---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 08/21/05: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:02 AM - Re: Abilene Formation Clinic, 23-25 Sep (linn walters) 2. 05:24 AM - Re: Tail Fairing (Larry Bowen) 3. 07:25 AM - Re: SL30 Nav Antenna (sturdy@att.net) 4. 08:07 AM - Re: Lifting RV to set breakout force (D.Bristol) 5. 08:41 AM - Van's 60 Amp Alternator Failure - Beck Arnley Replacement Part Number 186-0373 (John Wiegenstein) 6. 08:46 AM - Fairings, Etc, for Horizontal Stab (Pete Waters) 7. 10:04 AM - Re: Fairings, Etc, for Horizontal Stab (Vanremog@aol.com) 8. 10:12 AM - Re: Fairings, Etc, for Horizontal Stab (alan@reichertech.com) 9. 10:26 AM - Re: Fairings, Etc, for Horizontal Stab (Kevin Horton) 10. 04:10 PM - Re: SL30 Nav Antenna (Brian Denk) 11. 04:32 PM - Re: Engine Overhaul Seminar (charlie heathco) 12. 04:33 PM - accidental post re engine seminar (charlie heathco) 13. 05:40 PM - Re: (charlie heathco) 14. 05:42 PM - Re: Fairings, Etc, for Horizontal Stab (Jim Jewell) 15. 06:52 PM - Infinity Trim Relay Deck (Lui Esc) 16. 06:54 PM - balancing wheel fairings (sarg314) 17. 07:31 PM - Re: balancing wheel fairings (John Furey) 18. 09:03 PM - Life Insurance... (Matt Johnson) 19. 09:15 PM - Re: Life Insurance... (not processed: message from valid local sender) 2.02 SUBJ_LIFE_INSURANCE Subject includes "life insurance" (Jeffery J. Morgan) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:02:58 AM PST US From: linn walters Subject: Re: RV-List: Abilene Formation Clinic, 23-25 Sep --> RV-List message posted by: linn walters Just a comment from an 'outsider'. I don't have an RV yet. I have a Pitts and a Traumahawk that I routinely fly form with other aircraft in my group (I'm always "2"). But I attended the fromation clinic that was given at Lakeland a few years back. From the git-go, this was a really well run, professional clinic. The first thing Mike Stewart said was "Formation flying should never be done in dissimilar aircraft". Well there just ain't anyway I'm going to buy another airplane or get my buddies to just so we can have 'like aircraft'. But I digress ...... If you have an interest in form flying, then go to the clinic. The ground shcool part is incredibly intense on it's own and covers everything from soup to nuts. Even if you have a vernier throttle .... go anyway. You can ride with other pilots in the flying part, and all you don't get is the handling of the stick. I understand where the rules come from ..... these folks are real heavy on the safety part. This is really, really good. They also paired aircraft by performance too, so your 'small' engine should be OK. But get that from the horses mouth. My comment is to go. You'll learn far more and be a more capable form pilot ..... no matter who or what you fly with after the clinic. Linn ..... can't wait to get some -10's together!!! do not archive charlie heathco wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "charlie heathco" > >I have wanted to get involved with the formation flying and have read the >manual and watched the vidios. I also did a form takeoff which was a lot of >funn as we stayed in ground and built up speed for a dramatic pullup, and I >came in pretty close on BFBilly, but it was very turb and I felt comming in >real close was too risky, also flying into the sun the vis was poor. While >flying around today I was bouncing around like crazy, one time poped up 100' >before I cought it, I am concerned mostly about staying in place under these >conditions. I have meet several of the experienced folks when you came into >Mathis last year and had to wait several hrs to get out that Sat morn. All I >talked to had lots of formation time. My WWII budy had 100hrs of form time >in his B-26 before they turned him loose. I only have about 75 hrs in my 6a >which is only 150 hp, mostly X-country and landing practice. Evryone I met >that day had 180hp or better. I do have a Comm/Multi, but 35 yrs pased >between gettings those ratings an getting bak to flying. I wish I had the >absolute confidence and immortal thinking that Mike has, but alas, in spite >of the >insane flying I did in 68, I no longer do. Do I have a Chance in the >formation clinick? charlie Heathco Boerne. >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: "RV-List" >Subject: RV-List: Abilene Formation Clinic, 23-25 Sep > > >--> RV-List message posted by: sturdy@att.net > >The Abilene Airfest Formation Flying Clinic will be conducted at Abilene >Regional Airport (KABI) on 23-25 Sep. The clinic is being conducted by >Stu McCurdy and Mike Stewart and will follow the sequence previously used at >our other successful formation clinics. The clinic targets RV type >aircraft, but aircraft of similar configuration and airspeeds will be >considered. The clinic is held for pilots of all formation backgrounds from >no experience to highly experienced, but all registrants should have >excellent stick and rudder skills. We generally like a mix of 1/3 no/little >experience, 1/3 medium experience, 1/3 highly experienced. Please note we >expect participants to be prepared by obtaining and studying referenced >materials. To read clinic info, to register, as well as to make your motel >reservations, go here >http://bigcountryairfest.org/html/formation_flight_clinic.html. We will >limit total participation. Also, please note the block of rooms will be held >only until > 8 Sep, so early registration is encouraged. > >Stu McCurdy >Falcon Flight >FFI >RV-8 > > > > > > > >The Abilene Airfest Formation Flying Clinic will be conducted at Abilene >Regional Airport (KABI) on 23-25 Sep. The clinic is being conducted by Stu >McCurdy and Mike Stewart and will follow >the sequence previously used at our other successful formation clinics. The >clinic targets RV type aircraft, but aircraft of similar configuration and >airspeeds will be considered. The clinic is held for pilots of all formation >backgrounds from no experience to highly experienced, but all registrants >should have excellent stick and rudder skills. SPAN>We generally like a mix of 1/3 no/little experience, 1/3 medium >experience, 1/3 highly experienced. Please note we expect participants to be >prepared by obtaining and studying referenced materials. To read clinic >info, to register, as well as to make your motel reservations, go here >http://bigcountryairfest.org/html/formation_flight_clinic.html. We will >limit total participation. Also, please note the block of rooms will be held >only until 8 Sep, so early registration is encouraged. > > >Stu McCurdy > > >Falcon Flight > > >FFI > > >RV-8 > > > > > > > -- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:24:52 AM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: RV-List: Tail Fairing --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Screws and nutplates. I remember X-ing those holes with red marker so I wouldn't dimple them, so I guess it's specified in the plans somewhere. If needed, existing rivets can be drilled out for nutplates later, so I didn't think it's a critical decision at this point. - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > alan@reichertech.com > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 7:56 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: Tail Fairing > > --> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com > > > Looking at the drawing for the HS on the -8 (drawing 3), I > see that there is a callout to leave 10 holes open (5 each > side) on the inboard ribs, topside, for attaching the fairing > later. What I can't find in the preview plans is *how* this > is attached. Do the plans call for rivets to attach them? > If so, I think I'd rather put in nut plates for this. > > Any pointers from the more experienced crowd? > > Alternately, I've looked at the fairings-etc site. From the > pics, it looks like they have their own mounting screw > locations, so these 10 places aren't even being used, correct? > > Stop me now before I make (another) stupid mistake! :-) > > -- > Alan Reichert > Priv, Inst, SEL > RV-8 N927AR (reserved) > Prepping Horizontal/Vertical Stabilizers for Assembly > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:25:39 AM PST US From: sturdy@att.net 1.25 RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO Received: contains an IP address used for HELO --> RV-List message posted by: sturdy@att.net I have a Bob Archer antenna in my RV-8 right wingtip for the NAV portion of my SL30 and receive VORs 80-90 nm out and ILS just fine. I do not know of a preferred location for a NAV antenna for formation??? Unless you are the flight lead, you should not be looking at a VOR indicator anyway. I have led a couple formation flights and the Bob Archer wingtip NAV antenna has always displayed a VOR radial just fine in the SL30 for keeping in the assigned area, even while maneuvering. Stu McCurdy --------------------------------------------- Time: 08:23:33 PM PST US From: "charlie heathco" Subject: Re: RV-List: SL30 Nav Antenna version=3.0.2 --> RV-List message posted by: "charlie heathco" I installed a Bob Archer in the wing tip to replace to whip the org builder of my 6a had installed, still marginal reception. I took Mike S advice and spent the mony on a blade and installed in underside, just left of 2nd rib from center, get exelent reception. If you are going for formation flying, this is the prefered setup, Charlie Heathco Boerne Stage. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Kraus" Subject: RE: RV-List: SL30 Nav Antenna --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Kraus" I use a Bob Archer wing tip antenna. Granted it is on a KX155, but I think it would also work fine on a SL30 as that is what I plan on using in my -10. The nice thing is it is totally hidden within your wing tip, so it won't poke anyone in the eye like if you put a whisker antenna on the VS of any RV tail dragger..... -Mike ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:07:26 AM PST US From: "D.Bristol" Subject: Re: RV-List: Lifting RV to set breakout force --> RV-List message posted by: "D.Bristol" Gosh, and it's sooo simple with a tailwheel! ; > ) Dave -6 do not archive please Denis Walsh wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: Denis Walsh > >Lots of ways to skin that cat. > >My technique for the 6A is to chock the mains, take off the front >half of the nose pant. Then get a helper to slip some blocks under >the nose gear strut bottom while you push down on the horizontal >stab. I put my elbows and forearms along the rib in the stab and >stay inboard from that. When the helper has the block in place, >lower gently. You can then check and adjustthe break out force. You >can also change a tire this way. If you need to get the fork or nose >strut off, you will need to use another method. Two are >listed below. > >When no helper is available, I use a couple 70 lb sand tubes sold at >home depot for adding weight to your trunk or pickup bed during >winter months. They need some anti skid material beneath them lest >they slide off when the tail is depressed. This will leave your tail >on the hangar floor. I believe the horizontal stab is plenty strong >enough for this method; although I too would be leary of doing it >with some Cessnas, which do not appear to have such sturdy tail. > >A better method is to get a chain or rope and pull down on the tail >ring. You can either install a permanent tie down ring on your >hangar floor or get a weighted rig of some sort. > >Lastly I once saw a "prop stand" a fellow had made for his >Lancair. It was a device which had two horizontal forks with >adjustable height. This allowed you to push down the tail then lower >the nose so the propeller rested on the forks. That one makes me a >little nervous especially for a 7A which would have more than 300 >pounds force put on the prop and crank not to mention the engine mount. > > >Denis Walsh > >On Aug 20, 2005, at 7:18 PM, Richard Suffoletto wrote: > > > >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Richard Suffoletto" >> >> >>Whast is the best way to lift the nose gear off the ground to check >>the >>breakout force of the nose wheel on a 7-A ? I don't have access to >>a hoist >>and am leary of using the old Cessna trick of puting weight on the >>tail to >>get the nose off the ground. >> >> >> >> > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:41:28 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Van's 60 Amp Alternator Failure - Beck Arnley Replacement Part Number 186-0373 From: "John Wiegenstein" --> RV-List message posted by: "John Wiegenstein" For all you folks running the Van's 60 amp alternator, if you need a replacement unit it is a Lester #14684, which cross references to several different manufacturer numbers. At your local NAPA store you should be able to find it as a remanufactured unit from Beck Arnley, p/n 186-0373. Cost is about $129 plus core. I had occasion to learn this after the Van's alternator in N727JW (came with FWF kit in 2003, had 70 hrs on it) rolled over and died while I was visiting Seaside, OR last week. A quick check of the symptoms and system components convinced me that the problem was with the alternator itself. Fortunately, a local helicopter tour pilot happened to come by the airport as I was troubleshooting things, and he helped with some tools and a ride to the rental car office in Astoria. After runnning back home to Hansville for the night, grabbing tools, finding the replacement alternator, etc. I drove back yesterday to Seaside and swapped the new unit in in 30 minutes. It was a perfect drop in replacement. The old unit had a broken rear bracket (the pressed steel one that comes with the alternator), and the machine screws holding the bracket to the alternator body had loosened significantly. The original installation had lined up well and seemed to be a good setup. My suspicion is that these screws loosened up first, allowing the alternator body to move around somewhat, and that this flexing and uneven loads eventually caused an internal failure of some kind. The famed Lycosaur shakes presumably hastened the early demise. The new unit worked fine and a 35 minute flight had me back at Tacoma Narrows - much better that 3.5 hours in a thoroughly unimpressive Chevy Impala rental (and GM wonders why they're losing market share . . .). Annual inspection is due next month and I may R&R those bracket mounting machine screws and use some Loctite on them just to play it safe. The original Van's unit had always produced plenty of amps and a solid, steady 14.4 volts bus voltage at cruise, and the new one seems to be the same in that regard - it came with a test data sheet showing 52 amps max output, which is more than enough for my aircraft. Anyway, thanks to Gary Turel of Seaside Helicopters for lending a helping hand at a time of need (there ain't much at the Seaside Airport, 56S - just some tie downs and a honeybucket), and perhaps this info on the replacement Beck Arnley part will help someone else out. Will be interesting to see how long the replacement unit lasts. Naturally, I had just been commenting a few days before to my wife about how trouble-free and reliable the RV has been so far . . . :-) John Wiegenstein Hansville, WA RV-6 N727 JW - 70 hrs. (and a new alternator) ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:46:15 AM PST US From: Pete Waters Subject: RV-List: Fairings, Etc, for Horizontal Stab --> RV-List message posted by: Pete Waters Gang, Exactly where is the "fairings-etc" website referenced below? Thanks, Pedro RV-4 N562PW << Alternately, I've looked at the fairings-etc site. From the pics, it looks like they have their own mounting screw locations, so these 10 places aren't even being used, correct?>> --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:04:55 AM PST US From: Vanremog@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Fairings, Etc, for Horizontal Stab --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com In a message dated 8/21/2005 8:47:22 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pedroagua@yahoo.com writes: Exactly where is the "fairings-etc" website referenced below? ==================================== For all you newbies, contact info for and links to all well known RV suppliers resides at _http://www.matronics.com/YellerPages/_ (http://www.matronics.com/YellerPages/) GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 755hrs, Silicon Valley, CA) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:12:31 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: RE: Fairings, Etc, for Horizontal Stab From: alan@reichertech.com --> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com http://www.fairings-etc.com - Alan --> RV-List message posted by: Pete Waters Gang, Exactly where is the "fairings-etc" website referenced below? Thanks, Pedro RV-4 N562PW << Alternately, I've looked at the fairings-etc site. From the pics, it looks like they have their own mounting screw locations, so these 10 places aren't even being used, correct?>> -- Alan Reichert Priv, Inst, SEL RV-8 N927AR (reserved) Prepping Horizontal/Vertical Stabilizers for Assembly ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:26:53 AM PST US From: Kevin Horton Subject: Re: RV-List: Fairings, Etc, for Horizontal Stab --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton On 21 Aug 2005, at 11:45, Pete Waters wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Pete Waters > > Gang, > > Exactly where is the "fairings-etc" website referenced below? > Try http://www.google.com/search?q=fairings-etc Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit) Ottawa, Canada http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:10:07 PM PST US From: "Brian Denk" Subject: Re: RV-List: SL30 Nav Antenna --> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" There is no reason I can think of to not put a cat whisker nav antenna under the tail on an RV taildragger. Jeff Ludwig's wonderful (and Air Venture cup winning) RV-8 had (sold it) this setup and it flew hard IFR for years without any problems at all. Anyone who puts this kind of antenna on the top of a taildragger RV vertical stab should be flogged for presenting a clear and present safety danger to anyone on the ground. For a nosedragger RV, it's OK, but taildragger, no way. I'd be looking for a hacksaw if I see one. The vision you save may be your own. My opinion only. But, show me where I'm wrong. There are no compromises when it comes to safety. Oh, the Archer antennas are terrific. I'm using them on my -10 when the time comes. Brian Denk RV8 N94BD RV10 '51 >Paul, > >With my SL-30, I used a Commant CI-158C mounted under the belly of >the horizontal stabilizer. > >On the top of the vertical stabilizer, it may an "eye" poker, >depending on your air frame. > >Richard Reynolds, RV-6A >Norfolk, VA > >On Aug 20, 2005, at 9:35 AM, Paul Brown wrote: > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Brown" > > > > Listers, > > > > What antenna are you using for the SL30 Nav side. I ordered the > > Miller "wisker" antenna and the "hocky puck" is to big for the > > vertical fin. I have a tail dragger and don't want to put it under > > the tail. > > > > Paul > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:32:44 PM PST US From: "charlie heathco" Subject: Re: RV-List: Engine Overhaul Seminar version=3.0.2 --> RV-List message posted by: "charlie heathco" Hiya Mathew, I had gotten it my mind that the seminar was going to be in tulsa since that was the place mentioned in your post. I didnt even notice the little box on the reg form until just a while ago when looking it over to see which airport, I even thought that Lees summit airport must be in the tulsa area, untill I put it in my gps and it shot a line to leesumit Mo. I had planned on combining trip to NW arkproperty, but LS MO is too long a trip, nearly 800 air miles. Out of the question if had to end up driving due to weather. I see its a no refund deal, but since its over a month away hope you can make an exeption in this case? Charlie heathco ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Brandes" Subject: RV-List: Engine Overhaul Seminar --> RV-List message posted by: "Matthew Brandes" Ever wondered what is involved in overhauling a Lycoming engine? Here's your chance! On September 24th, join Allen Barrett of Barrett Precision Engines of Tulsa, OK in the rebuild of a Lycoming O-320 engine. Watch as we rebuild the entire engine from parts to completion. Gain a better understanding of the process and costs involved. Learn valuable tips and tricks from engine builders with over 60 years of experience! Space is limited. http://www.home.earthlink.net/~eaa1329/EngineOverhaulSeminar.pdf Matthew Brandes, EAA Chapter 1329 President ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:33:42 PM PST US From: "charlie heathco" Subject: RV-List: accidental post re engine seminar autolearn=unavailable version=3.0.2 --> RV-List message posted by: "charlie heathco" Sorry about posting , I ment to send direct. Charlie H Do not archive ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:40:52 PM PST US From: "charlie heathco" Subject: RV-List: Re: version=3.0.2 --> RV-List message posted by: "charlie heathco" Sorry for the confusion, I was refering to comm ant, Charlie h do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: --> RV-List message posted by: sturdy@att.net I have a Bob Archer antenna in my RV-8 right wingtip for the NAV portion of my SL30 and receive VORs 80-90 nm out and ILS just fine. I do not know of a preferred location for a NAV antenna for formation??? Unless you are the flight lead, you should not be looking at a VOR indicator anyway. I have led a couple formation flights and the Bob Archer wingtip NAV antenna has always displayed a VOR radial just fine in the SL30 for keeping in the assigned area, even while maneuvering. Stu McCurdy --------------------------------------------- Time: 08:23:33 PM PST US From: "charlie heathco" Subject: Re: RV-List: SL30 Nav Antenna version=3.0.2 --> RV-List message posted by: "charlie heathco" I installed a Bob Archer in the wing tip to replace to whip the org builder of my 6a had installed, still marginal reception. I took Mike S advice and spent the mony on a blade and installed in underside, just left of 2nd rib from center, get exelent reception. If you are going for formation flying, this is the prefered setup, Charlie Heathco Boerne Stage. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Kraus" Subject: RE: RV-List: SL30 Nav Antenna --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Kraus" I use a Bob Archer wing tip antenna. Granted it is on a KX155, but I think it would also work fine on a SL30 as that is what I plan on using in my -10. The nice thing is it is totally hidden within your wing tip, so it won't poke anyone in the eye like if you put a whisker antenna on the VS of any RV tail dragger..... -Mike ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:42:47 PM PST US From: "Jim Jewell" Subject: Re: RV-List: Fairings, Etc, for Horizontal Stab --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" Hi Pete, Try http://www.fairings-etc.com/ Jim in Kelowna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Waters" Subject: RV-List: Fairings, Etc, for Horizontal Stab > --> RV-List message posted by: Pete Waters > > Gang, > > Exactly where is the "fairings-etc" website referenced below? > > Thanks, > Pedro > > RV-4 N562PW > > << Alternately, I've looked at the fairings-etc site. From the pics, it > looks like they have their own mounting screw locations, so these 10 > places aren't even being used, correct?>> > > > --------------------------------- > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:52:23 PM PST US From: "Lui Esc" Subject: RV-List: Infinity Trim Relay Deck --> RV-List message posted by: "Lui Esc" I was wondering if anyone has used the Infinity Relay Deck for the elevator and aileron trim? Infinity Aeropsace Trim Relay Deck, see at http://www.infinityaerospace.com/Relay_Deck_Wiring_Schematic.jpg 1. Have you had the need for Trim Speed control using this Relay Deck? 2. Did you figure out a way to wire a speed control module with this Relay Deck? Thank you, Luis ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:54:55 PM PST US From: sarg314 Subject: RV-List: balancing wheel fairings --> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 I just balanced my main wheel fairings (RV-6A) using the lead shot & epoxy method described here several times. Is there any need to also balance the nose wheel fairing? It seems to be physically constrained better than the main wheel fairings, so I'm thinking there is no point in doing it. -- Tom Sargent RV-6A, Cowling ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:31:20 PM PST US From: "John Furey" Subject: RE: RV-List: balancing wheel fairings --> RV-List message posted by: "John Furey" I was having a constant shimmy in my nose gear that I did not notice but a formation partner said was very noticeable so I just did the balance but have not had it checked yet. I'll report back as soon as I know if it worked. I plan to do the mains now. John RV6A O-320 Hartzel 425hrs ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 09:03:38 PM PST US From: "Matt Johnson" Subject: RV-List: Life Insurance... (not processed: message from valid local sender) 2.02 SUBJ_LIFE_INSURANCE Subject includes "life insurance" --> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Johnson" Just curious, what Life Insurance companies are the "kindest" on their rates to pilots? - Matt ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 09:15:52 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Life Insurance... (not processed: message from valid local sender) 2.02 SUBJ_LIFE_INSURANCE Subject includes "life insurance" From: "Jeffery J. Morgan" --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeffery J. Morgan" Prudential has been good to me. American express and several others wouldn't take me without huge premiums, but Prudential was fair and better priced by far than others. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Johnson Subject: RV-List: Life Insurance... (not processed: message from valid local sender) 2.02 SUBJ_LIFE_INSURANCE Subject includes "life insurance" --> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Johnson" Just curious, what Life Insurance companies are the "kindest" on their rates to pilots? - Matt