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1. 05:17 AM - Re: stereo or not? ()
2. 07:00 AM - Re: stereo or not? (Ron Lee)
3. 07:29 AM - Re: stereo or not? (Chuck Jensen)
4. 08:06 AM - Re: stereo or not? (Ron Lee)
5. 09:46 AM - Re: stereo or not? (Jeffery J. Morgan)
6. 12:28 PM - Re: stereo or not? (Dan Checkoway)
7. 01:25 PM - Off Topic: Wild Blue Internet service, anyone? (Charlie England)
8. 01:27 PM - Solder-it-yourself Magneto Buzz Box (Dan Checkoway)
9. 01:54 PM - RV-6A for Sale (Becki)
10. 02:11 PM - Re: Solder-it-yourself Magneto Buzz Box (Ron Lee)
11. 02:20 PM - RV10 Kit for sale (McIntosh, Todd)
12. 02:52 PM - Re: Solder-it-yourself Magneto Buzz Box (Dan Checkoway)
13. 03:22 PM - Garmin 396 on EBay (Gerald Richardson)
14. 03:39 PM - Re: Garmin 396 on EBay (Konrad L. Werner)
15. 03:40 PM - Re: Garmin 396 on EBay (Jerry Hansen)
16. 03:52 PM - Re: Garmin 396 on EBay (James Ochs)
17. 04:08 PM - Re: Garmin 396 on EBay (Darrell Reiley)
18. 04:27 PM - Re: Garmin 396 on EBay (Konrad L. Werner)
19. 04:58 PM - Re: Garmin 396 on EBay (Bob C.)
20. 05:39 PM - Re: Garmin 396 on EBay (Jerry Hansen)
21. 06:16 PM - Re: Garmin 396 on EBay (Darrell Reiley)
22. 06:55 PM - GPS Buttons (Sherri & Paul Richardson)
23. 07:38 PM - RV flooring & adhesive (dave)
24. 08:09 PM - Re: Garmin 396 on EBay (Konrad L. Werner)
25. 08:14 PM - Re: RV flooring & adhesive (Dan Krueger)
26. 08:39 PM - Re: RV flooring & adhesive (Dan Checkoway)
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| Subject: | Re: stereo or not? |
--> RV-List message posted by: <gmcjetpilot@yahoo.com>
Are you someone who listens to music at home, in the office, in the car? If you
love music and especially want to take long trips with your RV it is a must.
However a cheap stereo intercom and headset and poor music source (low power low
fidelity) is almost worse than having no music. If you want music be ready
to pay extra for the best components.
There is more to it than having a STEREO input. Good quality input (ipod, xm radio),
good quality stereo headset (lightspeed) and most important good quality
intercom. I recommend the 244e from DRE. They make a top of the line stereo intercom.
I know PS engineering also makes good intercoms.
Some problems with some portable music/CD player/MP3 players is they don't have
enough output to drive the intercom properly, so I made a little stereo preamp,
hidden under the panel. It uses a few milli amps when not used. The preamp
is in-line with my aux jack, if I need to boost the source. Many low powered devices
have to be turned way up to supply the proper source and the music become
more distorted.
As far as noise, Yes, you will never get the fidelity you would sitting in your
media room or den with your doba-deca-super-phonic 10 thousand watt surround
sound, but it is still a nice feature. If you are a talk-radio guy and the last
CD you bought was in the mid 80's or all your music is on somthing that starts
with 8, forget it. :-)
One thing you can consider instead of a full stereo intercom, for occasional cross
country flights, is stuffing ear-buds into you ears, than put the head-set
over them. The music is direct from the music source to the ear buds, separate
from the intercom. If the head-set has good ear seals the wires will not leak
much noise. Turning your com radio up a little will override the music if needed
and assure no missed radio calls, but you will have to manually turn the
music down to talk. Stereo intercoms MUTE the music automatically and fade it
back when done, however if flying VFR in basic G airspace, outside the airport
traffic pattern, there's not much ATC to listen to. I do suggest 121.5 is a good
freq to listen to on a X-C for those distress calls or when the F-16 intercepts
you because you just flew thru restricted airspace due to being distracted
from listening to your music mix tape, Best of the Polka. :-)
George
>Subject: RV-List: stereo or not?
--> RV-List message posted by: "Greg@itmack"
>Hi all, just wondering about the advantage if any of having a stereo input to
the
>audio system. Considering the ambient noise level in an RV, is stereo noticeable
>and worth the added cost?
>
>Thanks
>Greg RV8
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| Subject: | Re: stereo or not? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>Hi all, just wondering about the advantage if any of having a stereo input
>to the audio system. Considering the ambient noise level in an RV, is
>stereo noticeable and worth the added cost?
Absolutely. As Dan and George mentioned, go for quality. I use the XM Roady 2
which can be had for free to $5 at times on www.ecost.com.
Definitely wire your system so that the unit can be mounted in a good place
to minimize wires. Mine is not that way now and the spaghetti nest of wires
is tacky. But I do have nice music. Lightspeed 20 3G headsets but I would
go for the 30s next time (more db attenuation). Make sure that your intercom
mutes on VHF radio operation. I would also look for an intercom that has the
option to NOT mute in that case for the passenger.
Ron Lee
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com>
Dan (and others),
Did you have to use a separate antenna to be able to get reception or is
the raw/base unit adequate? Last thing we need is more antennas and
wires.
Chuck
Dan Checkoway wrote
Oh, it is MOST definitely worth having stereo. If you are any sort of
audiophile -- that is, you can actually tell the difference between mono
and
stereo -- then I highly recommend installing a stereo input. I've used
an
ipod & now an XM Roady 2 in my RV and it really kicks butt. Using the
GMA-340 with its 20dB boost enabled and listening through Lightspeed
headsets that I have (25XL and 20XL), the sound quality is excellent
considering its in an airplane with tiny headset speakers. I personally
wouldn't be happy with monaural sound.
Something else to consider... I originally wired up a single 1/8"
stereo
jack under the panel (wired into the entertainment input in my audio
panel).
That worked, but I'm not a fan of wires in the cockpit -- and it's not
very
conducive to "expansion" of the system. When it came time to install my
XM
radio "permanently," I went ahead and installed a 4-circuit terminal
strip.
Shield, left, right, ground, wired to the audio panel. The 1/8" stereo
jack
hooks up at the terminal strip, as does the permanent XM installation.
If I
ever want to add some other audio device in the future, I just wire it
to
the terminal strip. No need to do surgery on my audio panel harness.
I'm
sure there are more elegant ways of doing this, but this works for me.
Hope this helps,
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
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--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>Did you have to use a separate antenna to be able to get reception or is
>the raw/base unit adequate? Last thing we need is more antennas and
>wires.
XM requires a small antenna (max 1 inch square). Then there is the power cord
and the radio output cord (to intercom stereo input). That is why you need
to plan
for it to minimize cord issues. I have heard that the XM cigarette
lighter assembly
has DC-DC converter electronics so you may not be able to cut the cord and
hardwire it in.
I am considering a cigarette lighter stack behind the panel for the various
items
that need it. Most likely would be inserted down and tiewrapped for security.
Ron Lee
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeffery J. Morgan" <jmorgan@compnetconcepts.com>
If you check online or go to a Best Buy or such store, they sell an in
dash car hookup kit that has a cigarette plug connector with a wire
split off for junction into the line so that you can put the adapter in
the dash without having it hanging out in the open. That is what I did
in my vehicle.
Of course that being said, you could make such a connector very easily
and probably much less then that $30 for the kit.
-------
XM requires a small antenna (max 1 inch square). Then there is the
power cord and the radio output cord (to intercom stereo input). That
is why you need to plan
for it to minimize cord issues. I have heard that the XM cigarette
lighter assembly
has DC-DC converter electronics so you may not be able to cut the cord
and hardwire it in.
I am considering a cigarette lighter stack behind the panel for the
various items that need it. Most likely would be inserted down and
tiewrapped for security.
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| Subject: | Re: stereo or not? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> Did you have to use a separate antenna to be able to get reception or is
> the raw/base unit adequate? Last thing we need is more antennas and
> wires.
I've been playing around with my XM antenna installation. I use the stock
antenna that came with the Roady2. It works fine if you place it out in the
open, but I'm still fidgeting around with antenna locations. I'm such a
snob about "seeing" stuff out in the open, and I want nothing on my
glareshield and I refuse to mount antennas externally. So obviously that
presents a challenge... ;-)
My current project is to replacing my front deck access panels, currently
aluminum, with fiberglass, and mounting my XM antenna (and a few other
satellite antennas for new projects) under there as well. I'm currently
envying composite aircraft builders...nah, nevermind that.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
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| Subject: | Off Topic: Wild Blue Internet service, anyone? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
I'm struggling with bad dialup & can't get dsl or cable.
Has anyone had any experience with 'Wild Blue Internet' satellite service?
http://www.wildblue.com/
Any other fast/affordable alternatives? (DirectPC is a bit too painful
an entry fee at this point)
Thanks,
Charlie
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| Subject: | Solder-it-yourself Magneto Buzz Box |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
RVators,
If you're like me and have at least one magneto, you gotta check timing from
time to time. My hangarmate has a dual mag buzz box, and I've been bumming
it off him. But recently he loaned out his engine tool kit, and I've wanted
to have my own buzz box. To buy one of these suckers off the shelf, the
price isn't too bad, around $45-50 or so at the cheapest. But I always
figured it couldn't be too complicated a circuit if you wanted to build your
own.
I'm no electrical engineer, but I can solder! I was turned on to this KIT
to solder up your own buzz box:
http://www.magnetotimer.com
It's basically half the cost ($28, including shipping) of an off-the-shelf
product, and you get to build it yourself. I bought one, and last night I
soldered it up and gave it a try. Here are some photos:
http://images.rvproject.com/images/magtimer/kit.jpg
It comes 100% complete, including the molded case and everything you need.
All you need is a soldering iron and solder (and a 9V battery). All of the
components come taped to the diagram, pointing at exactly where they go on
the board. Just solder 'em on, one by one, and then fire it up! It works
great!!!
http://images.rvproject.com/images/magtimer/completed.jpg
It has a buzzer and two LEDs, one for each mag (assuming you have two). It
has an auto-off function. It detects a short or improper hookups. The test
leads stow in the case. The thing rocks!
(I am not affiliated...just a happy customer.)
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (643 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
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[Blocked - see" <http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?206.46.252.53@roxy.matronics.com>]
--> RV-List message posted by: "Becki" <becki@fly-gbi.com>
Our new RV-7A flew September 30! George says it flies great. When it is out
of the paint shop, we'll post pictures on our website.
It is with much regret, but we cannot justify two planes, that we are offering
our RV-6A for sale. Details can be found at:
www.fly-gbi.com/N229RV.htm
Please email or call (940) 648-0841 if you are interested.
Becki Orndorff
GeoBeck, Inc.
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| Subject: | Re: Solder-it-yourself Magneto Buzz Box |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
Are those PINK wires or a flaw in my screen color rendition?
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | RV10 Kit for sale |
1.53 RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO Received": rv-list@matronics.com
--> RV-List message posted by: "McIntosh, Todd" <McIntoshT@health.missouri.edu>
Two RVs is one to many. I am selling my RV10 kit. Tail is finished. Haven't
started on wings yet but everything has been inventoried. Contact me at
mcintoshtw@direcway.com if interested.
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| Subject: | Re: Solder-it-yourself Magneto Buzz Box |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
It's red, it's just the way my low budget camera dealt with it on that
particular photo...
do not archive
)_( Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Lee" <ronlee@pcisys.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Solder-it-yourself Magneto Buzz Box
> --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>
> Are those PINK wires or a flaw in my screen color rendition?
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> Ron Lee
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Garmin 396 on EBay |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gerald Richardson <gerric@shaw.ca>
Check out his link on Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/Garmin-GPSMap-396-Garmin-GPSMap-296-brand-new_W0QQit
emZ6005145584QQcategoryZ18992QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I was wondering if anyone has bought these Garmin 296 and 396 GPS's on
Ebay. Is this a scam?
It appears that they ship direct from Europe to America for $500.00 USD
for the Garmin 396 and $400.00 USD for the 296, and they both contain
all the optional equipment. They want the funds transferred via Western
Union only. Makes me wonder here...
It appears there is more than 1 individual doing this.
Here is a response I received from 2 different individuals
""HI
First I want to tell you that my Garmin are brand new, unopened box
all accessories included and also an international warranty.
The invoice will come at the same time with the package.
My price is the best you could get: 500 $, including the
shipping and insurance taxes. We will pay them because the package
will be delivered from Europe.I have 5 units avalaible.
As delivery service we use UPS 2 days air service or overnight (with
insurance and
15 days return policy), because it's the faster also free. And if you
will have
a quick payment, we must also have a quick delivery. So that's why we
use as a payment method Western Union money transfer, the fastest and
also very secure way of sending money.
So, if you agree with my terms I'm sure that we can close the deal as
soon as possible.
Waiting your quick answer right now,
THANK YOU ""
Sounds a little too good to be true.
Any comments...
Thanks
Gerald
RV6A
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin 396 on EBay |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
Gerald,
I'd stay away! FAR AWAY!
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Gerald Richardson
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 4:20 PM
Subject: RV-List: Garmin 396 on EBay
--> RV-List message posted by: Gerald Richardson <gerric@shaw.ca>
Check out his link on Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/Garmin-GPSMap-396-Garmin-GPSMap-296-brand-new_W0QQit
emZ6005145584QQcategoryZ18992QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I was wondering if anyone has bought these Garmin 296 and 396 GPS's on
Ebay. Is this a scam?
It appears that they ship direct from Europe to America for $500.00 USD
for the Garmin 396 and $400.00 USD for the 296, and they both contain
all the optional equipment. They want the funds transferred via Western
Union only. Makes me wonder here...
It appears there is more than 1 individual doing this.
Here is a response I received from 2 different individuals
""HI
First I want to tell you that my Garmin are brand new, unopened box
all accessories included and also an international warranty.
The invoice will come at the same time with the package.
My price is the best you could get: 500 $, including the
shipping and insurance taxes. We will pay them because the package
will be delivered from Europe.I have 5 units avalaible.
As delivery service we use UPS 2 days air service or overnight (with
insurance and
15 days return policy), because it's the faster also free. And if you
will have
a quick payment, we must also have a quick delivery. So that's why we
use as a payment method Western Union money transfer, the fastest and
also very secure way of sending money.
So, if you agree with my terms I'm sure that we can close the deal as
soon as possible.
Waiting your quick answer right now,
THANK YOU ""
Sounds a little too good to be true.
Any comments...
Thanks
Gerald
RV6A
--
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| Subject: | Garmin 396 on EBay |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Hansen" <jerry-hansen@cox.net>
If you go for this, I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I'd be willing to
sell....
Jerry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Richardson
Subject: RV-List: Garmin 396 on EBay
--> RV-List message posted by: Gerald Richardson <gerric@shaw.ca>
Check out his link on Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/Garmin-GPSMap-396-Garmin-GPSMap-296-brand-new_W0QQit
emZ6005145584QQcategoryZ18992QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I was wondering if anyone has bought these Garmin 296 and 396 GPS's on Ebay.
Is this a scam?
It appears that they ship direct from Europe to America for $500.00 USD for
the Garmin 396 and $400.00 USD for the 296, and they both contain all the
optional equipment. They want the funds transferred via Western Union only.
Makes me wonder here...
It appears there is more than 1 individual doing this.
Here is a response I received from 2 different individuals
""HI
First I want to tell you that my Garmin are brand new, unopened box all
accessories included and also an international warranty.
The invoice will come at the same time with the package.
My price is the best you could get: 500 $, including the shipping and
insurance taxes. We will pay them because the package will be delivered from
Europe.I have 5 units avalaible.
As delivery service we use UPS 2 days air service or overnight (with
insurance and
15 days return policy), because it's the faster also free. And if you will
have a quick payment, we must also have a quick delivery. So that's why we
use as a payment method Western Union money transfer, the fastest and also
very secure way of sending money.
So, if you agree with my terms I'm sure that we can close the deal as soon
as possible.
Waiting your quick answer right now,
THANK YOU ""
Sounds a little too good to be true.
Any comments...
Thanks
Gerald
RV6A
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin 396 on EBay |
--> RV-List message posted by: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org>
It's a scam. Usually those auctions get pulled within 30 minutes or
so... but they try to pull that with all of the new electronics.
james
#40400
Gerald Richardson wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Gerald Richardson <gerric@shaw.ca>
>
>Check out his link on Ebay
>http://cgi.ebay.com/Garmin-GPSMap-396-Garmin-GPSMap-296-brand-new_W0QQit
>emZ6005145584QQcategoryZ18992QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>I was wondering if anyone has bought these Garmin 296 and 396 GPS's on
>Ebay. Is this a scam?
>It appears that they ship direct from Europe to America for $500.00 USD
>for the Garmin 396 and $400.00 USD for the 296, and they both contain
>all the optional equipment. They want the funds transferred via Western
>Union only. Makes me wonder here...
>
>It appears there is more than 1 individual doing this.
>
>Here is a response I received from 2 different individuals
>
>""HI
>First I want to tell you that my Garmin are brand new, unopened box
>all accessories included and also an international warranty.
>The invoice will come at the same time with the package.
>My price is the best you could get: 500 $, including the
>shipping and insurance taxes. We will pay them because the package
>will be delivered from Europe.I have 5 units avalaible.
>As delivery service we use UPS 2 days air service or overnight (with
>insurance and
>15 days return policy), because it's the faster also free. And if you
>will have
>a quick payment, we must also have a quick delivery. So that's why we
>use as a payment method Western Union money transfer, the fastest and
>also very secure way of sending money.
>So, if you agree with my terms I'm sure that we can close the deal as
>soon as possible.
>Waiting your quick answer right now,
>THANK YOU ""
>
>Sounds a little too good to be true.
>
>Any comments...
>
>Thanks
>
>Gerald
>RV6A
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin 396 on EBay |
--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
Look's like a SCAM big time to me.
Darrell
do not archive
Gerald Richardson <gerric@shaw.ca> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: Gerald Richardson
Check out his link on Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/Garmin-GPSMap-396-Garmin-GPSMap-296-brand-new_W0QQit
emZ6005145584QQcategoryZ18992QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I was wondering if anyone has bought these Garmin 296 and 396 GPS's on
Ebay. Is this a scam?
It appears that they ship direct from Europe to America for $500.00 USD
for the Garmin 396 and $400.00 USD for the 296, and they both contain
all the optional equipment. They want the funds transferred via Western
Union only. Makes me wonder here...
It appears there is more than 1 individual doing this.
Here is a response I received from 2 different individuals
""HI
First I want to tell you that my Garmin are brand new, unopened box
all accessories included and also an international warranty.
The invoice will come at the same time with the package.
My price is the best you could get: 500 $, including the
shipping and insurance taxes. We will pay them because the package
will be delivered from Europe.I have 5 units avalaible.
As delivery service we use UPS 2 days air service or overnight (with
insurance and
15 days return policy), because it's the faster also free. And if you
will have
a quick payment, we must also have a quick delivery. So that's why we
use as a payment method Western Union money transfer, the fastest and
also very secure way of sending money.
So, if you agree with my terms I'm sure that we can close the deal as
soon as possible.
Waiting your quick answer right now,
THANK YOU ""
Sounds a little too good to be true.
Any comments...
Thanks
Gerald
RV6A
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin 396 on EBay |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
Jerry,
How much are you asking? I always wanted to buy myself a bridge in Brooklyn!
This may be my lucky day.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Hansen
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 4:39 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Garmin 396 on EBay
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Hansen" <jerry-hansen@cox.net>
If you go for this, I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I'd be willing to
sell....
Jerry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Richardson
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV-List: Garmin 396 on EBay
--> RV-List message posted by: Gerald Richardson <gerric@shaw.ca>
Check out his link on Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/Garmin-GPSMap-396-Garmin-GPSMap-296-brand-new_W0QQit
emZ6005145584QQcategoryZ18992QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I was wondering if anyone has bought these Garmin 296 and 396 GPS's on Ebay.
Is this a scam?
It appears that they ship direct from Europe to America for $500.00 USD for
the Garmin 396 and $400.00 USD for the 296, and they both contain all the
optional equipment. They want the funds transferred via Western Union only.
Makes me wonder here...
It appears there is more than 1 individual doing this.
Here is a response I received from 2 different individuals
""HI
First I want to tell you that my Garmin are brand new, unopened box all
accessories included and also an international warranty.
The invoice will come at the same time with the package.
My price is the best you could get: 500 $, including the shipping and
insurance taxes. We will pay them because the package will be delivered from
Europe.I have 5 units avalaible.
As delivery service we use UPS 2 days air service or overnight (with
insurance and
15 days return policy), because it's the faster also free. And if you will
have a quick payment, we must also have a quick delivery. So that's why we
use as a payment method Western Union money transfer, the fastest and also
very secure way of sending money.
So, if you agree with my terms I'm sure that we can close the deal as soon
as possible.
Waiting your quick answer right now,
THANK YOU ""
Sounds a little too good to be true.
Any comments...
Thanks
Gerald
RV6A
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin 396 on EBay |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob C. " <flyboy.bob@gmail.com>
It's been pulled!
On 10/10/05, Konrad L. Werner <klwerner@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
>
> Jerry,
>
> How much are you asking? I always wanted to buy myself a bridge in
> Brooklyn! This may be my lucky day.
>
> do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jerry Hansen
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 4:39 PM
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Garmin 396 on EBay
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Hansen" <jerry-hansen@cox.net>
>
> If you go for this, I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I'd be willing to
> sell....
>
> Jerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Richardson
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Garmin 396 on EBay
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Gerald Richardson <gerric@shaw.ca>
>
> Check out his link on Ebay
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Garmin-GPSMap-396-Garmin-GPSMap-296-brand-new_W0QQit
> emZ6005145584QQcategoryZ18992QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> I was wondering if anyone has bought these Garmin 296 and 396 GPS's on
> Ebay.
> Is this a scam?
> It appears that they ship direct from Europe to America for $500.00 USD
> for
> the Garmin 396 and $400.00 USD for the 296, and they both contain all the
> optional equipment. They want the funds transferred via Western Union
> only.
> Makes me wonder here...
>
> It appears there is more than 1 individual doing this.
>
> Here is a response I received from 2 different individuals
>
> ""HI
> First I want to tell you that my Garmin are brand new, unopened box all
> accessories included and also an international warranty.
> The invoice will come at the same time with the package.
> My price is the best you could get: 500 $, including the shipping and
> insurance taxes. We will pay them because the package will be delivered
> from
> Europe.I have 5 units avalaible.
> As delivery service we use UPS 2 days air service or overnight (with
> insurance and
> 15 days return policy), because it's the faster also free. And if you will
> have a quick payment, we must also have a quick delivery. So that's why we
> use as a payment method Western Union money transfer, the fastest and also
> very secure way of sending money.
> So, if you agree with my terms I'm sure that we can close the deal as soon
> as possible.
> Waiting your quick answer right now,
> THANK YOU ""
>
> Sounds a little too good to be true.
>
> Any comments...
>
> Thanks
>
> Gerald
> RV6A
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Garmin 396 on EBay |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Hansen" <jerry-hansen@cox.net>
The bridge is $500. The paperwork will cost $1,500,598,654.00. Check (when
cleared) or money order will do.
Jerry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Konrad L. Werner
Subject: Re: RV-List: Garmin 396 on EBay
--> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
Jerry,
How much are you asking? I always wanted to buy myself a bridge in
Brooklyn! This may be my lucky day.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Hansen
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 4:39 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Garmin 396 on EBay
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Hansen" <jerry-hansen@cox.net>
If you go for this, I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I'd be willing to
sell....
Jerry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Richardson
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV-List: Garmin 396 on EBay
--> RV-List message posted by: Gerald Richardson <gerric@shaw.ca>
Check out his link on Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/Garmin-GPSMap-396-Garmin-GPSMap-296-brand-new_W0QQit
emZ6005145584QQcategoryZ18992QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I was wondering if anyone has bought these Garmin 296 and 396 GPS's on
Ebay.
Is this a scam?
It appears that they ship direct from Europe to America for $500.00 USD
for
the Garmin 396 and $400.00 USD for the 296, and they both contain all the
optional equipment. They want the funds transferred via Western Union
only.
Makes me wonder here...
It appears there is more than 1 individual doing this.
Here is a response I received from 2 different individuals
""HI
First I want to tell you that my Garmin are brand new, unopened box all
accessories included and also an international warranty.
The invoice will come at the same time with the package.
My price is the best you could get: 500 $, including the shipping and
insurance taxes. We will pay them because the package will be delivered
from
Europe.I have 5 units avalaible.
As delivery service we use UPS 2 days air service or overnight (with
insurance and
15 days return policy), because it's the faster also free. And if you will
have a quick payment, we must also have a quick delivery. So that's why we
use as a payment method Western Union money transfer, the fastest and also
very secure way of sending money.
So, if you agree with my terms I'm sure that we can close the deal as soon
as possible.
Waiting your quick answer right now,
THANK YOU ""
Sounds a little too good to be true.
Any comments...
Thanks
Gerald
RV6A
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin 396 on EBay |
--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
If you look they are slurping up valid EBay ID's. That's why their feedback looks
Steller...
The email them directly info should always give them away.
Darrell
do not archive
"Bob C. " <flyboy.bob@gmail.com> wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob C. "
It's been pulled!
On 10/10/05, Konrad L. Werner wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner"
>
> Jerry,
>
> How much are you asking? I always wanted to buy myself a bridge in
> Brooklyn! This may be my lucky day.
>
> do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jerry Hansen
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 4:39 PM
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Garmin 396 on EBay
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Hansen"
>
> If you go for this, I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I'd be willing to
> sell....
>
> Jerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Richardson
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Garmin 396 on EBay
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Gerald Richardson
>
> Check out his link on Ebay
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Garmin-GPSMap-396-Garmin-GPSMap-296-brand-new_W0QQit
> emZ6005145584QQcategoryZ18992QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> I was wondering if anyone has bought these Garmin 296 and 396 GPS's on
> Ebay.
> Is this a scam?
> It appears that they ship direct from Europe to America for $500.00 USD
> for
> the Garmin 396 and $400.00 USD for the 296, and they both contain all the
> optional equipment. They want the funds transferred via Western Union
> only.
> Makes me wonder here...
>
> It appears there is more than 1 individual doing this.
>
> Here is a response I received from 2 different individuals
>
> ""HI
> First I want to tell you that my Garmin are brand new, unopened box all
> accessories included and also an international warranty.
> The invoice will come at the same time with the package.
> My price is the best you could get: 500 $, including the shipping and
> insurance taxes. We will pay them because the package will be delivered
> from
> Europe.I have 5 units avalaible.
> As delivery service we use UPS 2 days air service or overnight (with
> insurance and
> 15 days return policy), because it's the faster also free. And if you will
> have a quick payment, we must also have a quick delivery. So that's why we
> use as a payment method Western Union money transfer, the fastest and also
> very secure way of sending money.
> So, if you agree with my terms I'm sure that we can close the deal as soon
> as possible.
> Waiting your quick answer right now,
> THANK YOU ""
>
> Sounds a little too good to be true.
>
> Any comments...
>
> Thanks
>
> Gerald
> RV6A
>
>
> --
>
>
Darrell
RV7A - 622DR Reserved
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Sherri & Paul Richardson" <prichar@mail.win.org>
Hello Everyone,
I can no longer see through the GPS buttons (see attached) and make out the
lettering. Does anyone know where to buy these buttons or covers? I didn't
have any luck with AmericaKing, they sent the wrong ones.
(I'm not sure what needs to be replaced, if it's a lens of some type or
what.)
Do not archive.
Thanks,
Paul Richardson
RV-6A 106RV
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| Subject: | RV flooring & adhesive |
--> RV-List message posted by: "dave" <dford@michweb.net>
I am just getting around to putting in some 3/4 foam padding on the floor of my
6 between the floor angles and wondered what is being used as adhesive? 3M spray?
2 sided tape? Pro seal?
Dave Ford
RV6
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin 396 on EBay |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
Dear Jerry,
I'd love to have the bridge, but am afraid to say: "I do have to pass your offer
in favor of spending said money on an *RV-6A*. Darn the bureaucratic paperwork.
Sorry about that / do not archive
P.S. Let me know when you have another bridge deal coming up before it hits the
bureaucrats!
.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Hansen
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 6:38 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Garmin 396 on EBay
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Hansen" <jerry-hansen@cox.net>
The bridge is $500. The paperwork will cost $1,500,598,654.00. Check (when
cleared) or money order will do.
Jerry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Konrad L. Werner
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: Garmin 396 on EBay
--> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
Jerry,
How much are you asking? I always wanted to buy myself a bridge in
Brooklyn! This may be my lucky day.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Hansen
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 4:39 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Garmin 396 on EBay
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Hansen" <jerry-hansen@cox.net>
If you go for this, I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I'd be willing to
sell....
Jerry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Richardson
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV-List: Garmin 396 on EBay
--> RV-List message posted by: Gerald Richardson <gerric@shaw.ca>
Check out his link on Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/Garmin-GPSMap-396-Garmin-GPSMap-296-brand-new_W0QQit
emZ6005145584QQcategoryZ18992QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I was wondering if anyone has bought these Garmin 296 and 396 GPS's on
Ebay.
Is this a scam?
It appears that they ship direct from Europe to America for $500.00 USD
for
the Garmin 396 and $400.00 USD for the 296, and they both contain all the
optional equipment. They want the funds transferred via Western Union
only.
Makes me wonder here...
It appears there is more than 1 individual doing this.
Here is a response I received from 2 different individuals
""HI
First I want to tell you that my Garmin are brand new, unopened box all
accessories included and also an international warranty.
The invoice will come at the same time with the package.
My price is the best you could get: 500 $, including the shipping and
insurance taxes. We will pay them because the package will be delivered
from
Europe.I have 5 units avalaible.
As delivery service we use UPS 2 days air service or overnight (with
insurance and
15 days return policy), because it's the faster also free. And if you will
have a quick payment, we must also have a quick delivery. So that's why we
use as a payment method Western Union money transfer, the fastest and also
very secure way of sending money.
So, if you agree with my terms I'm sure that we can close the deal as soon
as possible.
Waiting your quick answer right now,
THANK YOU ""
Sounds a little too good to be true.
Any comments...
Thanks
Gerald
RV6A
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| Subject: | Re: RV flooring & adhesive |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dan Krueger <pndkrueg@mchsi.com>
>
> I am just getting around to putting in some 3/4 foam padding on the
> floor of my 6 between the floor angles and wondered what is being used
> as adhesive?
I have found that adhesive is not necessary to hold the foam in place,
Keeping the carpet in place over the foam is another matter - any
suggestions on how to hold the carpet and still easily remove it for
inspections - greatly appreciated.
Dan Krueger
RV6A Flying
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| Subject: | Re: RV flooring & adhesive |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
> I have found that adhesive is not necessary to hold the foam in place,
> Keeping the carpet in place over the foam is another matter - any
> suggestions on how to hold the carpet and still easily remove it for
> inspections - greatly appreciated.
I used 3M Super 77 spray on foam-to-floor.
I used double-sided carpet tape (from the aviation aisle at Lowe's) to keep
the carpet in place. The first year, the passenger side kept scooting
forward, because regardless of how clearly briefed passengers were on how to
get in, it seemed like they ALWAYS dug their heels in. At the first annual,
I pulled up the old tape and replaced it, and I used almost 2x as much tape,
particularly in the area where a bonehead would dig his heels in. The
carpet hasn't budged since.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (643 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
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