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1. 06:36 AM - SL30 Nav Antenna (Paul Brown)
2. 11:36 AM - [ David McNeill ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares)
3. 11:53 AM - Free to good home: Van's fuel gauges (Greg Grigson)
4. 01:03 PM - Re: Free to good home: Van's fuel gauges (Dave Cordner)
5. 01:12 PM - Re: SL30 Nav Antenna (GMC)
6. 01:17 PM - Re: SL30 Nav Antenna (Richard Reynolds)
7. 01:26 PM - Eustace Bowhay (Chris , Susie McGough)
8. 03:58 PM - ED Hicks in buffalo,ny (Steven DiNieri)
9. 04:56 PM - Tail Fairing (alan@reichertech.com)
10. 06:09 PM - Re: SL30 Nav Antenna (MLWynn@aol.com)
11. 06:19 PM - Lifting RV to set breakout force (Richard Suffoletto)
12. 06:24 PM - Re: Riveting while pregnant? (Charlie England)
13. 07:04 PM - Re: Riveting while pregnant? (sportav8r@aol.com)
14. 07:49 PM - Re: Lifting RV to set breakout force (charlie heathco)
15. 07:59 PM - Re: SL30 Nav Antenna (Mike Kraus)
16. 08:23 PM - Re: SL30 Nav Antenna (charlie heathco)
17. 08:25 PM - Re: Free to good home: Van's fuel gauges (JAMES BOWEN)
18. 08:49 PM - Re: Lifting RV to set breakout force (Walter Tondu)
19. 08:56 PM - Re: Abilene Formation Clinic, 23-25 Sep (charlie heathco)
20. 09:31 PM - Re: Lifting RV to set breakout force (Denis Walsh)
21. 10:19 PM - Re: Tail Fairing (Jim Jewell)
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| Subject: | SL30 Nav Antenna |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Brown" <nightmare@adelphia.net>
Listers,
What antenna are you using for the SL30 Nav side. I ordered the Miller "wisker"
antenna and the "hocky puck" is to big for the vertical fin. I have a tail dragger
and don't want to put it under the tail.
Paul
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| Subject: | [ David McNeill ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
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| Subject: | Free to good home: Van's fuel gauges |
--> RV-List message posted by: Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com>
I've got two Van's type fuel gauges that I don't need.
Contact me off line if you're interested in springing
for the postage of about $5-$10.
Greg in Honolulu
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| Subject: | Re: Free to good home: Van's fuel gauges |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dave Cordner" <davcor@comcast.net>
I can use 'em
Dave Cordner
Arvada, CO
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Grigson" <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV-List: Free to good home: Van's fuel gauges
> --> RV-List message posted by: Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com>
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> I've got two Van's type fuel gauges that I don't need.
> Contact me off line if you're interested in springing
> for the postage of about $5-$10.
>
> Greg in Honolulu
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| Subject: | Re: SL30 Nav Antenna |
--> RV-List message posted by: GMC <gmcnutt@shaw.ca>
Hi Paul
Common problem with the V cats whiskers.
Rivet an (upside down) |__| shaped bracket into the top of the
stabilizer to make a shelf for the antenna to sit on. Top of bracket &
bottom of the "hockey puck" then sit level with top of the stabilizer
skin. Next cut holes in each side of the fiberglass fairing so that it
fits over, and lets the "hockey puck" stick out evenly on each side of
fairing. Put two #10 plate nuts on bracket for mounting antenna and #6
plate nuts on fairing to make it removable. Grommets go in top & bottom
VS ribs for ant. wire which is easily fished through with welding rod,
hinge pin etc. Looks professional.
George in Langley BC
Paul Brown wrote:
>What antenna are you using for the SL30 Nav side. I ordered the Miller "wisker"
antenna and the "hocky puck" is to big for the vertical fin. I have a tail dragger
and don't want to put it under the tail.
>
>Paul
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| Subject: | Re: SL30 Nav Antenna |
--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Reynolds <rvreynolds@macs.net>
Paul,
With my SL-30, I used a Commant CI-158C mounted under the belly of
the horizontal stabilizer.
On the top of the vertical stabilizer, it may an "eye" poker,
depending on your air frame.
Richard Reynolds, RV-6A
Norfolk, VA
On Aug 20, 2005, at 9:35 AM, Paul Brown wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Brown" <nightmare@adelphia.net>
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> Listers,
>
> What antenna are you using for the SL30 Nav side. I ordered the
> Miller "wisker" antenna and the "hocky puck" is to big for the
> vertical fin. I have a tail dragger and don't want to put it under
> the tail.
>
> Paul
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Chris , Susie McGough" <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
Hi all
just a note to let you know that Eustace is doing a lot
better.While on holiday from Australia we visited Eustace in hospital and
was pleasantly surprised with his condition. He is still as witty as ever
and was leaving for his new abode the following day.Ofcourse he has some
work to do but I am sure being home and a good feed from Nora will do him
wonders
I am very sure he will be back on the list ASAP so I will let him update you
all on his address etc.
Regards Chris Mcgough
RV6 VH-MUM sold
RV10 Tail
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| Subject: | ED Hicks in buffalo,ny |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steven DiNieri" <capsteve@adelphia.net>
Arrangements have been made to bring Ed Hicks into Poughkeepsie, NY in the
first week of September. On sept 6th I'll be bringing him to the Niagara
falls, buffalo area and will be scheduling air to air photography to keep
him busy. So if anybody in the area would like to get some pictures taken
from sept 6th to the 8th give me a call or e-mail. Also we need some
formation experienced pilots to help out.
He'll be in Fulton, NY on the 9th and 10th for the Oswego county chapter 486
ELEVENTH ANNUAL RV Builders' Forum. (FZY)
Steve DiNieri
716.579.5790
capsteve@adelphia.net
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--> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com
Looking at the drawing for the HS on the -8 (drawing 3), I see that there
is a callout to leave 10 holes open (5 each side) on the inboard ribs,
topside, for attaching the fairing later. What I can't find in the
preview plans is *how* this is attached. Do the plans call for rivets to
attach them? If so, I think I'd rather put in nut plates for this.
Any pointers from the more experienced crowd?
Alternately, I've looked at the fairings-etc site. From the pics, it
looks like they have their own mounting screw locations, so these 10
places aren't even being used, correct?
Stop me now before I make (another) stupid mistake! :-)
--
Alan Reichert
Priv, Inst, SEL
RV-8 N927AR (reserved)
Prepping Horizontal/Vertical Stabilizers for Assembly
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| Subject: | Re: SL30 Nav Antenna |
--> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
Hi George.
That sounds slick. Got a photo?
Regards,
Michael Wynn
RV-8, Empennage
San Ramon, California
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| Subject: | Lifting RV to set breakout force |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Suffoletto" <rsuffoletto@hotmail.com>
Whast is the best way to lift the nose gear off the ground to check the
breakout force of the nose wheel on a 7-A ? I don't have access to a hoist
and am leary of using the old Cessna trick of puting weight on the tail to
get the nose off the ground.
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| Subject: | Re: Riveting while pregnant? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Hi Bill,
I'm catching up on emails after 10 days of vacation.
Just out of curiosity, what's their definition of 'intense'? 100 dB, or
is it like the poison threshold of water (if you drink enough it's
poisonous)? It's pretty much impossible to cause 16 hours of continuous
exposure to the noise of a rivet gun if you are actually building
something. A 16 hour session (impressive in itself; more so for a
pregnant woman) would probably result in about 1 hr total of noise exposure.
I read somewhere (sorry but I can't provide the reference) that children
aren't as susceptible to noise induced hearing damage as adults. I was
surprised when I read it as I've always felt that it was irresponsible
to expose babies/children to the sound levels at rock concerts.
Are you going to Winston-Salem Sept 10? We'll be in Greensboro that
weekend, I'm committed to attending a 1st B'day party but might be able
to make it before or after the party.
Charlie
sportav8r@aol.com wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>
>Here's what I got back from the local audiologist. There appears to be potential
cause for concern. Makes you wonder how many kids, whose mamas went to Led
Zeppelin concerts while pregnant, were born brain damaged as a result. I guess
it goes to show you: noise, like water and air, is bad for you and causes
cancer in California. Nothing in life is safe, which is why we need big.gov to
protect us from everything.
>
>-Stormy
>
>
>1: Ear Hear. 1999 Feb;20(1):21-32.Related Articles, Links
>
>
>Effects of intense noise exposure on fetal sheep auditory brain stem response
and inner ear histology.
>
>Gerhardt KJ, Pierson LL, Huang X, Abrams RM, Rarey KE.
>
>Department of Communication Sciences and Disorders and the Institute for the Advanced
Study of Communication Processes, University of Florida, Gainesville 32611,
USA.
>
>OBJECTIVE: To evaluate, in two separate experiments, the effects of intense noise
exposures delivered to fetal sheep in utero during a time of rapid auditory
development. DESIGN: In the first experiment, auditory brain stem response (ABR)
thresholds to clicks and tone bursts were recorded from chronically instrumented
fetal sheep in utero before and after exposure of pregnant ewes to intense
broadband noise. A single 16 hr exposure was delivered at 113 days gestational
age, a time when the ABR is just emerging. Thresholds were compared with
an age-matched, nonexposed control group. In the second experiment, fetal sheep
at the same gestational age were exposed four times to broadband noise and
their cochleae were harvested 20 days later for histological analysis by the use
of scanning electron microscopy. Comparisons were made with an age-matched,
nonexposed control group. RESULTS: Experiment One: ABR thresholds recorded between
10 to 20 days after the exposure were not as se
>n
> sitive as thresholds obtained from control fetuses. There was a tendency for
thresholds to 0.5 kHz tone bursts to be more affected than thresholds to clicks.
Experiment Two: Scanning electron microscopy of the organ of Corti from fetuses
exposed to noise from 111 to 114 days gestational age revealed significant
damage to inner and outer hair cells in the middle and apical turns of cochleae.
Similar hair cell damage was not present in control fetuses. CONCLUSIONS:
Intense exogenous noise penetrated the uterus of pregnant sheep and resulted
in elevations in ABR thresholds 2 to 3 wk after exposure. In fetuses repeatedly
exposed to noise, the middle and apical turns of the cochlea showed greater
hair cell damage than found at the same locations in control cochlea. The basal
turn of the cochlea was not damaged
>
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| Subject: | Re: Riveting while pregnant? |
--> RV-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
I think it's an (intensity x duration)= exposure thing, Charlie. Certainly there
is a threshold below which no damage will occur regardless of exposure, but
it's likely lower than the sound, say, of a contentious woman. Not sure how
I'd know that, exactly.
I'll bite on your question: what's happening Sept 10th in Winston-Salem?
-Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Riveting while pregnant?
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Hi Bill,
I'm catching up on emails after 10 days of vacation.
Just out of curiosity, what's their definition of 'intense'? 100 dB, or
is it like the poison threshold of water (if you drink enough it's
poisonous)? It's pretty much impossible to cause 16 hours of continuous
exposure to the noise of a rivet gun if you are actually building
something. A 16 hour session (impressive in itself; more so for a
pregnant woman) would probably result in about 1 hr total of noise exposure.
I read somewhere (sorry but I can't provide the reference) that children
aren't as susceptible to noise induced hearing damage as adults. I was
surprised when I read it as I've always felt that it was irresponsible
to expose babies/children to the sound levels at rock concerts.
Are you going to Winston-Salem Sept 10? We'll be in Greensboro that
weekend, I'm committed to attending a 1st B'day party but might be able
to make it before or after the party.
Charlie
sportav8r@aol.com wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>
>Here's what I got back from the local audiologist. There appears to be
potential cause for concern. Makes you wonder how many kids, whose mamas went
to Led Zeppelin concerts while pregnant, were born brain damaged as a result.
I
guess it goes to show you: noise, like water and air, is bad for you and causes
cancer in California. Nothing in life is safe, which is why we need big.gov to
protect us from everything.
>
>-Stormy
>
>
>1: Ear Hear. 1999 Feb;20(1):21-32.Related Articles, Links
>
>
>Effects of intense noise exposure on fetal sheep auditory brain stem response
and inner ear histology.
>
>Gerhardt KJ, Pierson LL, Huang X, Abrams RM, Rarey KE.
>
>Department of Communication Sciences and Disorders and the Institute for the
Advanced Study of Communication Processes, University of Florida, Gainesville
32611, USA.
>
>OBJECTIVE: To evaluate, in two separate experiments, the effects of intense
noise exposures delivered to fetal sheep in utero during a time of rapid
auditory development. DESIGN: In the first experiment, auditory brain stem
response (ABR) thresholds to clicks and tone bursts were recorded from
chronically instrumented fetal sheep in utero before and after exposure of
pregnant ewes to intense broadband noise. A single 16 hr exposure was delivered
at 113 days gestational age, a time when the ABR is just emerging. Thresholds
were compared with an age-matched, nonexposed control group. In the second
experiment, fetal sheep at the same gestational age were exposed four times to
broadband noise and their cochleae were harvested 20 days later for histological
analysis by the use of scanning electron microscopy. Comparisons were made with
an age-matched, nonexposed control group. RESULTS: Experiment One: ABR
thresholds recorded between 10 to 20 days after the exposure were not as se
>n
> sitive as thresholds obtained from control fetuses. There was a tendency for
thresholds to 0.5 kHz tone bursts to be more affected than thresholds to clicks.
Experiment Two: Scanning electron microscopy of the organ of Corti from fetuses
exposed to noise from 111 to 114 days gestational age revealed significant
damage to inner and outer hair cells in the middle and apical turns of cochleae.
Similar hair cell damage was not present in control fetuses. CONCLUSIONS:
Intense exogenous noise penetrated the uterus of pregnant sheep and resulted in
elevations in ABR thresholds 2 to 3 wk after exposure. In fetuses repeatedly
exposed to noise, the middle and apical turns of the cochlea showed greater hair
cell damage than found at the same locations in control cochlea. The basal turn
of the cochlea was not damaged
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lifting RV to set breakout force |
version=3.0.2
--> RV-List message posted by: "charlie heathco" <cheathco@gvtc.com>
Well, I put 2 5 gal cans of gas, one on each side of the horz stab close to
the fusl. to make it very easy to lift the front wheel for setting it on a
block. Of course I had the pants off, with a helper that should work,
Charlie Heathco.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Suffoletto" <rsuffoletto@hotmail.com>
Subject: RV-List: Lifting RV to set breakout force
--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Suffoletto"
<rsuffoletto@hotmail.com>
Whast is the best way to lift the nose gear off the ground to check the
breakout force of the nose wheel on a 7-A ? I don't have access to a hoist
and am leary of using the old Cessna trick of puting weight on the tail to
get the nose off the ground.
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| Subject: | SL30 Nav Antenna |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Kraus" <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
I use a Bob Archer wing tip antenna. Granted it is on a KX155, but I
think it would also work fine on a SL30 as that is what I plan on using
in my -10. The nice thing is it is totally hidden within your wing tip,
so it won't poke anyone in the eye like if you put a whisker antenna on
the VS of any RV tail dragger.....
-Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MLWynn@aol.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: SL30 Nav Antenna
--> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
Hi George.
That sounds slick. Got a photo?
Regards,
Michael Wynn
RV-8, Empennage
San Ramon, California
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| Subject: | Re: SL30 Nav Antenna |
version=3.0.2
--> RV-List message posted by: "charlie heathco" <cheathco@gvtc.com>
I installed a Bob Archer in the wing tip to replace to whip the org builder
of my 6a had installed, still marginal reception. I took Mike S advice and
spent the mony on a blade and installed in underside, just left of 2nd rib
from center, get exelent reception. If you are going for formation flying,
this is the prefered setup, Charlie Heathco Boerne Stage.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Kraus" <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
Subject: RE: RV-List: SL30 Nav Antenna
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Kraus" <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
I use a Bob Archer wing tip antenna. Granted it is on a KX155, but I
think it would also work fine on a SL30 as that is what I plan on using
in my -10. The nice thing is it is totally hidden within your wing tip,
so it won't poke anyone in the eye like if you put a whisker antenna on
the VS of any RV tail dragger.....
-Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MLWynn@aol.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: SL30 Nav Antenna
--> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
Hi George.
That sounds slick. Got a photo?
Regards,
Michael Wynn
RV-8, Empennage
San Ramon, California
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| Subject: | Re: Free to good home: Van's fuel gauges |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JAMES BOWEN" <jabowenjr@hotmail.com>
I'll take em if their still available.
jim Bowen
RV-8 QB
Sumner, Wa
>From: "Dave Cordner" <davcor@comcast.net>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Free to good home: Van's fuel gauges
>Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 13:59:12 -0600
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dave Cordner" <davcor@comcast.net>
>
>I can use 'em
>
>
>Dave Cordner
>Arvada, CO
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Greg Grigson" <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com>
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Free to good home: Van's fuel gauges
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com>
> >
> >
> > I've got two Van's type fuel gauges that I don't need.
> > Contact me off line if you're interested in springing
> > for the postage of about $5-$10.
> >
> > Greg in Honolulu
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Lifting RV to set breakout force |
--> RV-List message posted by: Walter Tondu <walter@tondu.com>
On 08/20 6:18, Richard Suffoletto wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Suffoletto" <rsuffoletto@hotmail.com>
>
> Whast is the best way to lift the nose gear off the ground to check the
> breakout force of the nose wheel on a 7-A ? I don't have access to a hoist
> and am leary of using the old Cessna trick of puting weight on the tail to
> get the nose off the ground.
Attach a sturdy item like a bucket hanging from the rear tie down hook.
Add lead shot, dive belts or anything else heavy until it takes
only your hand to lift the nosegear. If I remember correctly it took
two dive belts and two bags of lead shot.
--
Walter Tondu
http://www.rv7-a.com
Flying, HA!
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| Subject: | Re: Abilene Formation Clinic, 23-25 Sep |
version=3.0.2
--> RV-List message posted by: "charlie heathco" <cheathco@gvtc.com>
I have wanted to get involved with the formation flying and have read the
manual and watched the vidios. I also did a form takeoff which was a lot of
funn as we stayed in ground and built up speed for a dramatic pullup, and I
came in pretty close on BFBilly, but it was very turb and I felt comming in
real close was too risky, also flying into the sun the vis was poor. While
flying around today I was bouncing around like crazy, one time poped up 100'
before I cought it, I am concerned mostly about staying in place under these
conditions. I have meet several of the experienced folks when you came into
Mathis last year and had to wait several hrs to get out that Sat morn. All I
talked to had lots of formation time. My WWII budy had 100hrs of form time
in his B-26 before they turned him loose. I only have about 75 hrs in my 6a
which is only 150 hp, mostly X-country and landing practice. Evryone I met
that day had 180hp or better. I do have a Comm/Multi, but 35 yrs pased
between gettings those ratings an getting bak to flying. I wish I had the
absolute confidence and immortal thinking that Mike has, but alas, in spite
of the
insane flying I did in 68, I no longer do. Do I have a Chance in the
formation clinick? charlie Heathco Boerne.
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From: <sturdy@att.net>
Subject: RV-List: Abilene Formation Clinic, 23-25 Sep
--> RV-List message posted by: sturdy@att.net
The Abilene Airfest Formation Flying Clinic will be conducted at Abilene
Regional Airport (KABI) on 23-25 Sep. The clinic is being conducted by
Stu McCurdy and Mike Stewart and will follow the sequence previously used at
our other successful formation clinics. The clinic targets RV type
aircraft, but aircraft of similar configuration and airspeeds will be
considered. The clinic is held for pilots of all formation backgrounds from
no experience to highly experienced, but all registrants should have
excellent stick and rudder skills. We generally like a mix of 1/3 no/little
experience, 1/3 medium experience, 1/3 highly experienced. Please note we
expect participants to be prepared by obtaining and studying referenced
materials. To read clinic info, to register, as well as to make your motel
reservations, go here
http://bigcountryairfest.org/html/formation_flight_clinic.html. We will
limit total participation. Also, please note the block of rooms will be held
only until
8 Sep, so early registration is encouraged.
Stu McCurdy
Falcon Flight
FFI
RV-8
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The Abilene Airfest Formation Flying Clinic will be conducted at Abilene
Regional Airport (KABI) on 23-25 Sep. The clinic is being conducted by Stu
McCurdy and <st1:PersonName>Mike Stewart</st1:PersonName> and will follow
the sequence previously used at our other successful formation clinics. The
clinic targets RV type aircraft, but aircraft of similar configuration and
airspeeds will be considered. The clinic is held for pilots of all formation
backgrounds from no experience to highly experienced, but all registrants
should have excellent stick and rudder skills. </
SPAN>We generally like a mix of 1/3 no/little experience, 1/3 medium
experience, 1/3 highly experienced. Please note we expect participants to be
prepared by obtaining and studying referenced materials. To read clinic
info, to register, as well as to make your motel reservations, go here
http://bigcountryairfest.org/html/formation_flight_clinic.html. We will
limit total participation. Also, please note the block of rooms will be held
only until 8 Sep, so early registration is encouraged.
Stu McCurdy
Falcon Flight
FFI
RV-8
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| Subject: | Re: Lifting RV to set breakout force |
--> RV-List message posted by: Denis Walsh <denis.walsh@comcast.net>
Lots of ways to skin that cat.
My technique for the 6A is to chock the mains, take off the front
half of the nose pant. Then get a helper to slip some blocks under
the nose gear strut bottom while you push down on the horizontal
stab. I put my elbows and forearms along the rib in the stab and
stay inboard from that. When the helper has the block in place,
lower gently. You can then check and adjustthe break out force. You
can also change a tire this way. If you need to get the fork or nose
strut off, you will need to use another method. Two are
listed below.
When no helper is available, I use a couple 70 lb sand tubes sold at
home depot for adding weight to your trunk or pickup bed during
winter months. They need some anti skid material beneath them lest
they slide off when the tail is depressed. This will leave your tail
on the hangar floor. I believe the horizontal stab is plenty strong
enough for this method; although I too would be leary of doing it
with some Cessnas, which do not appear to have such sturdy tail.
A better method is to get a chain or rope and pull down on the tail
ring. You can either install a permanent tie down ring on your
hangar floor or get a weighted rig of some sort.
Lastly I once saw a "prop stand" a fellow had made for his
Lancair. It was a device which had two horizontal forks with
adjustable height. This allowed you to push down the tail then lower
the nose so the propeller rested on the forks. That one makes me a
little nervous especially for a 7A which would have more than 300
pounds force put on the prop and crank not to mention the engine mount.
Denis Walsh
On Aug 20, 2005, at 7:18 PM, Richard Suffoletto wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Suffoletto"
> <rsuffoletto@hotmail.com>
>
> Whast is the best way to lift the nose gear off the ground to check
> the
> breakout force of the nose wheel on a 7-A ? I don't have access to
> a hoist
> and am leary of using the old Cessna trick of puting weight on the
> tail to
> get the nose off the ground.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tail Fairing |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Hi Alan,
I think that you will find installing nut plates later to be a good answer.
If you use his intersection fairing? Bob's fairings wrap around the
horizontal stab leading edges some amount and you might get away with
requiring less fasteners?.
As far as quality and fit are concerned I found his 6A gear fairings to be
very good products.
If you like Go ahead and rivet all the holes for now. Later you can drill
out any that you might need to when the time comes to do the final fitting.
I used the Van's supplied fairing circa 1996. I modified it to wrap around
the H. stab leading edge a bit because I felt it would stay in place better
and look better.
It took a lot of doing to make that stock Van's part fit well. I chose to
use the ten fasteners called for. To my eye they don't look out of place and
they get the job done well enough.
Happy building,
Jim in Kelowna
----- Original Message -----
From: <alan@reichertech.com>
Subject: RV-List: Tail Fairing
> --> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com
>
>
> Looking at the drawing for the HS on the -8 (drawing 3), I see that there
> is a callout to leave 10 holes open (5 each side) on the inboard ribs,
> topside, for attaching the fairing later. What I can't find in the
> preview plans is *how* this is attached. Do the plans call for rivets to
> attach them? If so, I think I'd rather put in nut plates for this.
>
> Any pointers from the more experienced crowd?
>
> Alternately, I've looked at the fairings-etc site. From the pics, it
> looks like they have their own mounting screw locations, so these 10
> places aren't even being used, correct?
>
> Stop me now before I make (another) stupid mistake! :-)
>
> --
> Alan Reichert
> Priv, Inst, SEL
> RV-8 N927AR (reserved)
> Prepping Horizontal/Vertical Stabilizers for Assembly
>
>
>
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