Today's Message Index:
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1. 03:18 AM - Re: Autopilot setup (Francis Malczynski)
2. 06:36 AM - autopilot setup (Grenwis@aol.com)
3. 07:27 AM - Re: Re: Autopilot setup (Tim Bryan)
4. 07:29 AM - capacitance probes and Dynon engine monitor (joelrhaynes@aol.com)
5. 07:51 AM - Re: C-Frame Mod (Stephanie Marshall)
6. 08:49 AM - Re: And another crash at Oshkosh? Pilots Report (Ross Mickey)
7. 09:06 AM - Re: And another crash at Oshkosh? Pilots Report (Ross Mickey)
8. 09:11 AM - Re: C-Frame Mod (Chris W)
9. 09:26 AM - Re: C-Frame Mod (James Ochs)
10. 09:27 AM - Re: Attitude, was another crash (Ross Mickey)
11. 10:21 AM - Re: And another crash at Oshkosh? Pilots Report (Darrell Reiley)
12. 10:56 AM - To Mat (Mike Robertson)
13. 12:21 PM - Re: C-Frame Mod (Brad Oliver)
14. 02:50 PM - Re: Attitude, was another crash (mark phipps)
15. 05:52 PM - Re: C-Frame Mod (Bill Dube)
16. 07:27 PM - Plasma II for sale (Mike Robertson)
17. 07:30 PM - Re: To Mat (Matt Dralle)
18. 07:31 PM - RV flight to Banff suggestions (Ken Cantrell)
19. 07:33 PM - Wooden stick grips (Bobby Hester)
20. 07:35 PM - Classic Aero Designs Side Panels (Jamie Painter)
21. 07:52 PM - Re: Autopilot setup (Ron Lee)
22. 08:11 PM - Re: Classic Aero Designs Side Panels (Darrell Reiley)
23. 08:29 PM - Re: Wooden stick grips (Dan Krueger)
24. 08:47 PM - Re: Wooden stick grips (Dan Checkoway)
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| Subject: | RE: Autopilot setup |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Francis Malczynski" <ebbfmm@yahoo.com>
My Trio Autopilot set up is where the servo is under the copilot seat. I am
also using the top holes on the crank arms on each end of the control rod
which I understand gives the most sensitivity and which Trio recommends. The
settings I use are the default settings and I do not get any stick twitching
at one-second intervals and the unit tracks beautifully. Fine CRS QLT = 1
and Fine TRK QLT = 2
Fran Malczynski
RV-6 N594EF
Olcott, NY
ebbfmm@yahoo.com
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction."...Ronald
Reagan
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--> RV-List message posted by: Grenwis@aol.com
Thanks to all for the advice. I haven't solved the puzzle yet, but I got to
see an example of customer service done right. Within an hour of posting, I
got a call from Jerry at Trio. He said what I described was not normal and
they'd help me get it fixed no matter what it took. It is nice to hear a company
back what they sell to that degree, so if you are on the fence, factor that
into your thinking, along with the good words of frequent list contributors.
My servo is mounted in the wing with an 8" rod connecting it to the
bellcrank. Slop seems unlikely, but I'll be checking on that today. I'll also
check
about the software version. Even if I have to pull out the servo and the head,
Trio said they'd check them out and fix them right away. Thanks to all for
the help
Rick Grenwis
N613G - RV6A - 90 hours
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Autopilot setup |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
Francis, would you by chance have pictures of this install? I am about to
install mine in the same location and have not yet formulated a plan.
Thanks
Tim Bryan
RV-6
N616TB
DNA
-------Original Message-------
From: Francis Malczynski
Subject: RV-List: RE: Autopilot setup
--> RV-List message posted by: "Francis Malczynski" <ebbfmm@yahoo.com>
My Trio Autopilot set up is where the servo is under the copilot seat. I am
also using the top holes on the crank arms on each end of the control rod
which I understand gives the most sensitivity and which Trio recommends. The
settings I use are the default settings and I do not get any stick twitching
at one-second intervals and the unit tracks beautifully. Fine CRS QLT 1
and Fine TRK QLT 2
Fran Malczynski
RV-6 N594EF
Olcott, NY
ebbfmm@yahoo.com
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction."...Ronald
Reagan
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| Subject: | capacitance probes and Dynon engine monitor |
--> RV-List message posted by: joelrhaynes@aol.com
Listers,
I have Van's capacitance fuel probes in my wings and will shortly be installing
the new Dynon engine monitor. I'm interested in what others are using for a
capacitance to voltage converter to link the probes to the monitor.
Thanks
Joel Haynes
7a - canopy in progress
Bozeman, MT
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Stephanie Marshall" <smarshall@enid.org>
WOW! That wasn't it but that might end up being IT!
:-)
Stephanie
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dave Saylor
Subject: RE: RV-List: C-Frame Mod
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dave Saylor" <Dave@aircraftersllc.com>
Stephanie,
Are you thinking of this? The squeezer is foot controlled and actuates very
slowly.
http://www.aircraftersllc.com/classifieds/yoke.htm
Please call if you'd like one.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
831-722-9141
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stephanie Marshall
Subject: RV-List: C-Frame Mod
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stephanie Marshall" <smarshall@enid.org>
I remember seeing a modification for the C-Frame that replaces the striker
with a handle that is worked by either hydraulics or the Air Compressor. My
memory is REALLY vague on this, does anyone know where I can find out more
information on this?-
-Thanks,
Stephanie
www.rv-8a.4t.com
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| Subject: | And another crash at Oshkosh? Pilots Report |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ross Mickey" <rmickey@ix.netcom.com>
-----Original Message-----
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright"
>>I'd suggest that another option is to land on the upwind side of the
runway.
Great suggestion. Thanks.
Ross
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| Subject: | And another crash at Oshkosh? Pilots Report |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ross Mickey" <rmickey@ix.netcom.com>
-----Original Message-----
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net>
>The big question for Ross: is there anything WE can do to help you get
bck in the air. Hey, we can raise
>barns and build houses...perhaps we can pitch in and help you with the
rebuild.
Thanks, Bob. I have received some off-list offers already that are very
much appreciated. The large new parts I need are 1) the entire
empennage 2) nose gear 3) two wing tips 4) roll bar 5) canopy frame 6)
canopy 7) left aileron 8) prop. All the rest are small parts,
fiberglass (I hate it) and labor.
Ross
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--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net>
Dave Saylor wrote:
>Are you thinking of this? The squeezer is foot controlled and actuates very
>slowly.
>
>http://www.aircraftersllc.com/classifieds/yoke.htm
>
>
That says it only comes with the yoke. What size squeezer does it need
and how much do they cost. It looks like a lot bigger than the hand
pneumatic squeezers that are common.
--
Chris W
Gift Giving Made Easy
Get the gifts you want &
give the gifts they want
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--> RV-List message posted by: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org>
It looks like the one in the picture with the guy using it is just the
tandem version of the cp214. they use the same yokes, it just uses two
cylinders so it develops twice the force...
James
Chris W wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net>
>
>Dave Saylor wrote:
>
>
>
>>Are you thinking of this? The squeezer is foot controlled and actuates very
>>slowly.
>>
>>http://www.aircraftersllc.com/classifieds/yoke.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>That says it only comes with the yoke. What size squeezer does it need
>and how much do they cost. It looks like a lot bigger than the hand
>pneumatic squeezers that are common.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Attitude, was another crash |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ross Mickey" <rmickey@ix.netcom.com>
-----Original Message-----
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
>AND...Ross...don't you feel bad about this. You're not the first, nor
will you be the last. Hopefully everyone >learns from this ordeal you
had to suffer through and I also appreciate that you were able to
objectively
>share this with everyone.
Stein,
It is hard not to feel bad but I am trying to put a limit on my self
pity. I keep going over what I could have done differently, what went
wrong and what can I do to decrease the chances of this happening again.
This is on a personal level as well as for my fellow pilot/builders who
are not experienced in formation flying and are very experienced in
following controllers directions. Those experienced in formation flying
(I would suspect as I am not one) would be very familiar with the wake
turbulence issues associated with landing close to other small aircraft.
Most of us will only experience this at air shows like Oshkosh. I will
never land that close at an uncontrolled airport and normal operations
at controlled airports won't allow it. I would really like to see this
issue highlighted in the NOTAMS and other pre-show materials. It
couldn't hurt to remind all us weekend flyers that we may experience
this wake turbulence. One of my mistakes was not having this issue in
the front of my mind as I was landing. I was trying to keep aware of
this Cherokee hanging off to my right and then landing so I wouldn't run
into the four planes sitting on the runway ahead of me. The
"omnificent" controller kept telling me to stick it on the numbers. I
was right on track to accomplish these goals when I got bit.
Ross
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| Subject: | And another crash at Oshkosh? Pilots Report |
--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
Ross,
I have the empenage fiberglass parts, elevator horns primed and misc ribs and other
parts for the RV 6 that I will give you just email me an address to send
the parts to.
Darrell Reiley
Ross Mickey <rmickey@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ross Mickey"
-----Original Message-----
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins"
>The big question for Ross: is there anything WE can do to help you get
bck in the air. Hey, we can raise
>barns and build houses...perhaps we can pitch in and help you with the
rebuild.
Thanks, Bob. I have received some off-list offers already that are very
much appreciated. The large new parts I need are 1) the entire
empennage 2) nose gear 3) two wing tips 4) roll bar 5) canopy frame 6)
canopy 7) left aileron 8) prop. All the rest are small parts,
fiberglass (I hate it) and labor.
Ross
Darrell Reiley
Round Rock, Texas
RV 7A "Reiley Rocket"
N622DR (reserved)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
Mat,
You spam blocker has blocked me out three times now. I have an LSE Plasma
II ignition for sale I would like to offer to the list prior to offering it
on EBAy. What does it take to get through?
Mike Robertson
Do Not Archive
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>To: <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
>Subject: **Message you sent blocked by our bulk email filter**
>Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 10:03:34 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Your message to: rv-list@matronics.com
>was blocked by our Spam Firewall. The email you sent with the following
>subject has NOT BEEN DELIVERED:
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>Subject: LSE Plasma II Ignition
>
><< attach3 >>
><< attach4 >>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Brad Oliver <brad@rv7factory.com>
That is pretty cool. It caught my eye a few months ago when I was at
Dave's place of business. While I am not in the market for one of
these, it is the most attractively priced one I have seen (outside of
homemade).
Outside of cost, there is something else you might want to consider...
shop space. At 80 lbs. (w/o squeezer I assume) you probably do not
want to be moving it around a lot, so you might want to find somewhere
more permanent to mount it. Just food for thought.
Regards,
Brad Oliver
RV-7 Livermore, CA
www.rv7factory.com
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: RV-List: C-Frame Mod
> From: "Stephanie Marshall" <smarshall@enid.org>
> Date: Wed, August 03, 2005 7:50 am
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stephanie Marshall" <smarshall@enid.org>
>
> WOW! That wasn't it but that might end up being IT!
>
> :-)
>
> Stephanie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dave Saylor
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV-List: C-Frame Mod
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dave Saylor" <Dave@aircraftersllc.com>
>
> Stephanie,
>
> Are you thinking of this? The squeezer is foot controlled and actuates very
> slowly.
>
> http://www.aircraftersllc.com/classifieds/yoke.htm
>
> Please call if you'd like one.
>
> Dave Saylor
> AirCrafters LLC
> 831-722-9141
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stephanie Marshall
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: C-Frame Mod
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stephanie Marshall" <smarshall@enid.org>
>
> I remember seeing a modification for the C-Frame that replaces the striker
> with a handle that is worked by either hydraulics or the Air Compressor. My
> memory is REALLY vague on this, does anyone know where I can find out more
> information on this?-
>
> -Thanks,
> Stephanie
> www.rv-8a.4t.com
>
>
> This electronic mail message is intended exclusively for the individual or
> entity to which it is addressed. This message, together with any attachment,
> may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized
> review, use, print, retain, copy, disclosure or distribution is strictly
> prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately
> advise the sender and delete all copies of this message. Thank you
>
>
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| Subject: | Attitude, was another crash |
--> RV-List message posted by: mark phipps <skydive80020@yahoo.com>
Hey Ross, After seing your list I have a pair of 6 wingtips you can have as well,
if you haven't got some already.
Mark Phipps
Ross Mickey <rmickey@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ross Mickey"
-----Original Message-----
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch"
>AND...Ross...don't you feel bad about this. You're not the first, nor
will you be the last. Hopefully everyone >learns from this ordeal you
had to suffer through and I also appreciate that you were able to
objectively
>share this with everyone.
Stein,
It is hard not to feel bad but I am trying to put a limit on my self
pity. I keep going over what I could have done differently, what went
wrong and what can I do to decrease the chances of this happening again.
This is on a personal level as well as for my fellow pilot/builders who
are not experienced in formation flying and are very experienced in
following controllers directions. Those experienced in formation flying
(I would suspect as I am not one) would be very familiar with the wake
turbulence issues associated with landing close to other small aircraft.
Most of us will only experience this at air shows like Oshkosh. I will
never land that close at an uncontrolled airport and normal operations
at controlled airports won't allow it. I would really like to see this
issue highlighted in the NOTAMS and other pre-show materials. It
couldn't hurt to remind all us weekend flyers that we may experience
this wake turbulence. One of my mistakes was not having this issue in
the front of my mind as I was landing. I was trying to keep aware of
this Cherokee hanging off to my right and then landing so I wouldn't run
into the four planes sitting on the runway ahead of me. The
"omnificent" controller kept telling me to stick it on the numbers. I
was right on track to accomplish these goals when I got bit.
Ross
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--> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <bdube@al.noaa.gov>
An alternative with nearly the reach is a CP-351. I have one with
9 inch alligator jaws. I have seen them with even larger jaws.
http://www.killacycle.com/mongo1.JPG
I bought this one on Ebay for $100. They typically go for $200 -
$350.
I used a go-kart throttle pedal and a bicycle brake cable to make
the remote foot pedal:
http://www.killacycle.com/mongo2.JPG
Normally, I attach this squeezer to the bench in the slot shown in
the first picture. However, I made a pulley and rope counterweight system
to make it easy to use on the wing ribs.
Bill Dube'
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| Subject: | Plasma II for sale |
7.50 BARRACUDA_HEADER_FP56 RBL: Blacklist bl.spamcop
[Blocked - see <http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?64.4.56.200>]
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
I have a LSE Plasma II complete ignition system with the Hall Effects sensor
for sale. It was taken off of a friend's RV-8 as he was upgrading his
system. It is in excellent condition. It also has a bonus of a Slick
magnteo top with spark plug leads in like new condition. It sold for around
$900 new. I am asking $600 OBO and will throw in shipping anywhere in the
US.
Mike Robertson
(509) 998-1793
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--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Looks like the Matronics Spam filter was flagging you through the
Spam Cop system. Here's the URL that was included in the block:
http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?64.4.56.200
I forwarded your email onto the List. Sorry for the hassle.
Matt
At 10:55 AM 8/3/2005 Wednesday, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
>
>Mat,
>
>You spam blocker has blocked me out three times now. I have an LSE Plasma
>II ignition for sale I would like to offer to the list prior to offering it
>on EBAy. What does it take to get through?
>
>Mike Robertson
>Do Not Archive
>
> >From: MAILER-DAEMON <>
> >To: <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
> >Subject: **Message you sent blocked by our bulk email filter**
> >Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 10:03:34 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Your message to: rv-list@matronics.com
> >was blocked by our Spam Firewall. The email you sent with the following
> >subject has NOT BEEN DELIVERED:
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> >Subject: LSE Plasma II Ignition
> >
> ><< attach3 >>
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>
>
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
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| Subject: | RV flight to Banff suggestions |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Cantrell" <kcflyrv@comcast.net>
Hello Listers,
My wife and I are toying with the idea of flying our RV-6 from No-Cal to
Banff for a short vacation later this month. I'd like to solicit some
helpful advice regarding navigation routes and customs requirements. Many of
you have helped us plan trips in the past and I hope to hear from you once
again.
Any and all suggestions are very much appreciated.
Ken Cantrell
RV-6, 410 hrs
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| Subject: | Wooden stick grips |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bobby Hester <bhester@hopkinsville.net>
Ok, I cut the pilot stick off and I sanded the inside of my wooden grip
to were it will slide on snugly.
Do I need to put some kind of glue on the inside of the grip when I
slide it on?
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Surfing the web from my home in Hopkinsville, KY
Visit my RV7A site: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/
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| Subject: | Classic Aero Designs Side Panels |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jamie Painter <jdpainter@jpainter.org>
Anyone have the Classic Aero Designs Side Panels for a -6/-7/-9? Do
you find that they take a noticeable amount of cabin space? How much
do they weigh? What are your general impressions?
Thanks,
Jamie Painter
RV-7A Forward Fuselage
http://rv.jpainter.org
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Autopilot setup |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
Rick, As I mentioned some time ago, my unit does the same
once per second left/right oscillation as noted in the stick.
I talked to Trio about it and they may have an adjustment within
the servo itself but until I hook up my last wire (RS-232), I am
not calling about that adjustment.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re: Classic Aero Designs Side Panels |
--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
I have never put my eyes on their panels installed... can you send pics?
Darrell
Jamie Painter <jdpainter@jpainter.org> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: Jamie Painter
Anyone have the Classic Aero Designs Side Panels for a -6/-7/-9? Do
you find that they take a noticeable amount of cabin space? How much
do they weigh? What are your general impressions?
Thanks,
Jamie Painter
RV-7A Forward Fuselage
http://rv.jpainter.org
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Darrell Reiley
Round Rock, Texas
RV 7A "Reiley Rocket"
N622DR (reserved)
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--> RV-List message posted by: Dan Krueger <pndkrueg@mchsi.com>
> Do I need to put some kind of glue on the inside of the grip when I
> slide it on?
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> I have one grip really snug - no glue .
The other one has a very small set screw - I would not glue.
Dan Krueger
RV6A Flying
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
My grip loosened up after a while...particularly when the colder weather
came around. It was loose to the point where I considered it a flight
safety issue. A loose stick grip on takeoff or landing, well, you can use
your imagination.
I ended up epoxying it to the control stick.
Just my 2 cents.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (578 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
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From: "Bobby Hester" <bhester@hopkinsville.net>
Subject: RV-List: Wooden stick grips
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> Ok, I cut the pilot stick off and I sanded the inside of my wooden grip
> to were it will slide on snugly.
> Do I need to put some kind of glue on the inside of the grip when I
> slide it on?
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