---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 08/11/05: 31 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:19 AM - Re: Source for Cherry CR3214-4-4? (Kevin Horton) 2. 06:32 AM - Re: Auto pilot disconect control in stick question (John Huft) 3. 08:15 AM - Speed fairings (John Furey) 4. 09:40 AM - Re: Auto pilot disconect control in stick question (Jeff Dowling) 5. 10:14 AM - Re: Speed fairings (Ron Lee) 6. 10:28 AM - Re: Auto pilot disconect control in stick question (Larry Bowen) 7. 10:49 AM - Re: Speed fairings (John Furey) 8. 01:12 PM - Re: Speed fairings (James H Nelson) 9. 01:32 PM - FLY IN @MJX (Five0Gulf@aol.com) 10. 02:02 PM - contact (RAS) 11. 02:03 PM - Re: FLY IN @MJX (Hull, Don) 12. 02:09 PM - Re: Speed fairings (Wendy Jenks) 13. 02:47 PM - Re: Speed fairings (Ron Lee) 14. 03:02 PM - Re: Speed fairings (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 15. 03:36 PM - Re: Speed fairings (Greg Young) 16. 03:39 PM - Re: Speed fairings (Ed Holyoke) 17. 03:39 PM - Re: Auto pilot disconect control in stick question (Ed Holyoke) 18. 03:41 PM - Re: FLY IN @MJX (Gary L. Gembala) 19. 04:08 PM - Avionics harness (Doug Weiler) 20. 04:23 PM - Re: Avionics harness () 21. 04:44 PM - Re: Auto pilot disconect control in stick question (Larry Bowen) 22. 06:13 PM - Re: Speed fairings (John Furey) 23. 06:25 PM - Thanks (Richard Leach) 24. 06:28 PM - Re: Avionics harness (Terry Watson) 25. 07:46 PM - Re: Auto pilot disconect control in stick question (Richard Sipp) 26. 08:17 PM - Wing Assembly Question??? (Matt Johnson) 27. 08:20 PM - Re: Wing Assembly Question??? (Dan Checkoway) 28. 08:32 PM - Canopy - How many more times? (JTAnon@aol.com) 29. 09:01 PM - Re: Speed fairings (Ed Holyoke) 30. 09:01 PM - Re: [SoCAL-RVlist] Re: Wing Assembly Question??? (JOHN STARN) 31. 11:12 PM - Re: Canopy - How many more times? (Doug Shenk) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:19:08 AM PST US From: Kevin Horton Subject: Re: RV-List: Source for Cherry CR3214-4-4? --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton Joe, Thanks for the offer. And thank you to the guys who provided good hints on where to look, and to Larry Bowen who also offered to send me some from his private stash. I'm going to run the various leads to ground, and Larry will send me some if they don't pan out. Kevin On 10 Aug 2005, at 23:43, Joe Hine wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Joe Hine > > Kevin > > I have a large box of Cherry Max rivits I acquired a while ago. There > is a variety of sizes, but I have no idea if the size you need is > there. I am away until sunday evening. If you don't have a solution > by then, I can check and see if I can find what you need. If I there > are any there, you can have them. > > Joe > > On 8/10/05, Kevin Horton wrote: > >> --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton >> >> I backed myself in a corner (long story), and now I need two Cherry >> Max CR3214-4-4 rivets (plus one spare just in case I screw up putting >> one in). These are the 1/8" dia ones, but with the NAS1097 reduced >> size heads. I can buy 100 of them for $52 from General Aircraft >> Hardware, but I wonder if anyone knows of a place where I could >> purchase three of them. >> >> Any pointers? >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit) >> Ottawa, Canada >> http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:32:23 AM PST US From: John Huft Subject: Re: RV-List: Auto pilot disconect control in stick question autolearn=unavailable version=3.0.3 --> RV-List message posted by: John Huft I have my disconnect switch as the pinky button on my infinity grip. Since I have TruTrak for both axis, the disconnect works for both (the pictorial pilot and the altrack are connected together). I do find it useful, I use it all the time to disconnect. It will also connect the pictorial pilot, but not the altrack., but I normally engage with the buttons on the panel. John charlie heathco wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "charlie heathco" > >I am waivering on the value of haveing the servo disconect in the stick, would also need one for the alt hold disc if I were to do so. One I would have to buy and install a multi button thingy on the handle,two at my age I suffer from CRS, and am afraid I will be pushing one of the disconects while trying to transmit, thand ree I spent the entire afternoon just reinstalling the aileron bellcrank (pesky spacers). Would apreciate input as to usefulness of this feature, (I have a trio but info on your brand will work.) >Charlie heathco, Boerne Tx > > >. > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:15:45 AM PST US From: "John Furey" Subject: RV-List: Speed fairings --> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" A friend has his fuel vent speed fairings for sale. Carbon Fiber, light as a feather and strong enough to stand on. $30 a pair. Pictures available if requested. He is also perfecting fairings for Fuel drains, aileron hinge and rudder cables. Let me know if interested. John RV6A ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:40:55 AM PST US From: "Jeff Dowling" Subject: Re: RV-List: Auto pilot disconect control in stick question --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" Since you can easily overpower the auto pilot(s) in an emergency, I would suggest not adding complexity by putting one on the stick. Shemp/Jeff Dowling RV-6A, N915JD 235 hours Chicago/Louisville ----- Original Message ----- From: "charlie heathco" Subject: RV-List: Auto pilot disconect control in stick question > --> RV-List message posted by: "charlie heathco" > > I am waivering on the value of haveing the servo disconect in the stick, > would also need one for the alt hold disc if I were to do so. One I would > have to buy and install a multi button thingy on the handle,two at my age > I suffer from CRS, and am afraid I will be pushing one of the disconects > while trying to transmit, thand ree I spent the entire afternoon just > reinstalling the aileron bellcrank (pesky spacers). Would apreciate input > as to usefulness of this feature, (I have a trio but info on your brand > will work.) > Charlie heathco, Boerne Tx > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:14:04 AM PST US From: Ron Lee Subject: Re: RV-List: Speed fairings --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee Does he have documented, scientific, uncontestable speed improvement numbers? Send details to my email account: ronlee@pcisys.net Ron Lee >A friend has his fuel vent speed fairings for sale. Carbon Fiber, light as a >feather and strong enough to stand on. $30 a pair. Pictures available if >requested. He is also perfecting fairings for Fuel drains, aileron hinge and >rudder cables. Let me know if interested. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:28:46 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Auto pilot disconect control in stick question From: "Larry Bowen" --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" I have AP enagage/disengage on my infinity stick and use it almost exclusively for my trutrak AP. When I flew with Alex D. in Dallas for trans. training, he demonstrated that the stick switch will disengage the AP immediately, while the knob on the AP has to be held in for 3 seconds (?) to disengage. I prefer "right-now". Your AP may be different, but this is why I did it on mine. Simple to do. No regrets. Cheers, - Larry Bowen, Rv-8, ~120 Hrs Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com Jeff Dowling said: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" > > > Since you can easily overpower the auto pilot(s) in an emergency, I would > suggest not adding complexity by putting one on the stick. > > Shemp/Jeff Dowling > RV-6A, N915JD > 235 hours > Chicago/Louisville > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "charlie heathco" > To: > Subject: RV-List: Auto pilot disconect control in stick question > > >> --> RV-List message posted by: "charlie heathco" >> >> I am waivering on the value of haveing the servo disconect in the stick, >> would also need one for the alt hold disc if I were to do so. One I >> would >> have to buy and install a multi button thingy on the handle,two at my >> age >> I suffer from CRS, and am afraid I will be pushing one of the disconects >> while trying to transmit, thand ree I spent the entire afternoon just >> reinstalling the aileron bellcrank (pesky spacers). Would apreciate >> input >> as to usefulness of this feature, (I have a trio but info on your brand >> will work.) >> Charlie heathco, Boerne Tx >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:49:11 AM PST US From: "John Furey" Subject: RE: RV-List: Speed fairings --> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" Absolutely NOT jf ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:12:40 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Speed fairings From: James H Nelson --> RV-List message posted by: James H Nelson Hi John, Its drag reduction drag reduction to get the last bit of speed or best economy. They (?) did a study during WWII on drag on fighters. It was interesting on how much it effected the top speed. Covered each item small or large as they removed or streamlined the items. Van's are very good and I've thought about the fuel drain valves as a good drag reduction point. The rudder cable exits also and the air entrance to the cowling. There was an article in one of the magazines that followed two "6's" as they did several things that got their top speeds up to around 205 mph or so. Not alot of things but each did a bit and they added up. Jim Nelson ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:32:13 PM PST US From: Five0Gulf@aol.com Subject: RV-List: FLY IN @MJX --> RV-List message posted by: Five0Gulf@aol.com Saturday October 8, 2005 (Rain Date Sunday Oct.9, 2005) EAA Chapter 898 will be hosting a FLY IN at Robert J Miller Airport. All are welcome! Please come out & enjoy our club's Second Annual FLY IN. We hope to have lots of home built planes on display. We'd like to see as many RV'rs as possible. Food & drinks will be available for purchase. Door prizes will be given away at noon! Hours are 8 til 3. Hope to see you there! Walt ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:02:49 PM PST US From: "RAS" Subject: RV-List: contact --> RV-List message posted by: "RAS" Hi, Any of the western canada list members have a contact for Barry Tunzelmann or can give him email and ask him to contact me. Thanks, Marcel de Ruiter Northern Ireland marcelderuiter@btinternet.com do not archive ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:03:06 PM PST US From: "Hull, Don" Subject: RE: RV-List: FLY IN @MJX --> RV-List message posted by: "Hull, Don" What's the identifier?...or at least the city and state! -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Five0Gulf@aol.com Subject: RV-List: FLY IN @MJX --> RV-List message posted by: Five0Gulf@aol.com Saturday October 8, 2005 (Rain Date Sunday Oct.9, 2005) EAA Chapter 898 will be hosting a FLY IN at Robert J Miller Airport. All are welcome! Please come out & enjoy our club's Second Annual FLY IN. We hope to have lots of home built planes on display. We'd like to see as many RV'rs as possible. Food & drinks will be available for purchase. Door prizes will be given away at noon! Hours are 8 til 3. Hope to see you there! Walt ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:09:57 PM PST US From: Wendy Jenks Subject: Re: RV-List: Speed fairings --> RV-List message posted by: Wendy Jenks hey you know what a real drag is. it's a real drag getting all these e-mails James H Nelson wrote:--> RV-List message posted by: James H Nelson Hi John, Its drag reduction drag reduction to get the last bit of speed or best economy. They (?) did a study during WWII on drag on fighters. It was interesting on how much it effected the top speed. Covered each item small or large as they removed or streamlined the items. Van's are very good and I've thought about the fuel drain valves as a good drag reduction point. The rudder cable exits also and the air entrance to the cowling. There was an article in one of the magazines that followed two "6's" as they did several things that got their top speeds up to around 205 mph or so. Not alot of things but each did a bit and they added up. Jim Nelson Blessings, Wendy --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:47:15 PM PST US From: Ron Lee Subject: Re: RV-List: Speed fairings --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee At 03:09 PM 8/11/2005, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Wendy Jenks > >hey you know what a real drag is. it's a real drag getting all these e-mails And that solution is: UNSUBSCRIBE do not archive Ron Lee ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:02:18 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Speed fairings From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" --> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" You know what a real, real, drag is, getting pointless emails like this without Do not archive so they clutter up the archives and make them that much more difficult to search. Of course there is always unsubscribe or delete. Ha! -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wendy Jenks Subject: Re: RV-List: Speed fairings --> RV-List message posted by: Wendy Jenks hey you know what a real drag is. it's a real drag getting all these e-mails Blessings, Wendy --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:36:16 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Speed fairings From: "Greg Young" --> RV-List message posted by: "Greg Young" He/she/it is a troll - ignore the msg. Got a similar one from "her" on the Yak-List. Matt if you see this you might want to ban the address. do not archive ________________________________ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Ron Lee Subject: Re: RV-List: Speed fairings --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee At 03:09 PM 8/11/2005, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Wendy Jenks > >hey you know what a real drag is. it's a real drag getting all these e-mails And that solution is: UNSUBSCRIBE do not archive Ron Lee ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:39:19 PM PST US From: "Ed Holyoke" Subject: RE: RV-List: Speed fairings --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" Hey John, Why don't you upload some pictures to the Matronics list photo share so interested parties can look at them? Thanks, Ed Holyoke -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Furey Subject: RV-List: Speed fairings --> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" A friend has his fuel vent speed fairings for sale. Carbon Fiber, light as a feather and strong enough to stand on. $30 a pair. Pictures available if requested. He is also perfecting fairings for Fuel drains, aileron hinge and rudder cables. Let me know if interested. John RV6A ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:39:20 PM PST US From: "Ed Holyoke" Subject: RE: RV-List: Auto pilot disconect control in stick question --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" Hey Larry, How is that wired? Is it momentary or an on/off switch? Pax, Ed Holyoke -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Bowen Subject: Re: RV-List: Auto pilot disconect control in stick question --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" I have AP enagage/disengage on my infinity stick and use it almost exclusively for my trutrak AP. When I flew with Alex D. in Dallas for trans. training, he demonstrated that the stick switch will disengage the AP immediately, while the knob on the AP has to be held in for 3 seconds (?) to disengage. I prefer "right-now". Your AP may be different, but this is why I did it on mine. Simple to do. No regrets. Cheers, - Larry Bowen, Rv-8, ~120 Hrs Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com Jeff Dowling said: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" > > > Since you can easily overpower the auto pilot(s) in an emergency, I would > suggest not adding complexity by putting one on the stick. > > Shemp/Jeff Dowling > RV-6A, N915JD > 235 hours > Chicago/Louisville > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "charlie heathco" > To: > Subject: RV-List: Auto pilot disconect control in stick question > > >> --> RV-List message posted by: "charlie heathco" >> >> I am waivering on the value of haveing the servo disconect in the stick, >> would also need one for the alt hold disc if I were to do so. One I >> would >> have to buy and install a multi button thingy on the handle,two at my >> age >> I suffer from CRS, and am afraid I will be pushing one of the disconects >> while trying to transmit, thand ree I spent the entire afternoon just >> reinstalling the aileron bellcrank (pesky spacers). Would apreciate >> input >> as to usefulness of this feature, (I have a trio but info on your brand >> will work.) >> Charlie heathco, Boerne Tx >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 03:41:21 PM PST US From: "Gary L. Gembala" Subject: Re: RV-List: FLY IN @MJX --> RV-List message posted by: "Gary L. Gembala" Robert J. Miller Air Park (MJX) TOMS RIVER, NJ Publicly Owned, Public Use 5.0 mi. SW of city. N39-55.65 W074-17.54 Mag Var: 12 deg W Phone: 732-797-1077 Fax: 732-797-0789 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hull, Don" Subject: RE: RV-List: FLY IN @MJX > --> RV-List message posted by: "Hull, Don" > > What's the identifier?...or at least the city and state! > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Five0Gulf@aol.com > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: FLY IN @MJX > > > --> RV-List message posted by: Five0Gulf@aol.com > > > Saturday October 8, 2005 (Rain Date Sunday Oct.9, 2005) EAA Chapter 898 > will > be hosting a FLY IN at Robert J Miller Airport. All are welcome! Please > come > out & enjoy our club's Second Annual FLY IN. We hope to have lots of home > built planes on display. We'd like to see as many RV'rs as possible. Food & > > drinks will be available for purchase. Door prizes will be given away at > noon! > Hours are 8 til 3. Hope to see you there! > > Walt > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:08:22 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: Avionics harness From: Doug Weiler --> RV-List message posted by: Doug Weiler Fellow Listers: There is a company I believe in Salt Lake that was producing plug and play avionics wiring harnesses. I can't recall their name. Do any of you know who I am trying to track down? Thanks Doug Weiler Hudson, WI ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 04:23:35 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV-List: Avionics harness --> RV-List message posted by: I think you are looking for "Approach systems" Best of luck Kirk RV-8 fuse > > From: Doug Weiler > Date: 2005/08/11 Thu PM 07:07:24 EDT > To: RV List > Subject: RV-List: Avionics harness > > --> RV-List message posted by: Doug Weiler > > Fellow Listers: > > There is a company I believe in Salt Lake that was producing plug and play > avionics wiring harnesses. I can't recall their name. Do any of you know > who I am trying to track down? > > Thanks > > Doug Weiler > Hudson, WI > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 04:44:01 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Auto pilot disconect control in stick question From: "Larry Bowen" --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" From memory, grounding one of the pins on the AP toggles engage/disengage. The switch on the stick is momentary. See the installation diagrams for verification: http://www.trutrakflightsystems.com/ttfsinstallations.html - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com Ed Holyoke said: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" > > Hey Larry, > > How is that wired? Is it momentary or an on/off switch? > > Pax, > > Ed Holyoke > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Bowen > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Auto pilot disconect control in stick question > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" > > I have AP enagage/disengage on my infinity stick and use it almost > exclusively for my trutrak AP. When I flew with Alex D. in Dallas for > trans. training, he demonstrated that the stick switch will disengage > the > AP immediately, while the knob on the AP has to be held in for 3 seconds > (?) to disengage. I prefer "right-now". Your AP may be different, but > this is why I did it on mine. Simple to do. No regrets. > > Cheers, > > - > Larry Bowen, Rv-8, ~120 Hrs > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > Jeff Dowling said: >> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" >> >> >> Since you can easily overpower the auto pilot(s) in an emergency, I > would >> suggest not adding complexity by putting one on the stick. >> >> Shemp/Jeff Dowling >> RV-6A, N915JD >> 235 hours >> Chicago/Louisville >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "charlie heathco" >> To: >> Subject: RV-List: Auto pilot disconect control in stick question >> >> >>> --> RV-List message posted by: "charlie heathco" >>> >>> I am waivering on the value of haveing the servo disconect in the > stick, >>> would also need one for the alt hold disc if I were to do so. One I >>> would >>> have to buy and install a multi button thingy on the handle,two at my >>> age >>> I suffer from CRS, and am afraid I will be pushing one of the > disconects >>> while trying to transmit, thand ree I spent the entire afternoon just >>> reinstalling the aileron bellcrank (pesky spacers). Would apreciate >>> input >>> as to usefulness of this feature, (I have a trio but info on your > brand >>> will work.) >>> Charlie heathco, Boerne Tx >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:13:10 PM PST US From: "John Furey" Subject: RE: RV-List: Speed fairings --> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" Ed, I have been trying to upload pictures to myphotoalbum but having no luck. I'm not very techi. If I send them to you can you post them? Thanks John ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 06:25:38 PM PST US From: "Richard Leach" Subject: RV-List: Thanks --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Leach" Thanks to all the replies on the rudder forward edge rolling. I didn't worry about the few small spaces and as a result finished the rudder last night. May seem strange but this is the first section finished. Short story, I messed up a skin on the VS and had to reorder, so I went on to the rudder. Now I will go back to the VS and finish it up. It is all dimpled and primed. Time to put the puzzle back together.. Did everyone else get that big sigh of relief after a section was complete. Makes me feel like I can really do this. Rick Leach Rudder done, vs maybe this weekend. ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 06:28:54 PM PST US From: "Terry Watson" Subject: RE: RV-List: Avionics harness --> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" Doug, I think this is who you are looking for: http://www.approach-systems.com/ I understand John Stark avionics will now wire avionics that you buy from them for the Approach hub if you want. Terry RV-8A finishing Seattle --> RV-List message posted by: Doug Weiler Fellow Listers: There is a company I believe in Salt Lake that was producing plug and play avionics wiring harnesses. I can't recall their name. Do any of you know who I am trying to track down? Thanks Doug Weiler Hudson, WI ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 07:46:56 PM PST US From: "Richard Sipp" Subject: Re: RV-List: Auto pilot disconect control in stick question --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" It's true you should be able to overpower an autopilot servo, more often the control stick/wheel autopilot switch function is used for "control wheel steering". The switch is held in with the autopilot engaged, while holding the switch the airplane is maneuvered to a new attitude. When the switch is released the autopilot maintains the new attitude. The function is very similar to clicking the speed control accelerate or coast button on your cars speed control. Some autopilots may not support this function. There are usually three ways to turn off or at least disconnect an autopilot, power switch, engagement switch, and circuit breaker. All methods of disconnect should be memorized. Dick Sipp RV4 700hours RV10 fuselage ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Dowling" Subject: Re: RV-List: Auto pilot disconect control in stick question > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" > > > Since you can easily overpower the auto pilot(s) in an emergency, I would > suggest not adding complexity by putting one on the stick. > > Shemp/Jeff Dowling > RV-6A, N915JD > 235 hours > Chicago/Louisville > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "charlie heathco" > To: > Subject: RV-List: Auto pilot disconect control in stick question > > >> --> RV-List message posted by: "charlie heathco" >> >> I am waivering on the value of haveing the servo disconect in the stick, >> would also need one for the alt hold disc if I were to do so. One I would >> have to buy and install a multi button thingy on the handle,two at my age >> I suffer from CRS, and am afraid I will be pushing one of the disconects >> while trying to transmit, thand ree I spent the entire afternoon just >> reinstalling the aileron bellcrank (pesky spacers). Would apreciate input >> as to usefulness of this feature, (I have a trio but info on your brand >> will work.) >> Charlie heathco, Boerne Tx >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 08:17:25 PM PST US From: "Matt Johnson" Subject: RV-List: Wing Assembly Question??? (not processed: message from valid local sender) --> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Johnson" I am at the step where I rivet the wing skins on, the instructions tell me to put the fuel tanks on and put the screws in every other hole and put bolts in have th z- braces attached to the spar... is this the final assembly of the tanks on the wing or do I have to remove them later? if this is the final assembly, I would rather put all the bolts in the z-braces so I am not trying to do it later through the access holes in the bottom of the wing. I also would like to torque the bolts to their final torque if I know they are not coming off again... P.S. It seems like if you were to take them out and put them back in they would not fit as snug and that would be bad... Please respond asap if you can, thanks. - Matt ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 08:20:48 PM PST US From: "Dan Checkoway" Subject: RV-List: Re: Wing Assembly Question??? --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" I used all of the bolts, torqued 'em, and my tanks haven't been off since. Pretty sure they make mention of the option of removing the tanks later when mating the wings to the fuselage, in order to make room to stand in front of the spar. I imagine that does make wing mating slightly easier, but it's not like it's that difficult with the tanks ON. I personally think this may have made more of a difference back when a monkey *couldn't* mate a set of RV wings. With the match drilled spars/center sections these days, wing mating is a non-event (although still a notable milestone you should be proud of...not trying to shoot down anybody's exciting moment!). )_( Dan RV-7 N714D (589 hours) http://www.rvproject.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Johnson" Subject: [SoCAL-RVlist] Wing Assembly Question??? > I am at the step where I rivet the wing skins on, the instructions tell me to put the fuel tanks on and put the screws in every other hole and put bolts in have th z- > braces attached to the spar... is this the final assembly of the tanks on the wing or do I have to remove them later? if this is the final assembly, I would rather put all > the bolts in the z-braces so I am not trying to do it later through the access holes in the bottom of the wing. I also would like to torque the bolts to their final torque if I > know they are not coming off again... > > P.S. It seems like if you were to take them out and put them back in they would not fit as snug and that would be bad... > > Please respond asap if you can, thanks. > > - Matt > > > http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/SyTolB/TM > > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SoCAL-RVlist/ > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > SoCAL-RVlist-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 08:32:59 PM PST US From: JTAnon@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Canopy - How many more times? --> RV-List message posted by: JTAnon@aol.com Can anybody doing an RV7 slider give me an estimate on how many times you need to install, uninstall, bend; install, uninstall, bend; install, uninstall, bend; install, uninstall, bend; install, uninstall, bend; install the damn thing before you get it right? I mean, if I'm already up 500 cycles, am I half way there? One third? One quarter? Oh PLEASE, tell me I'm almost done! Do Not Archive .... Just trying to keep my sense of humor here. John McD (Will somebody come and do this thing for me?) PS. IF ANYBODY REPLIES THAT THEY HAD FUN DOING THE CANOPY I WILL HUNT THEM DOWN AND KILL THEM Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 09:01:28 PM PST US From: "Ed Holyoke" Subject: RE: RV-List: Speed fairings --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" Hey John, Try this: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/rv-list.html#Top Pax, Ed Holyoke -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Furey Subject: RE: RV-List: Speed fairings --> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" Ed, I have been trying to upload pictures to myphotoalbum but having no luck. I'm not very techi. If I send them to you can you post them? Thanks John ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 09:01:28 PM PST US From: "JOHN STARN" Subject: RV-List: Re: [SoCAL-RVlist] Re: Wing Assembly Question??? " <008a01c59eed$10ada3a0$6500a8c0@inspinc.ad> --> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" It's been said before.....BUT make sure you have someone or something under attached wing #1 BEFORE you walk over to pick up wing #2. Don't ask how we know.. KABONG Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Checkoway To: SoCAL-RVlist@yahoogroups.com ; rv7and7a@yahoogroups.com ; rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 8:22 PM Subject: [SoCAL-RVlist] Re: Wing Assembly Question??? I used all of the bolts, torqued 'em, and my tanks haven't been off since. Pretty sure they make mention of the option of removing the tanks later when mating the wings to the fuselage, in order to make room to stand in front of the spar. I imagine that does make wing mating slightly easier, but it's not like it's that difficult with the tanks ON. I personally think this may have made more of a difference back when a monkey *couldn't* mate a set of RV wings. With the match drilled spars/center sections these days, wing mating is a non-event (although still a notable milestone you should be proud of...not trying to shoot down anybody's exciting moment!). )_( Dan RV-7 N714D (589 hours) http://www.rvproject.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Johnson" To: ; ; Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 8:22 PM Subject: [SoCAL-RVlist] Wing Assembly Question??? > I am at the step where I rivet the wing skins on, the instructions tell me to put the fuel tanks on and put the screws in every other hole and put bolts in have th z- > braces attached to the spar... is this the final assembly of the tanks on the wing or do I have to remove them later? if this is the final assembly, I would rather put all > the bolts in the z-braces so I am not trying to do it later through the access holes in the bottom of the wing. I also would like to torque the bolts to their final torque if I > know they are not coming off again... > > P.S. It seems like if you were to take them out and put them back in they would not fit as snug and that would be bad... > > Please respond asap if you can, thanks. > > - Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Aviation school Outdoor recreation Recreation software Aviation headset Southern california a.. Visit your group "SoCAL-RVlist" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: SoCAL-RVlist-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 11:12:36 PM PST US From: Doug Shenk Subject: Re: RV-List: Canopy - How many more times? --> RV-List message posted by: Doug Shenk I won't claim it was fun on my 6 slider. It did, however, force me to consider that despite my obsessive-compulsive nature and "need" for "no-shim or washer alignment" that the real goal was to fly this plane sometime in my lifetime. My advice is to get close and move on. Had I followed my own advice I would be much closer to first flight today. :-) Do Not Archive Doug Shenk (Still slow-building my RV-6A slider "quickbuild") JTAnon@aol.com wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: JTAnon@aol.com > >Can anybody doing an RV7 slider give me an estimate on how many times you >need to install, uninstall, bend; install, uninstall, bend; install, uninstall, >bend; install, uninstall, bend; install, uninstall, bend; install the damn >thing before you get it right? > >I mean, if I'm already up 500 cycles, am I half way there? One third? One >quarter? > >Oh PLEASE, tell me I'm almost done! > >Do Not Archive .... > >Just trying to keep my sense of humor here. > >John McD (Will somebody come and do this thing for me?) > >PS. IF ANYBODY REPLIES THAT THEY HAD FUN DOING THE CANOPY I WILL HUNT THEM >DOWN AND KILL THEM > >Do Not Archive > > > >