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1. 12:12 AM - octane ratings of fuel (james frierson)
2. 12:14 AM - Re: Looking for RV-4 prop (james frierson)
3. 04:59 AM - re [2]: (Isabella Norwood)
4. 06:02 AM - Re: Trio Alt Hold (Stewart, Michael \(ISS Atlanta\))
5. 10:33 AM - Project Insurance--Go with AVEMCO (czechsix@juno.com)
6. 10:44 AM - Re: F-863 interference with F-872A root fairing (Puckett, Gregory [DENTK])
7. 10:56 AM - Re: Project Insurance--Go with AVEMCO (J.T. Helms)
8. 11:31 AM - Re: Project Insurance--Go with AVEMCO (Darrell Reiley)
9. 03:46 PM - Alternate FAB box install pics (rv6fly)
10. 05:02 PM - anodizing engine baffles (sarg314)
11. 05:12 PM - Re: anodizing engine baffles (Alex Peterson)
12. 05:48 PM - Re: Finn Lassen N#993FL (Chuck)
13. 05:59 PM - Re: anodizing engine baffles (Walter Tondu)
14. 07:17 PM - Slobovia Outernational Pulled Pork Extravaganza (Charlie England)
15. 07:39 PM - RV8QB flap attachment (Paul Rice)
16. 08:18 PM - Re: Alternate FAB box install pics (Dick DeCramer)
17. 09:03 PM - Re: anodizing engine baffles (linn walters)
18. 09:07 PM - Re: anodizing engine baffles (linn walters)
19. 09:23 PM - Re: Alternate FAB box install pics (Ed Holyoke)
20. 09:58 PM - Re: anodizing engine baffles (Vanremog@aol.com)
21. 10:01 PM - Re: RV8QB flap attachment (Dick DeCramer)
22. 10:15 PM - Re: Finn Lassen N#993FL (Finn Lassen)
23. 10:55 PM - Canopy Crack Fix (John Erickson)
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| Subject: | octane ratings of fuel |
--> RV-List message posted by: "james frierson" <tn3639@hotmail.com>
To all you gearheads out there, I ran across some interesting reading on
octane ratings.
Here's the website if your interested...
http://www.prime-mover.org/Engines/GArticles/octane.html
Thanks
Scott
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| Subject: | Looking for RV-4 prop |
--> RV-List message posted by: "james frierson" <tn3639@hotmail.com>
There is one on e-bay that may fill the bill. Auction#4576300758
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>From: Doug Weiler <dcw@mnwing.org>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: RV List <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Looking for RV-4 prop
>Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 20:08:20 -0500
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Doug Weiler <dcw@mnwing.org>
>
>Fellow Listers:
>
>A friend is looking for a replacement prop (used) for his 150 hp RV-4. He
>would consider a wood or Sensenich prop. Contact me if you might know of
>one.
>
>Thanks
>
>Doug Weiler
>Pres, MN Wing
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael \(ISS Atlanta\)" <mstewart@iss.net>
http://www.mstewart.net/super8/electrical/trio
enjoy,
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles heathco
Subject: RV-List: Trio Alt Hold
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles heathco" <cheathco@gvtc.com>
I just got my unit in this afternoon. I have a pix of the servo mounted
and attatched to the top side of the elv bell crank, sort of a guess as
to the spot to drill the bell crank for attatching the contr arm. as
well as best way to fabricate the mounting plate. I am probably one of
the first group to get one, but I would think tru trac setup would be
about the same. I would apreciate any advice and hopefully some detailed
pix of working settups. Pls reply to my email. Tnx Charlie heathco
cheathco@gvtc.com
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| Subject: | Project Insurance--Go with AVEMCO |
--> RV-List message posted by: "czechsix@juno.com" <czechsix@juno.com>
I got the same quote from AIG ($699) and thought it was ridiculous having to pay
$119 for liability, which I don't need and didn't want, but they refused to
write the policy without including it. Methinks it's a gouging technique but I
digress... Anyway, I went with AVEMCO which surprisingly was cheaper....$583
if memory serves, without the pointless liability insurance. I think that was
for $70K coverage on my project.
--Mark Navratil
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
RV-8A N2D forever almost finished but never quite ready to fly...
From: "John Ciolino" <jbc2000@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Project Insurance
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Ciolino" <jbc2000@earthlink.net>
I just paid Nationair $699 for AIG comprehensive and liability. They charge
$119 for liability in case it rolls out of my garage, down the street and
kills someone.
John Ciolino
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Perkinson" <bobperk@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RV-List: Project Insurance
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Perkinson" <bobperk@bellsouth.net>
>
>
> All,
> Where can insurance be had to cover my project? How much will it cost me
> per year?. Homeowners wont even talk to me about it, as far as they are
> concerned it is just a pile of junk.
>
> Bob Perkinson
> Hendersonville, TN.
I got the same quote from AIG ($699) and thought it was ridiculous having to pay
$119 for liability, which I don't need and didn't want, but they refused to
write the policy without including it. Methinks it's a gouging technique but I
digress... Anyway, I went with AVEMCO which surprisingly was cheaper....$583
if memory serves, without the pointless liability insurance. I think that was
for $70K coverage on my project.
--Mark Navratil
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
RV-8A N2D forever almost finished but never quite ready to fly...
From: "John Ciolino" jbc2000@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: RV-List: Project Insurance
-- RV-List message posted by: "John Ciolino" jbc2000@earthlink.net
I just paid Nationair $699 for AIG comprehensive and liability. They charge
$119 for liability in case it rolls out of my garage, down the street and
kills someone.
John Ciolino
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Perkinson" bobperk@bellsouth.net
Subject: RV-List: Project Insurance
-- RV-List message posted by: "Bob Perkinson" bobperk@bellsouth.net
All,
Where can insurance be had to cover my project? How much will it cost me
per year?. Homeowners wont even talk to me about it, as far as they are
concerned it is just a pile of junk.
Bob Perkinson
Hendersonville, TN.
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| Subject: | Re: F-863 interference with F-872A root fairing |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Puckett, Gregory [DENTK]" <Greg.Puckett@united.com>
Mickey,
Just to follow up.
Van's informed me that removing the 3/8" from the top of the bracket would not
appreciably reduce the strength of the assembly. They advised that as long as
I can maintain the 1.5d edge distance for the AN3 bolts to the fuselage and only
have to remove 3/8" from the top of the bracket, I would be fine.
It appears from your pictures, you would have had to remove even more than 3/8.
It seems kind of strange in your case that you could not use the standard upper
fuselage bolt hole location that is in a prepunched position.
By the way, that's a fantastic idea for the aileron control stops! Sometimes procrastination
on my part pays off big:-)
http://www.rv8.ch/article.php?story=20040924215600851&query=control%2Bstop
Greg Puckett
Elizabeth, CO
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| Subject: | Project Insurance--Go with AVEMCO |
--> RV-List message posted by: "J.T. Helms" <jhelms@i1.net>
I hope you understand that it isn't NationAir requiring the liability on
those policies but AIG. The EAA's program doesn't add liability coverage,
but is a little more expensive than AIG's builders risk coverage and
apparently AVEMCO's.
I don't have a problem at all with people insuring with AVEMCO for the
builder's risk. I just want you all to understand that AVEMCO's pricing on
flying RVs is higher right now, and their coverages are not as good. So,
please remember to check with an agent for in flight coverages when you get
it done.
Specifically, AVEMCO has limitations for the flyoff period, they have per
person limits (rather than the more beneficial per passenger limits like AIG
and EAA's program), and they have family sublimits which none of the other
companies have.
JT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of czechsix@juno.com
Subject: RV-List: Project Insurance--Go with AVEMCO
--> RV-List message posted by: "czechsix@juno.com" <czechsix@juno.com>
I got the same quote from AIG ($699) and thought it was ridiculous having to
pay $119 for liability, which I don't need and didn't want, but they refused
to write the policy without including it. Methinks it's a gouging technique
but I digress... Anyway, I went with AVEMCO which surprisingly was
cheaper....$583 if memory serves, without the pointless liability insurance.
I think that was for $70K coverage on my project.
--Mark Navratil
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
RV-8A N2D forever almost finished but never quite ready to fly...
From: "John Ciolino" <jbc2000@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Project Insurance
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Ciolino" <jbc2000@earthlink.net>
I just paid Nationair $699 for AIG comprehensive and liability. They charge
$119 for liability in case it rolls out of my garage, down the street and
kills someone.
John Ciolino
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Perkinson" <bobperk@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RV-List: Project Insurance
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Perkinson" <bobperk@bellsouth.net>
>
>
> All,
> Where can insurance be had to cover my project? How much will it cost
> me per year?. Homeowners wont even talk to me about it, as far as they
> are concerned it is just a pile of junk.
>
> Bob Perkinson
> Hendersonville, TN.
I got the same quote from AIG ($699) and thought it was ridiculous having to
pay $119 for liability, which I don't need and didn't want, but they refused
to write the policy without including it. Methinks it's a gouging technique
but I digress... Anyway, I went with AVEMCO which surprisingly was
cheaper....$583 if memory serves, without the pointless liability insurance.
I think that was for $70K coverage on my project.
--Mark Navratil
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
RV-8A N2D forever almost finished but never quite ready to fly...
From: "John Ciolino" jbc2000@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: RV-List: Project Insurance
-- RV-List message posted by: "John Ciolino" jbc2000@earthlink.net
I just paid Nationair $699 for AIG comprehensive and liability. They charge
$119 for liability in case it rolls out of my garage, down the street and
kills someone.
John Ciolino
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Perkinson" bobperk@bellsouth.net
Subject: RV-List: Project Insurance
-- RV-List message posted by: "Bob Perkinson" bobperk@bellsouth.net
All,
Where can insurance be had to cover my project? How much will it cost me
per year?. Homeowners wont even talk to me about it, as far as they are
concerned it is just a pile of junk.
Bob Perkinson
Hendersonville, TN.
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| Subject: | Re: Project Insurance--Go with AVEMCO |
--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
The demand for liability coverage packaged in came as many builders were located
on airports. Most municipalities will not lease a hanger to anyone without it.
This has been the standard, flying aircraft or non-flying aircraft.
Many builders that are building in the garage do not carry any type of insurance
at all.
Just food for thought...
Darrell
(do not archive)
"czechsix@juno.com" <czechsix@juno.com> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: "czechsix@juno.com"
I got the same quote from AIG ($699) and thought it was ridiculous having to pay
$119 for liability, which I don't need and didn't want, but they refused to
write the policy without including it. Methinks it's a gouging technique but I
digress... Anyway, I went with AVEMCO which surprisingly was cheaper....$583
if memory serves, without the pointless liability insurance. I think that was
for $70K coverage on my project.
--Mark Navratil
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
RV-8A N2D forever almost finished but never quite ready to fly...
From: "John Ciolino"
Subject: Re: RV-List: Project Insurance
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Ciolino"
I just paid Nationair $699 for AIG comprehensive and liability. They charge
$119 for liability in case it rolls out of my garage, down the street and
kills someone.
John Ciolino
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Perkinson"
Subject: RV-List: Project Insurance
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Perkinson"
>
>
> All,
> Where can insurance be had to cover my project? How much will it cost me
> per year?. Homeowners wont even talk to me about it, as far as they are
> concerned it is just a pile of junk.
>
> Bob Perkinson
> Hendersonville, TN.
I got the same quote from AIG ($699) and thought it was ridiculous having to pay
$119 for liability, which I don't need and didn't want, but they refused to
write the policy without including it. Methinks it's a gouging technique but I
digress... Anyway, I went with AVEMCO which surprisingly was cheaper....$583
if memory serves, without the pointless liability insurance. I think that was
for $70K coverage on my project.
--Mark Navratil
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
RV-8A N2D forever almost finished but never quite ready to fly...
From: "John Ciolino" jbc2000@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: RV-List: Project Insurance
-- RV-List message posted by: "John Ciolino" jbc2000@earthlink.net
I just paid Nationair $699 for AIG comprehensive and liability. They charge
$119 for liability in case it rolls out of my garage, down the street and
kills someone.
John Ciolino
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Perkinson" bobperk@bellsouth.net
Subject: RV-List: Project Insurance
-- RV-List message posted by: "Bob Perkinson" bobperk@bellsouth.net
All,
Where can insurance be had to cover my project? How much will it cost me
per year?. Homeowners wont even talk to me about it, as far as they are
concerned it is just a pile of junk.
Bob Perkinson
Hendersonville, TN.
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| Subject: | Alternate FAB box install pics |
--> RV-List message posted by: rv6fly <rv6fly@bresnan.net>
Would any of you RVers have online pictures of the FAB installation
that I came up with years ago where you mount the "U" baffle material to
the tunnel on the lower cowl and the horizontal portion on the top of
the FAB box? A builder I'm helping is at that stage and a picture would
be better than trying to explain. I'm 2 1/2 hours away so can't just
run over and show him.
Also, he mentioned that some are recommending an alternate source of
air in case the K&N ices up. If you could point us to any pictures of
this kind of installation, that would be great. I wouldn't think icing
would be a problem for a VFR pilot but I guess it wouldn't hurt to add
an alternate source just in case.
Thanks, Bob Skinner
--
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| Subject: | anodizing engine baffles |
--> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
I am just starting on my engine baffles. I saw another builder's plane
which had the baffles blue anodized and it looks good. However,
anodizing hardens the surface and might make it more prone to crack.
I'm just guessing here.
Does any one have any experience with this? Are there planes with
hundreds of hours on them with anodized baffled that haven't cracked?
--
Tom Sargent, RV-6A, engine
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| Subject: | anodizing engine baffles |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> --> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
>
> I am just starting on my engine baffles. I saw another
> builder's plane which had the baffles blue anodized and it
> looks good. However,
> anodizing hardens the surface and might make it more prone to
> crack.
> I'm just guessing here.
>
> Does any one have any experience with this? Are there planes
> with hundreds of hours on them with anodized baffled that
> haven't cracked?
> --
> Tom Sargent, RV-6A, engine
Tom, anodizing removes about half the fatigue life on aluminum. Hard to
tell what an individual's experience will be on the baffles, lots of other
variables.
Alex Peterson
RV6-A N66AP 667 hours
Maple Grove, MN
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| Subject: | Re: Finn Lassen N#993FL |
--> RV-List message posted by: Chuck <chuck515tigger@yahoo.com>
Finn,
Glad you're alive & well (except for the minor stuff). Sounds like there might
be a good story associated with this. I scared the heck out myself tryin' (and
succeeded) to get into Tallahassee Executive one DARK night a year or two
back, when the lights wouldn't come on. Thought for sure a tree would reach
up and grab my tail... but that's another story. Let's hear yours.
Chuck
Finn Lassen <finn.lassen@verizon.net> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: Finn Lassen
I'm fine. Just 11 stitches on inside left leg and bunch of minor cuts
and bruises.
Plane is totaled.
Approach into dark field at night. Controlled flight into trees.
Van has designed heck of an airplane! My hat's off to him!
Don't expect any claims. No property damage (except for the plane - no
hull so no claim).
Actually crashed onto my own lot.
Finn
J.T. Helms wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "J.T. Helms"
>
>Anyone know any particulars about the loss near Bell, FL this weekend?
>
>Specifically, was Finn injured in the crash?
>
>I cannot find any news reports on it. Not even an entry in the weekend log
>on the Gilchrist County sheriff's log.
>
>JT
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: anodizing engine baffles |
--> RV-List message posted by: Walter Tondu <walter@tondu.com>
On 09/27 5:00, sarg314 wrote:
> I am just starting on my engine baffles. I saw another builder's plane
> which had the baffles blue anodized and it looks good. However,
> anodizing hardens the surface and might make it more prone to crack.
> I'm just guessing here.
>
> Does any one have any experience with this? Are there planes with
> hundreds of hours on them with anodized baffled that haven't cracked?
Sorry, no experience with anodizing but you could get the whole
lot powder coated as an option. More color and texture choices
than anodizing, I think..
I had my panel and rudder pedals powder coated and I'm really
happy with the results. Powder coating is very very durable
and can withstand the heat so no problem there. And there is
no issue with the heat treatment of the aluminum when pc aluminum
since the oven is less than 500 degrees if I remember correctly.
I would also bet that there are more facilities that do pc
than anodizing in most metro areas.
--
Walter Tondu
http://www.rv7-a.com
Flying!
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| Subject: | Slobovia Outernational Pulled Pork Extravaganza |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Party Time!!
The "Lower Slobovia Garden Club" will be serving BBQ pulled pork to any
flyers/drivers within range at Noon on October 22. Plan your flight to
MS71, Slobovia Outernational Airport, just north of Jackson MS (Memphis
Sectional). Jackson approach is 125.25 for vectors, if needed, & our
field freq is 122.75. Plan to land to the south, wind permitting (4800
ft of grass) & taxi to the south end of the field. Bedrooms, couches &
floor space available if anyone needs to overnight with us. For more
info or driving directions, email me or call me at 601.879.9596.
Come on down!
Charlie England
flying RV-4, -7 in the oven
Slobovia Outernational (MS71)
601.879.9596
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| Subject: | RV8QB flap attachment |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Rice" <rice737@msn.com>
HI all,
I'm just about ready to install my flaps on the wings. With the aileron in
its neutral position, it seems that when I line the trailing edges of the
flap and aileron, (yes I will need the wider -4 hinge), the upper flap skin
hits the aft wing spar. Has anyone run into this problem before, do I need
to tighten the radius of the curve that slides under the upper wing skin?
Thank you
Paul
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| Subject: | Alternate FAB box install pics |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dick DeCramer" <diesel@rconnect.com>
Van's will supply you a kit on FAB airbox to resolve ice blockage problems.
The modification is a small trap door on the bottom of the FAB which
bypasses the K&N filter which was shown in an issue of the RVator few years
ago. However, Van's Service Bulletin is on Van's website under Letters,
Service Bulletins, and Revisions with a date of May 2003. It does not have
an illustration but does say to call Van's and ask for a FAB modification
kit which is (or at least was in 2003) free.
Dick DeCramer
N500DD RV6
87 hours...Keep riveting because you can't believe how good RV's fly and it
gets better each flight too!!!
> [Original Message]
> From: rv6fly <rv6fly@bresnan.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 9/27/2005 6:13:12 PM
> Subject: RV-List: Alternate FAB box install pics
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: rv6fly <rv6fly@bresnan.net>
>
> Would any of you RVers have online pictures of the FAB installation
> that I came up with years ago where you mount the "U" baffle material to
> the tunnel on the lower cowl and the horizontal portion on the top of
> the FAB box? A builder I'm helping is at that stage and a picture would
> be better than trying to explain. I'm 2 1/2 hours away so can't just
> run over and show him.
>
> Also, he mentioned that some are recommending an alternate source of
> air in case the K&N ices up. If you could point us to any pictures of
> this kind of installation, that would be great. I wouldn't think icing
> would be a problem for a VFR pilot but I guess it wouldn't hurt to add
> an alternate source just in case.
>
> Thanks, Bob Skinner
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: anodizing engine baffles |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
Alex Peterson wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
>
>
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
>>
>>I am just starting on my engine baffles. I saw another
>>builder's plane which had the baffles blue anodized and it
>>looks good. However,
>>anodizing hardens the surface and might make it more prone to
>>crack.
>>I'm just guessing here.
>>
>>Does any one have any experience with this? Are there planes
>>with hundreds of hours on them with anodized baffled that
>>haven't cracked?
>>--
>>Tom Sargent, RV-6A, engine
>>
>>
>
>Tom, anodizing removes about half the fatigue life on aluminum. Hard to
>tell what an individual's experience will be on the baffles, lots of other
>variables.
>
You wouldn't have good, hard, factual data that you can point me to, do you?
Linn
do not archive
>
>Alex Peterson
>RV6-A N66AP 667 hours
>Maple Grove, MN
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| Subject: | Re: anodizing engine baffles |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
sarg314 wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
>
>I am just starting on my engine baffles. I saw another builder's plane
>which had the baffles blue anodized and it looks good. However,
>anodizing hardens the surface and might make it more prone to crack.
>I'm just guessing here.
>
Bad guess. Anodizing is only skin deep. More prone to crack is
subjective. But I would have to agree that anodizing might lessen the
aluminum's fatigue life. So it'll crack in 98 years Vs. 100 years.
>Does any one have any experience with this?
>
I don't have any life expectancy experience with anodizing. Nothing I
anodized has failed to my knowledge.
> Are there planes with
>hundreds of hours on them with anodized baffled that haven't cracked?
>
Now this I'm sure of. Lots of commercial airliners have anodized
parts. Haven't seen any AD's yet. 'Course, airliners have had problems
with non-anodized aluminum, so maybe that wasn't such a good example!
Linn
do not archive ..... y'all need to use this more!
>--
>Tom Sargent, RV-6A, engine
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| Subject: | Alternate FAB box install pics |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" <bicyclop@pacbell.net>
Hey Bob,
Try this:
http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=5296
I've been looking at it lately and he credits you. Van's has an
alternate air flap setup that they'll supply free. Give them a call.
Pax
Ed Holyoke
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rv6fly
Subject: RV-List: Alternate FAB box install pics
--> RV-List message posted by: rv6fly <rv6fly@bresnan.net>
Would any of you RVers have online pictures of the FAB installation
that I came up with years ago where you mount the "U" baffle material to
the tunnel on the lower cowl and the horizontal portion on the top of
the FAB box? A builder I'm helping is at that stage and a picture would
be better than trying to explain. I'm 2 1/2 hours away so can't just
run over and show him.
Also, he mentioned that some are recommending an alternate source of
air in case the K&N ices up. If you could point us to any pictures of
this kind of installation, that would be great. I wouldn't think icing
would be a problem for a VFR pilot but I guess it wouldn't hurt to add
an alternate source just in case.
Thanks, Bob Skinner
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| Subject: | Re: anodizing engine baffles |
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 9/27/2005 5:04:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
sarg314@comcast.net writes:
I am just starting on my engine baffles. I saw another builder's plane
which had the baffles blue anodized and it looks good. However,
anodizing hardens the surface and might make it more prone to crack.
I'm just guessing here.
Does any one have any experience with this? Are there planes with
hundreds of hours on them with anodized baffled that haven't cracked?
============================
Yes. Mine are gold anodized per MIL-A-8625 Type II, Class 2. IMO, the
cracking concern touted for anodizing is highly exaggerated. My wing spars are
also anodized as are all the Phlogiston spars that Van's ships. They are a
thing of beauty and I guarantee you that those spars will outlive us all.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 765hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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| Subject: | RV8QB flap attachment |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dick DeCramer" <diesel@rconnect.com>
I had the problem with my RV6. I bought a tube of Prussian Blue from NAPA
and spread it on the flap to determine where the curved portion of the flap
skin actually hit. The forward bent portion of the skin had to be reformed
so the flap could be moved up more. I ended up bending with my seamers the
inboard 12" to 16" of the flap skin into fairly tight radius where it had
run into something on the rear spar. I also had the bottom skin of the
flap hang up on the bottom of the fuselage preventing the flap from
assuming a fully retracted, in trail position. This required careful
trimming of the inboard trailing edge of the flap to allow it to travel up
the side of the fuselage into the in trail position while leaving enough of
the bottom forward inboard skin to cover the hole cut in the fuselage for
the flap push rod when the flap is retracted. I also joggled the inboard
4" or so of the remaining bottom lower flap skin to get more flap movement
in the up direction. This entire process took some careful thought and
cautious trimming as the flaps would first bottom on the top curl of the
top flap skin and the rear spar then, alternately, the bottom skin would
hang up on the fuselage meaning I had to work two problems at once.
Eventually, I got the flaps bent and trimmed correctly. Hope this helps.
Dick DeCramer
N500DD RV6 slide
87 hours to date
> [Original Message]
> From: Paul Rice <rice737@msn.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 9/27/2005 10:01:54 PM
> Subject: RV-List: RV8QB flap attachment
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Rice" <rice737@msn.com>
>
> HI all,
>
> I'm just about ready to install my flaps on the wings. With the aileron
in
> its neutral position, it seems that when I line the trailing edges of the
> flap and aileron, (yes I will need the wider -4 hinge), the upper flap
skin
> hits the aft wing spar. Has anyone run into this problem before, do I
need
> to tighten the radius of the curve that slides under the upper wing skin?
>
> Thank you
> Paul
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Finn Lassen N#993FL |
--> RV-List message posted by: Finn Lassen <finn.lassen@verizon.net>
Maybe some day. Suffice to say I'd successfully landed there at night
before but with the moon in a completely clear sky and with field next
to runway more clearly contrasting the runway.
Finn
Chuck wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Chuck <chuck515tigger@yahoo.com>
>
>Finn,
>
>Glad you're alive & well (except for the minor stuff). Sounds like there might
be a good story associated with this. I scared the heck out myself tryin'
(and succeeded) to get into Tallahassee Executive one DARK night a year or two
back, when the lights wouldn't come on. Thought for sure a tree would reach
up and grab my tail... but that's another story. Let's hear yours.
>
>Chuck
>
>
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| Subject: | Canopy Crack Fix |
--> RV-List message posted by: "John Erickson" <Droopy@ericksonjc.com>
Ok, the question I hoped I'd never have to ask... And no, this isn't a
"my canopy cracked while I was drilling it" question... Almost...
There I was... Beautiful Nevada day (hot as hades) descending at about
200kts to beat a Baron into North Las Vegas. Soft muffled pop sounds and
a little extra wind noise... Can't see anything and the rest of the
arrival/landing are uneventful. Post-flight I find a crack in the canopy
of my RV-8 on the right side about 18 inches forward of the back end of
it. Crack goes from the skirt up about 3/4's of the way to the top of
the canopy (straight up). I'm thinking of trying to fix it by wicking
some Weld-On #3 into it and stop drilling the end. (I know it won't be
pretty, but it is WAY outta the line of sight unless some F-16 is
gunning me, and I don't really have the time yet to fit a new canopy.
(Hopefully can do that next year...))
Questions are...
Am I out to lunch thinking I may be able to fix this without making a
new canopy (at least temporarily)?
Would you try to stop-drill this or just wick in the Weld-On (ie am I
going to cause even more stress areas by stopdrilling)?
What size and type of drill to use?
Thanks,
John
RV-10 #40208
Flying RV-8 (Bought not built...)
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