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1. 08:59 AM - Re: Dreaming of a tandem? (Marty)
2. 09:00 AM - Re: List responses (Marty)
3. 10:37 AM - Re: Dreaming of a tandem? (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
4. 11:21 AM - Re: Dreaming of a tandem? (Scott Bilinski)
5. 11:50 AM - Re: Dreaming of a tandem? (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
6. 12:48 PM - Re: Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection (Tracy Crook)
7. 01:17 PM - First Flight of Honolulu RV-6A (Greg Grigson)
8. 01:31 PM - Zero Thrust (Richard Dudley)
9. 02:10 PM - Re: First Flight of Honolulu RV-6A (Mickey Coggins)
10. 03:06 PM - Re: Zero Thrust (Ron Lee)
11. 03:14 PM - Re: Zero Thrust (Kevin Horton)
12. 04:26 PM - Re: Zero Thrust (MLWynn@aol.com)
13. 04:54 PM - Canopy Part Numbers (JTAnon@aol.com)
14. 05:12 PM - Re: Zero Thrust (Charlie England)
15. 06:17 PM - Re: Zero Thrust (Jeff Point)
16. 07:04 PM - Re: Anywhere map or TrueFlight? (Jeff Dowling)
17. 07:46 PM - Re: Dreaming of a tandem? (Steven DiNieri)
18. 07:46 PM - MT Propeller 183-59 Blade Exchange Offer (LessDragProd@aol.com)
19. 08:14 PM - Re: Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection (Vanremog@aol.com)
20. 11:27 PM - Re: Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection (Rob Prior (rv7))
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| Subject: | Dreaming of a tandem? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Marty" <martorious@earthlink.net>
Mike,
Do you have pics or a link for the mirrors?
Thanks,
Marty in Indiana
RV-8A Preview plans in Hand
do not archive
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
>server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)
>Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:17 AM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV-List: Dreaming of a tandem?
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
><mstewart@iss.net>
>
>The little rear view mirrors helped a lot. Made her feel like she was
>up
>front.
>Do not archive
>Mike
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Marty" <martorious@earthlink.net>
This is exactly why some questions need and should be re-asked. New
techniques, products or eyes might reveal answers not included in the
archives.
Marty in Indiana
RV-8A Preview plans in Hand
do not archive
>Also my 1994 version of the RV is not even offered by Van at this
>time. I
>could gladly tell some RV-10 builder how to do it the way I did it on
>a
>RV6, but what value would that be?
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| Subject: | Dreaming of a tandem? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
No but I promise to take some. Several have asked off line about them.
Ill post a note when I get the pics posted.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marty
Subject: RE: RV-List: Dreaming of a tandem?
--> RV-List message posted by: "Marty" <martorious@earthlink.net>
Mike,
Do you have pics or a link for the mirrors?
Thanks,
Marty in Indiana
RV-8A Preview plans in Hand
do not archive
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
>server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)
>Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:17 AM
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV-List: Dreaming of a tandem?
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
><mstewart@iss.net>
>
>The little rear view mirrors helped a lot. Made her feel like she was
>up
>front.
>Do not archive
>Mike
>
>
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| Subject: | Dreaming of a tandem? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
I have been looking or mirrors for my 8 and have not found any that I like
so a supplier would also be great.
At 01:36 PM 10/4/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
><mstewart@iss.net>
>
>No but I promise to take some. Several have asked off line about them.
>Ill post a note when I get the pics posted.
>
>Mike
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marty
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV-List: Dreaming of a tandem?
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Marty" <martorious@earthlink.net>
>
>Mike,
>
>Do you have pics or a link for the mirrors?
>
>Thanks,
>Marty in Indiana
>RV-8A Preview plans in Hand
>do not archive
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
> >server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)
> >Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:17 AM
> >To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: RE: RV-List: Dreaming of a tandem?
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
> ><mstewart@iss.net>
> >
> >The little rear view mirrors helped a lot. Made her feel like she was
> >up
> >front.
> >Do not archive
> >Mike
> >
> >
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Dreaming of a tandem? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
I know I got them at AutoZone
I poked around on their website and could not find them.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Bilinski
Subject: RE: RV-List: Dreaming of a tandem?
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski
<bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
I have been looking or mirrors for my 8 and have not found any that I
like
so a supplier would also be great.
At 01:36 PM 10/4/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
><mstewart@iss.net>
>
>No but I promise to take some. Several have asked off line about them.
>Ill post a note when I get the pics posted.
>
>Mike
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marty
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV-List: Dreaming of a tandem?
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Marty" <martorious@earthlink.net>
>
>Mike,
>
>Do you have pics or a link for the mirrors?
>
>Thanks,
>Marty in Indiana
>RV-8A Preview plans in Hand
>do not archive
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
> >server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)
> >Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:17 AM
> >To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: RE: RV-List: Dreaming of a tandem?
> >
> >--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
> ><mstewart@iss.net>
> >
> >The little rear view mirrors helped a lot. Made her feel like she was
> >up
> >front.
> >Do not archive
> >Mike
> >
> >
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com>
I agree that the gascollator may be un-needed (as long as you have good tank drains).
It was left over from my old carburetor fuel system and kept for the filter
screen in it (and partly because of its sacred-cow status). It is a good
idea to have a relatively coarse filter to screen out the big chunks before
the fuel pumps.
The fine filter (EFI high pressure & flow type) is just before the injector fuel
rails. Pressure gauge tap should be on the down stream end of final filter
too (saved my butt once). I occasionally find a small trace of water in the
gascollator but OTOH the same is true of my tank drains even though I don't keep
the tanks topped off.
Tracy
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch<mailto:mick-matronics@rv8.ch>>
> 2. Keep as much of the system as possible cool. Gascollator on
> lower firewall near exhaust system is both normal practice and
> insane. Mine is in the cockpit with a remote drain under the belly.
Hi Tracy,
Thanks for the info. We spoke briefly at SNF about your fuel
system, but I didn't realize you have a gascolator. Do you
often find water there? I was under the impression that
a gascolator was not needed in EFI applications, based on
articles like this:
http://www.rv8.ch/staticpages/index.php?page20030914230507849<http://www.rv8.ch/staticpages/index.php?page20030914230507849>
Are you planning on a gascolator in your 8?
I certainly bow to your vast experience in this domain, and
appreciate the opportunity to benefit from your experience.
Best regards,
Mickey
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/<http://www.rv8.ch/>
#82007 finishing
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| Subject: | First Flight of Honolulu RV-6A |
--> RV-List message posted by: Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com>
N-79PT took it's first flight at 0732 HST from runway 8R (Reef Runway) at Honolulu
International Airport. "It jumped in the air, and flies very fast" reported
my trusty test pilot Bob Justman, "almost as good as my RV-8, but easier to
land". Thanks Bob!
It flew great with no surprises. Eight years of careful construction (6 productive
ones) finally paid off! Looking forward to many years of fun flying and
adventures.
Many thanks to all the staff at Vans Aircraft and the insightful RV Listers. Much
mahalo to my South Ramp hanger buddies for thier encouragement and support,
my friends at the Hawaii Air National Guard, parents, siblings, kids, and wives
for the many many years of support!
Aloha,
Greg (:>
---------------------------------
Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
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--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net>
Greetings listers,
Has anyone done the testing to determine a power setting for zero thrust
in an RV-6 or -6A?
RHDudley
-6A
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight of Honolulu RV-6A |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
Hi Greg,
Congratulations! Please give us lots of details about what
it's like to fly your RV6A in Hawaii.
Best regards,
Mickey
Greg Grigson wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Greg Grigson <iflyhawaii2@yahoo.com>
>
>
> N-79PT took it's first flight at 0732 HST from runway 8R (Reef
> Runway) at Honolulu International Airport. "It jumped in the air,
> and flies very fast" reported my trusty test pilot Bob Justman,
> "almost as good as my RV-8, but easier to land". Thanks Bob!
>
>
> It flew great with no surprises. Eight years of careful construction
> (6 productive ones) finally paid off! Looking forward to many years
> of fun flying and adventures.
>
>
> Many thanks to all the staff at Vans Aircraft and the insightful RV
> Listers. Much mahalo to my South Ramp hanger buddies for thier
> encouragement and support, my friends at the Hawaii Air National
> Guard, parents, siblings, kids, and wives for the many many years of
> support!
>
>
> Aloha,
>
> Greg (:>
>
>
>
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 finishing
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--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>Has anyone done the testing to determine a power setting for zero thrust
>in an RV-6 or -6A?
Maybe this is a trick question but sounds like engine off.
Ron Lee
Do Not Archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
On 4 Oct 2005, at 16:30, Richard Dudley wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net>
>
> Greetings listers,
>
> Has anyone done the testing to determine a power setting for zero
> thrust
> in an RV-6 or -6A?
If you have a fixed pitch prop, there should be a linear relationship
between the rpm for zero thrust and the True Airspeed. If you have a
constant speed prop it may get a bit more complicated, depending on
whether the prop is governing, or whether it is sitting on one of its
pitch stops.
For a fixed pitch prop, the rpm required will vary with the prop
pitch, airspeed and altitude. Each prop manufacturer has their own
scheme to define prop pitch. Each RV has its own ASI and static
source position error. So someone else's result probably won't be
applicable to your aircraft.
The testing to determine the rpm vs TAS relationship for zero thrust
would be quite delicate to get accurate results. It would also
require quite a few timed descents with the engine stopped and prop
stopped, so it isn't for the faint of heart.
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
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--> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
I guess I am with Ron. What does zero thrust mean?
Regards,
Michael Wynn
RV 8 (almost done with the) Empennage
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Canopy Part Numbers |
--> RV-List message posted by: JTAnon@aol.com
The battle with the slider canopy continues, but.....
Have any of you ever noticed the part number of the aft canopy skirt?
C 666
That's right!!
666 THE DEVIL'S NUMBER
Coincidence????
I think not!!!
John McDonnell (RV7A Slider) Still in canopy Hades
Do Not Archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Richard Dudley wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net>
>
>Greetings listers,
>
>Has anyone done the testing to determine a power setting for zero thrust
>in an RV-6 or -6A?
>
>RHDudley
>-6A
>
The CAFE Foundation guys use microswitches tracking the back side of the
prop flange. End play of the crank is detected by the switches &
throttle is tweaked to *not* activate either switch.
Charlie
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--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
I guess I am with Ron. What does zero thrust mean?
Zero thrust is the condition where the thrust from the prop (under very
slight power) is equal to the drag of the prop disc. It is meant to
simulate a dead engine/ stopped prop condition. It is used often in
multi-engine training to simulate an engine out, without actually
shutting down the engine. If one were to simply shut down the engine,
the drag from the windmilling prop would be much more than the drag of a
stopped prop, so just killing the engine is not "zero-thrust."
Jeff Point
RV-6
Milwaukee
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Anywhere map or TrueFlight? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
I hope to hear good things about Trueflight(flight cheetah). It seems like
a great product.
do not archive
Shemp/Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
235 hours
Chicago/Louisville
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oliver Washburn" <ollie6a@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Anywhere map or TrueFlight?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Oliver Washburn" <ollie6a@earthlink.net>
>
> Ihave anywhere map on a 4705and the problem is the 4705 freezes up over
> 105*
> which is very easy to have in the cockpit in sunny Fl. I had a 3600series
> Ipaq before and it was all right.
> Ollie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bordelon, Greg" <gbordelon@hess.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Anywhere map or TrueFlight?
>
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bordelon, Greg" <gbordelon@hess.com>
>>
>> Wanted to know if anyone has been using this product?
>>
>> http://www.aviationsafety.com/fl_210.htm
>>
>> Experiences? Comments??
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Young
>> To: rv-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: RV-List: Anywhere map?
>>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com>
>>
>> I know it will run on the HP4705 Ipaq 'cause they used it in their demo
>> at SnF. Probably needs a hi-res PDA like the 4705 though. I was very
>> impressed with the MountainScope product and the folks behind it. They
>> exude the same kind of quiet technical competence I see from Greg Toman
>> and Grand Rapids. I'll likely switch to them if I talk myself out of the
>> 396.
>>
>> Greg Young
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling"
>> --> <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
>>
>> I dont think mountain scope can run on a pda.
>>
>> do not archive
>>
>> Shemp/Jeff Dowling
>> RV-6A, N915JD
>> 235 hours
>> Chicago/Louisville
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> --> RV-List message posted by: David Leonard <wdleonard@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Visibility is not as good as some of the aviation handhelds, but that
>>> is its only draw-back. Still usable in any amount of daylight, I
>>> really love the following features:
>>> Easy to upgrade software and database
>>> Flight planning where ever you are - I use my iPaq at work all the
>>> time You already know how to use it.
>>> Versatile GPS options
>>> If you are considering iPaq also look into MountainScope software:
>>> http://www.pcavionics.com/custserv/index.jsp
>>> The 3-d terrain is simply unsurpassed and most other features are
>>> about like anywhere map. Same Price.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave Leonard
>>> Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
>>> http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rotaryroster/index.html
>>> http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/vp4skydoc/index.html
>>> On 9/18/05, bill shook <billshook2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Dreaming of a tandem? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steven DiNieri" <capsteve@adelphia.net>
Check with lokar and zoop, both supply tons of cool billet stuff including
small odd shaped mirrors to hot rod guys. I bought a cool one for a cobra
project recently.
Steve
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski
<bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
I have been looking or mirrors for my 8 and have not found any that I like
so a supplier would also be great.
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| Subject: | MT Propeller 183-59 Blade Exchange Offer |
--> RV-List message posted by: LessDragProd@aol.com
Hi All,
MT Propeller and Less Drag Products, Inc. is offering a blade exchange
program for the Lycoming 360 3 blade MT Propeller.
If you have the MTV-12, or MTV-18, 3 blade MT Propeller on your Lycoming 360
engine, you can exchange your present 183-59 blades for the new 183-59b
blades.
You might be interested in this offer if you would like to remove the mid
range RPM restriction on your Lycoming 360 engine, and increase your cruise
speed by about 5 mph.
MT Propeller is offering to exchange your present three 183-59 blades with a
new set of 183-59b blades for about the same price as a single 183-59b blade.
(The list price for a single replacement 183-59b blade is $2,430.)
Less Drag Products, Inc. will coordinate the actual blade set replacement
for your propeller, based on your location and replacement blade set
availability.
Please contact Less Drag Products, Inc. directly at _jim@lessdrag.com_
(mailto:jim@lessdrag.com) to obtain a schedule and cost estimate.
Regards,
Jim Ayers
Less Drag Products, Inc.
(805) 795-5377 8am to 8pm PDT
(805) 499-8646 FAX
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| Subject: | Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection |
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 10/4/2005 12:49:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
lors01@msn.com writes:
I agree that the gascolator may be un-needed (as long as you have good tank
drains).
===========================================
...AND you use them at every fill-up after you have let your new fuel fill
settle for awhile...OR you really trust the maintenance people at the fuel
station to have changed their water separator.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 765hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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| Subject: | Re:Auto Fuel/Fuel Injection |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Rob Prior (rv7)" <rv7@b4.ca>
On 20:14:25 2005-10-04 Vanremog@aol.com wrote:
> I agree that the gascolator may be un-needed (as long as you have
> good tank drains).
Unless you're building in Canada, in which case not installing a Gascolator
is not an option. Every Amateur-Built aircraft in Canada requires a
Gascolator as per the CARs.
-Rob
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