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1. 06:20 AM - Re: Where to buy the honeycomb that is in our cowlings? (Ed Anderson)
2. 06:26 AM - Re: Fuel prices (linn walters)
3. 06:52 AM - Two air compressors in tandem?? (Hal Kempthorne)
4. 07:08 AM - Re: Two air compressors in tandem?? (linn walters)
5. 07:17 AM - Re: Two air compressors in tandem?? (Chuck Jensen)
6. 07:22 AM - Re: Two air compressors in tandem?? (Trainnut01@aol.com)
7. 07:39 AM - Re: Fuel prices (Mike Parker)
8. 07:41 AM - Fuel Pricing (Glen Matejcek)
9. 07:56 AM - Re: Web site change?? (Lockamy, Jack L)
10. 07:57 AM - Re: Two air compressors in tandem?? (David Burton)
11. 08:02 AM - Liability Insurance (bertrv6@highstream.net)
12. 08:43 AM - Re: Two air compressors in tandem?? (Smitty)
13. 08:48 AM - Re: Anodizining engine baffles (James H Nelson)
14. 09:16 AM - Re: Fuel prices (Bob 1)
15. 09:32 AM - Re: On Vacation - Not RV related (Don Mack)
16. 09:33 AM - Re: Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection (Bob)
17. 10:24 AM - Re: Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection (Scott Bilinski)
18. 10:28 AM - Builder assistance available (Bud Newhall)
19. 11:14 AM - Re: Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection (Ron Lee)
20. 11:27 AM - Re: Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection (Michael McGee)
21. 11:28 AM - Re: Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection (Tracy Crook)
22. 11:35 AM - Re: Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection (Konrad L. Werner)
23. 11:59 AM - Re: Fuel PricingFuel Pricing (JT)
24. 12:12 PM - Double Eagle (AEG - Albuquerque NM) Fly-in 8-9 Oct 2005 (Ron Lee)
25. 12:15 PM - Re: Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection (Ron Lee)
26. 12:19 PM - Re: Fuel PricingFuel Pricing (sportav8r@aol.com)
27. 12:32 PM - Re: Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection (Konrad L. Werner)
28. 12:33 PM - Re: Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection (Frank Stringham)
29. 01:03 PM - Re: Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection (James Ochs)
30. 01:32 PM - Re: Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection (Scott Bilinski)
31. 01:42 PM - Re: On Vacation - Not RV related (Bob 1)
32. 01:55 PM - Re: Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection (James Ochs)
33. 02:02 PM - Re: Fuel Pricing (Darrell Reiley)
34. 02:10 PM - Re: Looking for RV-4 prop (UFOBUCK@aol.com)
35. 02:18 PM - Re: Where to buy the honeycomb that is in our cowlings? (Brian Alley)
36. 03:25 PM - Re: On Vacation - Not RV related (Matt Johnson)
37. 03:26 PM - Re: On Vacation - Not RV related (bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net)
38. 03:38 PM - Re: Anywhere map or TrueFlight? (Bordelon, Greg)
39. 03:45 PM - Re: Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection (Ron Lee)
40. 05:03 PM - Re: On Vacation - Not RV related (not processed: message from valid local sender) (Rob Prior (rv7))
41. 05:42 PM - Re: Liability Insurance (Bill Schlatterer)
42. 06:43 PM - Re: Liability Insurance (James Ochs)
43. 06:57 PM - Re: anodizing engine baffles (Dean Pichon)
44. 07:28 PM - Re: Liability Insurance (Bruce Gray)
45. 07:59 PM - Re: Liability Insurance (Vanremog@aol.com)
46. 08:00 PM - Re: Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection (Alex Peterson)
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| Subject: | Re: Where to buy the honeycomb that is in our cowlings? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
One thing you might not be aware of, but these pre-preg sheets are shipped and
stored in cold storage to prevent the epoxy from starting the chemical reaction.
This straight from their website:
Prepregs are supplied to customers in roll form, to be stored frozen and defrosted
before use. When cured at elevated temperatures and under pressure, prepregs
form molded components that are extremely strong and stiff. A broad range
of formulated resins are used to impregnate the woven and unidirectional reinforcements.
This generally keeps it from being used by most homebuilders.
Huuummmm wonder if we really need all that stuff the wife keeps in the deep freeze???
Ed A
----- Original Message -----
From: <Vanremog@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Where to buy the honeycomb that is in our cowlings?
> --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
>
>
> In a message dated 9/29/2005 9:06:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> Vanremog@aol.com writes:
>
> A friend of mine is rebuilding his cowling from scratch on his Mustang II.
> He built the first one from scratch and did a great job but wants to build
> another one thats lighter. He has been looking over my cowls on my 6a and
> has
> asked me to find out if you can buy just the honeycomb somewhere?
>
>
>
>
> Just a guess but I would try Hexcell.
>
>
>
>
> Sorry, I misspelled Hexcel. Here's the link
>
> _http://www.hexcel.com/Products/Downloads/HexWeb+Honeycomb+Datasheets.htm_
> (http://www.hexcel.com/Products/Downloads/HexWeb+Honeycomb+Datasheets.htm)
>
>
>
> GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 765hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
I think it's called price-fixing. Collusion means working together (or
cooperating) and I don't think that's illegal. Price fixing definitely is.
Linn
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Vanremog@aol.com wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
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>
>In a message dated 9/29/2005 2:00:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>ronlee@pcisys.net writes:
>
>
>
>>Then you get the local competition working together and then your really
>>screwed.
>>
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>
>That sounds like something that is illegal. Can't remember the term.
>
>
>=================================
>
>It's called collusion.
>
>GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 765hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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| Subject: | Two air compressors in tandem?? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Hal Kempthorne <hal_kempthorne@sbcglobal.net>
We're trying to get 12 SCFM for painting with Sharpe Finex gun. We have two 8
SCFM compressors. If we hook them together we 16 SCFM or at least 12.
Do we need any special arrangement? Is there such a thing as an air check valve
or is it needed?
hal
RV6a
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| Subject: | Re: Two air compressors in tandem?? |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
I've given it a few seconds thought, and can't think of whay it wouldn't
work. However, remember that the 12 CFM isn't how you paint. 12 CFM
(at some designated pressure) is what the gun requires while it's
spraying. You spray a band, lift up on the trigger, and then hit the
trigger again to put down more paint. Depending on the ratio of
'painting' to 'non-painting', your 8 CFM might work by itself, but would
surely slow you down. Having said that, however, you need to 'T' the
two compressors .... tank to tank directly and use one tank to feed the gun.
linn
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Hal Kempthorne wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Hal Kempthorne <hal_kempthorne@sbcglobal.net>
>
>
>We're trying to get 12 SCFM for painting with Sharpe Finex gun. We have two 8
SCFM compressors. If we hook them together we 16 SCFM or at least 12.
>
>Do we need any special arrangement? Is there such a thing as an air check valve
or is it needed?
>
>hal
>
>RV6a
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| Subject: | Two air compressors in tandem?? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com>
Given the intermittent duty cycle for the actual spraying, if you hook
up a storage tank to your single 8cfm compressor, that would probably do
the trick also.
Chuck
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn walters
Subject: Re: RV-List: Two air compressors in tandem??
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
I've given it a few seconds thought, and can't think of whay it wouldn't
work. However, remember that the 12 CFM isn't how you paint. 12 CFM
(at some designated pressure) is what the gun requires while it's
spraying. You spray a band, lift up on the trigger, and then hit the
trigger again to put down more paint. Depending on the ratio of
'painting' to 'non-painting', your 8 CFM might work by itself, but would
surely slow you down. Having said that, however, you need to 'T' the
two compressors .... tank to tank directly and use one tank to feed the
gun.
linn
do not archive
Hal Kempthorne wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Hal Kempthorne
<hal_kempthorne@sbcglobal.net>
>
>
>We're trying to get 12 SCFM for painting with Sharpe Finex gun. We
have two 8 SCFM compressors. If we hook them together we 16 SCFM or at
least 12.
>
>Do we need any special arrangement? Is there such a thing as an air
check valve or is it needed?
>
>hal
>
>RV6a
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Two air compressors in tandem?? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Trainnut01@aol.com
Just connect them tank to tank. They will work fine. I'm using exactly that
setup.
Carroll Jernigan
RV7A Finishing
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--> RV-List message posted by: Mike Parker <mdparker@sisna.com>
In a free market, a seller has the right to sell product for whatever
price he wishes- the cost of raw materials has nothing to do with the
pricing model, but the amount of buyers willing to pay high prices
does.. If you dont like the price, take your business elsewhere- the
overpriced gas will not sell until prices drop. A quick glance at
California several years ago shows how well Governmental price caps work.
Having watched the energy market in detail for some time, all I can say
is get used to these prices- they are going up because world demand is
larger than supply of refined products. If you want to change the
scenario, dump your Lycosaurs and use engines designed to burn auto
fuels- lots more price competition (lower prices) and more supply.
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Glen Matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
Hi All-
First, Do Not Archive.
You know, once upon a time, I had a certain limited amount of sympathy for
the oil industry given the lack of expansion of refining capacity,
significantly increased demand, and the fact that we as a nation still
enjoyed some of the cheapest gas on the planet. Three things have happened
since then to change my perspective. First, the price of fuel started
spiking up and down. This had the effect of somewhat desensitizing us to
changes in fuel costs, while at the same time making it harder for us to
track the actual average cost of the product over time. Second, a friend
who has worked in the field for a long time has gone from being very
defensive of the industry to being very critical of it. Last, I've made
the acquaintance of a fellow who works in the pipeline division for one of
the biggest refiners. All of their fuel comes into our state via pipeline
from Texas, and was in no way affected by Katrina. Yet their pricing
spiked way up in lock step with all the other refiners, on a product that
had been made a while back.
Also, given that demand for gasoline is basically inelastic, the normal
application of supply and demand doesn't apply. People still have to go to
work, the store, etc. There is some flex due to personal conservation, but
a tiny fraction of that which Adam Smith would have predicted. I vote for
gouging and, and will support the purveyor who gives me the best deal.
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| Subject: | Re: Web site change?? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Lockamy, Jack L" <jack.lockamy@navy.mil>
I understand Dan Checkoway and his wife are in Italy on vacation. He may not be
aware his server is down and/or is unable to do anything about it until they
return (1-2 weeks?).
Jack
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| Subject: | Re: Two air compressors in tandem?? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "David Burton" <dburton@nwlink.com>
Or you could try what Sam did:
http://home.hiwaay.net/~sbuc/journal/paint1.html
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| Subject: | Liability Insurance |
--> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
Hi:
Just my comments, I see a lot of people talking about not having
Liability Insurance...etc..
I must be living in a different world....I will give you one example
that happened to us..
One day a neighbor, and friend for many years,,was helping my wife
get the grocery bags, from the car to the house...
The neighborg, triped at the door entrance, she had small scrape on the
knee....a month or so later, to make this short, we got a medical bill
for I think it was $200 or so... now this was at the time when people did not
sued as they do today....
When, my nephew came to see my project at the garage, he bump his head
agains the wing tip, the plane was on the jig....if this had happened with
another visitor... could not be another bill to pay?
Believe me you never had enough protection....
My .02 worth
Bert
rv6a
on my 40hrs.
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| Subject: | Re: Two air compressors in tandem?? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Smitty" <smitty@smittysrv.com>
I recently help frame a house with a big nail gun. We put our 2 small
compressors together and went to town. We built the whole house that way.
No problems.
Smitty
http://www.smittysrv.com
> --> RV-List message posted by: Trainnut01@aol.com
>
> Just connect them tank to tank. They will work fine. I'm using exactly
> that
> setup.
> Carroll Jernigan
> RV7A Finishing
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Anodizining engine baffles |
--> RV-List message posted by: James H Nelson <rv9jim@juno.com>
Dean,
Is any reason to not use powder coating to make them look nice?
JIm Nelson
St. Petersburg
(RV9-A, wiring)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob 1" <rv3a.1@comcast.net>
--> RV-List message posted by: Mike Parker <mdparker@sisna.com>
In a free market, a seller has the right to sell product for whatever
price he wishes- the cost of raw materials has nothing to do with the
pricing model, but the amount of buyers willing to pay high prices
does..
==========================================
Free market.
Where?
A grand total of five oil companies in the U.S. continuing to merge hardly
qualifies as a free market model.
Especially, when they are so friendly with Congress and the Administration.
Do not archive.
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| Subject: | On Vacation - Not RV related |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Don Mack" <don@dmack.net>
I am not intending to flame here, but as one who deals with network
security, email newsgroups, HR, lawyers and the trail that they all leave,
you should avoid publicly stating that someone is on vacation, gone, etc.
etc.
Don Mack - I am not on vacation
-----Original Message-----
Dan Quale and his wife are in Iceland on vacation.
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| Subject: | Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bob <panamared3@brier.net>
>I have a Superior XP-IO360, and they say 91 octane mogas is fine, and in
>fact they encourage it. I plan to use at home airport for those $$$ burgers.
>Cross country, where it could pay off better, mostly unavailable. Totally
>legal
>to use mogas in experimental, btw, IINM...
>
>Jerry Cochran
Jerry
I too have an IO-360 that is rated for 91 octane and it is now fuel
injected (used have a carberator). I have not used auto fuel mainly due to
vapor lock and that is a real problem on hot or even warm days. I get a
lot of surging during taxi back after a few touch and goes. Boost pump on
helps somewhat but it still surges.
Does anyone with fuel injection run auto fuel, and what are the pitfalls to
consider or plan for?
Bob
RV6 NightFighter
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| Subject: | Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Call AFP and order #22 nozzles. You currently have 28's (IO-360). Going to
the smaller nozzle size increases line pressure and lowers the boiling
point. Most injected RV's that I know of suffer from boiling in the
injector lines after landing and this should greatly reduce it.
As far as auto fuel goes. 100LL in one tank and auto fuel in the other.
Take off land with 100LL cruise 65% power or less with auto fuel. Dont
forget transition time with from one fuel to the other.......What would
that be, 8~10 minutes?
At 12:31 PM 9/30/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Bob <panamared3@brier.net>
>
>
> >I have a Superior XP-IO360, and they say 91 octane mogas is fine, and in
> >fact they encourage it. I plan to use at home airport for those $$$ burgers.
> >Cross country, where it could pay off better, mostly unavailable. Totally
> >legal
> >to use mogas in experimental, btw, IINM...
> >
> >Jerry Cochran
>
>Jerry
>
>I too have an IO-360 that is rated for 91 octane and it is now fuel
>injected (used have a carberator). I have not used auto fuel mainly due to
>vapor lock and that is a real problem on hot or even warm days. I get a
>lot of surging during taxi back after a few touch and goes. Boost pump on
>helps somewhat but it still surges.
>
>Does anyone with fuel injection run auto fuel, and what are the pitfalls to
>consider or plan for?
>
>Bob
>RV6 NightFighter
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Builder assistance available |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bud Newhall <RV-6@comcast.net>
Greetings
You want an RV but don't have the time to build it.
I can help.
I am a machinist by trade. I completed an RV-6 in 2200 hrs. (no
prepunced holes) and assisted on 2 others.
I am available to work on a project full time.
I am located in Lodi, CA.
Bud Newhall
RV-6@comcast.net
209-334-2911
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| Subject: | Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>Does anyone with fuel injection run auto fuel, and what are the pitfalls to
>consider or plan for?
This was discussed yesterday at one hangar BS session. Check into
the utility of running 100LL during takeoff/climb/landing and autogas
during cruise (separate tanks of course) or adding perhaps five gallons
of 100LL to a tank of autogas.
Do verify these possible solutions before using them.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection |
--> RV-List message posted by: Michael McGee <jmpcrftr@teleport.com>
Regarding the time it takes for the fuel to get from the valve to the
combustion chamber.
I run an O-320-E2G with carburetor and gascolator with a digital
engine monitor and was running some tests with 100LL in one tank and
regular 87 mogas in the other.
It took less than one (1) minute at full power to see the change on
the engine monitor EGTs after switching the valve from the avgas tank
to the mogas tank. I would expect less time on an injected motor
with no gascolator since you have less volume in the system.
Mike
Mike McGee, RV-4 N996RV, O320-E2G, Hillsboro, OR
13B in gestation mode, RD-1C, EC-2
At 10:23 2005-09-30, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>
>Call AFP and order #22 nozzles. You currently have 28's (IO-360). Going to
>the smaller nozzle size increases line pressure and lowers the boiling
>point. Most injected RV's that I know of suffer from boiling in the
>injector lines after landing and this should greatly reduce it.
>
>As far as auto fuel goes. 100LL in one tank and auto fuel in the other.
>Take off land with 100LL cruise 65% power or less with auto fuel. Dont
>forget transition time with from one fuel to the other.......What would
>that be, 8~10 minutes?
>
>
>At 12:31 PM 9/30/2005 -0500, you wrote:
> >--> RV-List message posted by: Bob <panamared3@brier.net>
> >
> >
> > >I have a Superior XP-IO360, and they say 91 octane mogas is fine, and in
> > >fact they encourage it. I plan to use at home airport for those
> $$$ burgers.
> > >Cross country, where it could pay off better, mostly unavailable. Totally
> > >legal
> > >to use mogas in experimental, btw, IINM...
> > >
> > >Jerry Cochran
> >
> >Jerry
> >
> >I too have an IO-360 that is rated for 91 octane and it is now fuel
> >injected (used have a carberator). I have not used auto fuel mainly due to
> >vapor lock and that is a real problem on hot or even warm days. I get a
> >lot of surging during taxi back after a few touch and goes. Boost pump on
> >helps somewhat but it still surges.
> >
> >Does anyone with fuel injection run auto fuel, and what are the pitfalls to
> >consider or plan for?
> >
> >Bob
> >RV6 NightFighter
> >
> >
>
>
>Scott Bilinski
>Eng dept 305
>Phone (858) 657-2536
>Pager (858) 502-5190
>
>
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| Subject: | Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
I use 87 octane auto fuel (any brand, any place) in my fuel injected rotary (RV-4)
and never have had a hint of vapor lock in 1500+ hours. Not an apples to
apples comparison of course but I add this to emphasize that vapor lock is due
mainly to fuel system design, not the fuel.
No flames intended, but most aircraft fuel systems that I have seen are a "vapor
lock waiting to happen". It only takes a slight change in fuel vapor pressure
to push them over the edge.
Tracy Crook
RV-4 1500+ Hrs
RV-8 R.S.N.
--> RV-List message posted by: Bob <panamared3@brier.net<mailto:panamared3@brier.net>>
>I have a Superior XP-IO360, and they say 91 octane mogas is fine, and in
>fact they encourage it. I plan to use at home airport for those $$$ burgers.
>Cross country, where it could pay off better, mostly unavailable. Totally
>legal
>to use mogas in experimental, btw, IINM...
>
>Jerry Cochran
Jerry
I too have an IO-360 that is rated for 91 octane and it is now fuel
injected (used have a carberator). I have not used auto fuel mainly due to
vapor lock and that is a real problem on hot or even warm days. I get a
lot of surging during taxi back after a few touch and goes. Boost pump on
helps somewhat but it still surges.
Does anyone with fuel injection run auto fuel, and what are the pitfalls to
consider or plan for?
Bob
RV6 NightFighter
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| Subject: | Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
Scott,
I think it is a good idea to have two separate fuels in different tanks for someone
inclined to burn Autogas. But I don't think it would take 8~10mins. to refill
the whole fuel system with the other fuel type.
While I am honestly to lazy to calculate the inside volume of fuel lines and then
compare it to the fuel burn of the engine, I would estimate it to take less
than a minute.
Example:
At just 8 gph you are burning ~1848 cubic inches of fuel per hour, divide by 60
and you are replacing the fuel in the lines at a rate in excess of 30 C.I. per
minute (in this example).
So how many C.I.'s of fuel are in the system all the way to the injectors? How
long does it take in an RV for the engine to catch again after one runs a tank
completely dry and then switches to the (hopefully) fuller tank ???
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Bilinski
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Call AFP and order #22 nozzles. You currently have 28's (IO-360). Going to
the smaller nozzle size increases line pressure and lowers the boiling
point. Most injected RV's that I know of suffer from boiling in the
injector lines after landing and this should greatly reduce it.
As far as auto fuel goes. 100LL in one tank and auto fuel in the other.
Take off land with 100LL cruise 65% power or less with auto fuel. Dont
forget transition time with from one fuel to the other.......What would
that be, 8~10 minutes?
At 12:31 PM 9/30/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Bob <panamared3@brier.net>
>
>
> >I have a Superior XP-IO360, and they say 91 octane mogas is fine, and in
> >fact they encourage it. I plan to use at home airport for those $$$ burgers.
> >Cross country, where it could pay off better, mostly unavailable. Totally
> >legal
> >to use mogas in experimental, btw, IINM...
> >
> >Jerry Cochran
>
>Jerry
>
>I too have an IO-360 that is rated for 91 octane and it is now fuel
>injected (used have a carberator). I have not used auto fuel mainly due to
>vapor lock and that is a real problem on hot or even warm days. I get a
>lot of surging during taxi back after a few touch and goes. Boost pump on
>helps somewhat but it still surges.
>
>Does anyone with fuel injection run auto fuel, and what are the pitfalls to
>consider or plan for?
>
>Bob
>RV6 NightFighter
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel PricingFuel Pricing |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JT" <JohnTuck@tellicorealty.com>
Slightly off topic too...
I am in the process of completing a grass strip in East TN and plan on building
a Hanger. I would appreicate comments on hangers, building suppliers etc. What
works well and what doesn't.
you can reply on list or off
Thanks,
John
johntuck@tellicorealty.com
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| Subject: | Double Eagle (AEG - Albuquerque NM) Fly-in 8-9 Oct 2005 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
Double Eagle Fly-in
8-9 October 2005
Where: Albuquerque NM Double Eagle II airport (KAEG);
<http://www.airnav.com/airport/KAEG>http://www.airnav.com/airport/KAEG
Fly-in principles: No scheduled events. Nice area with a variety of
events to keep spouses happy. The main attraction is the Balloon
Fiesta that ends on 9 Oct. Intended for a quick weekend getaway.
FBO: Bode
Aero:
<http://www.flybode.com/deairport.htm>http://www.flybode.com/deairport.htm
Airport restaurant: Prop Wash Caf=E9, 505-831-2359
Cost: No registration fee. Attendees are responsible for hotel
and car reservations. The FBO suggested making car reservations
through them (505-352-0292 or 877-384-9813). Possible $10 a night
tie-down fee.
Miscellaneous: Bring your own tiedown ropes/straps/etc. They have
tie-downs but having your own is a good backup. Please email
<mailto:ronlee@pcisys.net>ronlee@pcisys.net if you intend to come to
ensure that ramp space does
not become a problem. Non-RV aircraft welcome. No camping on the
airport.
Aviation issues: Note that the edge of the Albuquerque airspace is almost
on top of AEG. Mountains are nearby. Density altitude can be high so
understand impact to flight (such as engine mixture leaning and higher
take-off and landing ground speeds).
Runway 17/35 is closed until further notice.
The view of Bode as you leave Runway 12/30 is shown below:
http://www.pcisys.net/~ronlee/AEGFlyin/AEG_Arrival.jpg
As you enter the ramp area, parking is to your right as shown below:
http://www.pcisys.net/~ronlee/AEGFlyin/AEG_Parking.jpg
Contact Bode on the Unicom for parking assistance.
Hotels: Many in the Albuquerque area. Those listed below were checked
27-28 June 2005. Strongly suggest making reservations as early as possible.
Hotels listed below in three groups based upon distance from airport (AEG)
and the balloon park. This is nowhere near a complete listing. Another
source for making reservations is
here: <http://www.nmtravel.com/bfres/>http://www.nmtravel.com/bfres/ or
888-398-5537 (Press 2 for reservations). Most prices exclude taxes. In
general I tried to price a single bed (usually king) and two adults.
I made a new hotel reservation on 29 Sep so rooms are available.
Group 1: Reasonably close to the balloon park on the north end of town (I-25)
Comfort Inn, 5811 Signal Ave NE, Albuquerque, NM 87113, (505) 822-1090, $125
Ramada Limited, 5601 Alameda Blvd NE, Albuquerque, NM 87113, (505)
858-3297, $139
Holiday Inn, 5401 Alameda Blvd NE, Albuquerque, NM 87113, (505) 797-2291, Full
Courtyard, 5151 Journal Center Blvd NE, Albuquerque, NM 87109, (505)
823-1919, $169
Albuquerque Pyramid Marriott, 5151 San Francisco Rd NE, Albuquerque,
NM 87109, (505) 821-3333, $189
Country Inn/Suites, 7620 N Pan American Fwy NE, Albuquerque, NM 87109,
(505) 823-1300, from $110
Howard Johnson Express Inn, 7630 N Pan American Fwy NE, Albuquerque,
NM 87109, (505) 828-1600, $115
Baymont Inns and Suites, 7439 S Pan American Fwy NE, Albuquerque,
NM 87109, (505) 345-7500, $70
Hampton Inn, 5101 Ellison St NE, Albuquerque, NM 87109, (505) 344-1555, $134
Quality Suites, 5251 San Antonio Dr NE, Albuquerque, NM 87109, (505)
797-0850, Full
La Quinta Inn, 5241 San Antonio Dr NE, Albuquerque, NM 87109, (505)
821-9000, $139
Group 2: Rio Rancho area to NW of Balloon Park (6-7 miles)
Days Inn Rio Rancho, 4200 Crestview Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124, (505)
892-8800, $90
Ramada Limited, 4081 High Resort Blvd SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124, (505)
892-5998, $100 (limited rooms)
Super 8 Rio Rancho, 4100 Barbara Loop SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124, (505)
896-8888, $95
Best Western Inn, 1465 Rio Rancho Blvd SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124, (505)
892-1700, Full
Hilton, 1771 Rio Rancho Blvd SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124, (505) 896-1111, $129
Marriott, 4100 Sara Rd SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124
Group 3: 12 miles from the airport (KAEG) (south of I-40 at Exit 153) and
about 13 miles to the Balloon Park near I-25 exit 233 (north part of
Albuquerque)
La Quinta, 6101 Iliff Rd NW, Albuquerque, NM 87121, (505) 839-1744, $140
Holiday Inn Express- West, 6100 Iliff Rd NW, Albuquerque, NM 87121, (505)
836-8600, $120
Super 8, 6030 Iliff Rd NW=92 Albuquerque, NM 87121, (505) 836-5560, $54
Days Inn =96 Albuquerque West, 6031 Iliff Rd NW, Albuquerque, NM 87121, (505)
836-3297, $89-$99
Comfort Inn West, 5712 Iliff Rd NW, Albuquerque, NM 87105, (505) 836-0011,
$115
Red Roof, 6015 Iliff Rd NW, Albuquerque, NM 87121, (505) 831-3400, $70
Rental Cars: Bode Aero uses Enterprise, 505-922-1440, Midsize $43,
Standard $46, Full $49. Make a reservation to ensure car is there when
you arrive. Bode recommended that you make the car reservation through
them.
Things to do:
1) Balloon
Fiesta: <http://www.balloonfiesta.com/>http://www.balloonfiesta.com/
Saturday night has a balloon glow and fireworks with a mass ascension
Sunday morning. Schedule at
<http://www.balloonfiesta.com/scripts/index/list_events_total.php>http://www.balloonfiesta.com/scripts/index/list_events_total.php
2) Sante Fe is close to the
north. <http://www.airnav.com/airport/KSAF>http://www.airnav.com/airport/KSAF
Sante Fe website at <http://www.santafe.org/>http://www.santafe.org/
3) Petroglyph National
Monument: <http://www.nps.gov/petr/>http://www.nps.gov/petr/
4) Hiking in Albuquerque:
<http://www.localhikes.com/MSA/MSA_0200.asp>http://www.localhikes.com/MSA/MSA_0200.asp
http://www.trails.com/advancedfind.asp?keywordAlbuquerque&stateNM&activities&page1
<http://www.cabq.gov/openspace/lands.html>http://www.cabq.gov/openspace/lands.html
5) Sandia Peak Tram: <http://www.sandiapeak.com/>http://www.sandiapeak.com/
Bike rentals to ride down the mountain.
6) Albuquerque Visitors
Website: <http://www.abqcvb.org/>http://www.abqcvb.org/
Note: Balloon Fiesta is a trademark of the Albuquerque International
Balloon Fiesta, Inc
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| Subject: | Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>How long does it take in an RV for the engine to catch again after one
>runs a tank completely dry and then switches to the (hopefully) fuller tank ???
It is less than 30 seconds...perhaps closer to 10.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel PricingFuel Pricing |
--> RV-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
Where's the strip going to be located, John?
Mine's here: www.airnav.com/airports/12VA
but we're in Nashville right now for a conference (the RV's tied down at M54).
I did a DIY pole building with concrete floor added later; steel side and roof
panels, 6x6 and 2x4 purlins; works well enough.
We lived in Chattanooga and Monteagle in the 80's; fond memories of eastern TN.
I wasn't a pilot then.
-Stormy
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: JT <JohnTuck@tellicorealty.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel PricingFuel Pricing
--> RV-List message posted by: "JT" <JohnTuck@tellicorealty.com>
Slightly off topic too...
I am in the process of completing a grass strip in East TN and plan on building
a Hanger. I would appreicate comments on hangers, building suppliers etc. What
works well and what doesn't.
you can reply on list or off
Thanks,
John
johntuck@tellicorealty.com
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| Subject: | Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
Thanks Ron,
Therefore switching from the MoGas-Tank to the 100LL-Tank should not take to long
at all at altitude (depending on current power setting of course!).
Starting the engine and warming it up on Mogas and then switching over to 100LL
for runup and subsequent takeoff MAY take a little bit longer, so be careful
and cautious!!!
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Lee
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>How long does it take in an RV for the engine to catch again after one
>runs a tank completely dry and then switches to the (hopefully) fuller tank
???
It is less than 30 seconds...perhaps closer to 10.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Frank Stringham" <fstringham@hotmail.com>
Tracy
What should be done with the system to or failure points to look for as onbe
fabs. the fuel lines.
TIA
Frank @ SGU and SLC
>From: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection
>Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 14:27:50 -0400
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
>
>I use 87 octane auto fuel (any brand, any place) in my fuel injected rotary
>(RV-4) and never have had a hint of vapor lock in 1500+ hours. Not an
>apples to apples comparison of course but I add this to emphasize that
>vapor lock is due mainly to fuel system design, not the fuel.
>
>No flames intended, but most aircraft fuel systems that I have seen are a
>"vapor lock waiting to happen". It only takes a slight change in fuel
>vapor pressure to push them over the edge.
>
>Tracy Crook
>RV-4 1500+ Hrs
>RV-8 R.S.N.
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Bob
><panamared3@brier.net<mailto:panamared3@brier.net>>
>
>
> >I have a Superior XP-IO360, and they say 91 octane mogas is fine, and
>in
> >fact they encourage it. I plan to use at home airport for those $$$
>burgers.
> >Cross country, where it could pay off better, mostly unavailable.
>Totally
> >legal
> >to use mogas in experimental, btw, IINM...
> >
> >Jerry Cochran
>
> Jerry
>
> I too have an IO-360 that is rated for 91 octane and it is now fuel
> injected (used have a carberator). I have not used auto fuel mainly due
>to
> vapor lock and that is a real problem on hot or even warm days. I get a
> lot of surging during taxi back after a few touch and goes. Boost pump
>on
> helps somewhat but it still surges.
>
> Does anyone with fuel injection run auto fuel, and what are the pitfalls
>to
> consider or plan for?
>
> Bob
> RV6 NightFighter
>
>
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| Subject: | Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection |
--> RV-List message posted by: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org>
Maybe this is a dumb question, but I thought there were longevity issues
with running leaded fuel through an engine that was used to unleaded and
vice versa due to the way they lead builds up on the valve seats... are
there any other issues with randomly switching back and forth between
the two grades / lead content?
James
Konrad L. Werner wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
>
>Thanks Ron,
>
>Therefore switching from the MoGas-Tank to the 100LL-Tank should not take to long
at all at altitude (depending on current power setting of course!).
>Starting the engine and warming it up on Mogas and then switching over to 100LL
for runup and subsequent takeoff MAY take a little bit longer, so be careful
and cautious!!!
>
>do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ron Lee
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 1:13 PM
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>
>
> >How long does it take in an RV for the engine to catch again after one
> >runs a tank completely dry and then switches to the (hopefully) fuller tank
???
>
> It is less than 30 seconds...perhaps closer to 10.
>
> Ron Lee
>
>
> --
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Any relation to Ochs oil in North San Diego?
As far as lead goes in 100LL:
http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182149-1.html
At 01:00 PM 9/30/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org>
>
>Maybe this is a dumb question, but I thought there were longevity issues
>with running leaded fuel through an engine that was used to unleaded and
>vice versa due to the way they lead builds up on the valve seats... are
>there any other issues with randomly switching back and forth between
>the two grades / lead content?
>
>James
>
>Konrad L. Werner wrote:
>
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
> >
> >Thanks Ron,
> >
> >Therefore switching from the MoGas-Tank to the 100LL-Tank should not
> take to long at all at altitude (depending on current power setting of
> course!).
> >Starting the engine and warming it up on Mogas and then switching over
> to 100LL for runup and subsequent takeoff MAY take a little bit longer,
> so be careful and cautious!!!
> >
> >do not archive
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Ron Lee
> > To: rv-list@matronics.com
> > Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 1:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: RV-List: Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection
> >
> >
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
> >
> >
> > >How long does it take in an RV for the engine to catch again after one
> > >runs a tank completely dry and then switches to the (hopefully)
> fuller tank ???
> >
> > It is less than 30 seconds...perhaps closer to 10.
> >
> > Ron Lee
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: On Vacation - Not RV related |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob 1" <rv3a.1@comcast.net>
I am not intending to flame here, but as one who deals with network
security, email newsgroups, HR, lawyers and the trail that they all leave,
you should avoid publicly stating that someone is on vacation, gone, etc.
etc.
Don Mack - I am not on vacation
Dan Quale and his wife are in Iceland on vacation.
===================================
<tongue deeply in cheek>
Woe be it if Dan's residence now gets ransacked.
Bob - No vacation in DC for me.
Do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection |
--> RV-List message posted by: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org>
No relation that I'm aware of ;)
Good info on that page. Thanks for the reference!
James
Scott Bilinski wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>
>Any relation to Ochs oil in North San Diego?
>
>As far as lead goes in 100LL:
>http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182149-1.html
>
>
>At 01:00 PM 9/30/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org>
>>
>>Maybe this is a dumb question, but I thought there were longevity issues
>>with running leaded fuel through an engine that was used to unleaded and
>>vice versa due to the way they lead builds up on the valve seats... are
>>there any other issues with randomly switching back and forth between
>>the two grades / lead content?
>>
>>James
>>
>>Konrad L. Werner wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
>>>
>>>Thanks Ron,
>>>
>>>Therefore switching from the MoGas-Tank to the 100LL-Tank should not
>>>
>>>
>>take to long at all at altitude (depending on current power setting of
>>course!).
>>
>>
>>>Starting the engine and warming it up on Mogas and then switching over
>>>
>>>
>>to 100LL for runup and subsequent takeoff MAY take a little bit longer,
>>so be careful and cautious!!!
>>
>>
>>>do not archive
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Ron Lee
>>> To: rv-list@matronics.com
>>> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 1:13 PM
>>> Subject: Re: RV-List: Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection
>>>
>>>
>>> --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>>>
>>>
>>> >How long does it take in an RV for the engine to catch again after one
>>> >runs a tank completely dry and then switches to the (hopefully)
>>>
>>>
>>fuller tank ???
>>
>>
>>> It is less than 30 seconds...perhaps closer to 10.
>>>
>>> Ron Lee
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>Scott Bilinski
>Eng dept 305
>Phone (858) 657-2536
>Pager (858) 502-5190
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Pricing |
--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
Hello Lister's,
I will vote for gouging on this issue. The profit to be taken on gas should be
calculated based on the cost of the product delivered and put in the storage tank.
To speculate on an increase will only drive the price higher in the area.
If the cost goes up on the next delivery again the profit to be taken should
be calculated based on the cost of the product. If you raise the price due to
speculation and the cost goes down, how do you refund the money to the consumer
that you just gouged them out of? It's all a part of being in business. Yes,
I understand that the next delivery may cost you more. It could also cost you
less. You will get the return when you sell that product along with a profit.
There are meters that tell them how much goes in and out of their tanks. They
have the sales information to know when the price should be adjusted up or down.
If a business owner is that cash poor needing to gouge the consumer in hopes
to help pay for the next load of fuel then they ne
ed to
find another business. IMHO...
Darrell ;-)
(do not archive)
ejcek <aerobubba@earthlink.net> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: "Glen Matejcek"
Hi All-
First, Do Not Archive.
You know, once upon a time, I had a certain limited amount of sympathy for
the oil industry given the lack of expansion of refining capacity,
significantly increased demand, and the fact that we as a nation still
enjoyed some of the cheapest gas on the planet. Three things have happened
since then to change my perspective. First, the price of fuel started
spiking up and down. This had the effect of somewhat desensitizing us to
changes in fuel costs, while at the same time making it harder for us to
track the actual average cost of the product over time. Second, a friend
who has worked in the field for a long time has gone from being very
defensive of the industry to being very critical of it. Last, I've made
the acquaintance of a fellow who works in the pipeline division for one of
the biggest refiners. All of their fuel comes into our state via pipeline
from Texas, and was in no way affected by Katrina. Yet their pricing
spiked way up in lock step with all the other refiners, on a product that
had been made a while back.
Also, given that demand for gasoline is basically inelastic, the normal
application of supply and demand doesn't apply. People still have to go to
work, the store, etc. There is some flex due to personal conservation, but
a tiny fraction of that which Adam Smith would have predicted. I vote for
gouging and, and will support the purveyor who gives me the best deal.
---------------------------------
Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for RV-4 prop |
--> RV-List message posted by: UFOBUCK@aol.com
Has your friend found a useable prop ?? If not I likely have the one he
needs. Off of my 150 hp RV-6A.
B.Clary
Ufobuck@aol.com
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| Subject: | Re: Where to buy the honeycomb that is in our cowlings? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Brian Alley <n320wt@yahoo.com>
I often see small sizes of Hexcell Nomex Honeycomb on Ebaymotors under aviation
parts. You'll likely pay cut yard prices but if you only need small quanities
it might work out. I use Coremat in cowlings I make and sell available at the
link below. Coremat works great and does what Nomex does for a lot less money.
I make carbon fiber cowlings that weigh less than half the weight of the glass
parts.
http://www.uscomposites.com/specialty.html
BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT)
CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES
101 Caroline Circle
Hurricane, WV 25526
304-562-6800 home
304-395-4932 cell
How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck?
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| Subject: | Re: On Vacation - Not RV related |
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Matt Johnson" <matt@n559rv.com>
I would like to think the class of people who would be on this list are higher
than that. This is not exactly a hobby for the low income
sorts who tend to lead lives of crime...
Then again, after further consideration, the cost of this hobby lead some to crime...
:-/
- Matt
-----Original Message-----
From: "Bob 1" <rv3a.1@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: On Vacation - Not RV related
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob 1" <rv3a.1@comcast.net>
>
> I am not intending to flame here, but as one who deals with network
> security, email newsgroups, HR, lawyers and the trail that they all
> leave,
> you should avoid publicly stating that someone is on vacation, gone,
> etc.
> etc.
>
> Don Mack - I am not on vacation
>
>
> Dan Quale and his wife are in Iceland on vacation.
>
> ===================================
>
> <tongue deeply in cheek>
>
> Woe be it if Dan's residence now gets ransacked.
>
>
> Bob - No vacation in DC for me.
>
> Do not archive.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: On Vacation - Not RV related |
--> RV-List message posted by: bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net
Anybody who goes to rvproject.com can surely figure out Dan is never home. (g)
do not archive
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob 1"
>
> I am not intending to flame here, but as one who deals with network
> security, email newsgroups, HR, lawyers and the trail that they all leave,
> you should avoid publicly stating that someone is on vacation, gone, etc.
> etc.
>
> Don Mack - I am not on vacation
>
Anybody who goes to rvproject.com can surely figure out Dan is never home. (g)
do not archive
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-- RV-List message posted by: "Bob 1" <RV3A.1@COMCAST.NET>
I am not intending to flame here, but as one who deals with network
security, email newsgroups, HR, lawyers and the trail that they all leave,
you should avoid publicly stating that someone is on vacation, gone, etc.
etc.
Don Mack - I am not on vacation
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| Subject: | Anywhere map or TrueFlight? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bordelon, Greg" <gbordelon@hess.com>
Wanted to know if anyone has been using this product?
http://www.aviationsafety.com/fl_210.htm
Experiences? Comments??
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Young
Subject: RE: RV-List: Anywhere map?
--> RV-List message posted by: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com>
I know it will run on the HP4705 Ipaq 'cause they used it in their demo
at SnF. Probably needs a hi-res PDA like the 4705 though. I was very
impressed with the MountainScope product and the folks behind it. They
exude the same kind of quiet technical competence I see from Greg Toman
and Grand Rapids. I'll likely switch to them if I talk myself out of the
396.
Greg Young
________________________________
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling"
--> <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
I dont think mountain scope can run on a pda.
do not archive
Shemp/Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
235 hours
Chicago/Louisville
----- Original Message -----
> --> RV-List message posted by: David Leonard <wdleonard@gmail.com>
>
> Visibility is not as good as some of the aviation handhelds, but that
> is its only draw-back. Still usable in any amount of daylight, I
> really love the following features:
> Easy to upgrade software and database
> Flight planning where ever you are - I use my iPaq at work all the
> time You already know how to use it.
> Versatile GPS options
> If you are considering iPaq also look into MountainScope software:
> http://www.pcavionics.com/custserv/index.jsp
> The 3-d terrain is simply unsurpassed and most other features are
> about like anywhere map. Same Price.
>
> --
> Dave Leonard
> Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
> http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html
> http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html
> On 9/18/05, bill shook <billshook2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
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| Subject: | Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>Starting the engine and warming it up on Mogas and then switching over to
>100LL for runup and subsequent takeoff MAY take a little bit longer, so be
>careful and cautious!!!
Personally, I takeoff on the tank that I start with, taxi and perform the
runup.
Just a better belief that any possible contaminant is already gone before
takeoff. That may be unnecessary but I have to have my quirks.
Ron Lee
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: On Vacation - Not RV related (not processed: message from |
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Rob Prior (rv7)" <rv7@b4.ca>
On 15:30:32 2005-09-30 "Matt Johnson" <matt@n559rv.com> wrote:
> I would like to think the class of people who would be on this list
> are higher than that. This is not exactly a hobby for the low income
> sorts who tend to lead lives of crime...
>
> Then again, after further consideration, the cost of this hobby lead
> some to crime... :-/
Well, an RV-4 owner here in BC was busted for running weed across the
border to the US. Apparently he would fill the tail-cone, and fly low
across the border to an unmarked field to drop off the load.
I don't think he built the airplane, so he may never have hung out here on
the RV-Lists.
-Rob
PS - The rest of the story: He did serve time, was released, and
immediately went about shopping for a new airplane. Two years later, he
was spotted on one of the San Juan islands in a Citabria with a US
registration that looked a little jinky. When approached by the customs
agent, he took off, and flew back to BC. He landed and took off at three
airports after that, each time leaving just as the police arrived. At a
couple of the airports he was spotted removing something from the side of
the plane. Turned out to be the fake "US" registration. The plane finally
came down somewhere near Kamloops, after being observed flying low and
throwing bags out of the plane (the bags were not recovered). He ran out
of gas and had to put it down in a field. Police are investigating. The
Citabria was purchased only a week or two before this incident.
PS2 - The RV-4 was siezed when he was busted the first time, and sold by
the RCMP at auction. It was flown here in BC for a year or two, and then
sold to an owner in the US. As far as I know, it's still flying.
Hopefully legally...
do not archive
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| Subject: | Liability Insurance |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill Schlatterer" <billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net>
Wouldn't home owners cover that just like it would have the neighbor ladies
lumps if they had been expensive?
Bill S
do not archive.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
bertrv6@highstream.net
Subject: RV-List: Liability Insurance
--> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
Hi:
Just my comments, I see a lot of people talking about not having
Liability Insurance...etc..
I must be living in a different world....I will give you one example
that happened to us..
One day a neighbor, and friend for many years,,was helping my wife
get the grocery bags, from the car to the house...
The neighborg, triped at the door entrance, she had small scrape on the
knee....a month or so later, to make this short, we got a medical bill
for I think it was $200 or so... now this was at the time when people did
not
sued as they do today....
When, my nephew came to see my project at the garage, he bump his head
agains the wing tip, the plane was on the jig....if this had happened with
another visitor... could not be another bill to pay?
Believe me you never had enough protection....
My .02 worth
Bert
rv6a
on my 40hrs.
Do Not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Liability Insurance |
--> RV-List message posted by: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org>
Check your policy... a lot of them specifically exclude airplane parts,
or so I'm told.
James
Bill Schlatterer wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill Schlatterer" <billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net>
>
>Wouldn't home owners cover that just like it would have the neighbor ladies
>lumps if they had been expensive?
>
>Bill S
>
>do not archive.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
>bertrv6@highstream.net
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Liability Insurance
>
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
>
>
> Hi:
>
>
> Just my comments, I see a lot of people talking about not having
>Liability Insurance...etc..
>
> I must be living in a different world....I will give you one example
>that happened to us..
>
> One day a neighbor, and friend for many years,,was helping my wife
>get the grocery bags, from the car to the house...
>
> The neighborg, triped at the door entrance, she had small scrape on the
>knee....a month or so later, to make this short, we got a medical bill
>for I think it was $200 or so... now this was at the time when people did
>not
>sued as they do today....
>
>
> When, my nephew came to see my project at the garage, he bump his head
>agains the wing tip, the plane was on the jig....if this had happened with
>another visitor... could not be another bill to pay?
>
> Believe me you never had enough protection....
>
>
>My .02 worth
>Bert
>
>rv6a
>on my 40hrs.
>
>Do Not archive
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | anodizing engine baffles |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dean Pichon" <deanpichon@msn.com>
Hi Tom,
Your post has certainly generated lots of interest. I anodized the baffles
in my -4. During construction, I brought the baffles, and half a dozen
"firewall forward parts to a local plater and had everything gold anodized.
My -4 is just over 4 years old and has about 300 hours on it. After about
150 hours I noticed a crack along a bend-line in the baffle section where my
oil cooler mounts. I attribute this cracking (rightly or wrongly) to the
vibration associated with the heavy oil cooler. I cut-out the damaged
baffle section and replaced it with a piece of extruded angle. I did not
follow Van's advice and mount the cooler to the firewall as a -4 has so
little space on the firewall. To date, I have found no other cracks.
Interestingly, I have cracked two mounting plates used to attach the airbox
to the Airflow Performance fuel injection system. The first two plates were
(0.060") anodized. The third plate I ordered from Van's was not anodized,
so I simply alodined it and installed it (less than 50 hours ago). I made a
few mods to the way the airbox is mounted in the hopes of extending the life
of this part, so I will never know if alodining this part has improved its
service life.
All that being said, I am very happy with my anodized parts (baffles, spar,
etc.) and would not hesitate to continue the use of anodized parts in my
aircraft.
Good luck,
Dean Pichon
RV-4
300 hours
Bolton, MA
----Original Message Follows----
From: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
Subject: RV-List: anodizing engine baffles
--> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
I am just starting on my engine baffles. I saw another builder's plane
which had the baffles blue anodized and it looks good. However,
anodizing hardens the surface and might make it more prone to crack.
I'm just guessing here.
Does any one have any experience with this? Are there planes with
hundreds of hours on them with anodized baffled that haven't cracked?
--
Tom Sargent, RV-6A, engine
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| Subject: | Liability Insurance |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
All the homeowners policies I've seen specifically name aircraft parts as a
non covered item for loss coverage. Someone hurt in your shop would still be
covered by liability, whether you're working on airplane or car parts, makes
no difference.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Ochs
Subject: Re: RV-List: Liability Insurance
--> RV-List message posted by: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org>
Check your policy... a lot of them specifically exclude airplane parts,
or so I'm told.
James
Bill Schlatterer wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Bill Schlatterer"
<billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net>
>
>Wouldn't home owners cover that just like it would have the neighbor ladies
>lumps if they had been expensive?
>
>Bill S
>
>do not archive.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
>bertrv6@highstream.net
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Liability Insurance
>
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
>
>
> Hi:
>
>
> Just my comments, I see a lot of people talking about not having
>Liability Insurance...etc..
>
> I must be living in a different world....I will give you one example
>that happened to us..
>
> One day a neighbor, and friend for many years,,was helping my wife
>get the grocery bags, from the car to the house...
>
> The neighborg, triped at the door entrance, she had small scrape on the
>knee....a month or so later, to make this short, we got a medical bill
>for I think it was $200 or so... now this was at the time when people did
>not
>sued as they do today....
>
>
> When, my nephew came to see my project at the garage, he bump his head
>agains the wing tip, the plane was on the jig....if this had happened with
>another visitor... could not be another bill to pay?
>
> Believe me you never had enough protection....
>
>
>My .02 worth
>Bert
>
>rv6a
>on my 40hrs.
>
>Do Not archive
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Liability Insurance |
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 9/30/2005 8:04:11 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
bertrv6@highstream.net writes:
I must be living in a different world....I will give you one example
that happened to us..
One day a neighbor, and friend for many years,,was helping my wife
get the grocery bags, from the car to the house...
The neighbor, tripped at the door entrance, she had small scrape on the
knee....a month or so later, to make this short, we got a medical bill
for I think it was $200 or so... now this was at the time when people did not
sued as they do today....
==================================
This is one thing wrong with America today IMO, no personal responsibility,
and do not archive this drivel. Your neighbor should watch his step and he
should have his own medical insurance. If you did not present an unsafe
property situation (steps don't count as negligence) then it is not your fault.
Stuff happens. Same for your nephew. Sorry, but that's the truth, although
lawyers may suggest otherwise..
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 765hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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| Subject: | Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski
> --> <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>
> Call AFP and order #22 nozzles. You currently have 28's
> (IO-360). Going to the smaller nozzle size increases line
> pressure and lowers the boiling point. Most injected RV's
> that I know of suffer from boiling in the injector lines
> after landing and this should greatly reduce it.
One caution here - be sure to check the full throttle fuel flow after
changing the nozzles, to be sure that peak flow rate has not been
compromised. The Airflow Performance system will compensate for some
limited amount of nozzle pressure increase, as it compares mass flow rates
of the air and fuel.
Alex Peterson
RV6-A N66AP 667 hours
Maple Grove, MN
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