---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 10/19/05: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:04 AM - Re: oil pressure relief spring (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)) 2. 04:22 AM - Interesting article on increasing oil pressures (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)) 3. 05:19 AM - Wilma (Charlie England) 4. 05:36 AM - Another RV-8 Empennage for sale, Complete! (Eric Parlow) 5. 06:04 AM - FAA renewal of Medical (Glen Matejcek) 6. 07:00 AM - Re:FAA renewal of Medical (Glaeser, Dennis A) 7. 11:00 AM - Texas Formation Clinic (sturdy@att.net) 8. 02:20 PM - IO-360 B1B firewall forward kit () 9. 03:49 PM - Re: Re:FAA renewal of Medical (Frank Stringham) 10. 03:56 PM - Re: Re:FAA renewal of Medical and other crazy gov. ideas (Frank Stringham) 11. 04:44 PM - Re: IO-360 B1B firewall forward kit (Terry Watson) 12. 04:47 PM - Re: Re:FAA renewal of Medical and other crazy gov. ideas (luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky)) 13. 06:32 PM - Looking for someplace to go on Sat. Oct. 29th..... (JOHN STARN) 14. 06:43 PM - Looking for someplace to go on Sat. Oct. 29th..... (JOHN STARN) 15. 07:03 PM - Re: Re:FAA renewal of Medical and other crazy gov. ideas (glaesers) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:04:04 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: oil pressure relief spring From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" Yes I found that yesterday at Mattituck and got one coming. Thanks for all the on and off list stuff I got from all of you. Cool Drawings and pictures. I even got schematics of the damn springs from you guys. You all crack me up. WHERE DO YOU ALL COME UP WITH THIS STUFF? Man you all need a life:) Best Mike Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Kuss Subject: Re: RV-List: oil pressure relief spring --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss Geez Mike, If you had looked in that Parts Catalog (PC-615) I sent you, you would know that their are 4 possible part numbers to choose from. They are: 68668 (nominal #) 61084 (optional) 77467 (optional) LW-11713 (optional) There is an asterisk besides that part number. (See Figure 3 on page 1-5) It states to use a spring which will allow at least 3 threads of the adjusting screw to protrude to allow future adjustment. I suggest you ask this question of Mahlon Russell over on the Lycoming List. I'm sure he knows or could find out which of the 4 (I suspect it's the LW-11713) is the stiffest spring. Charlie Kuss >--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" > > >Gents, > >Where does one find an oil pressure relief spring for Lycoming? > >After reading the archives it appears there are 3 different ones. I >don't know which one I have, but I have cranked the nut to its stop and >I get 66psi in cruise. > >Although w/I Lycoming spec (55min), higher is better right? > > >Where do I get one of these springs and is a stronger spring mean higher >pressure provided the system is capable? > > >Thanks > >Mike > >Do not archive. > >IO540-C4B5 > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:22:51 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Interesting article on increasing oil pressures From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" Sent to me By Jimmy Baker. Chief planner of flights & co-instigator of the infamous flight of 15 to the Turks & Caicos. Thanks Jimmy. Im cranking up my oil pressure. http://egaa.home.mindspring.com/new.htm Key word archive search: oil pressure increase higher use of oil to augment exhaust valve and guide cooling Cessna red line 115 125 Robinson Bill Marvel and Bill Scott Mike ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:19:12 AM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: RV-List: Wilma --> RV-List message posted by: Charlie England We've got house/hanger space if anyone needs to get out of Florida. Our # is 601 879 9596. Charlie England ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:36:14 AM PST US From: "Eric Parlow" Subject: RV-List: Another RV-8 Empennage for sale, Complete! --> RV-List message posted by: "Eric Parlow" RV-8 Empennage for sale. Built complete. Bought another partially finished wing kit with finished Empennage. No need for two tails! $1000 + shipping. Eric Parlow Asheville, NC (828) 777-7976 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:04:03 AM PST US From: "Glen Matejcek" Subject: RV-List: FAA renewal of Medical --> RV-List message posted by: "Glen Matejcek" Be sure to check out Virtual Flight Surgeon (www.aviationmedicine.com ?) as well as EAA's Aeromedical Advocacy service. Glen Matejcek aerobubba@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:00:51 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Re:FAA renewal of Medical From: "Glaeser, Dennis A" --> RV-List message posted by: "Glaeser, Dennis A" I have a special issuance medical due to a 'mild' heart attack in 1993 (no surgery, no angioplasty - treated with just medication). I didn't get my medical renewed until 2004 for other reasons (relocation, job, family...). For my first renewal I had to get a Stress test and Stress Echo (echocardiogram immediately after stopping the stress test). It took 3 months (and follow-up by the AOPA) but I got my 3rd class - good for only 1 year. This year I needed 'just' a Stress test. It took from the end of May, when I sent the info to the FAA until mid August for them to respond - and then they said I had forgotten to get my cardiologist to send a letter with the stress test results, so I didn't get my renewal until October (good until next Oct). I did call OKC every couple of weeks starting in Aug to check on the status. I had spoken to one of the Aero medical doctors at OSH and he suggested that I do that. He checked my info on-line at OSH and said everything looked in order - he didn't say anything about not having the doctor's letter. He even gave me his card, and said I should call if there were any problems. When I hadn't heard anything by mid-Aug, even after calling OKC, I called his office and they checked and said the same thing OKC said (in-process). As far as "numbers" - the only one I know they are looking for is 100% heart rate (a function of age - I don't recall the formula) during the stress test. They want the tracings for review, but I have no idea what they are looking for. Same for the echo cardiogram. I would definitely call OKC and ask to speak with the person reviewing your application to find out what their concerns are. Good luck! Dennis Glaeser 7A Wings do not archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:00:03 AM PST US From: sturdy@att.net Subject: RV-List: Texas Formation Clinic 1.53 RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO Received: contains an IP address used for HELO --> RV-List message posted by: sturdy@att.net Gainesville TX Formation Clinic You may remember we had a formation clinic scheduled at Abilene in late September, but we canceled it with Hurricane Rita moving in. We are now considering scheduling another formation clinic the weekend before Thanksgiving, 18-20 Nov, in Texas, if there is enough interest. We have chosen Gainesville TX (GLE), 45 Northwest of Dallas as the host site. It has everything we need for a successful clinic. We find about 1/3 low, 1/3 medium, 1/3 high experienced formation pilots is a good mix for a good formation clinic. If you would plan on attending the clinic, given good weather, please email me at sturdy-at-att-dot-net by 25 Oct. Include Name, City/State, Aircraft, Tail#, Formation experience level, email address, telephone#. If there is enough interest, we will schedule it and further advertise the clinic. Stu McCurdy (Falcon) Gainesville TX Formation Clinic You may remember we had a formation clinic scheduled at Abilene in late September, but we canceled it with Hurricane Rita moving in. We are now considering scheduling another formation clinic the weekend before Thanksgiving, 18-20 Nov, in Texas, if there is enough interest. We have chosen Gainesville TX (GLE), 45 Northwest of Dallas as the host site. It has everything we need for a successful clinic. We find about 1/3 low, 1/3 medium, 1/3 high experienced formation pilots is a good mix for a good formation clinic. If you would plan on attending the clinic, given good weather, please email me at sturdy-at-att-dot-net by 25 Oct. Include Name, City/State, Aircraft, Tail#, Formation experience level, email address, telephone#. If there is enough interest, we will schedule it and further advertise the clinic. Stu McCurdy (Falcon) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:20:16 PM PST US From: Subject: RV-List: IO-360 B1B firewall forward kit --> RV-List message posted by: Greeetings. I am working on my 7A, and recently ordered a IO-360 B1B from AeroSport Power. I now want to order the firewall forward kit from Vans, but discovered there is nothing specifically tailored for that engine. The tech guy at Vans recommended ordering the O-360 FWF kit, with a few changes, which were just off the top of his head: (1) Substitute the VA-182 for the VA-149 bracket (for carrying the throttle and mixture cables I think) (2) Delete the gascolator (3) Add the FIA(?) pump and filter (fuel injector pump I presume); and (4) Get a 47-inch mixture cable instead of the 45-inch. I know there are plenty of IO-360s ou there. Does this list sound accurate and complete? thanks for any input. Erich Weaver ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:49:44 PM PST US From: "Frank Stringham" Subject: RE: RV-List: Re:FAA renewal of Medical --> RV-List message posted by: "Frank Stringham" Dennis and all you great flyers >From: "Glaeser, Dennis A" >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: >Subject: RV-List: Re:FAA renewal of Medical >Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:58:55 -0400 > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Glaeser, Dennis A" > >I have a special issuance medical due to a 'mild' heart attack in 1993 >(no surgery, no angioplasty - treated with just medication). I didn't >get my medical renewed until 2004 for other reasons (relocation, job, >family...). > >For my first renewal I had to get a Stress test and Stress Echo >(echocardiogram immediately after stopping the stress test). It took 3 >months (and follow-up by the AOPA) but I got my 3rd class - good for >only 1 year. This year I needed 'just' a Stress test. It took from the >end of May, when I sent the info to the FAA until mid August for them to >respond - and then they said I had forgotten to get my cardiologist to >send a letter with the stress test results, so I didn't get my renewal >until October (good until next Oct). I did call OKC every couple of >weeks starting in Aug to check on the status. I had spoken to one of >the Aero medical doctors at OSH and he suggested that I do that. He >checked my info on-line at OSH and said everything looked in order - he >didn't say anything about not having the doctor's letter. He even gave >me his card, and said I should call if there were any problems. When I >hadn't heard anything by mid-Aug, even after calling OKC, I called his >office and they checked and said the same thing OKC said (in-process). > >As far as "numbers" - the only one I know they are looking for is 100% >heart rate (a function of age - I don't recall the formula) during the >stress test. They want the tracings for review, but I have no idea what >they are looking for. Same for the echo cardiogram. > >I would definitely call OKC and ask to speak with the person reviewing >your application to find out what their concerns are. > >Good luck! > > Dennis Glaeser > 7A Wings > >do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:56:59 PM PST US From: "Frank Stringham" Subject: RE: RV-List: Re:FAA renewal of Medical and other crazy gov. ideas --> RV-List message posted by: "Frank Stringham" Dennis and all you great flyers Now let me see, you have got to spend mucho dollars for the med tests, wait for the FAA to make up it's mind on what they in their wisdom will allow and what more they need, and do this in an untimiuly fashion and you have to guess what tyhey may want, and they want this all done annually.....................but.................you can drive in close formation on the freeway at top speed surrounded by plenty of people to take out IF you just MIGHT have a heart attack and you can do this with a drivers lic. that renews probably every 5 years without all the expensive tests. I say 3rd class same as drivers lic. Less hassel for the FAA (unless they are looking for job preservation). Less expense for you the pilot. Frank @ SGU and SLC ................ >From: "Glaeser, Dennis A" >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com >To: >Subject: RV-List: Re:FAA renewal of Medical >Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:58:55 -0400 > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Glaeser, Dennis A" > >I have a special issuance medical due to a 'mild' heart attack in 1993 >(no surgery, no angioplasty - treated with just medication). I didn't >get my medical renewed until 2004 for other reasons (relocation, job, >family...). > >For my first renewal I had to get a Stress test and Stress Echo >(echocardiogram immediately after stopping the stress test). It took 3 >months (and follow-up by the AOPA) but I got my 3rd class - good for >only 1 year. This year I needed 'just' a Stress test. It took from the >end of May, when I sent the info to the FAA until mid August for them to >respond - and then they said I had forgotten to get my cardiologist to >send a letter with the stress test results, so I didn't get my renewal >until October (good until next Oct). I did call OKC every couple of >weeks starting in Aug to check on the status. I had spoken to one of >the Aero medical doctors at OSH and he suggested that I do that. He >checked my info on-line at OSH and said everything looked in order - he >didn't say anything about not having the doctor's letter. He even gave >me his card, and said I should call if there were any problems. When I >hadn't heard anything by mid-Aug, even after calling OKC, I called his >office and they checked and said the same thing OKC said (in-process). > >As far as "numbers" - the only one I know they are looking for is 100% >heart rate (a function of age - I don't recall the formula) during the >stress test. They want the tracings for review, but I have no idea what >they are looking for. Same for the echo cardiogram. > >I would definitely call OKC and ask to speak with the person reviewing >your application to find out what their concerns are. > >Good luck! > > Dennis Glaeser > 7A Wings > >do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:44:35 PM PST US From: "Terry Watson" Subject: RE: RV-List: IO-360 B1B firewall forward kit --> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" Some of it depends on the fuel injection system you are getting with the engine from Bart. If you are getting the Airflow Performance system, mine came with the flat aluminum plate that connects the bottom of the fuel control box with the filtered air box, so you won't need that from Van's. On the other hand, neither that one or the one from Van's would work on my 8A because the Airflow Performance fuel control box is not centered on the engine and the filtered air box would not fit down into the air scoop, so that flat plate had to be custom built anyway. I ended up moving the hole 3/8" to one side to make it fit. Hopefully Van's has resolved that problem, but I would be surprised if they have. It's another of those "No one else has any problem with it" problems. The bracket that holds the engine-end of the throttle and mixture cables will probably have to be severely modified to fit around the nose gear too, but again, you will probably have to do that yourself. It's not too difficult, but it really helps to see someone else's 7A installation. I also had to move the prop control cable hole in the firewall to make it fit, but the longer cable probably solves that problem. You will be very pleased with how complete Bart is with the engine and the accessories. Mine came with the Airflow Performance purge valve and the prop control line (tubing) and the oil pressure restrictor fitting all installed, along with the Light Speed Engineering Plasma II ignition sensor fitted to the flywheel. The Airflow Performance electric fuel pump and filter all came with my engine from Bart too. Terry RV-8A finishing Seattle -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of erichweaver@cox.net Subject: RV-List: IO-360 B1B firewall forward kit --> RV-List message posted by: Greeetings. I am working on my 7A, and recently ordered a IO-360 B1B from AeroSport Power. I now want to order the firewall forward kit from Vans, but discovered there is nothing specifically tailored for that engine. The tech guy at Vans recommended ordering the O-360 FWF kit, with a few changes, which were just off the top of his head: (1) Substitute the VA-182 for the VA-149 bracket (for carrying the throttle and mixture cables I think) (2) Delete the gascolator (3) Add the FIA(?) pump and filter (fuel injector pump I presume); and (4) Get a 47-inch mixture cable instead of the 45-inch. I know there are plenty of IO-360s ou there. Does this list sound accurate and complete? thanks for any input. Erich Weaver ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:47:57 PM PST US From: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky) Subject: RE: RV-List: Re:FAA renewal of Medical and other crazy gov. ideas --> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky) I concur with that sentiment. Driver's license = 3rd class . -------------- Original message -------------- > --> RV-List message posted by: "Frank Stringham" > > Dennis and all you great flyers > > Now let me see, you have got to spend mucho dollars for the med tests, wait > for the FAA to make up it's mind on what they in their wisdom will allow and > what more they need, and do this in an untimiuly fashion and you have to > guess what tyhey may want, and they want this all done > annually.....................but.................you can drive in close > formation on the freeway at top speed surrounded by plenty of people to take > out IF you just MIGHT have a heart attack and you can do this with a drivers > lic. that renews probably every 5 years without all the expensive tests. I > say 3rd class same as drivers lic. Less hassel for the FAA (unless they are > looking for job preservation). Less expense for you the pilot. > > Frank @ SGU and SLC ................ > > > >From: "Glaeser, Dennis A" > >Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com > >To: > >Subject: RV-List: Re:FAA renewal of Medical > >Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:58:55 -0400 > > > >--> RV-List message posted by: "Glaeser, Dennis A" > > > >I have a special issuance medical due to a 'mild' heart attack in 1993 > >(no surgery, no angioplasty - treated with just medication). I didn't > >get my medical renewed until 2004 for other reasons (relocation, job, > >family...). > > > >For my first renewal I had to get a Stress test and Stress Echo > >(echocardiogram immediately after stopping the stress test). It took 3 > >months (and follow-up by the AOPA) but I got my 3rd class - good for > >only 1 year. This year I needed 'just' a Stress test. It took from the > >end of May, when I sent the info to the FAA until mid August for them to > >respond - and then they said I had forgotten to get my cardiologist to > >send a letter with the stress test results, so I didn't get my renewal > >until October (good until next Oct). I did call OKC every couple of > >weeks starting in Aug to check on the status. I had spoken to one of > >the Aero medical doctors at OSH and he suggested that I do that. He > >checked my info on-line at OSH and said everything looked in order - he > >didn't say anything about not having the doctor's letter. He even gave > >me his card, and said I should call if there were any problems. When I > >hadn't heard anything by mid-Aug, even after calling OKC, I called his > >office and they checked and said the same thing OKC said (in-process). > > > >As far as "numbers" - the only one I know they are looking for is 100% > >heart rate (a function of age - I don't recall the formula) during the > >stress test. They want the tracings for review, but I have no idea what > >they are looking for. Same for the echo cardiogram. > > > >I would definitely call OKC and ask to speak with the person reviewing > >your application to find out what their concerns are. > > > >Good luck! > > > > Dennis Glaeser > > 7A Wings > > > >do not archive > > > > > > > > > > I concur with that sentiment. Driver's license = 3rd class . -------------- Original message -------------- -- RV-List message posted by: "Frank Stringham" Dennis and all you great flyers Now let me see, you have got to spend mucho dollars for the med tests, wait for the FAA to make up it's mind on what they in their wisdom will allow and what more they need, and do this in an untimiuly fashion and you have to guess what tyhey may want, and they want this all done annually.....................but.................you can drive in close formation on the freeway at top speed surrounded by plenty of people to take out IF you just MIGHT have a heart attack and you can do this with a drivers lic. that renews probably every 5 years without all the expensive tests. I say 3rd class same as drivers lic. Less hass el for the FAA (unless they are looking for job preservation). Less expense for you the pilot. Frank @ SGU and SLC ................ From: "Glaeser, Dennis A" Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com To: Subject: RV-List: Re:FAA renewal of Medical Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:58:55 -0400 -- RV-List message posted by: "Glaeser, Dennis A" I have a special issuance medical due to a 'mild' heart attack in 1993 (no surgery, no angioplasty - treated with just medication). I didn't get my medical renewed until 2004 for other reasons (relocation, job, family...). For my first renewal I had to get a Stress test and Stress Echo (echocardiogram immediately after stopping the stress test ). It took 3 months (and follow-up by the AOPA) but I got my 3rd class - good for only 1 year. This year I needed 'just' a Stress test. It took from the end of May, when I sent the info to the FAA until mid August for them to respond - and then they said I had forgotten to get my cardiologist to send a letter with the stress test results, so I didn't get my renewal until October (good until next Oct). I did call OKC every couple of weeks starting in Aug to check on the status. I had spoken to one of the Aero medical doctors at OSH and he suggested that I do that. He checked my info on-line at OSH and said everything looked in order - he didn't say anything about not having the doctor's letter. He even gave me his card, and said I should call if there were any problems. When I hadn't heard anything by mid-Aug, even after c alling OKC, I called his office and they checked and said the same thing OKC said (in-process). As far as "numbers" - the only one I know they are looking for is 100% heart rate (a function of age - I don't recall the formula) during the stress test. They want the tracings for review, but I have no idea what they are looking for. Same for the echo cardiogram. I would definitely call OKC and ask to speak with the person reviewing your application to find out what their concerns are. Good luck! Dennis Glaeser 7A Wings do not archive the many List utilities such as the Subscriptions page, ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:32:56 PM PST US From: "JOHN STARN" Subject: RV-List: Looking for someplace to go on Sat. Oct. 29th..... "rocket-list" , INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.0036 1.0000 -4.4384;INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.0036 1.0000 -4.4384 --> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" Apple Valley Airport (APV) will be holding an Open House on Saturday Oct 29th from 9am-3pm. There will be aircraft & cars on display. Just like last year there will be a free breakfast for those flying in and/or displaying and "People Choice" trophies will be awarded. Fly Bys and formation approach to landing are encouraged but are at pilots discretion. There will NOT be an AirBoss for flights but where will be ground parking control at the normal APV Unicom 122.8. KABONG ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:43:38 PM PST US From: "JOHN STARN" Subject: RV-List: Looking for someplace to go on Sat. Oct. 29th..... "rocket-list" , "INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.0036 1.0000 -4.4384" , "IMB Recipient 1" --> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" --> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" Apple Valley Airport (APV) will be holding an Open House on Saturday Oct 29th from 9am-3pm. There will be aircraft & cars on display. Just like last year there will be a free breakfast for those flying in and/or displaying and "People Choice" trophies will be awarded. Fly Bys and formation approach to landing are encouraged but are at pilots discretion. There will NOT be an AirBoss for flights but where will be ground parking control at the normal APV Unicom 122.8. KABONG ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:03:17 PM PST US From: "glaesers" Subject: RV-List: RE: Re:FAA renewal of Medical and other crazy gov. ideas --> RV-List message posted by: "glaesers" I agree wholeheartedly (no pun intended) !!!!!!!!! Dennis Glaeser --> RV-List message posted by: "Frank Stringham" Dennis and all you great flyers Now let me see, you have got to spend mucho dollars for the med tests, wait for the FAA to make up it's mind on what they in their wisdom will allow and what more they need, and do this in an untimiuly fashion and you have to guess what tyhey may want, and they want this all done annually.....................but.................you can drive in close formation on the freeway at top speed surrounded by plenty of people to take out IF you just MIGHT have a heart attack and you can do this with a drivers lic. that renews probably every 5 years without all the expensive tests. I say 3rd class same as drivers lic. Less hassel for the FAA (unless they are looking for job preservation). Less expense for you the pilot. Frank @ SGU and SLC ................