---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 07/21/05: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:03 AM - Re: Control Stick Grip (Paul Besing) 2. 06:51 AM - Re: Control Stick Grip (LarryRobertHelming) 3. 07:16 AM - Copperstate 05 (Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR) 4. 07:18 AM - Re: Control Stick Grip (Bobby Hester) 5. 07:49 AM - Re: Copperstate 05 (Scott Bilinski) 6. 08:34 AM - Re: Garmin 396 (Hull, Don) 7. 08:57 AM - Re: Garmin 396 (Rob Prior (rv7)) 8. 09:37 AM - Re: lower cowl fit to FAB schnozzle (rv6fly) 9. 10:02 AM - Re: Copperstate 05 (jdwilson16) 10. 10:43 AM - Re: E-703/Elevator skin mis-match (cecilth@juno.com) 11. 12:35 PM - Re: Got an interesting engine problem/solution and a ? (Skylor Piper) 12. 05:42 PM - whiskeybravo.com (Matt Johnson) 13. 08:35 PM - Re: Control Stick Grip (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 14. 08:37 PM - Re: lower cowl fit to FAB schnozzle (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 15. 09:02 PM - Re: lower cowl fit to FAB schnozzle (rv6fly) 16. 09:40 PM - Control Stick Length (DEAN PSIROPOULOS) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:03:25 AM PST US From: "Paul Besing" Subject: RE: RV-List: Control Stick Grip --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" You can't go wrong with Infinity Aero's grips. They are top notch quality, and he can build them custom to however you like with just about any switch combination. I didn't end up using many of the switches, but I loved having the trim and flaps on the switch. Paul Besing RV-6A Sold Kitlog Builder's Software www.kitlog.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of flynlow Subject: RV-List: Control Stick Grip --> RV-List message posted by: "flynlow" Hello Group; Now this may sound like a stupid question at first but think about it. I see a lot of military control stick grips on Ebay, usually over $200! Has anyone ever attempted to use a "game" type of joy stick grip and adapt it to an RV? Yes they are lighter in weight, but if disassembled, could one be filled with fiberglass jelly to strengthen it? Could the switches be adapted? Let me know what you all think. Bud Silvers Black Forest, Colorado RV-8 underway. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:51:00 AM PST US From: "LarryRobertHelming" Subject: Re: RV-List: Control Stick Grip --> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" Mark: Yea, right....... I do that full forward dive while full right stick roll move all the time myself. NOT...:-) It was a dream I think -- probably a bad one. I can only imagine what it feels and looks like. Wonder if I would recover or if the wings and tail would still be attached. How fast you enter into this is probably real important. Seriously, what kind of flying you doing anyway and who you got insurance with and how do you tie everything down inside the cockpit and what kind of seatbelt/harnesses you use and what parachute do you wear? no not archive for obvious reasons. Have a nice day and keep cool. 95 and 90% humidity for today, tomorrow, and the day after that in So. Indiana. Good day to go swimming or flying high. Seriously....... Indiana Larry, RV7 Tip Up It Flies Teamwork: " A lot of people doing exactly what I say." (Marketing exec., Citrix Corp.) ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: RV-List: Control Stick Grip > --> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com > > In a message dated 07/20/2005 4:56:43 PM Central Standard Time, > dwhite17@columbus.rr.com writes: > We tried the CH Products grip on our RV6. The grip cants forward, and we > were not able to use because we put a lower extension on our panel and the > grip would hit it before hitting the stops. >>>> > > Same situation with mine- would just barely touch the throttle when in a > full > right bank & full dive, DAR didn't like it- just whacked a bit off the > stick > til it fit and he was happy- Just LOVE my CH grips! > > Mark Phillips -6A > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:16:53 AM PST US From: "Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR" Subject: RV-List: Copperstate 05 --> RV-List message posted by: "Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR" Can somebody tell me when the Copperstate flyin will be, and the airport designator? I've got some vacation time that I have to use and thought that it might be nice to go this year..... Fred Stucklen RV-6A N926RV 445 Hrs - 2'd offender ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:18:34 AM PST US From: "Bobby Hester" Subject: Re: RV-List: Control Stick Grip --> RV-List message posted by: "Bobby Hester" I can see how a DAR would not sign off if anything interfered with the stick movement, I'm sure the one I plan on using would not allow it. Hack saw in hand! Oh and by the way, I don't think your really flying yet, I have seen you ;-) ------- Surfing the web from Hopkinsville, KY RV7A web site: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Larryroberthelming wrote... >--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" > >Mark: Yea, right....... I do that full forward dive while full right stick >roll move all the time myself. NOT...:-) It was a dream I think -- >probably a bad one. I can only imagine what it feels and looks like. >Wonder if I would recover or if the wings and tail would still be attached. >How fast you enter into this is probably real important. > >Seriously, what kind of flying you doing anyway and who you got insurance >with and how do you tie everything down inside the cockpit and what kind of >seatbelt/harnesses you use and what parachute do you wear? no not archive >for obvious reasons. Have a nice day and keep cool. 95 and 90% humidity >for today, tomorrow, and the day after that in So. Indiana. Good day to go >swimming or flying high. Seriously....... > >Indiana Larry, RV7 Tip Up It Flies > >Teamwork: " A lot of people doing exactly what I say." > (Marketing exec., Citrix Corp.) > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Subject: Re: RV-List: Control Stick Grip > > >> --> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com >> >> In a message dated 07/20/2005 4:56:43 PM Central Standard Time, >> dwhite17@columbus.rr.com writes: >> We tried the CH Products grip on our RV6. The grip cants forward, and we >> were not able to use because we put a lower extension on our panel and the >> grip would hit it before hitting the stops. >>>>> >> >> Same situation with mine- would just barely touch the throttle when in a >> full >> right bank & full dive, DAR didn't like it- just whacked a bit off the >> stick >> til it fit and he was happy- Just LOVE my CH grips! >> >> Mark Phillips -6A >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:53 AM PST US From: Scott Bilinski Subject: Re: RV-List: Copperstate 05 --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski http://www.copperstate.org/ At 10:13 AM 7/21/2005 -0400, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR" > > >Can somebody tell me when the Copperstate flyin will be, and the airport >designator? >I've got some vacation time that I have to use and thought that it might be >nice to >go this year..... > >Fred Stucklen >RV-6A N926RV >445 Hrs - 2'd offender > > Scott Bilinski Eng dept 305 Phone (858) 657-2536 Pager (858) 502-5190 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:34:52 AM PST US From: "Hull, Don" Subject: RE: RV-List: Garmin 396 --> RV-List message posted by: "Hull, Don" Ooooh, and to think this is going to be "old technology" by the time I get my 7 flying! :-( You guys be good to your 396's...when you upgrade to the next generation, I may want to buy one of your used 396's!!! ; ) I need to get to the shop and pound some more rivets... Don -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Terry Watson Subject: RE: RV-List: Garmin 396 --> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" Aviation Consumer just published a lengthy review of the 396 on their website. Bottom line is they like it -- a lot. Terry ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:57:13 AM PST US From: "Rob Prior (rv7)" Subject: RE: RV-List: Garmin 396 --> RV-List message posted by: "Rob Prior (rv7)" On 8:31:46 2005-07-21 "Hull, Don" wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Hull, Don" > Ooooh, and to think this is going to be "old technology" by the time > I get my 7 flying! :-( You guys be good to your 396's...when you > upgrade to the next generation, I may want to buy one of your used > 396's!!! ; ) Just keep reminding yourself how much cheaper it will be used than it is new... :) -Rob do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:37:47 AM PST US From: rv6fly Subject: Re: RV-List: lower cowl fit to FAB schnozzle --> RV-List message posted by: rv6fly Fiveonepw@aol.com wrote: >Here's an alternative ya might want to try: > >http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=5296 > >Click "Next Entry" at the top of the page for more- works great, simple to do >& you don't even have to think about the inlet seals when messing with the >cowl... > >Mark > I was just going to suggest what you posted, Mark :-) Another help for cowl removal is to make the horizontal baffles that fit under the lip of the bottom cowl removable. I used a couple of #6 stainless screws per side. Bob Skinner RV6 (sold) (also built a Glasair and helped with 2 Glastar projects and 4 or 5 RV projects) -- ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:02:04 AM PST US From: "jdwilson16" Subject: RE: RV-List: Copperstate 05 --> RV-List message posted by: "jdwilson16" COPPERSTATE 2005 is October 6-9. It moved to the Casa Grande Municipal Airport (CGZ). Come join us. http://www.copperstate.org/ -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR Subject: RV-List: Copperstate 05 --> RV-List message posted by: "Stucklen, Frederic W UTPWR" Can somebody tell me when the Copperstate flyin will be, and the airport designator? I've got some vacation time that I have to use and thought that it might be nice to go this year..... Fred Stucklen RV-6A N926RV 445 Hrs - 2'd offender ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:43:21 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: E-703/Elevator skin mis-match From: cecilth@juno.com --> RV-List message posted by: cecilth@juno.com Call Vans, Help is what they do best. Cecil On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 23:03:02 EDT MLWynn@aol.com writes: > --> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com > > In a message dated 7/20/2005 5:32:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > kboatright1@comcast.net writes: > Is there any chance you're installing the left elevator rib on the > right > elevator? It would be upside down and backwards in that instance, > and might > cause the kind of misalignment you're seeing. > > KB > Hi Kyle > > I don't think so. Both are the same part number and actually, when > I tried > it, both fit the left skin. I am going to take the rest of the > skeleton out > and see if there is some sort of misalignment in the spar. This is > a real > head-scratcher for me. > > Thanks, > > Michael Wynn > RV 8 in confusion. > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:35:59 PM PST US From: Skylor Piper Subject: RE: RV-List: Got an interesting engine problem/solution and a ? --> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper Maybe. Sometimes when one cylinder isn't firing, the engine stumbles & shakes so much that it's really hard to tell which cylinder isn't firing. --- Marty wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Marty" > > > > there > turning > > > True, but wouldn't it be even easier to detect a bad > plug when you > turn off the 'good' plug? ;) > > Marty > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > > > > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:42:01 PM PST US From: "Matt Johnson" Subject: RV-List: whiskeybravo.com (not processed: message from valid local sender) --> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Johnson" What happened to www.whiskeybravo.com? It has been down at least the last couple days? - Matt ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:35:40 PM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Control Stick Grip --> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com In a message dated 07/21/2005 7:54:40 AM Central Standard Time, lhelming@sigecom.net writes: 95 and 90% humidity for today, tomorrow, and the day after that in So. Indiana. Good day to go swimming or flying high. >>> I'll be flying HIGH- probably in the cool air of 10K+ tomorrow to escape TN for sunny Iowa and the Formation Flight Clinic in MCW to give the grips a real workout (highs in the 90s there too!) then on to OSH- I'll wave atcha as I go over... Keep kool! Mark do not archive ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:37:05 PM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: lower cowl fit to FAB schnozzle --> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com In a message dated 07/21/2005 10:41:51 AM Central Standard Time, rv6fly@bresnan.net writes: I was just going to suggest what you posted, Mark :-) >>>>>>>>> Hi Bob- ya mean I got it right? 8-) Mark do not archive ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:02:54 PM PST US From: rv6fly Subject: Re: RV-List: lower cowl fit to FAB schnozzle --> RV-List message posted by: rv6fly Fiveonepw@aol.com wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com > >In a message dated 07/21/2005 10:41:51 AM Central Standard Time, >rv6fly@bresnan.net writes: > I was just going to suggest what you posted, Mark :-) > > >Hi Bob- ya mean I got it right? 8-) > >Mark do not archive > > > You sure did, pardner. Anything that makes life easier is a good thing :-) Bob Do not archive_ -- ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:40:48 PM PST US From: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS" Subject: RV-List: Control Stick Length --> RV-List message posted by: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS" HI all: This thread got me to thinking.....I've seen and flown a few RV-6s with the sticks full length as provided by Van's. I like to rest my hand on my thigh and fly with my fingertips most of the time and I'd like to have my stick grip (PTT etc.) close by when doing so. So.....gotta cut the sticks off. Good or bad idea? Any suggestions as to how much to cut off? If you don't remember how much you cut off just measure up from the top of the bearing tube that the pivot bolt goes through. Tell me what your reference point is. Thanks. Dean Psiropoulos RV-6A N197DM Ahh baffles ------Original Message------------------------------------------------------ Time: 03:55:32 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV-List: Control Stick Grip --> RV-List message posted by: We tried the CH Products grip on our RV6. The grip cants forward, and we were not able to use because we put a lower extension on our panel and the grip would hit it before hitting the stops.