Today's Message Index:
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1. 04:44 AM - Re: Airflow Performance Fuel Adjustments (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
2. 04:44 AM - Re: Katrina assistance near PDK (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
3. 04:55 AM - Re: Garmin 396 Problems (Alex Peterson)
4. 05:12 AM - Re: Airflow Performance Fuel Adjustments (Alex Peterson)
5. 05:43 AM - Thoughts on Shipping? (alan@reichertech.com)
6. 06:03 AM - Re: Thoughts on Shipping? (DOUGPFLYRV@AOL.COM)
7. 06:10 AM - Re: Thoughts on Shipping? (Bill and Tami Britton)
8. 06:14 AM - Re: Re:G Meter (Darrell Reiley)
9. 06:32 AM - Re: Katrina assistance near PDK (J.T. Helms)
10. 06:37 AM - FW: Katrina assistance near PDK (J.T. Helms)
11. 06:56 AM - Re: Thoughts on Shipping? (Glaeser, Dennis A)
12. 07:15 AM - Re: Thoughts on Shipping? (Steve Struyk)
13. 09:46 AM - Re: Re:G Meter (Robin Marks)
14. 01:11 PM - Re: Prop ballancing article (reprint) ()
15. 01:11 PM - Re: EFIS Lite ()
16. 01:11 PM - Re: Dyaton experimental race, July 24th ()
17. 01:11 PM - Re: Spark Plugs for EI ...was Engine problems ()
18. 01:11 PM - Re: Ti tie downs ()
19. 01:19 PM - Re: Vetterman exhaust/RV4 (Doug Weiler)
20. 01:53 PM - Re: Spark Plugs for EI ...was Engine problems (Dan Checkoway)
21. 02:27 PM - Re: Spark Plugs for EI ...was Engine problems (Scott Bilinski)
22. 02:58 PM - Re: Spark Plugs for EI ...was Engine problems (Darrell Reiley)
23. 03:26 PM - Re: Spark Plugs for EI ...was Engine problems (Wentz, Don)
24. 05:38 PM - Re: 7A Project For Sale (bertrv6@highstream.net)
25. 05:50 PM - Re: EFIS Lite (LarryRobertHelming)
26. 07:16 PM - Re: Thoughts on Shipping? (dick martin)
27. 10:24 PM - Re: EFIS Lite (David Leonard)
28. 10:46 PM - Elevator misalignment (DAVID REEL)
29. 10:54 PM - Re: Elevator misalignment (Tim Bryan)
30. 11:25 PM - Re: Elevator misalignment (Dan Checkoway)
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| Subject: | Airflow Performance Fuel Adjustments |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Ditto the other comments.
I went 2 flats the other day and it did wonders.
Mike
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed OConnor
Subject: RV-List: Airflow Performance Fuel Adjustments
--> RV-List message posted by: Ed OConnor <Edwardoconnor@mac.com>
I just ran my XP 360 for the first time and it idled extremely rich.
Black smoke, and soot on exhaust and it would idle much smoother after
leaning about half way back. I called Performance and they said to
shorten the linkage on the throttle arm to the fuel metering arm and I
did this, (two turns) and it seemed to make it worse on the second
run. Anybody out there have any experience adjusting the air flow
performance idle mixture and if so do you have a good procedure to
follow. Performance said I might have an intake leak but I don't think
that is the case. RV-8/XP 360/Vertical updraft FM 200 Airflow
Performance controller
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| Subject: | Katrina assistance near PDK |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Good post JT.
I flew one of these missions yesterday in my RV. I flew to a remote town
in Mississippi called Waynesboro. They are getting no relief help except
for 3 flights a day of small airplanes from Angel Flight like mine. They
were very happy to see me. I had a plane full of 50 air mattresses,
soap, a porta-toilett, & tarps. I don't carry a lot, but for them it was
a truck load. They have hundreds sleeping on the floor of the church
there and when they saw me pulling out air mattresses, they broke out in
tears. They were literally overwhelmed that someone would fly them air
mattresses from Atlanta.
At Peachtree Dekalb airport, I was in a line of planes waiting to get
loaded. A well run assembly line. While your loaded, your given your
flight plan to where you are going. You don't know until the last second
before you launch. They have a hanger full of stuff that is making its
way to small towns in La. And Ms. They flew 115 missions yesterday out
of Peachtree Dekalb. WOW!
Best,
Mike
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of J.T. Helms
Subject: RV-List: Katrina assistance near PDK
--> RV-List message posted by: "J.T. Helms" <jhelms@i1.net>
An acquaintence thru another group just posted this on another forum.
Thought some of you near PDK might be able/interested in helping. They
need
stuff do send, pilots/planes, help on ground loading flights, etc.
Here's
the info:
1. Angel Flight of Georgia (AFG) located PDK, has a desperate need for
pilots, planes and ground volunteers.
2. I have volunteered to become the point of contact (POC)for COPA here
at
KPDK. My name is Doug Snyder cell 404-788-9009, if you don't get me,
leave a
VM, I will get back to you. email icsdoug@bellsouth.net I will be
continuing
this coordination on the road via phone, email.
3. Minimum pilot qualification levels are as follows:
A. Private Pilot w/IFR (due to TFR's), min 250 hours total time.
B. Application <http://www.angelflight-ga.org/pilotappssl.htm>
completed
and faxed into the number posted with attached documentation
(requirements
posted on website).
C. We are trying to develop a quick pilot orientation briefing to allow
patient transport, as these flights still have the same urgent need.
4. You can fly to PDK, land, go into the AF office (Main Building, 2nd
Floor) and fill out the required paperwork and be in the air within an
hour.
It would be best to complete the documentation prior to arrival. There
is a
mass aircrew brief at 1030EDT 7SEP05 at the AF office, missions will be
distributed following the brief.
D. AFG has developed a collection point for needed supplies and
distributing
them from PDK Mercury Hangar.
E. Mercury ( and other participating FBO's) are offering a discount on
fuel
to AFG pilots.
F. Most missions are supplies, some personnel transport. There is
security
and a POC at each location.
G. We are not giving the destination locations as the need changes so
quickly. The average flight distance is 300 miles one way from PDK. Most
locations are accessible by air only, at this time. VFR only!
F. Fuel is available at some destinations, some not, coordination will
be
made before departure. The delivery flight must land and takeoff before
darkness, as there is no power.
G. I dont' have much time to answer general questions, beyond those
listed
here.
H. Lastly, If you want to relocate to PDK and fly from here. I have room
for
3-5 people at my house and one small vehicle. First come first served.
JT
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| Subject: | Garmin 396 Problems |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Larry Pardue"
> <n5lp@warpdriveonline.com>
>
> Howdy,
>
> For anyone who has followed my 396 problems.
>
> As of about 7:30 PM today I am again receiving weather and
> audio data on my unit.
>
> The XM supervisor I spoke with this afternoon reactivated me
> after I had been deactivated several days ago for
> undetermined reasons. The literature says the activation
> should become effective in a few minutes, but in this case it
> took about 4 hours. According to the the XM representative I
> telephoned, that is because of computer problems.
>
> It has been disturbing, but Garmin, at least, has been very
> responsive, XM has apologized a lot. I hope for no further problems.
>
> Larry Pardue
> Carlsbad, NM
>
> RV-6 N441LP Flying
> http://n5lp.net
Larry, I have been running the XM weather on my Anywhere Map system for a
year now, and have had to re-initialize the system once. AnywhereMap has a
good set of instructions for this worth printing and keeping in the plane.
I'm sure the pressure is on for XM to fix this most annoying problem.
Alex Peterson
RV6-A N66AP 663 hours
Maple Grove, MN
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| Subject: | Airflow Performance Fuel Adjustments |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Airflow Performance Fuel Adjustments
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
> --> <mstewart@iss.net>
>
> Ditto the other comments.
> I went 2 flats the other day and it did wonders.
> Mike
> Do not archive
>
I have followed this thread a bit, and will add that in climates with
extreme temperature differences winter to summer, the adjustment is quite
touchy. I have found that the driving factor is the initial idle when cold
starting. It is helpful to know that with FI, the idle fuel flow is only a
function of throttle position, mixture position and idle mixture adjustment
(it is not sensing the amount of air flowing through the closed throttle).
In other words, when the OAT is warm, there is much less air going into the
engine than when it is cold, for the same throttle position and RPM. For
example, when it is 0F vs 95F, the ratio is 1.2:1.0, barometric pressure
being the same. Now, back to the cold idle (I never start my plane when the
engine is below 45F, BTW). The optimum adjustment for me is so that when
starting the engine with an OAT of around 0F, it idles nicely with the
mixture full rich. What this means, however, is that in the summer I need
to pull the mixture out an inch or so after startup to keep it from loping.
Also, I continue to be amazed that people are operating equipment, such as
Airflow Performance FI, for example, without reading the operator's manual.
It is very detailed and specific as to how to adjust the idle mixture. Not
knowing what is in the manual can kill you in this business.
Alex Peterson
RV6-A N66AP 663 hours
Maple Grove, MN
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| Subject: | Thoughts on Shipping? |
--> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com
What is the current thought on shipping kits from Van's? I'm getting
ready to order my -8 wing kit (slow-build).
Looking through the archives, the latest discussion I see is December
2004. The options appear to be (a) let Van's arrange it with their
discount, or (b) use FreightQuote to arrange shipping and let Barb know
about it.
I want delivery to my driveway, so that may be a factor.
- Alan
RV-8 N927AR (reserved)
Final Assembly of Horizontal/Vertical Stabilizers
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| Subject: | Re: Thoughts on Shipping? |
--> RV-List message posted by: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com
I used Partain Transport. Highly recommend them. More details on Doug Reeves
site.
Doug Preston
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Thoughts on Shipping? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill and Tami Britton" <william@gbta.net>
I just received my -10 wings in the last month. They shipped via ABF and
they arrived in good shape (there was a little rash on the larger crate, but
no problems). Total shipping cost to a business in Lewis, KS (near Dodge
City) was $210. They wanted $60 more to ship it 10 miles further to my
house. If you have a business nearby that will receive it, definitely go
that route. It'll save you some bucks.
Bill Britton
----- Original Message -----
From: <alan@reichertech.com>
Subject: RV-List: Thoughts on Shipping?
> --> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com
>
>
> What is the current thought on shipping kits from Van's? I'm getting
> ready to order my -8 wing kit (slow-build).
>
> Looking through the archives, the latest discussion I see is December
> 2004. The options appear to be (a) let Van's arrange it with their
> discount, or (b) use FreightQuote to arrange shipping and let Barb know
> about it.
>
> I want delivery to my driveway, so that may be a factor.
>
> - Alan
> RV-8 N927AR (reserved)
> Final Assembly of Horizontal/Vertical Stabilizers
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
I saw that one, I was third in line... a day late.
Darrell
Oldsfolks@aol.com wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
Check on down the list under " RV stuff for sale",there was one there.
Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
Charleston,Arkansas
Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
---------------------------------
Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
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| Subject: | Katrina assistance near PDK |
--> RV-List message posted by: "J.T. Helms" <jhelms@i1.net>
I wasn't aware until you emailed me that this was up and running!!! I just
found out about it thru a contact on the COPA online forum.
That's fantastic. Are they getting enough donations to keep up with that
many flights? I hope my post on the RV forum and thru my personal contacts
in ATL will help that.
Are most of the flights just to take the supplies in? or are they also
evacuating people on the way out?
JT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stewart, Michael
(ISS Atlanta)
Subject: RE: RV-List: Katrina assistance near PDK
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
--> <mstewart@iss.net>
Good post JT.
I flew one of these missions yesterday in my RV. I flew to a remote town in
Mississippi called Waynesboro. They are getting no relief help except for 3
flights a day of small airplanes from Angel Flight like mine. They were very
happy to see me. I had a plane full of 50 air mattresses, soap, a
porta-toilett, & tarps. I don't carry a lot, but for them it was a truck
load. They have hundreds sleeping on the floor of the church there and when
they saw me pulling out air mattresses, they broke out in tears. They were
literally overwhelmed that someone would fly them air mattresses from
Atlanta.
At Peachtree Dekalb airport, I was in a line of planes waiting to get
loaded. A well run assembly line. While your loaded, your given your flight
plan to where you are going. You don't know until the last second before you
launch. They have a hanger full of stuff that is making its way to small
towns in La. And Ms. They flew 115 missions yesterday out of Peachtree
Dekalb. WOW!
Best,
Mike
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of J.T. Helms
Subject: RV-List: Katrina assistance near PDK
--> RV-List message posted by: "J.T. Helms" <jhelms@i1.net>
An acquaintence thru another group just posted this on another forum.
Thought some of you near PDK might be able/interested in helping. They need
stuff do send, pilots/planes, help on ground loading flights, etc.
Here's
the info:
1. Angel Flight of Georgia (AFG) located PDK, has a desperate need for
pilots, planes and ground volunteers.
2. I have volunteered to become the point of contact (POC)for COPA here at
KPDK. My name is Doug Snyder cell 404-788-9009, if you don't get me, leave a
VM, I will get back to you. email icsdoug@bellsouth.net I will be continuing
this coordination on the road via phone, email.
3. Minimum pilot qualification levels are as follows:
A. Private Pilot w/IFR (due to TFR's), min 250 hours total time.
B. Application <http://www.angelflight-ga.org/pilotappssl.htm>
completed
and faxed into the number posted with attached documentation (requirements
posted on website).
C. We are trying to develop a quick pilot orientation briefing to allow
patient transport, as these flights still have the same urgent need.
4. You can fly to PDK, land, go into the AF office (Main Building, 2nd
Floor) and fill out the required paperwork and be in the air within an hour.
It would be best to complete the documentation prior to arrival. There is a
mass aircrew brief at 1030EDT 7SEP05 at the AF office, missions will be
distributed following the brief.
D. AFG has developed a collection point for needed supplies and distributing
them from PDK Mercury Hangar.
E. Mercury ( and other participating FBO's) are offering a discount on fuel
to AFG pilots.
F. Most missions are supplies, some personnel transport. There is security
and a POC at each location.
G. We are not giving the destination locations as the need changes so
quickly. The average flight distance is 300 miles one way from PDK. Most
locations are accessible by air only, at this time. VFR only!
F. Fuel is available at some destinations, some not, coordination will be
made before departure. The delivery flight must land and takeoff before
darkness, as there is no power.
G. I dont' have much time to answer general questions, beyond those listed
here.
H. Lastly, If you want to relocate to PDK and fly from here. I have room for
3-5 people at my house and one small vehicle. First come first served.
JT
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| Subject: | FW: Katrina assistance near PDK |
--> RV-List message posted by: "J.T. Helms" <jhelms@i1.net>
Here is a list of suggested items to donate if you're in the ATL area. I
know they literally need everything. I hadn't thought about the fresh fruit
though. I had a friend do a mission for Angel Flight on Saturday and
suggested he take in baby stuff especially formula. The 'receiver' (an
overworked and emotionally drained volunteer) was in tears when she saw the
formula. She'd not been able to get any for the entire week.
Following items are what donations they're asking for (The delivery point is
Mercury Hangar (an FBO?) at Dekalb-Peachtree Airport (PDK) in ATL.):
1. Diapers (assorted sizes)
2. Formula
3. Paper Towels
4. Latex Gloves
5. band-aids
6. neosporin
7. advil
8. tylenol
9. children's tylenol
10. peanut butter
11. inflatable mattresses (apparently in very short supply in ATL).
12. diaper creme
13. gatorade
14. tuna
15. fruit (they're flying it in, so it won't spoil)
16. baby food
17. caladryl
18. qtips
19. gauze
20. AccuChecks w/strips
21. ultra pasteurized milk (non-refrigerated)
> ______________________________________________
> From: J.T. Helms [mailto:jhelms@i1.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 3:01 PM
> To: 'rv-list@matronics.com'
> Subject: Katrina assistance near PDK
>
> An acquaintence thru another group just posted this on another forum.
> Thought some of you near PDK might be able/interested in helping. They
> need stuff do send, pilots/planes, help on ground loading flights, etc.
> Here's the info:
> 1. Angel Flight of Georgia (AFG) located PDK, has a desperate need for
> pilots, planes and ground volunteers.
>
> 2. I have volunteered to become the point of contact (POC)for COPA here at
> KPDK. My name is Doug Snyder cell 404-788-9009, if you don't get me, leave
> a VM, I will get back to you. email icsdoug@bellsouth.net I will be
> continuing this coordination on the road via phone, email.
>
> 3. Minimum pilot qualification levels are as follows:
> A. Private Pilot w/IFR (due to TFR's), min 250 hours total time.
> B. Application <http://www.angelflight-ga.org/pilotappssl.htm> completed
> and faxed into the number posted with attached documentation (requirements
> posted on website).
> C. We are trying to develop a quick pilot orientation briefing to allow
> patient transport, as these flights still have the same urgent need.
>
> 4. You can fly to PDK, land, go into the AF office (Main Building, 2nd
> Floor) and fill out the required paperwork and be in the air within an
> hour. It would be best to complete the documentation prior to arrival.
> There is a mass aircrew brief at 1030EDT 7SEP05 at the AF office, missions
> will be distributed following the brief.
>
> D. AFG has developed a collection point for needed supplies and
> distributing them from PDK Mercury Hangar.
>
> E. Mercury ( and other participating FBO's) are offering a discount on
> fuel to AFG pilots.
>
> F. Most missions are supplies, some personnel transport. There is security
> and a POC at each location.
>
> G. We are not giving the destination locations as the need changes so
> quickly. The average flight distance is 300 miles one way from PDK. Most
> locations are accessible by air only, at this time. VFR only!
>
> F. Fuel is available at some destinations, some not, coordination will be
> made before departure. The delivery flight must land and takeoff before
> darkness, as there is no power.
>
> G. I dont' have much time to answer general questions, beyond those listed
> here.
>
> H. Lastly, If you want to relocate to PDK and fly from here. I have room
> for 3-5 people at my house and one small vehicle. First come first served.
>
> JT
>
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| Subject: | Re: Thoughts on Shipping? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Glaeser, Dennis A" <dennis.glaeser@eds.com>
It might depend on where you are located. I'm in Michigan, and Van's
shipping was less than I was able to get on Freightquote (I don't
remember what was quoted). I picked my wing kit (slow build) up at the
shipper's dock (ABF) with a borrowed trailer and paid $242.37. Home
delivery would have been $50 more - and you'd have to be there when it
is delivered of course (during the day - of course).
Dennis Glaeser
7A - now building those wings ...
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| Subject: | Re: Thoughts on Shipping? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Struyk" <rv8striker@hotmail.com>
Here's what I did on the big items to be shipped.
At my wife's urging I called her old boss who owns a small manufacturing
company. My wife knew, from working in the accounts payable department, that
most companies have corporate shipping rates, based upon volume. The more
they ship, the more the discount. I met with her boss and I asked if we
could have the items sent directly to us, but billed on their corporate
account. He had no problem with that so the arrangements were made betweens
his company, the freight company and Van's. As I recall some of the items
came COD, the others we paid to her boss's company. They did charge a bit
extra (50 bucks I think) for home delivery, over a business (airport) but it
was not that much compared to the discount received.
I used this method for our QB wings and fuse, as well as the engine and
prop. The discount was near 60%!
If you know anyone who owns a small buisness or company it could be worth
your time to see if they could do the same for you.
Food for thought.
Steve Struyk
St. Charles, MO
RV-8, N842S
90% done, 90% to go.
----- Original Message -----
From: <DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Thoughts on Shipping?
> --> RV-List message posted by: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com
>
> I used Partain Transport. Highly recommend them. More details on Doug
> Reeves
> site.
>
> Doug Preston
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Robin Marks" <robin@mrmoisture.com>
I wish to be 4th in line for not getting the G-Meter!
Robin
RV-4
200 hours
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Darrell Reiley
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re:G Meter
--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley
<lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
I saw that one, I was third in line... a day late.
Darrell
Oldsfolks@aol.com wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
Check on down the list under " RV stuff for sale",there was one there.
Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
Charleston,Arkansas
Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
---------------------------------
Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
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| Subject: | Re: Prop ballancing article (reprint) |
--> RV-List message posted by: <aerokinetic@sbcglobal.net>
>Cut a piece of aluminum, making a disk about 3 inches wide and 6 inches
long.
How does one make a disk 3" wide and 6" long? A disk is 2 dimensional. Am I
missing something here? does he mean a cylinder?
Scott
N4ZW
do not archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: <aerokinetic@sbcglobal.net>
Some little cautions about BMA and the EFIS Lite:
You have to pay a $195.00 fee for 'royalties' for the Jepp database
(basically they tack on the cost of a one-year database subscription).
"Manditory" I was told... and it's over and above the advertised price (they
don't tell you this up front). Seems to me that if it's manditory, and the
unit won't work without it -then it should be included in the advertised
price. It isn't. Garmin doesn't do that when you buy a GPS from them -it
comes loaded with the Jepp database for the advertised price -you're just
responsible for any updates -which is the way it should be.
Another thing is that they charge $50 for shipping -excessive IMHO, but
relatively minor.
And yet another -I decided that I didn't like the 'smoke and mirrors'
(term used by another poster -appropriate) sort of treatment by them, and
the general feeling that everything from them had a hidden extra cost
somewhere they were just waiting to stick you with, not to mention the tech
difficulties reported and the not-so-upfront attitude about said
difficulties (compared to the honest and upfront Dynon people for example).
So I decided to cancel my order. They informed me that to cancel would cost
me 3% for the initial charge made to my credit card and another 3% to run a
credit to the card -For a total of 6% of the $3040.00 that the unit was
going to cost w/ the shipping... or $182.58. Just to cancel an order for a
unit that hadn't shipped, and wasn't going to ship for another 2 weeks (they
told me that several times in two-week increments -so who knows). Why they
charged my card so far before the unit was to ship is beyond me anyhow
-unless they needed the money. Which could be the case. Anyway, I felt I was
treated very rudely. After thinking about it awhile, I called and told them
I wouldn't pay such a charge -and it took a few days of emailing and
pleading my case (to put it somewhat lightly -but I didn't yell at anyone)
and putting the charge in dispute in order to get all my money back. Not a
pleasant experience.
I have no doubt that BMA's Greg Richter is a true genius, and that he has
every capability to eventually develop a great and reliable product. How
customers are treated over the course of time will be interesting to watch.
I have a Dynon now (just recieved it) -they've been great to deal with. The
unit shipped a little earlier than promised (and they charged the card when
the unit shipped).
Make your own decision... I know you all will anyway.
Personally, I hope all these companies succeed -cause it's just that much
better for us all if they do -for numerous reasons.
Scott
N4ZW
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| Subject: | Re: Dyaton experimental race, July 24th |
--> RV-List message posted by: <aerokinetic@sbcglobal.net>
I've run the Airventure Cup Race two years now and had a complete blast...
I won my class in 2003 -my 1st year (O-320 RV -there were like 11 of us in
that class) with my fixed pitch 150 RV-4. Last year placed 4th in the RV's
(they didn't divide us up according to displacement like 2003). Last year I
was racing IO-360 powered planes...
And like Jon Huft said -the big thing is just to come and race -we have a
blast. Who cares who wins... Lots of 'extra perks' like catered dinner on
the museum floor at the Air Force museum after hours -we ate right next to
the planes... then had the place completely to ourselves for over two
hours... very cool. Then we went racing next morning. It just doesn't get
any better. Lots of fun -Y'all come race now! We need enough for another
O-320 RV class again...
It'll be some of the best fun you've ever had with your RV.
Scott
N4ZW
'Race 74' -"Think Fast"
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| Subject: | Re: Spark Plugs for EI ...was Engine problems |
--> RV-List message posted by: <aerokinetic@sbcglobal.net>
I've heard that using any sort of adaptor (from 14mm to 18mm plugs) altered
the heat range of the plug (I'm not sure I truly agree with this)... but
that being said, obviously if you are having good luck with these plugs then
the resulting heat range w/ use of the adaptor is OK for the application.
Are the NGK BR8ES (5422) plugs 14mm? I assume so. I'm interested in trying
some -but I guess I'll have to get some of Klaus' adaptors...
Scott
N4ZW
...In the process of overhauling my (1) Bendix S4LN-21 which runs along with
a Rose/ElectroAir unit...
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| Subject: | Re: Ti tie downs |
--> RV-List message posted by: <aerokinetic@sbcglobal.net>
Relax... you'll get them. He's very slow... and hard to get in touch with.
It took a couple months to get mine -mabye longer. I too thought he had gone
out of business and I'd never see my money again. You will eventually get a
package in the mail when you least expect it... and you'll be very pleased
with the product.
Scott
N4ZW
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| Subject: | Re: Vetterman exhaust/RV4 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Doug Weiler <dcw@mnwing.org>
Hi John:
I have Larry's cross over on my RV-4. Just so happens my cowling is off and
I'll be at the hangar tomorrow. Will get you all the photos you need.
Doug Weiler
Hudson, WI
On 9/6/05 8:39 PM, "John DeCuir" <jadecuir@comcast.net> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: John DeCuir <jadecuir@comcast.net>
>
> Well, the time has come to replace my Tolle exhaust system. It's
> getting to the point where there's more weld than tube. I've already
> ordered the cross-over system from Vetterman, and I'm hoping there
> won't be too much modification required. What I'm looking for are some
> photos of RV4's showing the exhaust installation. I may be rerouting
> some control cables and such, and I'm trying to steal some good ideas
> from you experts out there!
> I'm hoping the cowling doesn't need work.
>
> John DeCuir
> N204CP
> RV4 (#21)
> Salinas, CA
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Spark Plugs for EI ...was Engine problems |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> Are the NGK BR8ES (5422) plugs 14mm? I assume so. I'm interested in trying
> some -but I guess I'll have to get some of Klaus' adaptors...
Yeah, NGK BR8ES plugs are 14mm, 3/4" reach. I've been running them for
hundreds of hours on my Lightspeed Plasma II. They're cheap, reliable, and
work great on my IO-360-A1B6. I used the adapters which came with my EI.
Cheapest source I found was $1.61 each from Rock Auto. See the bottom of
this page: http://www.rvproject.com/pricewatch.html
My local Pep Boys used to stock 'em, but now it's a special order. Kragen
(Advance Auto Parts?) stocks them, slightly more expensive. Even Spruce
sells the BR8ES (relatively expensively):
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/ngk.php
Klaus charges $15/ea for the adapters, or you can get a set of 4 slightly
cheaper from Spruce:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/plugadapter.php
I still haven't been able to rationalize trying the Iridium plugs, i.e. NGK
BR8EIX. $7.10 each versus $1.61 each...hmm.....
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
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| Subject: | Re: Spark Plugs for EI ...was Engine problems |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Just a note, the BR7 or BR8 plugs are motorcycle plugs/air cooled
Volkswagon plugs. So a buggy shop should have them and or a motorcycle
shop. Although I am sure you can get them cheaper on line.
At 01:53 PM 9/7/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> > Are the NGK BR8ES (5422) plugs 14mm? I assume so. I'm interested in trying
> > some -but I guess I'll have to get some of Klaus' adaptors...
>
>Yeah, NGK BR8ES plugs are 14mm, 3/4" reach. I've been running them for
>hundreds of hours on my Lightspeed Plasma II. They're cheap, reliable, and
>work great on my IO-360-A1B6. I used the adapters which came with my EI.
>
>Cheapest source I found was $1.61 each from Rock Auto. See the bottom of
>this page: http://www.rvproject.com/pricewatch.html
>
>My local Pep Boys used to stock 'em, but now it's a special order. Kragen
>(Advance Auto Parts?) stocks them, slightly more expensive. Even Spruce
>sells the BR8ES (relatively expensively):
>http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/ngk.php
>
>Klaus charges $15/ea for the adapters, or you can get a set of 4 slightly
>cheaper from Spruce:
>http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/plugadapter.php
>
>I still haven't been able to rationalize trying the Iridium plugs, i.e. NGK
>BR8EIX. $7.10 each versus $1.61 each...hmm.....
>
>)_( Dan
>RV-7 N714D
>http://www.rvproject.com
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: Spark Plugs for EI ...was Engine problems |
--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
<snip>
I still haven't been able to rationalize trying the Iridium plugs, i.e.
NGK
BR8EIX. $7.10 each versus $1.61 each...hmm.....
<snip>
Dan,
I've been down the Iridium plug route and your rational is totally correct.
Nothing but fouling problems, short life and expense was my experience.
Darrell
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| Subject: | Spark Plugs for EI ...was Engine problems |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Wentz, Don" <don.wentz@intel.com>
Might try the Emag website for the adapters too.
Dw
RV-6 Emag with BR8
>
>Klaus charges $15/ea for the adapters, or you can get a set of 4
>slightly cheaper from Spruce:
>http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/plugadapter.php
>
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| Subject: | Re: 7A Project For Sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
Quoting Oliver Washburn <ollie6a@earthlink.net>:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Oliver Washburn" <ollie6a@earthlink.net>
>
> SO
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: RV-List: 7A Project For Sale
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net>
> >
> > I believe if you know of a medical condition that would be disqualifying,
> > you can't fly anywhere under any circumstances as PIC. However, you can
> > still fly.
> >
> > Anyway, the whole LSA thing just blows me away. To me it's the aviation
> > equivalent of "don't ask-don't tell"
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Morrow
> > To: rv-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RV-List: 7A Project For Sale
> >
> >
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Morrow" <DanFM01@butter.toast.net>
> >
> > If you are in danger of not passing your next medical, consider this. As
> > I
> > understand it, you can fly under LSA without a medical certificate.
> > However if you have failed a medical, you cannot fly LSA until you get
> > the
> > medical cleared. You could check with the EAA to see if this is correct.
> > It's bizarre, but apparently if you skip your next medical exam, you can
> > fly LSA no matter what your medical condition is if you think it is safe
> > to
> > do so.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <Trainnut01@aol.com>
> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RV-List: 7A Project For Sale
> >
> >Some on you are wrong on the thing about Sport License...there was a very
complete explanation of the Regulations on one of the Sport aviation
Issues, some months ago... Sorry I could not find my copy to tell you the
month....I thnik was early in the year...
Any how, if you have a valid license Auto. you can fly....But if you regular
Pilot License is denied, then you have a problem...
So there is a point, to get the LSL, if one think is not going to pass
your Medical renewal Why not?
Many people drive, and safely, even if the suffer from some illness
or other dissabilities, which the FAA will not approve.
The elderly man, that kill 6 people, when he press the accelator, instead
of the breaks,,,We saw this on National T.V (The report) and we also saw
the poor man, could hardly walk...
There are people out there, that should not be driving at all...
Same for flying...How about children flying an airplane...that is insane
to me, even if they are in perfect health...
My HOP
Bert
rv6a
Do Not archive
> >
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
I believe there is a national consumer credit rule that a seller cannot
charge your credit card in advance of shipping the product. You have a
valid claim if that is done to you.
Indiana Larry, RV7 Tip Up SunSeeker
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
" Happiness: like a butterfly, when pursued,
is always beyond our grasp, but which,
if one sits quietly, may light upon you."
Nathanial Hawthorn
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
----- Original Message -----
From: <aerokinetic@sbcglobal.net>
> --> RV-List message posted by: <aerokinetic@sbcglobal.net>
>
>
> snip
> So I decided to cancel my order. They informed me that to cancel would
> cost
> me 3% for the initial charge made to my credit card and another 3% to run
> a
> credit to the card -For a total of 6% of the $3040.00 that the unit was
> going to cost w/ the shipping... or $182.58. Just to cancel an order for a
> unit that hadn't shipped, and wasn't going to ship for another 2 weeks
> (they
> told me that several times in two-week increments -so who knows).
>
snip
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| Subject: | Re: Thoughts on Shipping? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "dick martin" <martin@gbonline.com>
Listers,
RE: freight shipping
I have been in a retail business for over 40 years and have a considerable
amount of experience with freight companies as a Receiver (not shipper). I
have found that when receiving items that have a high value and are also
fragile (airplanes etc) it is best to use Vans regular shipping company. I
have found that while ICC regs hold the carrier responsible for damage the
real world is that if you are a once in a life time receiver and your kit is
damaged, you will have a very difficult time with a claim. In the case of
dealing with Vans, I did experience a fair amout or damage in one of the
cartons of my kit. The freight company just ignored me. When I called Vans
and explained my dilemma, they told me not to worry, because they have
leverage with their carriers because of the volume that they do. They also
insure their shipments. In my case the damaged parts (half of the fuselage
skins etc) were promptly replaced and shipped immediately at no charge.
Note: Even though the truck driver will tell you that you can't do it, open
the box in front of him and look for damage and then sign the freight bill.
It is always cheaper to ship to a commercial address than a residential
address.
Dick Martin
RV8 N233M
the fast one
----- Original Message -----
From: <alan@reichertech.com>
Subject: RV-List: Thoughts on Shipping?
> --> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com
>
>
> What is the current thought on shipping kits from Van's? I'm getting
> ready to order my -8 wing kit (slow-build).
>
> Looking through the archives, the latest discussion I see is December
> 2004. The options appear to be (a) let Van's arrange it with their
> discount, or (b) use FreightQuote to arrange shipping and let Barb know
> about it.
>
> I want delivery to my driveway, so that may be a factor.
>
> - Alan
> RV-8 N927AR (reserved)
> Final Assembly of Horizontal/Vertical Stabilizers
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: David Leonard <wdleonard@gmail.com>
If that is ture it is a good rule. I have a BMA G3 lite and love it. I fly
IFR with it and although not perfect it is as good as any instrument in my
airplane. However, I do not like how they bill then ship the product many
months later. It should be illegal and I hope that your are correct. I paid
5 months before I received my instrument.
Go get em.
--
Dave Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html
On 9/7/05, LarryRobertHelming <lhelming@sigecom.net> wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
>
> I believe there is a national consumer credit rule that a seller cannot
> charge your credit card in advance of shipping the product. You have a
> valid claim if that is done to you.
>
> Indiana Larry, RV7 Tip Up SunSeeker
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> " Happiness: like a butterfly, when pursued,
> is always beyond our grasp, but which,
> if one sits quietly, may light upon you."
>
> Nathanial Hawthorn
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <aerokinetic@sbcglobal.net>
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: <aerokinetic@sbcglobal.net>
> >
> >
> > snip
>
> > So I decided to cancel my order. They informed me that to cancel would
> > cost
> > me 3% for the initial charge made to my credit card and another 3% to
> run
> > a
> > credit to the card -For a total of 6% of the $3040.00 that the unit was
> > going to cost w/ the shipping... or $182.58. Just to cancel an order for
> a
> > unit that hadn't shipped, and wasn't going to ship for another 2 weeks
> > (they
> > told me that several times in two-week increments -so who knows).
> >
> snip
>
>
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| Subject: | Elevator misalignment |
--> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
My RV8A's left and right elevator halves have incidence angles that differ by 1
degree. What kind of problems will this cause? Is there a tolerance you find
acceptable? Is there a fix short of building a new elevator half so the control
horn can be redrilled? The Matronics search server timed out so I haven't
been able to research this issue.
Dave Reel - RV8A
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator misalignment |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
I didn't build an 8 and it has been awhile, but can't you align the
elevators before drilling the two horns together? I would want the
elevators to be aligned properly.
Tim
RV-6
-------Original Message-------
From: DAVID REEL
Subject: RV-List: Elevator misalignment
--> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
My RV8A's left and right elevator halves have incidence angles that differ
by 1 degree. What kind of problems will this cause? Is there a tolerance
you find acceptable? Is there a fix short of building a new elevator half
so the control horn can be redrilled? The Matronics search server timed out
so I haven't been able to research this issue.
Dave Reel - RV8A
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator misalignment |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Assuming the horns have already been drilled, you might consider going from
3/16" to 1/4". That would allow you to bias one elevator one way in the
process, and the other elevator the other way -- to eliminate or at least
reduce the difference in incidence. You'd have to change the rod end
bearing from 3/16" to 1/4", but that's not a big deal.
I remember hearing one case where Van's approved enlarging the hole in the
control horns from 3/16" to 1/4", but definitely give them a call before
committing to that!
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Elevator misalignment
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
>
> I didn't build an 8 and it has been awhile, but can't you align the
> elevators before drilling the two horns together? I would want the
> elevators to be aligned properly.
>
> Tim
> RV-6
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: DAVID REEL
> Date: 09/07/05 22:49:32
> To: rvlist
> Subject: RV-List: Elevator misalignment
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
>
> My RV8A's left and right elevator halves have incidence angles that differ
> by 1 degree. What kind of problems will this cause? Is there a tolerance
> you find acceptable? Is there a fix short of building a new elevator half
> so the control horn can be redrilled? The Matronics search server timed
> out
> so I haven't been able to research this issue.
>
> Dave Reel - RV8A
>
>
>
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