---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 08/01/05: 35 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:09 AM - autopilot choices (charlie heathco) 2. 06:12 AM - Radio repairman neeeded in Boerne Tx area (charlie heathco) 3. 06:16 AM - Re: RV-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 07/31/05 (Kelly Patterson) 4. 07:16 AM - C-Frame Mod (Stephanie Marshall) 5. 07:20 AM - Re: autopilot choices (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)) 6. 07:42 AM - Re: C-Frame Mod (Marty) 7. 07:58 AM - Countersinking Longerons, Stiffeners (Jamie Painter) 8. 08:10 AM - Re: Countersinking Longerons, Stiffeners (Paul Trotter) 9. 08:32 AM - Re: C-Frame Mod (Stephanie Marshall) 10. 09:03 AM - Re: Countersinking Longerons, Stiffeners (Dan Checkoway) 11. 09:46 AM - recommended carb shop? (Aircraft Technical Book Company) 12. 10:09 AM - Re: recommended carb shop? (Rhonda Bewley) 13. 10:11 AM - Re: C-Frame Mod (gert) 14. 11:07 AM - Re: Re: Garmin 396 In-Flight Report (Larry Bowen) 15. 11:24 AM - Re: Re: Garmin 396 In-Flight Report (Robert Cutter) 16. 11:38 AM - Concord, CA (Stan & Eilene) 17. 12:52 PM - Re: Concord, CA (Hull, Don) 18. 12:53 PM - Re: Concord, CA (Hull, Don) 19. 12:55 PM - sky dynamics oil pickup (Bob J) 20. 01:59 PM - Crepe Paper Streamer Paint Job (Dennis Persyk) 21. 02:09 PM - Re: Concord, CA (Mike Robertson) 22. 03:46 PM - Re: Stiffener Jig (Brett Morawski) 23. 04:19 PM - ODYSSEY BATTERY (Jsd41@aol.com) 24. 05:04 PM - Re: ODYSSEY BATTERY (RVer273sb@aol.com) 25. 05:59 PM - Re: Concord, CA (Jerry Springer) 26. 06:07 PM - EAA 486, RV Forum KFZY Sept 9-10-11 (RV6160hp@aol.com) 27. 06:13 PM - Re: Stiffener Jig () 28. 06:16 PM - autopilot choices () 29. 06:35 PM - Re:Odyssey Battery (Oldsfolks@aol.com) 30. 06:48 PM - Re: aviation activities/museums in the NYC area? (Charlie England) 31. 07:02 PM - Re: ODYSSEY BATTERY (Bill Dube) 32. 07:16 PM - Re: EAA 486, RV Forum KFZY Sept 9-10-11 (Jim Cimino) 33. 07:42 PM - Re: EAA 486, RV Forum KFZY Sept 9-10-11 (RV6160hp@aol.com) 34. 08:07 PM - Garmin 296 USB? (Bobby Hester) 35. 08:47 PM - Re: Garmin 296 USB? (James Ochs) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:58 AM PST US From: "charlie heathco" Subject: RV-List: autopilot choices autolearn=unavailable version=3.0.2 --> RV-List message posted by: "charlie heathco" Looking thru archs I dont see anything recent. I have my 6a apart, just got anual and want to go ahead with inst posibly both wing leveler and alt hold. would like coments as to pref of tru tract or trio?? Charlie Heathco Boerne stage ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:03 AM PST US From: "charlie heathco" Subject: RV-List: Radio repairman neeeded in Boerne Tx area autolearn=unavailable version=3.0.2 --> RV-List message posted by: "charlie heathco" My nav side ID needs fixing, altho I dont realy need it, wondering who can recoment somebody in the area? Charlie Heathco ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:16:49 AM PST US From: "Kelly Patterson" Subject: RV-List: RE: RV-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 07/31/05 --> RV-List message posted by: "Kelly Patterson" >Subject: Re: RV-List: Stiffener Jig > >--> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com > >Hi Charlie > >Never even thought about a paper cutter. That would probably >be easier, less >dangerous (moving sawblade) and get a better cut. I have a pair of tin snips that look like giant scissors and have no serrated edge. They were used for all .025 cuts and the occasional .032 material. Very fast and simple. Measurement is by eyeball for stiffeners. Kelly Patterson RV-6A final paint prepping PHX, AZ ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:16:49 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: C-Frame Mod From: "Stephanie Marshall" --> RV-List message posted by: "Stephanie Marshall" I remember seeing a modification for the C-Frame that replaces the striker with a handle that is worked by either hydraulics or the Air Compressor. My memory is REALLY vague on this, does anyone know where I can find out more information on this? Thanks, Stephanie www.rv-8a.4t.com This electronic mail message is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, print, retain, copy, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender and delete all copies of this message. Thank you ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:20:04 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: autopilot choices From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" There have not been much updates to the units in quite a while Charlie. I think the perfect solution is a Trio and an Altrak for price and performance. My comments are archived so I wont rehash the features and performance here. If you can hold off a bit on the Altitude hold piece, Trio is coming out soon with a really nice Altitude unit that will have some neat gee whiz features in it. Best, Mike Do not archive BTW, Scott just relo'd his Super 7 to San Antonio Yesterday. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of charlie heathco Subject: RV-List: autopilot choices --> RV-List message posted by: "charlie heathco" Looking thru archs I dont see anything recent. I have my 6a apart, just got anual and want to go ahead with inst posibly both wing leveler and alt hold. would like coments as to pref of tru tract or trio?? Charlie Heathco Boerne stage ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:42:45 AM PST US From: "Marty" Subject: RE: RV-List: C-Frame Mod --> RV-List message posted by: "Marty" I don't know about pneumatic/hydraulic, but the DRDT-2 sold by ExperimentalAero (http://www.experimentalaero.com/) looks wonderful. By all accounts I've read everyone who has used both it and a regular c-frame seemed to prefer the DRDT-2 I know it's on my 'must have' list. Marty in Indiana RV8A preview plans in hand. |-----Original Message----- |From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- |server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stephanie Marshall |Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 9:15 AM |To: rv-list@matronics.com |Subject: RV-List: C-Frame Mod | |--> RV-List message posted by: "Stephanie Marshall" | | |I remember seeing a modification for the C-Frame that replaces the |striker with a handle that is worked by either hydraulics or the Air |Compressor. My memory is REALLY vague on this, does anyone know |where I can find out more information on this? | |Thanks, |Stephanie |www.rv-8a.4t.com | | |This electronic mail message is intended exclusively for the |individual or entity to which it is addressed. This message, together |with any attachment, may contain confidential and privileged |information. Any unauthorized review, use, print, retain, copy, |disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have |received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender |and delete all copies of this message. Thank you | | | | | ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:58:04 AM PST US From: Jamie Painter Subject: RV-List: Countersinking Longerons, Stiffeners --> RV-List message posted by: Jamie Painter Fellow Slow-Builders: I'm getting ready to rivet my foward side skins and of course all the associated internal components. I started out by countersinking the stiffeners/longerons/aux longerons/lower longerons, etc. Then I went on to dimpling the skins. The side skins are .032 and the forward bottom skin is .040. My question: When I countersunk everything, I used a AN426AD3 rivet to gauge the appropriate depth of the countersink. The dimples don't really sit in there very well. Did others find it necessary to countersink all the holes deeper? I know that this is done in other parts of the project, but basically I would like confirmation that cutting the countersinks a little deeper is what should be done here. Jamie Painter RV-7A Fuselage do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:10:49 AM PST US From: Paul Trotter Subject: Re: RV-List: Countersinking Longerons, Stiffeners --> RV-List message posted by: Paul Trotter Jaime, You need to countersink deeper for dimples than you do for rivets. The best thing to do is get a scrap of the same thickness material and dimple it. Use that as a gage to set your countersink cage. Good luck Paul RV-8 82080 Fuselage Kit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamie Painter" Subject: RV-List: Countersinking Longerons, Stiffeners > --> RV-List message posted by: Jamie Painter > > Fellow Slow-Builders: > > I'm getting ready to rivet my foward side skins and of course all the > associated internal components. I started out by countersinking the > stiffeners/longerons/aux longerons/lower longerons, etc. Then I went on > to dimpling the skins. The side skins are .032 and the forward bottom > skin is .040. > > My question: When I countersunk everything, I used a AN426AD3 rivet to > gauge the appropriate depth of the countersink. The dimples don't > really sit in there very well. Did others find it necessary to > countersink all the holes deeper? I know that this is done in other > parts of the project, but basically I would like confirmation that > cutting the countersinks a little deeper is what should be done here. > > Jamie Painter > RV-7A Fuselage > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:32:16 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: C-Frame Mod From: "Stephanie Marshall" --> RV-List message posted by: "Stephanie Marshall" That's IT! Thanks! Stephanie www.rv-8a.4t.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Marty Subject: RE: RV-List: C-Frame Mod --> RV-List message posted by: "Marty" I don't know about pneumatic/hydraulic, but the DRDT-2 sold by ExperimentalAero (http://www.experimentalaero.com/) looks wonderful. By all accounts I've read everyone who has used both it and a regular c-frame seemed to prefer the DRDT-2 I know it's on my 'must have' list. Marty in Indiana RV8A preview plans in hand. |-----Original Message----- |From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- |server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stephanie Marshall |Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 9:15 AM |To: rv-list@matronics.com |Subject: RV-List: C-Frame Mod | |--> RV-List message posted by: "Stephanie Marshall" | | |I remember seeing a modification for the C-Frame that replaces the |striker with a handle that is worked by either hydraulics or the Air |Compressor. My memory is REALLY vague on this, does anyone know |where I can find out more information on this? | |Thanks, |Stephanie |www.rv-8a.4t.com | | |This electronic mail message is intended exclusively for the |individual or entity to which it is addressed. This message, together |with any attachment, may contain confidential and privileged |information. Any unauthorized review, use, print, retain, copy, |disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have |received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender |and delete all copies of this message. Thank you | | | | | ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:03:59 AM PST US From: "Dan Checkoway" Subject: Re: RV-List: Countersinking Longerons, Stiffeners --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" > My question: When I countersunk everything, I used a AN426AD3 rivet to > gauge the appropriate depth of the countersink. The dimples don't > really sit in there very well. Did others find it necessary to > countersink all the holes deeper? I know that this is done in other > parts of the project, but basically I would like confirmation that > cutting the countersinks a little deeper is what should be done here. Are you priming after you countersink? Primer adds enough thickness that it can change a "perfect" countersink into one where the rivet sits slightly proud. Something to consider. Otherwise, and in addition, practice makes perfect. )_( Dan RV-7 N714D (578 hours) http://www.rvproject.com ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:46:23 AM PST US From: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" Subject: RV-List: recommended carb shop? --> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" Can someone recommend an honest and capable carburetor shop to service an MSA 4-5? I've got a series of problems in the idle to midrange circuit that are getting too pronounced to continue to fly as it is. Their is a pronounced and worsening hesitation when throttling up through about 1500 rpm There is beginning to be a rpm fluctuation of about 100-200 rpm around the 1300-1700 range And there seems to be a growing stiff spot in the throttle itself I've also noticed that there is no rpm rise during shut down and adjusting the idle screw doesn't make any difference. Andy ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:09:55 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: recommended carb shop? From: "Rhonda Bewley" --> RV-List message posted by: "Rhonda Bewley" Mike's Fuel Metering in Tulsa, OK gets our carburetors. Here's a phone number. (918) 838-6217 Rhonda Barrett-Bewley Barrett Precision Engines, Inc. Tulsa, OK -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Aircraft Technical Book Company Subject: RV-List: recommended carb shop? --> RV-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" Can someone recommend an honest and capable carburetor shop to service an MSA 4-5? I've got a series of problems in the idle to midrange circuit that are getting too pronounced to continue to fly as it is. Their is a pronounced and worsening hesitation when throttling up through about 1500 rpm There is beginning to be a rpm fluctuation of about 100-200 rpm around the 1300-1700 range And there seems to be a growing stiff spot in the throttle itself I've also noticed that there is no rpm rise during shut down and adjusting the idle screw doesn't make any difference. Andy ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:11:31 AM PST US From: gert Subject: Re: RV-List: C-Frame Mod --> RV-List message posted by: gert I have mod'ed my dimpler http://www.geocities.com/rv8abldr/cframe.html uses a foot switch to operate the solenoid Stephanie Marshall wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Stephanie Marshall" > >I remember seeing a modification for the C-Frame that replaces the striker with a handle that is worked by either hydraulics or the Air Compressor. My memory is REALLY vague on this, does anyone know where I can find out more information on this? > >Thanks, >Stephanie >www.rv-8a.4t.com > > >This electronic mail message is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, print, retain, copy, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender and delete all copies of this message. Thank you > > > > -- is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:07:35 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Garmin 396 In-Flight Report From: "Larry Bowen" --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Is an XM agreement per device, or per customer (and all his devices: car, plane, mobile, etc)? - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com Nick Nafsinger said: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Nick Nafsinger" > > > $30 for the Basic and $50 for Everything. Add another $7 if you want > music. The prices are fixed for everything XM, Portable, Panel Mount, > doesn't matter. > > To see what features you get in each package look here: > http://www.xmradio.com/weather/av_service_pricing.html > > Now the disclamer. I don't work for XM, I'm just a VERY happy customer! > My inflight 396 report is darn near identical to Stu's except I flew in > from Western MN. Nexrad, Winds, everything where spot on. > > Nick > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Galati > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: Re: Garmin 396 In-Flight Report > > --> RV-List message posted by: Rick Galati > > How much are the monthly fees for accessing the weather services using > the 396? > > Rick > > > -- > > > -- > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:24:46 AM PST US From: "Robert Cutter" Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Garmin 396 In-Flight Report --> RV-List message posted by: "Robert Cutter" Larry, I believe it is per device. My son pays for his, his brother's and mine. They are all on one account and he gets a discount for the last two, but each unit is billed. I have a Roady II and use in my truck and home. This also allows you to listen online by code from your unit, as I am doing as I write this. RVRC Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Garmin 396 In-Flight Report > --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" > > Is an XM agreement per device, or per customer (and all his devices: car, > plane, mobile, etc)? > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > Nick Nafsinger said: >> --> RV-List message posted by: "Nick Nafsinger" >> >> >> $30 for the Basic and $50 for Everything. Add another $7 if you want >> music. The prices are fixed for everything XM, Portable, Panel Mount, >> doesn't matter. >> >> To see what features you get in each package look here: >> http://www.xmradio.com/weather/av_service_pricing.html >> >> Now the disclamer. I don't work for XM, I'm just a VERY happy customer! >> My inflight 396 report is darn near identical to Stu's except I flew in >> from Western MN. Nexrad, Winds, everything where spot on. >> >> Nick >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Galati >> To: rv-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV-List: Re: Garmin 396 In-Flight Report >> >> --> RV-List message posted by: Rick Galati >> >> How much are the monthly fees for accessing the weather services using >> the 396? >> >> Rick >> >> >> -- >> >> >> -- >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:38:13 AM PST US From: "Stan & Eilene" Subject: RV-List: Concord, CA --> RV-List message posted by: "Stan & Eilene" We are low-time pilots with very little experience with towered airports. We are wondering if someone could give us advice on the airport at Concord, CA, as we are interested in flying into there the 12th of August, arriving around noon. Are there any particular gotchas that we need to be aware of. We will be attending a family wedding. Please contact off-list only. Our e-mail address: stan@vangrunsven.us Do not archive! Stan RV-6A ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 12:52:11 PM PST US From: "Hull, Don" Subject: RE: RV-List: Concord, CA --> RV-List message posted by: "Hull, Don" Is this a hoax? The email sure looks suspicious to me. Matt, maybe you need to sniff this one out. Don -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stan & Eilene Subject: RV-List: Concord, CA --> RV-List message posted by: "Stan & Eilene" We are low-time pilots with very little experience with towered airports. We are wondering if someone could give us advice on the airport at Concord, CA, as we are interested in flying into there the 12th of August, arriving around noon. Are there any particular gotchas that we need to be aware of. We will be attending a family wedding. Please contact off-list only. Our e-mail address: stan@vangrunsven.us Do not archive! Stan RV-6A ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 12:53:26 PM PST US From: "Hull, Don" Subject: RE: RV-List: Concord, CA --> RV-List message posted by: "Hull, Don" If this is not a hoax, I apologize. OTOH, if it is, shame on you. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stan & Eilene Subject: RV-List: Concord, CA --> RV-List message posted by: "Stan & Eilene" We are low-time pilots with very little experience with towered airports. We are wondering if someone could give us advice on the airport at Concord, CA, as we are interested in flying into there the 12th of August, arriving around noon. Are there any particular gotchas that we need to be aware of. We will be attending a family wedding. Please contact off-list only. Our e-mail address: stan@vangrunsven.us Do not archive! Stan RV-6A ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 12:55:17 PM PST US From: Bob J Subject: RV-List: sky dynamics oil pickup --> RV-List message posted by: Bob J I am looking for some pictures of the swinging oil pickup that is used in the Maxi-Sump systems made by Sky Dynamics. I talked to Kevin and he described it to me but as the saying goes a picture is worth a thousand words. If you have one of these sumps I'd love to see a pic of the oil pickup mechanism. Regards, Bob Japundza RV-6 600+ hours, F1 under const. ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 01:59:20 PM PST US From: "Dennis Persyk" Subject: RV-List: Crepe Paper Streamer Paint Job --> RV-List message posted by: "Dennis Persyk" About 5 or 6 years ago there were pictures of an RV6 that won awards at 6 OSH. The paint job depicted crepe paper streamers fluttering along the fuselage. Id appreciate it if someone could tell me which issue of EAA the pictures appeared in or otherwise advise me where I can get my hands on pictures of that beautiful plane. My friend is going to get a custom paint job on his Extra 300 and wed like to copy that one. Thanks! Dennis Persyk 6A N600DP sold RV page http://home.att.net/~dpersyk/rv6a.htm ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 02:09:24 PM PST US From: "Mike Robertson" Subject: RE: RV-List: Concord, CA --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" I know these people. And this is not a hoax. They truly would like to get information from more knowledgable people. Mike Robertson Das Fed >From: "Hull, Don" >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: "'rv-list@matronics.com'" >Subject: RE: RV-List: Concord, CA >Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 14:52:35 -0500 > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Hull, Don" > >If this is not a hoax, I apologize. OTOH, if it is, shame on you. > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stan & Eilene >To: rv-list >Subject: RV-List: Concord, CA > > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Stan & Eilene" > >We are low-time pilots with very little experience with towered airports. >We are wondering if someone could give us advice on the airport at Concord, >CA, as we are interested in flying into there the 12th of August, arriving >around noon. Are there any particular gotchas that we need to be aware of. >We will be attending a family wedding. > >Please contact off-list only. > >Our e-mail address: stan@vangrunsven.us > >Do not archive! > >Stan >RV-6A > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 03:46:39 PM PST US From: "Brett Morawski" Subject: RE: RV-List: Stiffener Jig --> RV-List message posted by: "Brett Morawski" For anyone wanting to try the paper cutter route, I believe you need to have a pretty heavy one with a wood base. I tried using a cheap $20 plastic model and the whole thing just twisted itself up when I tried to cut a stiffener. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MLWynn@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Stiffener Jig --> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com Hi Charlie Never even thought about a paper cutter. That would probably be easier, less dangerous (moving sawblade) and get a better cut. I'll try that if I get yet another opportunity to do elevator stiffeners. Michael Do Not Achive Message transport security by GatewayDefender.com 1:15:42 AM ET - 8/1/2005 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 04:19:06 PM PST US From: Jsd41@aol.com Subject: RV-List: ODYSSEY BATTERY --> RV-List message posted by: Jsd41@aol.com Listers I have a Odyssey PC 625 battery in my RV6A. My airplane isn't finished yet, it is still in my basement. I have been adjusting on my flaps, and left the master switch on for about 2 weeks. My battery is dead now. I can't seem to get it back up to full charge. The manual says to charge it at 10 amps for no more then 3 hours. I can't get it to take charge. It is showing about 5 volts. Does anybody know how to get this battery back to full charge? Thanks Jerry Davis Glen Carbon ,ILL ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 05:04:49 PM PST US From: RVer273sb@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: ODYSSEY BATTERY --> RV-List message posted by: RVer273sb@aol.com I have found that if you discharge an oddesy battery that deep is is toast. Haven't been able to save it in that case. Stewart RV-4 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 05:59:11 PM PST US From: Jerry Springer Subject: Re: RV-List: Concord, CA --> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer Actually it is Vans brother. :-) along with Mike I know them also Hi Stan, I have never been to Concord or would try to give you some help Jerry do not archive Hull, Don wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Hull, Don" > >If this is not a hoax, I apologize. OTOH, if it is, shame on you. > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stan & Eilene >To: rv-list >Subject: RV-List: Concord, CA > > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Stan & Eilene" > >We are low-time pilots with very little experience with towered airports. >We are wondering if someone could give us advice on the airport at Concord, >CA, as we are interested in flying into there the 12th of August, arriving >around noon. Are there any particular gotchas that we need to be aware of. >We will be attending a family wedding. > >Please contact off-list only. > >Our e-mail address: stan@vangrunsven.us > >Do not archive! > >Stan >RV-6A > > > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 06:07:41 PM PST US From: RV6160hp@aol.com Subject: RV-List: EAA 486, RV Forum KFZY Sept 9-10-11 --> RV-List message posted by: RV6160hp@aol.com OK so I was looking at the wromg month...DOOPhhh thanks for not flaming me Just a friendly reminder...11th annual RV forum at KFZY, Oswego County NY Starting Friday Sept 9th, Saturday the Technical forums and Sunday the fly in pancake breakfast.... See www.eaachapter486.com for more info Regards David McManmon RV6 ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 06:13:17 PM PST US From: Subject: RE: RV-List: Stiffener Jig --> RV-List message posted by: Brett, Yes, I used a nice high quality wood based shear. Charlie ---- Brett Morawski wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Brett Morawski" > > For anyone wanting to try the paper cutter route, I believe you need to have > a pretty heavy one with a wood base. I tried using a cheap $20 plastic > model and the whole thing just twisted itself up when I tried to cut a > stiffener. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MLWynn@aol.com > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Stiffener Jig > > --> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com > > Hi Charlie > > Never even thought about a paper cutter. That would probably be easier, > less > dangerous (moving sawblade) and get a better cut. I'll try that if I get > yet > another opportunity to do elevator stiffeners. > > Michael > Do Not Achive > > > Message transport security by GatewayDefender.com > 1:15:42 AM ET - 8/1/2005 > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 06:16:22 PM PST US From: Subject: RV-List: autopilot choices --> RV-List message posted by: Hi Charlie, Since I sell the Trutrak units, I'll begin my e-mail by telling you that the response below is nothing more that my personal opinion from having owned both a Trio and a Trutrak unit. Both units had their strenghts and weaknesses, and here are just a few of them: Trio 1. I really liked a lot of the features the Trio head included, particularly the "course reversal" and "course intercept" feature. However, I have to admit that much of the information displayed in the controller was available in my GPS unit. Nevertheless, the display was good, but a bit hard to read in direct sunlight. (I had the fluorescent display) 2. Trio's altitude hold was not available when I purchased my unit. 3. My unit used the Navaid servo. I didn't care much for it, but the Navaid servo has worked very well for a lot of people. 4. I really liked the built-in Turn Coordinator and coordinating ball. 5. The Trio displayed my name on intial startup. Didn't make flying better, but it was so cool to see my name and tail number on the screen everytime I threw the switch. Trutrak 1. Trutrak servos are high quality, heavy duty, stepper motors. Heavier than the Navaid servo if you are concerned with every ounce going in the airplane. 2. Altitude Hold (Pitch Control) available via an Altrak system. Push the button and go. 3. The Digitrak (Roll Control) GPS/NAV mode is not as accurate as the GPS Steering available with the Trutrak's higher priced models, but it does a good job. 4. All Trutrak autopilots can be upgraded to a higher priced model, if you want to, for the difference in cost between the units. Based on cost alone, I think the scales tip in the direction of Trutrak. Trutrak just lowered the price of the units to $1,495 for the Digitrak, and $1,495 for the Altrak, which is almost a $300 savings from price of three months ago. See this link: http://www.affordablepanels.com/trutrak_autopilots.htm I have a Digiflight-II unit for my new RV-9A, but I think if I was deciding today, I would choose the Digitrak/Altrak combo. More bang for my buck. Regards, Fabian Lefler ----- Original Message ----- From: "charlie heathco" Subject: RV-List: autopilot choices > --> RV-List message posted by: "charlie heathco" > > Looking thru archs I dont see anything recent. I have my 6a apart, just got anual and want to go ahead with inst posibly both wing leveler and alt hold. would like coments as to pref of tru tract or trio?? Charlie Heathco Boerne stage > > ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 06:35:38 PM PST US From: Oldsfolks@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Re:Odyssey Battery --> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com I ran my Odyssey down when I left the master on. I had to go to 50 amps for a bit on charge to get it to come back. It has done fine since & that was a couple of years ago. Good luck. Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor Charleston,Arkansas Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 06:48:39 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: RV-List: aviation activities/museums in the NYC area? --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England Thanks for all the replies on NYC aviation (& other) activities. The Italian restaurant & Intrepid/sub are on our list & if I can find a way to convince 3 other people that it's worth a pair of 2 hour train rides to see actual flying WWI flying a/c, we will head up to Old Rhinebeck on one of the weekend days. Charlie do not archive ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 07:02:29 PM PST US From: Bill Dube Subject: Re: RV-List: ODYSSEY BATTERY --> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube It is dead. Replace it when you get ready to fly. Yes, it is possible you might be able to bring it back, but it isn't advisable. You would be much smarter to replace it. If you want it use the old battery for testing, but not flying, here is how to "fix" it: Put it on a 15 volt power supply limited at 2 amps. Leave it on for about 10 hrs, maybe a little more. Run it down to 11 volts with a landing light. Charge it back up with the 15 volt supply. Do this three or four times. It will either kill it or cure it. An inexpensive 15 volt, 2 amp power supply is a Toshiba laptop AC adapter. Get it on Ebay for about $10. Nice for "equalize" charging your replacement battery too. Don't leave it on the battery for more than 10 hours or so. Bill Dube' At 05:18 PM 8/1/2005, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Jsd41@aol.com > >Listers > I have a Odyssey PC 625 battery in my RV6A. My airplane isn't finished > yet, >it is still in my basement. I have been adjusting on my flaps, and left the >master switch on for about 2 weeks. My battery is dead now. I can't seem >to get >it back up to full charge. > The manual says to charge it at 10 amps for no more then 3 hours. I can't >get it to take charge. It is showing about 5 volts. > Does anybody know how to get this battery back to full charge? > Thanks > Jerry Davis Glen Carbon ,ILL > > ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 07:16:55 PM PST US From: "Jim Cimino" Subject: Re: RV-List: EAA 486, RV Forum KFZY Sept 9-10-11 Received-SPF: none --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Cimino" Dave, Don't you think you should give out the awards from last year's event before doing this years? I know I won't be attending. Jim Jim Cimino N7TL RV-8 S/N 80039 150+ Hours http://www.geocities.com/jcimino.geo/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: RV-List: EAA 486, RV Forum KFZY Sept 9-10-11 > --> RV-List message posted by: RV6160hp@aol.com > > OK so I was looking at the wromg month...DOOPhhh thanks for not flaming > me > > Just a friendly reminder...11th annual RV forum at KFZY, Oswego County NY > Starting Friday Sept 9th, Saturday the Technical forums and Sunday the fly > in pancake breakfast.... > > See www.eaachapter486.com for more info > > Regards > David McManmon > RV6 > > > ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 07:42:26 PM PST US From: RV6160hp@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: EAA 486, RV Forum KFZY Sept 9-10-11 --> RV-List message posted by: RV6160hp@aol.com thanks Jim....sorry you won't be attending....I tired....I am sorry you have not recieved your award and that you did not connect with those in charge last year..........this year stick around for the banquet and you might get i then...did you clearly register last year....we seem to have way more planes ther ethen registrants......please reconsider...we are amatures and volunteers... respectfully David McManmon.. ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 08:07:18 PM PST US From: Bobby Hester Subject: RV-List: Garmin 296 USB? --> RV-List message posted by: Bobby Hester Just got my Garmin 296 that I purchased thru Ebay. It came with the serial cable for trasfering information from my PC. I see that there is a USB cable available. Is the transfer time alot better with the USB cable? Is that just a regular USB cable, that I can pick up at Walmart? Got my Air Gizmo mount on the way -- Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/ RV7A Slowbuild wings-QB Fuse :-) ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 08:47:22 PM PST US From: James Ochs Subject: Re: RV-List: Garmin 296 USB? --> RV-List message posted by: James Ochs Hi Bobby, It is a regular usb cable, but the kind with the small connector on one end instead of the square one. USB is much faster than serial, especially if you have usb 2.0 Serial = 115,000 bits per second USB = 12Mbits / second (~12,000,000 bits per second) USB 2.0 = 480Mbits / second Here's a link to a page with pictures of the connectors... look about 1/2 way down the page for "mini usb 2.0 connector" http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/connecters.html You should be able to find these pretty easily at compusa / bestbuy / frys / radio shack etc... I love my 296... I use it everywhere I go... flying, driving, sailing... i had no idea how much use I would get out of that thing before I bought it! James Bobby Hester wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Bobby Hester > >Just got my Garmin 296 that I purchased thru Ebay. It came with the >serial cable for trasfering information from my PC. I see that there is >a USB cable available. Is the transfer time alot better with the USB cable? >Is that just a regular USB cable, that I can pick up at Walmart? > >Got my Air Gizmo mount on the way > > >