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1. 05:07 AM - Misc RV stuff for sale.. (Bob)
2. 05:34 AM - Transition training (Steve Struyk)
3. 05:36 AM - 7A Project For Sale (Trainnut01@aol.com)
4. 06:03 AM - Re: 7A Project For Sale (Ron Lee)
5. 06:38 AM - Re: Misc RV stuff for sale.. (Charlie England)
6. 08:42 AM - Re: Misc RV stuff for sale.. (JAMES BOWEN)
7. 09:17 AM - Re: Misc RV stuff for sale.. (J D Newsum)
8. 09:18 AM - Will buy imperfect RV4 canopy (Troy Hartman)
9. 09:30 AM - Re: 7A Project For Sale (Dan Morrow)
10. 12:09 PM - Re: 7A Project For Sale (Bob Collins)
11. 02:31 PM - (Mark Rose)
12. 03:14 PM - Re: (RAS)
13. 03:20 PM - Re: (HCRV6@aol.com)
14. 03:45 PM - Re: (Darrell Reiley)
15. 04:28 PM - Re: (LarryRobertHelming)
16. 04:53 PM - (no subject) (FlyinJon@aol.com)
17. 04:57 PM - Re: 7A Project For Sale (Oliver Washburn)
18. 05:08 PM - Re: (Kyle Boatright)
19. 05:30 PM - Re: Misc RV stuff for sale.. (Steven DiNieri)
20. 05:30 PM - Re: (Ed Holyoke)
21. 06:19 PM - Re: (dick martin)
22. 07:14 PM - Re: (Jeff Dowling)
23. 08:03 PM - Wing Skin Bevel Revisited (Joe Larson)
24. 08:21 PM - Concrete tie down anchor solution (Brian Denk)
25. 08:33 PM - Re: Concrete tie down anchor solution (Vanremog@aol.com)
26. 11:19 PM - Re: 7A Project For Sale (Paul Besing)
27. 11:38 PM - Re: 7A Project For Sale (Rob Prior (rv7))
28. 11:52 PM - Re: Wing Skin Bevel Revisited (Jim Oke)
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Subject: | Misc RV stuff for sale.. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob" <rpgross@bellsouth.net>
Hi all,
Need to clean out the hanger and get rid of this stuff...
2 each Matronics Governor III new in box $30 each
2 1/4" g meter. Mint cond $125
AV-MIX engine leaning device. TSO'd for many certified aircraft new cond
$120
Terra 760 Comm, yellow tagged $400
Vans RV-6 electric flap conversion kit New $500 from vans, $250
Vans wood stick grip with coolie hat, new $50
Gretz aero electric trim conversion cable kit for RV-6, new $40
Coming soon , an almost new Christen 801 inverted oil system. Used .9 hours
total. includes all the expensive fittings/hoses. $700
Wanted Dynon aor BMA G3 unit.
Warmest Regards,
Bob
For the latest F1 Rocket/Synthetic Vision progress, click here...
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Subject: | Transition training |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Struyk" <rv8striker@hotmail.com>
Anybody know where my son and I can get some RV tail wheel transition training?
We're both current in tail draggers but need, for insurance purposes, some RV
time. I've sent out some feelers to those who advertise their services but have
not received a response.
We live in the St. Louis, MO area, but are willing to travel, (say 5 hr. drive
time) to get the training. Any RV (tail wheel) will do, just need to make the
insurance folks, and ourselves, happy and comfortable.
Please reply off list.
Do not archive.
Steve & Jeff Struyk
St. Charles, MO
RV-8, N842S
Getting close
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Subject: | 7A Project For Sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: Trainnut01@aol.com
My doctor, (who is a ME but not my ME) has suggested that if I wish to
continue flying I should be thinking LSA not RV7A. If that should prove to be
true, and I'll know next month, how do you sell an incomplete project? How is
an
incomplete project valued?
What are the pitfalls? I would appreciate any advice.
Carroll Jernigan
RV7A Finishing kit just started.
trainnut01@aol.com
Lenoir City TN
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: 7A Project For Sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
Sounds like you are close to being finished. I have no proof but
will assert that a flying 7A is worth far more than a project. If you
are close I would suggest completing it and find someone to fly off
the hours then sell it.
Ron Lee
>My doctor, (who is a ME but not my ME) has suggested that if I wish to
>continue flying I should be thinking LSA not RV7A. If that should prove to
>be
>true, and I'll know next month, how do you sell an incomplete project?
>How is an
>incomplete project valued?
>What are the pitfalls? I would appreciate any advice.
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Subject: | Re: Misc RV stuff for sale.. |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Bob wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob" <rpgross@bellsouth.net>
>
>Hi all,
>
>Need to clean out the hanger and get rid of this stuff...
>
>2 each Matronics Governor III new in box $30 each
>
>2 1/4" g meter. Mint cond $125
>
>AV-MIX engine leaning device. TSO'd for many certified aircraft new cond
>$120
>
>Terra 760 Comm, yellow tagged $400
>
>Vans RV-6 electric flap conversion kit New $500 from vans, $250
>
>Vans wood stick grip with coolie hat, new $50
>
>Gretz aero electric trim conversion cable kit for RV-6, new $40
>
>
>Coming soon , an almost new Christen 801 inverted oil system. Used .9 hours
>total. includes all the expensive fittings/hoses. $700
>
>
>Wanted Dynon aor BMA G3 unit.
>
>
>Warmest Regards,
>
>Bob
>
I'll take the g meter, & will let you know if there's anything else.
Charlie
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Subject: | Misc RV stuff for sale.. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JAMES BOWEN" <jabowenjr@hotmail.com>
I'd buy the G meter if it's available. Thanks,
Jim Bowen
>From: "Bob" <rpgross@bellsouth.net>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <RV-List@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Misc RV stuff for sale..
>Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 08:03:04 -0400
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob" <rpgross@bellsouth.net>
>
>Hi all,
>
>Need to clean out the hanger and get rid of this stuff...
>
>2 each Matronics Governor III new in box $30 each
>
>2 1/4" g meter. Mint cond $125
>
>AV-MIX engine leaning device. TSO'd for many certified aircraft new cond
>$120
>
>Terra 760 Comm, yellow tagged $400
>
>Vans RV-6 electric flap conversion kit New $500 from vans, $250
>
>Vans wood stick grip with coolie hat, new $50
>
>Gretz aero electric trim conversion cable kit for RV-6, new $40
>
>
>Coming soon , an almost new Christen 801 inverted oil system. Used .9 hours
>total. includes all the expensive fittings/hoses. $700
>
>
>Wanted Dynon aor BMA G3 unit.
>
>
>Warmest Regards,
>
>Bob
>For the latest F1 Rocket/Synthetic Vision progress, click here...
>www.F1-RocketBoy.com <http://www.f1-rocketboy.com/>
>
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>intended
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>
>
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Subject: | Misc RV stuff for sale.. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "J D Newsum" <jnewsum1@msn.com>
Bob,
I'll take the Gretz Trim conversion kit if still available. Contact me off
line at email address below.
Do Not Archive
JD Newsum
jnewsum1@msn.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bob
Subject: RV-List: Misc RV stuff for sale..
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob" <rpgross@bellsouth.net>
Hi all,
Need to clean out the hanger and get rid of this stuff...
2 each Matronics Governor III new in box $30 each
2 1/4" g meter. Mint cond $125
AV-MIX engine leaning device. TSO'd for many certified aircraft new cond
$120
Terra 760 Comm, yellow tagged $400
Vans RV-6 electric flap conversion kit New $500 from vans, $250
Vans wood stick grip with coolie hat, new $50
Gretz aero electric trim conversion cable kit for RV-6, new $40
Coming soon , an almost new Christen 801 inverted oil system. Used .9 hours
total. includes all the expensive fittings/hoses. $700
Wanted Dynon aor BMA G3 unit.
Warmest Regards,
Bob
For the latest F1 Rocket/Synthetic Vision progress, click here...
www.F1-RocketBoy.com <http://www.f1-rocketboy.com/>
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Subject: | Will buy imperfect RV4 canopy |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Troy Hartman" <birdtrick@hotmail.com>
I am looking for a used RV4 canopy that doesn't need to be in perfect shape.
If you messed yours up cutting it, let me know!
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Subject: | Re: 7A Project For Sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Morrow" <DanFM01@butter.toast.net>
If you are in danger of not passing your next medical, consider this. As I
understand it, you can fly under LSA without a medical certificate.
However if you have failed a medical, you cannot fly LSA until you get the
medical cleared. You could check with the EAA to see if this is correct.
It's bizarre, but apparently if you skip your next medical exam, you can
fly LSA no matter what your medical condition is if you think it is safe to
do so.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Trainnut01@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: 7A Project For Sale
> --> RV-List message posted by: Trainnut01@aol.com
>
> My doctor, (who is a ME but not my ME) has suggested that if I wish to
> continue flying I should be thinking LSA not RV7A. If that should prove to
> be
> true, and I'll know next month, how do you sell an incomplete project? How
> is an
> incomplete project valued?
> What are the pitfalls? I would appreciate any advice.
>
> Carroll Jernigan
> RV7A Finishing kit just started.
> trainnut01@aol.com
> Lenoir City TN
>
> do not archive
>
>
> --
>
>
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Subject: | 7A Project For Sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net>
I believe if you know of a medical condition that would be disqualifying,
you can't fly anywhere under any circumstances as PIC. However, you can
still fly.
Anyway, the whole LSA thing just blows me away. To me it's the aviation
equivalent of "don't ask-don't tell"
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Morrow
Subject: Re: RV-List: 7A Project For Sale
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Morrow" <DanFM01@butter.toast.net>
If you are in danger of not passing your next medical, consider this. As I
understand it, you can fly under LSA without a medical certificate.
However if you have failed a medical, you cannot fly LSA until you get the
medical cleared. You could check with the EAA to see if this is correct.
It's bizarre, but apparently if you skip your next medical exam, you can
fly LSA no matter what your medical condition is if you think it is safe to
do so.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Trainnut01@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: 7A Project For Sale
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Mark Rose" <av8er2@mcleodusa.net>
Well after 2 weeks short of three years my 8A took to the sky's on 9/2/05, flew
staight and true just as they said it would. Need to fix high oil temps though.
I have an IO360 with stock seven row cooler, I am wondering if a 9 row would
be better. OAT was not that high 78, but oil was still 235 to 240 in cruise.
Cooler is mounted on baffles, would it be better on the firewall? Second
flight OAT was 60 and oil was 205 to 225, worried about next summer, so I would
like to get them down now, before some damage occurs. Thanks to anyone with
some ideas. Mark Rose N137MR.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "RAS" <deruiteraircraftservices@btinternet.com>
Hi,
Congrats first of all. Is this a new engine? I found on the RV7 with FF kit
and baffle mounted cooler with new O-360 taht the temp was a tad high on teh
first flight. Kept ground running down on subsequent flights and the temp
eventually stabilised around 170F.
Marcel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Rose" <av8er2@mcleodusa.net>
Subject: RV-List:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Mark Rose" <av8er2@mcleodusa.net>
>
> Well after 2 weeks short of three years my 8A took to the sky's on 9/2/05,
> flew staight and true just as they said it would. Need to fix high oil
> temps though. I have an IO360 with stock seven row cooler, I am wondering
> if a 9 row would be better. OAT was not that high 78, but oil was still
> 235 to 240 in cruise. Cooler is mounted on baffles, would it be better on
> the firewall? Second flight OAT was 60 and oil was 205 to 225, worried
> about next summer, so I would like to get them down now, before some
> damage occurs. Thanks to anyone with some ideas. Mark Rose N137MR.
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
In a message dated 9/5/2005 2:33:02 PM Pacific Standard Time,
av8er2@mcleodusa.net writes:
Well after 2 weeks short of three years my 8A took to the sky's on 9/2/05,
flew staight and true just as they said it would. Need to fix high oil temps
though. I have an IO360 with stock seven row cooler, I am wondering if a 9
row would be better. OAT was not that high 78, but oil was still 235 to 240
in cruise. Cooler is mounted on baffles, would it be better on the firewall?
Second flight OAT was 60 and oil was 205 to 225, worried about next summer,
so I would like to get them down now, before
First, congratulations on a successful first flight. FWIW I have a seven
row Aero Classic cooler mounted on the left rear baffle of my 0-360 (RV-6) and
the problem I have is getting the oil temp up. The highest I get with OAT in
the 90 F range is low 180 degrees F. With lower OAT I have to install a
plate on the back of the cooler to get the temp into the 160 F. range. All this
is to say that a seven row cooler should be adequate if mounted on the rear
baffle and the baffles are well sealed. Mounting the cooler on the firewall
with presumably 3" SCAT tubing to get the air to it from the baffle will most
likely make your problem worse. Do make sure that you are using # 8 hoses
and keep them as short as possible
Oh yeah, I have tested my oil temp probe in boiling water and it is
accurate.
Harry Crosby
RV-6 N16CX, 125 hours
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--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
Mark,
The Stewart Warner replacement for the Van's stock cooler has helped many with
temp issues. Remember if you engine is New or Reman you will experience higher
temps during your break in. Congratulations on the first flight! I would fly
on and put a little more time on the engine. Flight early when it's cool, you'll
be fine.
Darrell
Mark Rose <av8er2@mcleodusa.net> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mark Rose"
Well after 2 weeks short of three years my 8A took to the sky's on 9/2/05, flew
staight and true just as they said it would. Need to fix high oil temps though.
I have an IO360 with stock seven row cooler, I am wondering if a 9 row would
be better. OAT was not that high 78, but oil was still 235 to 240 in cruise.
Cooler is mounted on baffles, would it be better on the firewall? Second flight
OAT was 60 and oil was 205 to 225, worried about next summer, so I would like
to get them down now, before some damage occurs. Thanks to anyone with some
ideas. Mark Rose N137MR.
---------------------------------
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--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
To the original problem of 240 degree high oil temps, consider the problem
possibly being in the vernatherm valve. Sounds like it could be not
functioning to let oil circulate through the oil cooler. It can be adjusted
to let oil flow -- Search the archives on how to do this. It can be tested
for accuracy. It should open around 180-190 degrees
Is the oil cooler known not to be blocked in any way (also hoses and end
fittings) to keep oil from moving through it? I agree with Harry that
moving the cooler to the firewall will not improve the cooling function. I
suspect the problem will not be solved by adding two rows to the cooler with
the temps you are showing but it would help it some no doubt if oil is
flowing. Are you sure your oil temp gauge is right by testing? Are your
CHTs doing ok? If not that could mean you might look closely at the baffle
and seals for air leaks.
Indiana Larry, RV7 Tip Up Flying 60 Hours
----- Original Message -----
From: <HCRV6@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List:
> --> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
>
>
> In a message dated 9/5/2005 2:33:02 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> av8er2@mcleodusa.net writes:
>
> Well after 2 weeks short of three years my 8A took to the sky's on
> 9/2/05,
> flew staight and true just as they said it would. Need to fix high oil
> temps
> though. I have an IO360 with stock seven row cooler, I am wondering if a
> 9
> row would be better. OAT was not that high 78, but oil was still 235 to
> 240
> in cruise. Cooler is mounted on baffles, would it be better on the
> firewall?
> Second flight OAT was 60 and oil was 205 to 225, worried about next
> summer,
> so I would like to get them down now, before
>
>
> First, congratulations on a successful first flight. FWIW I have a seven
> row Aero Classic cooler mounted on the left rear baffle of my 0-360 (RV-6)
> and
> the problem I have is getting the oil temp up. The highest I get with
> OAT in
> the 90 F range is low 180 degrees F. With lower OAT I have to install a
> plate on the back of the cooler to get the temp into the 160 F. range.
> All this
> is to say that a seven row cooler should be adequate if mounted on the
> rear
> baffle and the baffles are well sealed. Mounting the cooler on the
> firewall
> with presumably 3" SCAT tubing to get the air to it from the baffle will
> most
> likely make your problem worse. Do make sure that you are using # 8
> hoses
> and keep them as short as possible
>
> Oh yeah, I have tested my oil temp probe in boiling water and it is
> accurate.
>
> Harry Crosby
> RV-6 N16CX, 125 hours
>
>
>
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paul.schaetzel@lmco.com, ron@dynonavionics.com, fletch@bak.rr.com,
patti@oregontrail.net, STEVE65GT@aol.com
--> RV-List message posted by: FlyinJon@aol.com
email address change. John Lauer, flyinjon@cox.net
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Subject: | Re: 7A Project For Sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Oliver Washburn" <ollie6a@earthlink.net>
SO
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: RV-List: 7A Project For Sale
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net>
>
> I believe if you know of a medical condition that would be disqualifying,
> you can't fly anywhere under any circumstances as PIC. However, you can
> still fly.
>
> Anyway, the whole LSA thing just blows me away. To me it's the aviation
> equivalent of "don't ask-don't tell"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Morrow
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: 7A Project For Sale
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Morrow" <DanFM01@butter.toast.net>
>
> If you are in danger of not passing your next medical, consider this. As
> I
> understand it, you can fly under LSA without a medical certificate.
> However if you have failed a medical, you cannot fly LSA until you get
> the
> medical cleared. You could check with the EAA to see if this is correct.
> It's bizarre, but apparently if you skip your next medical exam, you can
> fly LSA no matter what your medical condition is if you think it is safe
> to
> do so.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Trainnut01@aol.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: 7A Project For Sale
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" <kboatright1@comcast.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
>
> To the original problem of 240 degree high oil temps, consider the problem
> possibly being in the vernatherm valve. Sounds like it could be not
> functioning to let oil circulate through the oil cooler. It can be
> adjusted
> to let oil flow -- Search the archives on how to do this. It can be
> tested
> for accuracy. It should open around 180-190 degrees
>
> Is the oil cooler known not to be blocked in any way (also hoses and end
> fittings) to keep oil from moving through it? I agree with Harry that
> moving the cooler to the firewall will not improve the cooling function.
> I
> suspect the problem will not be solved by adding two rows to the cooler
> with
> the temps you are showing but it would help it some no doubt if oil is
> flowing. Are you sure your oil temp gauge is right by testing? Are your
> CHTs doing ok? If not that could mean you might look closely at the
> baffle
> and seals for air leaks.
>
> Indiana Larry, RV7 Tip Up Flying 60 Hours
>
High temperatures are often a problem with new engines. On mine, the
temperatures ran as high as 220F in cruise for the first 100 hours. In the
end, the solution was three or fourfold...
1) Engine break-in. Probably good for10+ degrees.
2) Switched away from the original (now corrected) version of Positech's oil
cooler. Probably good for another 5 degrees.
3) Enlarged the oil cooler hole in my baffles to probably 2x its original
size. Good for another 15 degrees.
4) Added a cool collar with a shroud. Essentially a heat sink around the oil
filter. Marginal improvement.
In addition, I checked the vernatherm (no problem there), checked the hoses
and cooler for obstructions, verified the oil temp sender and gauge's
accuracy, etc. No problems there either.
One thing I will ask is if anyone on the list has personally experienced a
defective vernatherm? This is an often suggested item when people have oil
temperature problems, but I'm not aware of any first person stories where
someone had one that went bad.
KB
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Subject: | Misc RV stuff for sale.. |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steven DiNieri" <capsteve@adelphia.net>
Hi,bob I'll take the av-mix and a governer III, contact me for payment
preference
Steve dinieri
capsteve@adelphia.net
716.579.5790
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Subject: RV-List: Misc RV stuff for sale..
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob" <rpgross@bellsouth.net>
Hi all,
Need to clean out the hanger and get rid of this stuff...
2 each Matronics Governor III new in box $30 each
2 1/4" g meter. Mint cond $125
AV-MIX engine leaning device. TSO'd for many certified aircraft new cond
$120
Terra 760 Comm, yellow tagged $400
Vans RV-6 electric flap conversion kit New $500 from vans, $250
Vans wood stick grip with coolie hat, new $50
Gretz aero electric trim conversion cable kit for RV-6, new $40
Coming soon , an almost new Christen 801 inverted oil system. Used .9 hours
total. includes all the expensive fittings/hoses. $700
Wanted Dynon aor BMA G3 unit.
Warmest Regards,
Bob
For the latest F1 Rocket/Synthetic Vision progress, click here...
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" <bicyclop@pacbell.net>
You said IO-360. Is that the angle valve engine? If so, those engines
have little nozzles that spray oil on the underside of the pistons
adding to oil temp. If that is part of the cause, extra cooler capacity
may well help.
Good luck,
Ed Holyoke
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Rose
Subject: RV-List:
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mark Rose" <av8er2@mcleodusa.net>
Well after 2 weeks short of three years my 8A took to the sky's on
9/2/05, flew staight and true just as they said it would. Need to fix
high oil temps though. I have an IO360 with stock seven row cooler, I
am wondering if a 9 row would be better. OAT was not that high 78, but
oil was still 235 to 240 in cruise. Cooler is mounted on baffles, would
it be better on the firewall? Second flight OAT was 60 and oil was 205
to 225, worried about next summer, so I would like to get them down now,
before some damage occurs. Thanks to anyone with some ideas. Mark
Rose N137MR.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "dick martin" <martin@gbonline.com>
Dear Mark,
Use a 9 or 10 row Niagara cooler mounted at a 25 degree tilt down on the
baffle behind cyl #4. I have ll80 hours with this set up , 946 with a IO
360 (10-1) pistons etc and 240 hours with my new IO 390 Lyc. No oil temp
problems in any temperature, including the Air Venture races using 100 %
power for over 2 hours at 95 degree outside temps. Note, when making the
mounting bracket to tilt the cooler use 040 4130. I tried aluminum first
and it kept on cracking. Good luck.
Dick Martin
N233M RV8
the fast one
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From: "Mark Rose" <av8er2@mcleodusa.net>
Subject: RV-List:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Mark Rose" <av8er2@mcleodusa.net>
>
> Well after 2 weeks short of three years my 8A took to the sky's on 9/2/05,
> flew staight and true just as they said it would. Need to fix high oil
> temps though. I have an IO360 with stock seven row cooler, I am wondering
> if a 9 row would be better. OAT was not that high 78, but oil was still
> 235 to 240 in cruise. Cooler is mounted on baffles, would it be better on
> the firewall? Second flight OAT was 60 and oil was 205 to 225, worried
> about next summer, so I would like to get them down now, before some
> damage occurs. Thanks to anyone with some ideas. Mark Rose N137MR.
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
I spent countless of hours working on getting my oil temps in check on my
io360. I switched my baffle material to the blue silicone and spent a lot
of time making absolutely certain there were NO leaks. I also switched to a
10 row cooler on the baffle. I wouldnt put it on the firewall. Thats where
mine was originally. You have to go step by step and keep eliminating
possible causes. You'll get it eventually.
Shemp/Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
235 hours
Chicago/Louisville
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From: "Mark Rose" <av8er2@mcleodusa.net>
Subject: RV-List:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Mark Rose" <av8er2@mcleodusa.net>
>
> Well after 2 weeks short of three years my 8A took to the sky's on 9/2/05,
> flew staight and true just as they said it would. Need to fix high oil
> temps though. I have an IO360 with stock seven row cooler, I am wondering
> if a 9 row would be better. OAT was not that high 78, but oil was still
> 235 to 240 in cruise. Cooler is mounted on baffles, would it be better on
> the firewall? Second flight OAT was 60 and oil was 205 to 225, worried
> about next summer, so I would like to get them down now, before some
> damage occurs. Thanks to anyone with some ideas. Mark Rose N137MR.
>
>
>
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Subject: | Wing Skin Bevel Revisited |
--> RV-List message posted by: Joe Larson <jpl@showpage.org>
I'm doing final prep on my top wing skins prior to riveting. The
directions from Van's tell me to bevel the skins to create a somewhat
smoother transition. I can use a file and sanding block to do it that
way.
But I seem to recall there were alternative methods that some folks
have suggested -- instead of beveling. I haven't been able to find the
references. Am I just confused?
-Joe
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Subject: | Concrete tie down anchor solution |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
Listers,
You may recall I asked for some input on how to set some tie down anchors
into new concrete at my new airpark house.
Well, here it is. I used plated eyehooks from Home Depot, with fender
washers nutted on the shanks. These were then popped into emptied plastic
fruit cups to serve as a male mold for the recess around the rings. The
builder just pressed these into place after floating the concrete. Worked
great.
Patent pending. Heh.
Brian Denk
RV8 N94BD
RV10 '51
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Subject: | Re: Concrete tie down anchor solution |
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 9/5/2005 8:23:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
akroguy@hotmail.com writes:
I used plated eyehooks from Home Depot, with fender
washers nutted on the shanks. These were then popped into emptied plastic
fruit cups to serve as a male mold for the recess around the rings. The
builder just pressed these into place after floating the concrete. Worked
great.
===============================
Brian-
Did you go with stainless steel, so they will last forever?
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 761hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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Subject: | 7A Project For Sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <paul@kitlog.com>
You are correct. Don't let your medical get denied, or you won't get a
Sport Pilot Certificate. Just let it lapse. All you need for the sport
pilot cert is a current driver's license! (Of course many other
requirement, but as far as a medical is concerned.)
Paul Besing
RV-6A Sold
Kitlog Builder's Software
www.kitlog.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dan Morrow
Subject: Re: RV-List: 7A Project For Sale
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Morrow" <DanFM01@butter.toast.net>
If you are in danger of not passing your next medical, consider this. As I
understand it, you can fly under LSA without a medical certificate.
However if you have failed a medical, you cannot fly LSA until you get the
medical cleared. You could check with the EAA to see if this is correct.
It's bizarre, but apparently if you skip your next medical exam, you can
fly LSA no matter what your medical condition is if you think it is safe to
do so.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Trainnut01@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: 7A Project For Sale
> --> RV-List message posted by: Trainnut01@aol.com
>
> My doctor, (who is a ME but not my ME) has suggested that if I wish to
> continue flying I should be thinking LSA not RV7A. If that should prove to
> be
> true, and I'll know next month, how do you sell an incomplete project? How
> is an
> incomplete project valued?
> What are the pitfalls? I would appreciate any advice.
>
> Carroll Jernigan
> RV7A Finishing kit just started.
> trainnut01@aol.com
> Lenoir City TN
>
> do not archive
>
>
> --
>
>
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Subject: | 7A Project For Sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Rob Prior (rv7)" <rv7@b4.ca>
On 23:17:33 2005-09-05 "Paul Besing" <paul@kitlog.com> wrote:
> You are correct. Don't let your medical get denied, or you won't get
> a Sport Pilot Certificate. Just let it lapse. All you need for the
> sport pilot cert is a current driver's license! (Of course many other
> requirement, but as far as a medical is concerned.)
Once you've got a Private Pilot's License, why would you ever let it lapse
and replace it with a Sport Pilot Permit? The only reason I can think of
that someone would do this is because they were in danger of not passing
their medical.
I find it hard to believe that the FAA won't be watching for just this kind
of "workaround" to failing a medical, or to avoid failing a medical.
Is there some other legitimate reason that i'm missing for wanting to
demote yourself to Sport Pilot from Private Pilot? It seems like a losing
proposition to me.
-Rob
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Subject: | Wing Skin Bevel Revisited |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jim Oke <wjoke@shaw.ca>
Joe;
A common alternative to "bevelling" the skins is to cut a small rectangle in
the underlying skin at the forward edge where it rests on the spar. Scribe a
line when the top skin rests on the underlying skins and measure back abt
1" and round the corner for stress relief. This allows the top skin to butt
against the underlying skin to avoid a bulge at the spar. The top skin then
smoothly comes to lie on top of the other skin and the usual overlap joint
results further aft.
A similar arrangement can be done at the aft spar to get a butt joint vice a
lapped joint where the top skin hangs over the flap.
I'll attach a photo showing a trimmed inner skin - sorry do not have a good
final one.
This was on an RV-6A slow build, BTW.
Cheers, Jim Oke
Wpg., MB
RV-6A
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Joe Larson
> Sent: September 5, 2005 10:01 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Wing Skin Bevel Revisited
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Joe Larson <jpl@showpage.org>
>
> I'm doing final prep on my top wing skins prior to riveting.
> The directions from Van's tell me to bevel the skins to
> create a somewhat smoother transition. I can use a file and
> sanding block to do it that way.
>
> But I seem to recall there were alternative methods that some
> folks have suggested -- instead of beveling. I haven't been
> able to find the references. Am I just confused?
>
> -Joe
>
>
> Photoshare, and much much more:
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