, this thing rocks. If
anyone has questions on how it does what, feel free to ask!
Sry, I92m just excited about the new toy!
Nick
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| Subject: | Looking for Ken Balch |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
I'm looking for Ken Balch... Anyone have his contact info?
Email me... bill@vondane.com
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| Subject: | Looking for photos... |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill VonDane" <bill@vondane.com>
Hey all...
I am building a new web site for CreativAir and am looking for some
air-to-air photos of RV's with my lights installed if possible for the
site...
Drop me a line if you can help...
Thanks!
-Bill VonDane
www.creativair.com
www.epanelbuilder.com
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| Subject: | Attention Southwestern RV flyers!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com>
I am looking for help to start the flight test phase
of my RV-6A. I need 2-3 hours dual in an RV tri-gear
for insurance puposes. No aircraft exist in the
Hawaiian Islands......yet.
I will be in the New Mexico area on vacation August
3rd to 13th. Is there a kind soul out there willing
to help?
This is an opportunity to make a friend for life.
P.S. I have the cash to cover your expenses.
Mahalo,
Greg In Honolulu
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