---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 08/12/05: 20 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:53 AM - SATELLITE PROCESSING OF ELT SIGNALS ON 121.5 MHZ TO END IN 2009 (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 2. 06:28 AM - Re: contact (Ted on RV list) 3. 06:52 AM - Re: Auto pilot disconect control in stick questionAuto pilot disconect control in stick question (Jack Bannon) 4. 07:11 AM - Re: Canopy - How many more times? (N67BT@aol.com) 5. 07:36 AM - Re: SATELLITE PROCESSING OF ELT SIGNALS ON 121.5 MHZ (Ron Lee) 6. 10:28 AM - Fw: mounting flexible brake lines in 6A (Dale Ensing) 7. 10:28 AM - Fw: mounting flexible brake lines in 6A (Dale Ensing) 8. 11:30 AM - Del 37 degree AN fitting seals (Mickey Coggins) 9. 11:43 AM - Engine Overhaul Seminar (Matthew Brandes) 10. 11:46 AM - Re: Canopy - How many more times? (Greg Young) 11. 12:10 PM - pictures (John Furey) 12. 12:14 PM - Re: Del 37 degree AN fitting seals (Brian Denk) 13. 01:00 PM - Avionics Idea... (Matt Johnson) 14. 01:07 PM - Re: pictures (Richard Tasker) 15. 01:42 PM - Re: Avionics Idea... (not processed: message from valid local sender) (Rob Prior (rv7)) 16. 01:54 PM - RV-8a Widow's Diary Updated (Stephanie Marshall) 17. 02:58 PM - Re: Canopy - How many more times? (Stan Jones) 18. 03:39 PM - Re: pictures (Ed Holyoke) 19. 04:19 PM - Re: Del 37 degree AN fitting seals (PSILeD@aol.com) 20. 09:25 PM - Re: Del 37 degree AN fitting seals (C J Heitman) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:09 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: SATELLITE PROCESSING OF ELT SIGNALS ON 121.5 MHZ TO END IN 2009 From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" --> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Although many of you may have already read this I thought I would post it anyway as it effects everyone. SATELLITE PROCESSING OF ELT SIGNALS ON 121.5 MHZ TO END IN 2009 The FAA issued a notam Wednesday announcing plans to end satellite processing of emergency locator transmitter (ELT) distress signals broadcast over 121.5 MHz and 243 MHz on February 1, 2009. This comes at the request of the Cospas-Sarsat program, an international search and rescue program that uses satellite-aided tracking and is part of a transition to 406-MHz ELTs whose signals provide more information with greater accuracy than the current ELTs. "AOPA recognizes the benefits of the 406-MHz ELT but opposes any attempt to force pilots to upgrade. The unit alone costs about $1,000, with installation adding more to the cost. So the decision whether to upgrade or to keep the 121.5-MHz system should be left to the discretion of each aircraft owner," said Rob Hackman, AOPA manager of regulatory and certification policy. ELTs that transmit over 121.5 MHz will still satisfy FAA requirements and be legal after the transition date, but they will provide limited assistance in the event of an accident because a satellite will no longer receive their signals. They will still be monitored by the FAA and Department of Defense from the ground. The new 406-MHz ELTs use digital technology to transmit information specific to you and your aircraft, including your GPS coordinates and personal contact information. do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:28:52 AM PST US From: "Ted on RV list" Subject: RE: RV-List: contact --> RV-List message posted by: "Ted on RV list" kiwi@jetstream.net Ted French RV-10 wings -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of RAS Subject: RV-List: contact --> RV-List message posted by: "RAS" Hi, Any of the western canada list members have a contact for Barry Tunzelmann or can give him email and ask him to contact me. Thanks, Marcel de Ruiter Northern Ireland marcelderuiter@btinternet.com do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:55 AM PST US From: "Jack Bannon" Subject: Re: RV-List: Auto pilot disconect control in stick questionAuto pilot disconect control in stick question --> RV-List message posted by: "Jack Bannon" We have the TruTrak pictorial pilot, no AltTrak yet. The switch on the control stick is very usefull, not only for engaging and disengaging the AP. If a faster rate of turn is desired... holding the stick disconnect switch in, simply disconnects the Track hold feature while allowing you to manually apply more bank and turn faster. Once you release the switch the aircraft will roll out on the track you were on at the moment of release. The max bank is around 15-18 degrees with the AP on which gives a very smooth rate of turn (aprox rate 3/4) under most conditions. If you wished to turn, say, 90 degrees a bit quicker, the stick switch is very convenient. It is not CWS (control wheel steering), as it rolls the airplane wings level when the switch is released. It does not maintain the bank angle when switch released. The point is well taken that until you get used to it, it is possible to click the AP switch instead of the transmit switch, which of course disconnects the AP as long as the switch is held in, and greatly upsets ATC as they wait for you to answer them. You'll only do it once. Jack RV-6a C-GCUN ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:45 AM PST US From: N67BT@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Canopy - How many more times? --> RV-List message posted by: N67BT@aol.com I went through this as well with my 7A canopy. I think most slider builders do. When I got to the point where you are now, I stopped work on the canopy and did something else for a while. Getting back to it later gave me a fresh look at the problems. You will also "have fun" with the rear skirts. This has been the most frustrating part of the project so far. Bob Trumpfheller ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:36:01 AM PST US From: Ron Lee TO END IN 2009 Subject: Re: RV-List: SATELLITE PROCESSING OF ELT SIGNALS ON 121.5 MHZ TO END IN 2009 --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee TO END IN 2009 I purchased a McMurdo 406 MHz PLB (with GPS) for the improved position identification capabilities since I fly over mountainous areas where cell phones don't work and few people are around. The good thing about it is that rescuers could have an exact position on you in several minutes versus the ambiguous positioning from 121.5 MHz. Yes this is not an ELT replacement...just an major capability improvement using other technology. Ron Lee ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:28:03 AM PST US From: "Dale Ensing" Subject: RV-List: Fw: mounting flexible brake lines in 6A --> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Ensing Subject: mounting flexible brake lines in 6A To Paul Besing, if your still on the list. and others who have used flexible brake lines. How did you mount the flexible brakes lines to the gear legs on your 6A? I am concerned about abrasion to the paint/ gear leg so I installed a nylon tube "jacket" over the SS braid . Do you think wraps of duct tape or aluminum foil tape around the brake line and gear leg would hold up? Also prevent abrasion of the gear leg by the fiberglass fairing? Dale Ensing 6A flying 70 hrs.- installing gear and wheel fairings. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:28:04 AM PST US From: "Dale Ensing" Subject: RV-List: Fw: mounting flexible brake lines in 6A --> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Ensing Subject: mounting flexible brake lines in 6A To Paul Besing, if your still on the list. and others who have used flexible brake lines. How did you mount the flexible brakes lines to the gear legs on your 6A? I am concerned about abrasion to the paint/ gear leg so I installed a nylon tube "jacket" over the SS braid . Do you think wraps of duct tape or aluminum foil tape around the brake line and gear leg would hold up? Also prevent abrasion of the gear leg by the fiberglass fairing? Dale Ensing 6A flying 70 hrs.- installing gear and wheel fairings. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:30:40 AM PST US From: Mickey Coggins Subject: RV-List: Del 37 degree AN fitting seals --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins Hi, Has anyone ever used these? They seem like a pretty good idea, but I've never heard of them before a day or two ago. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/del37fittings.php Thanks for any feedback. Mickey -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 finishing ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:43:34 AM PST US From: "Matthew Brandes" Subject: RV-List: Engine Overhaul Seminar --> RV-List message posted by: "Matthew Brandes" Ever wondered what is involved in overhauling a Lycoming engine? Here's your chance! On September 24th, join Allen Barrett of Barrett Precision Engines of Tulsa, OK in the rebuild of a Lycoming O-320 engine. Watch as we rebuild the entire engine from parts to completion. Gain a better understanding of the process and costs involved. Learn valuable tips and tricks from engine builders with over 60 years of experience! Space is limited. http://www.home.earthlink.net/~eaa1329/EngineOverhaulSeminar.pdf Matthew Brandes, EAA Chapter 1329 President ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:46:37 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Canopy - How many more times? From: "Greg Young" --> RV-List message posted by: "Greg Young" Don't kow if this will help or hurt but all the effort put into making the frame fit just right will be repaid when fitting the bubble and skirts. Take heart, you're at least half way there;-) Greg ________________________________ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of JTAnon@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Canopy - How many more times? --> RV-List message posted by: JTAnon@aol.com Can anybody doing an RV7 slider give me an estimate on how many times you need to install, uninstall, bend; install, uninstall, bend; install, uninstall, bend; install, uninstall, bend; install, uninstall, bend; install the damn thing before you get it right? I mean, if I'm already up 500 cycles, am I half way there? One third? One quarter? Oh PLEASE, tell me I'm almost done! Do Not Archive .... Just trying to keep my sense of humor here. John McD (Will somebody come and do this thing for me?) PS. IF ANYBODY REPLIES THAT THEY HAD FUN DOING THE CANOPY I WILL HUNT THEM DOWN AND KILL THEM Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:10:07 PM PST US From: "John Furey" Subject: RV-List: pictures --> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" I sent the fuel vent pictures to pictures@matronics.com how can i see if they are available for viewing? Thanks John ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:14:33 PM PST US From: "Brian Denk" Subject: RE: RV-List: Del 37 degree AN fitting seals --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" >Hi, > >Has anyone ever used these? They seem like >a pretty good idea, but I've never heard of >them before a day or two ago. > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/del37fittings.php > >Thanks for any feedback. > >Mickey >-- >Mickey Coggins >http://www.rv8.ch/ >#82007 finishing I think they're great. I couldn't get my steel on steel fittings to stop seeping (oil hoses at oil cooler) until I used them. They stop the leaks pronto. Brian Denk RV8 N94BD RV10 '51 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:00:43 PM PST US From: "Matt Johnson" Subject: RV-List: Avionics Idea... (not processed: message from valid local sender) --> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Johnson" Does anyone have any idea of an instrument that either does not exist or where whats available on the market is not satisfactory? I am getting an itch to develop some sort of avionics as I enjoy aviation and I program software and microcontrollers for a living... you can email me off-list if anyone has some ideas or feedback... - Matt ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 01:07:40 PM PST US From: Richard Tasker Subject: Re: RV-List: pictures --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Tasker Matt posts them and sends an email to this list (if you specified it as the list to be notified) saying they are available on the server. As he says, it is a manual process and may take a day or two. Dick Tasker John Furey wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" > >I sent the fuel vent pictures to pictures@matronics.com how can i see if >they are available for viewing? > >Thanks >John > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 01:42:22 PM PST US From: "Rob Prior (rv7)" Subject: Re: RV-List: Avionics Idea... (not processed: message from valid local sender) --> RV-List message posted by: "Rob Prior (rv7)" On 13:06:10 2005-08-12 "Matt Johnson" wrote: > Does anyone have any idea of an instrument that either does not exist > or where whats available on the market is not satisfactory? I am > getting an itch to develop some sort of avionics as I enjoy aviation > and I program software and microcontrollers for a living... you can > email me off-list if anyone has some ideas or feedback... How about an open-source, open-hardware project to produce an EFIS and/or engine monitor? It should be possible to build these things for well under $1K for the hardware. Not to detract from the fine work that Dynon, BMA, and others have done, but they are costly. We can build airplanes for less than Cessna, how about some instruments that are cheaper too? :) -Rob ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:54:53 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: RV-8a Widow's Diary Updated From: "Stephanie Marshall" --> RV-List message posted by: "Stephanie Marshall" Happy Friday!!!!!!!!!!! I have finally finished updating the website (I know it is about time but life happens) :~) We just finished getting the Trim Tab installed and working! Cheers, Stephanie www.rv-8a.4t.com This electronic mail message is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, print, retain, copy, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender and delete all copies of this message. Thank you ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:58:29 PM PST US From: "Stan Jones" Subject: Re: RV-List: Canopy - How many more times? --> RV-List message posted by: "Stan Jones" Yes John , I can understand your frustration. I feel that there is quite a variation in the manufacture of the canopy frame. You seem to have struck a dud, and I have been just lucky, with not much bending to do. The Roll Bar was another story, and despite Vans instructions saying how easy it was, it took three grown men with Cargo Straps about a day to move it about 1/4 inch, with much bad language and muttering. I don't want to get on your "Hit List", but wait until you get to the rear skirts. I worked on mine for days, and could not get them fitted in an acceptable way. Gave up in the end. After looking at Sliders at OSH recently others have given up, and have settled for less than perfect. What I did in the end was. Laid up a sheet of three layers of Fiberglass on a sheet of Alloy with the plastic still on. Next morning peeled it off, and used the now very sad looking old skirts as a template, cut some new ones, and drilled them on. You can now use a heat gun to bend them to shape, and a dremel to cut out slots, and get them to fit just right. I have not done it yet, but I plan after riviting them on, I will put two more layers on to cover up the rivits, and the cuts I have made. This was my first go at working with Fiberglass, and I was not at all confident, but I am sure it will work out fine. As I have already pi**ed of too many people at Bob Colins' BBQ, and fearing for my safety, I will not discuss cutting the canopy. One thing though. Vans says to lay the frame in the upside down canopy, to find a good fit. Try this. Remove the complete front deck of the Fuse, and with the sliding frame in place, put the complete canopy in position. The front bit, soon to become the windscreen, will hang down in the Fuse, and you can move things around in order to find the sweet position. Don't forget to use lots of duct tape to prevent scratching. Not all the sliders I have seen are perfect, and unless you are aiming for a Show Plane, you must be realistic, as there are places, such as the front of the canopy, where you can cover up small imperfections with fiberglass. Good luck. Stan Jones -------Original Message------- From: JTAnon@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Canopy - How many more times? --> RV-List message posted by: JTAnon@aol.com Can anybody doing an RV7 slider give me an estimate on how many times you need to install, uninstall, bend; install, uninstall, bend; install, uninstall, bend; install, uninstall, bend; install, uninstall, bend; install the damn thing before you get it right? I mean, if I'm already up 500 cycles, am I half way there? One third? One quarter? Oh PLEASE, tell me I'm almost done! Do Not Archive .... Just trying to keep my sense of humor here. John McD (Will somebody come and do this thing for me?) PS. IF ANYBODY REPLIES THAT THEY HAD FUN DOING THE CANOPY I WILL HUNT THEM DOWN AND KILL THEM Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 03:39:36 PM PST US From: "Ed Holyoke" Subject: RE: RV-List: pictures --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" John, The list will be sent a message when the pix are posted. Pax, Ed -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Furey Subject: RV-List: pictures --> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" I sent the fuel vent pictures to pictures@matronics.com how can i see if they are available for viewing? Thanks John ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:19:21 PM PST US From: PSILeD@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Del 37 degree AN fitting seals --> RV-List message posted by: PSILeD@aol.com In a message dated 8/12/2005 2:32:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mick-matronics@rv8.ch writes: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/del37fittings.php Mickey, The Saturn V plumbing used these at all high pressure joints, working pressure was upward of 2000 psig. Worked very well there. Paul Peachtree City, Ga. ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 09:25:07 PM PST US From: "C J Heitman" Subject: RE: RV-List: Del 37 degree AN fitting seals --> RV-List message posted by: "C J Heitman" -3 and -4 seals available in copper for higher pressures. -4 thru -12 available in aluminum: http://pegasusautoracing.com/ProductSelection.asp?Product=3202 (Cost is lower than at Aircraft Spruce.) Chris Heitman -----Original Message----- Has anyone ever used these? They seem like a pretty good idea, but I've never heard of them before a day or two ago. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/del37fittings.php Thanks for any feedback. Mickey -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 finishing --