Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:15 AM - Ellison Roars to Life! (Greg Grigson)
2. 12:18 AM - RV-6 Wing Kit for Sale (Greg Grigson)
3. 06:14 AM - Training for Flight... (alan@reichertech.com)
4. 07:54 AM - Re: first flight (Charles Rowbotham)
5. 08:56 AM - Needed: Ride home from Osh on Sunday to Kansas City (Matthew Brandes)
6. 09:29 AM - Source for Canopy? (Roger Evenson)
7. 09:55 AM - Re: Source for Canopy? (Matthew Brandes)
8. 10:39 AM - Re: first flight (RAS)
9. 01:07 PM - Re: Training for Flight... (CBRxxDRV@aol.com)
10. 01:07 PM - Re: Source for Canopy? (CBRxxDRV@aol.com)
11. 02:44 PM - Re: Source for Canopy? (WFACT01@aol.com)
12. 05:06 PM - Re: Needed: Ride home from Osh on Sunday to Kansas City (Bill and Tami Britton)
13. 05:40 PM - Re: Training for Flight... (Mike Draper)
14. 07:25 PM - OAT Probe location (rveighta)
15. 07:45 PM - Re: OAT Probe location (linn walters)
16. 08:00 PM - Re: first flight (Alex Peterson)
17. 08:04 PM - Re: OAT Probe location (Dan Checkoway)
18. 08:17 PM - Re: first flight (Jerry Springer)
19. 08:47 PM - Re: OAT Probe location (Ron Lee)
20. 09:02 PM - Re: OAT Probe location (Terry Watson)
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| Subject: | Ellison Roars to Life! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com>
Gang,
Thanks for all the ideas and experiences on
trouble-shooting my overly rich Ellison TBI. Jim
Cone's method delivers a smooth running 2150 static
RPM without leaning. I just back the throttle off a
little from max and she runs just fine!
Greg in Honolulu
N number on
FAA inspection next month
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| Subject: | RV-6 Wing Kit for Sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com>
Contact me off list for details and photos.
Don't worry about shipping, it's free!
Greg
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| Subject: | Training for Flight... |
--> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com
I'm a long way off from first flight, but have a curiosity question...
I'm aware of some folks that offer transition training prior to first
flight in their RV. How similar is flying a Decathlon to an RV-8?
--
Alan Reichert
Priv, Inst, SEL
RV-8 N927AR (reserved)
Prepping Horizontal Stabilizers for Assembly, New Vertical Stabilizer
Parts On Order
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
Marcel,
CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !
I'm sure your fiancee is smiling.
Chuck & Dave Rowbotham
RV-8A
>From: "RAS" <deruiteraircraftservices@btinternet.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: first flight
>Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:13:05 +0100
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "RAS"
><deruiteraircraftservices@btinternet.com>
>
>Hi all,
>
>First flight today of RV7 G-XIII at Newtownards airfield, Northern Ireland.
>this is the first RV constructed in Northern Ireland. build time approx 1.5
>years. New O-360A1A, sensenich prop.empty weight 1029LBS on calibrated
>scales. Dedicated to my late fiancee Ellen Dalzell who passed away on May
>4th 2005, afetr loosing battle with cancer
>
>Marcel de Ruiter
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| Subject: | Needed: Ride home from Osh on Sunday to Kansas City |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Matthew Brandes" <matthew@n523rv.com>
I've managed to get a ride up to Osh on Thursday so now I'm trying to find a
ride home on Sunday. If anyone has an open seat coming back on Sunday, and
it going south somewhere near Kansas City (any Texans?), I'd love to hitch a
ride. You can catch me via email or on cellphone at 913-706-3087.
Matthew Brandes,
Van's RV-9A (Wiring)
#90569
http://www.n523rv.com <http://www.n523rv.com/>
EAA Chapter 1329 President
EAA Chapter 868 Web Editor
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| Subject: | Source for Canopy? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Roger Evenson" <revenson@comcast.net>
Van's gets their side-by-side canopy bubbles from an outfit in Ohio. Does anyone
know of any other sources?
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| Subject: | RE: Source for Canopy? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Matthew Brandes" <matthew@n523rv.com>
http://www.aircraftextras.com/
Scroll to bottom.
Matthew Brandes,
Van's RV-9A (Wiring)
#90569
http://www.n523rv.com <http://www.n523rv.com/>
EAA Chapter 1329 President
EAA Chapter 868 Web Editor
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| Subject: | Re: first flight |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RAS" <deruiteraircraftservices@btinternet.com>
Thanks Charles
I seriously suffer from RVgrin, we broke through the magic 200MPH this
afternoon on the second flight. This is without wheelpants or leg fairings.
It is recommended to fly without if you use factory new engines.
Marcel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: first flight
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham"
> <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
>
> Marcel,
>
> CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !
>
> I'm sure your fiancee is smiling.
>
> Chuck & Dave Rowbotham
> RV-8A
>
>>From: "RAS" <deruiteraircraftservices@btinternet.com>
>>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: RV-List: first flight
>>Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:13:05 +0100
>>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "RAS"
>><deruiteraircraftservices@btinternet.com>
>>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>First flight today of RV7 G-XIII at Newtownards airfield, Northern
>>Ireland.
>>this is the first RV constructed in Northern Ireland. build time approx
>>1.5
>>years. New O-360A1A, sensenich prop.empty weight 1029LBS on calibrated
>>scales. Dedicated to my late fiancee Ellen Dalzell who passed away on May
>>4th 2005, afetr loosing battle with cancer
>>
>>Marcel de Ruiter
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Training for Flight... |
--> RV-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com
In a message dated 7/25/05 9:16:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
alan@reichertech.com writes:
> I'm a long way off from first flight, but have a curiosity question...
>
> I'm aware of some folks that offer transition training prior to first
> flight in their RV. How similar is flying a Decathlon to an RV-8?
>
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| Subject: | Re: Source for Canopy? |
--> RV-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com
In a message dated 7/25/05 12:34:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
revenson@comcast.net writes:
> Van's gets their side-by-side canopy bubbles from an outfit in Ohio. Does
> anyone know of any other sources?
>
Todds Canopys
http://toddscanopies.com/
I have used his canopy on another Experimental Aircraft and was very
happy.
RV-4
RV-8 QB .... Fuselage (canoe)
Sal Capra
Lakeland, FL
My Home Page
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| Subject: | Re: Source for Canopy? |
--> RV-List message posted by: WFACT01@aol.com
TODDS CANOPY-THEY ARE IN SPRUCE OR CALL HIM DIRECT-HE SELLS THICKER AND
TINTED IF YOU WANT-TOM
TOM WHELAN
WFACT01@AOL.COM
TEL-203-2665300 FAX 203 266-5140
AIRPORT-CT01-----122.725
RV-8-SP-IO-540-350+HP---55HRS
S-51-MUSTANG-TURBINE
F-24 FAIRCHILD
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| Subject: | Re: Needed: Ride home from Osh on Sunday to Kansas City |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill and Tami Britton" <william@gbta.net>
Matt, were driving and will be coming back through Kansas City (I think)
sometime Sunday or Monday. Not really on a definite schedule so it could
even be as late as sometime Tuesday. However, if you're interested I'll
mention it to the guy that's driving and see if he cares. By the way, we're
driving an extended cab Chevy pickup so it may not be the most comfortable,
but it's a ride.
Let me know if you're interested.
Bill Britton
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Brandes" <matthew@n523rv.com>
Subject: RV-List: Needed: Ride home from Osh on Sunday to Kansas City
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Matthew Brandes" <matthew@n523rv.com>
>
> I've managed to get a ride up to Osh on Thursday so now I'm trying to find
a
> ride home on Sunday. If anyone has an open seat coming back on Sunday,
and
> it going south somewhere near Kansas City (any Texans?), I'd love to hitch
a
> ride. You can catch me via email or on cellphone at 913-706-3087.
>
> Matthew Brandes,
> Van's RV-9A (Wiring)
> #90569
> http://www.n523rv.com <http://www.n523rv.com/>
>
> EAA Chapter 1329 President
> EAA Chapter 868 Web Editor
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Training for Flight... |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mike Draper <rv8tor@gmail.com>
Alan:
I don't have any stick time in an RV-8 but I do have a bunch in
Decathalons and a little RV-6 time. There is a big difference in
stick forces between a Decathalon and RVs. You really need to develop
your arm strenght if you are flying Decathalons, even with spades
whereas stick forces are extremely light and balanced in the RV
series.
A Decathalon is dirty bird and with a constant speed prop managing
your airspeed isn't difficult whereas the RV is aerodynamicaly clean
and speed must be managed dilligently. That's why RVs are considered
to be okay for gentlemen's aerobatics, but not for competitive
aerobatics.
They are both honest tailwheel airplanes that are well behaved.
Getting a checkout in a Decathalon would be helpful in learning how to
land a tailwheel aircraft. However, I do not feel that it would
adequately prepare you manage the flight characteristics of an RV-8.
Mike Draper
RV-8 fuse
N468RV
On 7/25/05, CBRxxDRV@aol.com <CBRxxDRV@aol.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 7/25/05 9:16:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> alan@reichertech.com writes:
>
>
> > I'm a long way off from first flight, but have a curiosity question...
> >
> > I'm aware of some folks that offer transition training prior to first
> > flight in their RV. How similar is flying a Decathlon to an RV-8?
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | OAT Probe location |
--> RV-List message posted by: rveighta <rveighta@earthlink.net>
Guys, when I was finishing up my RV-8A, I placed the OAT probe in the NACA air
duct. Never been happy with it -temps run too hot. Now that I'm in the same building
spot with my rv-8 I'm wondering where a better location might be? Maybe
in the leading edge of the wing/fuselage fairing?
Appreciate any ideas......
Walt Shipley
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| Subject: | Re: OAT Probe location |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
rveighta wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: rveighta <rveighta@earthlink.net>
>
>Guys, when I was finishing up my RV-8A, I placed the OAT probe in the NACA air
duct. Never been happy with it -temps run too hot. Now that I'm in the same building
spot with my rv-8 I'm wondering where a better location might be? Maybe
in the leading edge of the wing/fuselage fairing?
>
>Appreciate any ideas......
>
>Walt Shipley
>
Sure! I'd place it under the wing on that fairing, as far from the
fuselage as it can go. Mounting it on the leading edge would place it
in direct sun .... sometimes.
Linn
PS .... where you had it installed on the NACA scoop ..... it's
detecting radiant heat from the fuselage and/or engine heat while running.
do not archive
>
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> I seriously suffer from RVgrin, we broke through the magic 200MPH this
> afternoon on the second flight. This is without wheelpants or leg
> fairings.
> It is recommended to fly without if you use factory new engines.
Why? It seems like one would want to run the engine as cool as possible
when breaking it in. Flying without fairings will run the engine hotter.
Alex Peterson
RV6A N66AP 641 hours
Maple Grove, MN
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| Subject: | Re: OAT Probe location |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Under your wing, about mid-span out or more. Away from heat sources for the
most accurate reading.
Mine is under my right wing. When I fly with RVs who installed the probe in
their NACA vent, their readings are consistently higher than mine in the
air. Hot air does escape the cowl.
I've had a few encounters with icing in IMC and I want my OAT to be dead on.
Imho, forget the convenient wiring...go for accuracy.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "rveighta" <rveighta@earthlink.net>
Subject: RV-List: OAT Probe location
> --> RV-List message posted by: rveighta <rveighta@earthlink.net>
>
> Guys, when I was finishing up my RV-8A, I placed the OAT probe in the NACA
air duct. Never been happy with it -temps run too hot. Now that I'm in the
same building spot with my rv-8 I'm wondering where a better location might
be? Maybe in the leading edge of the wing/fuselage fairing?
>
> Appreciate any ideas......
>
> Walt Shipley
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: first flight |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@comcast.net>
Alex Peterson wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
>
>
>
>
>>I seriously suffer from RVgrin, we broke through the magic 200MPH this
>>afternoon on the second flight. This is without wheelpants or leg
>>fairings.
>>It is recommended to fly without if you use factory new engines.
>>
>>
>
>Why? It seems like one would want to run the engine as cool as possible
>when breaking it in. Flying without fairings will run the engine hotter.
>
>Alex Peterson
>RV6A N66AP 641 hours
>Maple Grove, MN
>
>
>
>
It is not a temp thing, you do want to keep the temps inside recommend
range. The idea of running hard is
to help set the rings. An engine expert can probably explain how this
works.
Jerry
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: OAT Probe location |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
Mine is in the NACA inlet and reads 8-10 deg C high.
Worthless location.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | OAT Probe location |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
Walt,
As you know but other builders might not, the 8 & 8A have two NACA vents,
one in the fuselage and one in the bottom of the right wing. It has always
seemed to me that the one in the right wing would be a good place for the
OAT probe, so that's the direction I have run my probe wires. Which one did
you install it in in your 8A?
Terry
RV-8A finishing?
Seattle
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rveighta
Subject: RV-List: OAT Probe location
--> RV-List message posted by: rveighta <rveighta@earthlink.net>
Guys, when I was finishing up my RV-8A, I placed the OAT probe in the NACA
air duct. Never been happy with it -temps run too hot. Now that I'm in the
same building spot with my rv-8 I'm wondering where a better location might
be? Maybe in the leading edge of the wing/fuselage fairing?
Appreciate any ideas......
Walt Shipley
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