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1. 07:47 AM - Re: IO-360 B1B firewall forward kit (Mike Robertson)
2. 08:18 AM - Re: IO-360 B1B firewall forward kit (Kelly McMullen)
3. 08:20 AM - Re: FAA renewal of Medical (Hull, Don)
4. 09:05 AM - Re: IO-360 B1B firewall forward kit (Mike Robertson)
5. 10:55 AM - Any builders in Utah (SLC or OGD) or Surrounding area (gerns25@netscape.net)
6. 11:18 AM - Re: IO-360 B1B firewall forward kit (Oliver Washburn)
7. 01:17 PM - Re: IO-360 B1B firewall forward kit (Skylor Piper)
8. 04:38 PM - Re: Re: Re:FAA renewal of Medical and other crazy gov. ideas (Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club)
9. 07:21 PM - Dynon + panel tilt? (Ed Bundy)
10. 08:02 PM - Re: FAA renewal of Medical (Vanremog@aol.com)
11. 08:11 PM - http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse/rv-list/0089.html (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
12. 08:29 PM - Re: http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse/rv-list/0089.html (Kelly McMullen)
13. 08:32 PM - Re: http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse/rv-list/0089.html (Ed Anderson)
14. 09:01 PM - Re: http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse/rv-list/0089.html (Bruce Gray)
15. 09:10 PM - Re: Dynon + panel tilt? (Jeff Point)
16. 09:14 PM - Re: Dynon + panel tilt? (Jim Jewell)
17. 09:27 PM - Re: Dynon + panel tilt? (Ed Holyoke)
18. 09:30 PM - Re: I wonder ?????? (Frank Stringham)
19. 11:51 PM - Re: Any builders in Utah (SLC or OGD) or Surrounding area (Albert Gardner)
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| Subject: | IO-360 B1B firewall forward kit |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
Just order the IO-360-A1A kit and everything should fit fine. The B1B is
the same as the A1A except it has slick magnetos instead of Bendix. Most
A1A's come with Slick magnetos these days anyways, so they are virtually the
same.
Mike Robertson
>From: <erichweaver@cox.net>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: IO-360 B1B firewall forward kit
>Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:18:27 -0400
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: <erichweaver@cox.net>
>
>Greeetings.
>
>I am working on my 7A, and recently ordered a IO-360 B1B from AeroSport
>Power. I now want to order the firewall forward kit from Vans, but
>discovered there is nothing specifically tailored for that engine. The
>tech guy at Vans recommended ordering the O-360 FWF kit, with a few
>changes, which were just off the top of his head:
>
>(1) Substitute the VA-182 for the VA-149 bracket (for carrying the throttle
>and mixture cables I think)
>
>(2) Delete the gascolator
>
>(3) Add the FIA(?) pump and filter (fuel injector pump I presume); and
>
>(4) Get a 47-inch mixture cable instead of the 45-inch.
>
>I know there are plenty of IO-360s ou there. Does this list sound accurate
>and complete?
>
>thanks for any input.
>
>Erich Weaver
>
>
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| Subject: | IO-360 B1B firewall forward kit |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
Hmmmm, isn't the IO360B1B a 180hp with parallel valve cylinders?
The A1A is the 200hp with angle valve cylinders. The case is probably the
same externally, but the sump would be different, and the overall engine
width would be different. May not matter as to the FWF components, but the
difference is definitely NOT the mags. I don't have my parts book handy to
verify what components are in the B!B, but I own an A1A, so I know what it
has.
ALL Lycomings come with Slick mags, except for the -D engines with the
infamous "dual mag" Bendix. Lycoming doesn't want to buy mags from TCM.
Same reason Cessna switched all their singles to Lycomings. Textron owns
both companies and doesn't want Teledyne Continental to get the business.
In most cases, the last letter told you which type of mag. O-360 A1A was
impulse coupled IIRC, while the O360 A1D was shower of sparks mags.
Mike Robertson said:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
>
> Just order the IO-360-A1A kit and everything should fit fine. The B1B is
> the same as the A1A except it has slick magnetos instead of Bendix. Most
> A1A's come with Slick magnetos these days anyways, so they are virtually
> the
> same.
>
> Mike Robertson
>
>
>>From: <erichweaver@cox.net>
>>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: RV-List: IO-360 B1B firewall forward kit
>>Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:18:27 -0400
>>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: <erichweaver@cox.net>
>>
>>Greeetings.
>>
>>I am working on my 7A, and recently ordered a IO-360 B1B from AeroSport
>>Power. I now want to order the firewall forward kit from Vans, but
>>discovered there is nothing specifically tailored for that engine. The
>>tech guy at Vans recommended ordering the O-360 FWF kit, with a few
>>changes, which were just off the top of his head:
>>
>>(1) Substitute the VA-182 for the VA-149 bracket (for carrying the
>> throttle
>>and mixture cables I think)
>>
>>(2) Delete the gascolator
>>
>>(3) Add the FIA(?) pump and filter (fuel injector pump I presume); and
>>
>>(4) Get a 47-inch mixture cable instead of the 45-inch.
>>
>>I know there are plenty of IO-360s ou there. Does this list sound
>> accurate
>>and complete?
>>
>>thanks for any input.
>>
>>Erich Weaver
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | FAA renewal of Medical |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Hull, Don" <Donald.C.Hull@nasa.gov>
Hi Bert,
Don't give up. They want you to give up. You've already received some
good advice, but to reiterate, use all available resources, i.e., AOPA,
EAA, your AME. (The EAA has some excellent medical advice available
just for the asking.) THEN, even though it is exasperating, complete and
return ALL information they ask for via certified mail, return receipt.
My dad had heart valve replacement surgery TWICE and he was able to get
his Class III medical for 6 months at a time. He had to have stress
tests and Echo Cardiograms (and maybe some other exams) every 6 months.
(He did have good health insurance which surprisingly paid for most of
it.) After about 3 cycles of their delays, he got smart and started the
paperwork and tests in the 3rd month, so he could submit it in the 4th
month, and then he dogged them on the status every week, so he could
have his next 6 month approval in time to keep flying uninterrupted. He
did this for several years until they told him he couldn't fly anymore
at the age of 84. And by the way, if he had not been able to fly, I, as
well as his instructor, would have stepped in and told him so.
Again, if you really want to fly, don't give up!
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
bertrv6@highstream.net
Subject: RV-List: FAA renewal of Medical
--> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net
Hi:
For the past four months now, I have had the most horrible experience
with the FAA.. I will not bore every-one that reads this, with all the
details.
Some high lites,, I have had to send all documents requested
at least three times... also by fax...
Keep receiving letters from different people, asking for documents, I
have
mailed to the other person who signed the letter...
NOw after four months, they ask for a complete Stress test, including
the Echo Cardiogram etc...My question is, does any one know, what the
numbers
are, for some one 67? that is, what would be the passing grades on these
test.
I have tried to get some info, from the FAA they said they cannot give
any
info, that will be based on the results...
These test are going to cost me hundreds of dollars, as medicare will
not pay
unless, is requesteds by my Physician no?
And after all this, the FAA can said, medical denied...I DOP NOT
TAKE
ANY MEDICINES, EXCEPT LIPITOR 10 MG.
I did get some help from AOPA, they suggested, that when mailing any
document
to send them, certified mail, return receipt. They gave me the address
to do this, since the envelopes FAA send have the box address...
I did that the last time, 2 weeks after I have not received the
confirmation.
Also I get letters from them, 2 weeks after the date on the letter, and
of
course, it says, if you do not send requested info. within 30 days, the
request for madical will cancell...well I do not have 30 days, I haved 2
weeks
It is unbelievable.....
Appreciate any suggestions or Info.
Bert
rv6a
DO nOT aRCHIVE
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| Subject: | IO-360 B1B firewall forward kit |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
I stand corrected. You are corrrect. I was just looking at the differences
part of the Lycoming engine directory. The B1B is a parallel valve engine
180 HP.
Mike Robertson
>From: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV-List: IO-360 B1B firewall forward kit
>Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 08:15:08 -0700 (MST)
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
>
>Hmmmm, isn't the IO360B1B a 180hp with parallel valve cylinders?
>The A1A is the 200hp with angle valve cylinders. The case is probably the
>same externally, but the sump would be different, and the overall engine
>width would be different. May not matter as to the FWF components, but the
>difference is definitely NOT the mags. I don't have my parts book handy to
>verify what components are in the B!B, but I own an A1A, so I know what it
>has.
>ALL Lycomings come with Slick mags, except for the -D engines with the
>infamous "dual mag" Bendix. Lycoming doesn't want to buy mags from TCM.
>Same reason Cessna switched all their singles to Lycomings. Textron owns
>both companies and doesn't want Teledyne Continental to get the business.
>In most cases, the last letter told you which type of mag. O-360 A1A was
>impulse coupled IIRC, while the O360 A1D was shower of sparks mags.
>
>Mike Robertson said:
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Just order the IO-360-A1A kit and everything should fit fine. The B1B
>is
> > the same as the A1A except it has slick magnetos instead of Bendix.
>Most
> > A1A's come with Slick magnetos these days anyways, so they are virtually
> > the
> > same.
> >
> > Mike Robertson
> >
> >
> >>From: <erichweaver@cox.net>
> >>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> >>Subject: RV-List: IO-360 B1B firewall forward kit
> >>Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:18:27 -0400
> >>
> >>--> RV-List message posted by: <erichweaver@cox.net>
> >>
> >>Greeetings.
> >>
> >>I am working on my 7A, and recently ordered a IO-360 B1B from AeroSport
> >>Power. I now want to order the firewall forward kit from Vans, but
> >>discovered there is nothing specifically tailored for that engine. The
> >>tech guy at Vans recommended ordering the O-360 FWF kit, with a few
> >>changes, which were just off the top of his head:
> >>
> >>(1) Substitute the VA-182 for the VA-149 bracket (for carrying the
> >> throttle
> >>and mixture cables I think)
> >>
> >>(2) Delete the gascolator
> >>
> >>(3) Add the FIA(?) pump and filter (fuel injector pump I presume); and
> >>
> >>(4) Get a 47-inch mixture cable instead of the 45-inch.
> >>
> >>I know there are plenty of IO-360s ou there. Does this list sound
> >> accurate
> >>and complete?
> >>
> >>thanks for any input.
> >>
> >>Erich Weaver
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Any builders in Utah (SLC or OGD) or Surrounding area |
--> RV-List message posted by: gerns25@netscape.net
I am getting ready to purchase and start construction on an RV7. I have been told
that the builder community of RV's is amazing and judging from this forum,
I would agree. This will be my first airplane construction project (I owned
a kitfox that was built by a local guy here so I have a bit of experience maintaining
aircraft) so I would like to get to know some local guys that have "been
there, done that" that I can talk to and hopefully get some tips and tricks
from. Obviously, any moral support and words of encouragement to keep working
and finish the project are always welcome. I would love to talk to anyone who
is currently building, flying or otherwise doing something related to any of
the Vans Aircraft line. Thanks guys and I hope to be joining in on the forum
with my own project, and at some point flying, RV7!
Darin Hawkes
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| Subject: | Re: IO-360 B1B firewall forward kit |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Oliver Washburn" <ollie6a@earthlink.net>
My ANA is 180 hp and parallel valve cylinders. The Cardinal I had was 200hp
IO360A16BD with angle valves.
Ollie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: IO-360 B1B firewall forward kit
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
>
> I stand corrected. You are corrrect. I was just looking at the
> differences
> part of the Lycoming engine directory. The B1B is a parallel valve engine
> 180 HP.
>
> Mike Robertson
>
>
>>From: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
>>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RE: RV-List: IO-360 B1B firewall forward kit
>>Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 08:15:08 -0700 (MST)
>>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
>>
>>Hmmmm, isn't the IO360B1B a 180hp with parallel valve cylinders?
>>The A1A is the 200hp with angle valve cylinders. The case is probably the
>>same externally, but the sump would be different, and the overall engine
>>width would be different. May not matter as to the FWF components, but the
>>difference is definitely NOT the mags. I don't have my parts book handy to
>>verify what components are in the B!B, but I own an A1A, so I know what it
>>has.
>>ALL Lycomings come with Slick mags, except for the -D engines with the
>>infamous "dual mag" Bendix. Lycoming doesn't want to buy mags from TCM.
>>Same reason Cessna switched all their singles to Lycomings. Textron owns
>>both companies and doesn't want Teledyne Continental to get the business.
>>In most cases, the last letter told you which type of mag. O-360 A1A was
>>impulse coupled IIRC, while the O360 A1D was shower of sparks mags.
>>
>>Mike Robertson said:
>> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson"
>> > <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
>> >
>> > Just order the IO-360-A1A kit and everything should fit fine. The B1B
>>is
>> > the same as the A1A except it has slick magnetos instead of Bendix.
>>Most
>> > A1A's come with Slick magnetos these days anyways, so they are
>> > virtually
>> > the
>> > same.
>> >
>> > Mike Robertson
>> >
>> >
>> >>From: <erichweaver@cox.net>
>> >>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>> >>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>> >>Subject: RV-List: IO-360 B1B firewall forward kit
>> >>Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:18:27 -0400
>> >>
>> >>--> RV-List message posted by: <erichweaver@cox.net>
>> >>
>> >>Greeetings.
>> >>
>> >>I am working on my 7A, and recently ordered a IO-360 B1B from AeroSport
>> >>Power. I now want to order the firewall forward kit from Vans, but
>> >>discovered there is nothing specifically tailored for that engine. The
>> >>tech guy at Vans recommended ordering the O-360 FWF kit, with a few
>> >>changes, which were just off the top of his head:
>> >>
>> >>(1) Substitute the VA-182 for the VA-149 bracket (for carrying the
>> >> throttle
>> >>and mixture cables I think)
>> >>
>> >>(2) Delete the gascolator
>> >>
>> >>(3) Add the FIA(?) pump and filter (fuel injector pump I presume); and
>> >>
>> >>(4) Get a 47-inch mixture cable instead of the 45-inch.
>> >>
>> >>I know there are plenty of IO-360s ou there. Does this list sound
>> >> accurate
>> >>and complete?
>> >>
>> >>thanks for any input.
>> >>
>> >>Erich Weaver
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: IO-360 B1B firewall forward kit |
--> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com>
Refer the this document on Can Checkoway's website to
tell the difference between IO-360's
http://images.rvproject.com/tcds/lycoming-io-360.pdf
A parallel valve 180 horse "A1A" is probably an
O-360-A1A, or one that was converted to fuel
injection.
Skylor
RV-8
Under Construction
--- Oliver Washburn <ollie6a@earthlink.net> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Oliver Washburn"
> <ollie6a@earthlink.net>
>
> My ANA is 180 hp and parallel valve cylinders. The
> Cardinal I had was 200hp
> IO360A16BD with angle valves.
> Ollie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Robertson" <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: RV-List: IO-360 B1B firewall forward
> kit
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson"
> <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
> >
> > I stand corrected. You are corrrect. I was just
> looking at the
> > differences
> > part of the Lycoming engine directory. The B1B is
> a parallel valve engine
> > 180 HP.
> >
> > Mike Robertson
> >
> >
> >>From: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
> >>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >>To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >>Subject: RE: RV-List: IO-360 B1B firewall forward
> kit
> >>Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 08:15:08 -0700 (MST)
> >>
> >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Kelly McMullen"
> <kellym@aviating.com>
> >>
> >>Hmmmm, isn't the IO360B1B a 180hp with parallel
> valve cylinders?
> >>The A1A is the 200hp with angle valve cylinders.
> The case is probably the
> >>same externally, but the sump would be different,
> and the overall engine
> >>width would be different. May not matter as to the
> FWF components, but the
> >>difference is definitely NOT the mags. I don't
> have my parts book handy to
> >>verify what components are in the B!B, but I own
> an A1A, so I know what it
> >>has.
> >>ALL Lycomings come with Slick mags, except for the
> -D engines with the
> >>infamous "dual mag" Bendix. Lycoming doesn't want
> to buy mags from TCM.
> >>Same reason Cessna switched all their singles to
> Lycomings. Textron owns
> >>both companies and doesn't want Teledyne
> Continental to get the business.
> >>In most cases, the last letter told you which type
> of mag. O-360 A1A was
> >>impulse coupled IIRC, while the O360 A1D was
> shower of sparks mags.
> >>
> >>Mike Robertson said:
> >> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Robertson"
>
> >> > <mrobert569@hotmail.com>
> >> >
> >> > Just order the IO-360-A1A kit and everything
> should fit fine. The B1B
> >>is
> >> > the same as the A1A except it has slick
> magnetos instead of Bendix.
> >>Most
> >> > A1A's come with Slick magnetos these days
> anyways, so they are
> >> > virtually
> >> > the
> >> > same.
> >> >
> >> > Mike Robertson
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>From: <erichweaver@cox.net>
> >> >>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >> >>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> >> >>Subject: RV-List: IO-360 B1B firewall forward
> kit
> >> >>Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:18:27 -0400
> >> >>
> >> >>--> RV-List message posted by:
> <erichweaver@cox.net>
> >> >>
> >> >>Greeetings.
> >> >>
> >> >>I am working on my 7A, and recently ordered a
> IO-360 B1B from AeroSport
> >> >>Power. I now want to order the firewall
> forward kit from Vans, but
> >> >>discovered there is nothing specifically
> tailored for that engine. The
> >> >>tech guy at Vans recommended ordering the O-360
> FWF kit, with a few
> >> >>changes, which were just off the top of his
> head:
> >> >>
> >> >>(1) Substitute the VA-182 for the VA-149
> bracket (for carrying the
> >> >> throttle
> >> >>and mixture cables I think)
> >> >>
> >> >>(2) Delete the gascolator
> >> >>
> >> >>(3) Add the FIA(?) pump and filter (fuel
> injector pump I presume); and
> >> >>
> >> >>(4) Get a 47-inch mixture cable instead of the
> 45-inch.
> >> >>
> >> >>I know there are plenty of IO-360s ou there.
> Does this list sound
> >> >> accurate
> >> >>and complete?
> >> >>
> >> >>thanks for any input.
> >> >>
> >> >>Erich Weaver
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Re:FAA renewal of Medical and other crazy gov. ideas |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
glaesers wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "glaesers" <glaesers@wideopenwest.com>
>
>I agree wholeheartedly (no pun intended) !!!!!!!!!
>
> Dennis Glaeser
>
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Frank Stringham" <fstringham@hotmail.com>
>
>Dennis and all you great flyers
>
>Now let me see, you have got to spend mucho dollars for the med tests, wait
>for the FAA to make up it's mind on what they in their wisdom will allow and
>what more they need, and do this in an untimiuly fashion and you have to
>guess what tyhey may want, and they want this all done
>annually.....................but.................you can drive in close
>formation on the freeway at top speed surrounded by plenty of people to take
>out IF you just MIGHT have a heart attack and you can do this with a drivers
>lic. that renews probably every 5 years without all the expensive tests. I
>say 3rd class same as drivers lic. Less hassel for the FAA (unless they are
>looking for job preservation). Less expense for you the pilot.
>
>Frank @ SGU and SLC ................
>
>
I say 3rd class, 2nd class, and 1st class should be the same as drivers license...
If a company wants to give you a flight physical before they hire you, OK...
I hate 80 year old regulations that were put on the books just so the politicians
could justify their jobs...... I also hate new regulations that are made just
so the Senator can boast about the laws he made....
phil in Illinois
do not archive
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| Subject: | Dynon + panel tilt? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Bundy" <ebundy@speedyquick.net>
I just bought an EFIS and an EMS from Dynon and I couldn't find anything in
the archives about the panel tilt in a 6a. The docs say to mount the EFIS
as close to the longitudinal axis of the aircraft as possible. Do you shim
the face of the unit, or?
Thanks,
Ed Bundy
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| Subject: | Re: FAA renewal of Medical |
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 10/20/2005 8:23:03 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
Donald.C.Hull@nasa.gov writes:
Don't give up. They want you to give up. You've already received some
good advice, but to reiterate, use all available resources, i.e., AOPA,
EAA, your AME. (The EAA has some excellent medical advice available
just for the asking.) THEN, even though it is exasperating, complete and
return ALL information they ask for via certified mail, return receipt.
===========================================
Another thing everyone should do to bring this issue to a head, is to call
CAMI and check the status of your deferred medical EVERYDAY, not every week.
The Civil Aerospace Medical Institute (CAMI) phone number in Okie City is
405-954-4821. Your documentation can be faxed to them during normal working
hours at 405-954-4300 and then followed up with a call to expedite getting it
scanned into the computer, as they have a two week delay now on mailed in
documents (since 9/11/01) for mail to be screened for anthrax spores and then
scanned into the computer.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 767hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)
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--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
I hold a class A commercial drivers license and can drive my big diesel
truck anywhere , but the Fatherless Aviation Administration denied my class 3
medical after I passed the stress test and sent letters from my cardiologist
and internal medicine specialist stating that I was no more likely to be
incapicated than anyone else in the general population.
I don't have the faintest idea what they want !!!! I can't afford big time
lawyers,etc. so I just bought a Honda Goldwing and guess I will sell our
61 hour RV-4.
Or maybe just fly anyway ?????????
Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
Charleston,Arkansas
Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
Don't give up. You only need a licensed private pilot ASEL to ride with you
until you get the medical.
Try www.aviationmedicine.com for assistence with the FAA. They are ex-FAA
folks and medical experts that specialize in getting folks special
issuances.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Oldsfolks@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse/rv-list/0089.html
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
I hold a class A commercial drivers license and can drive my big diesel
truck anywhere , but the Fatherless Aviation Administration denied my class
3
medical after I passed the stress test and sent letters from my
cardiologist
and internal medicine specialist stating that I was no more likely to be
incapicated than anyone else in the general population.
I don't have the faintest idea what they want !!!! I can't afford big
time
lawyers,etc. so I just bought a Honda Goldwing and guess I will sell our
61 hour RV-4.
Or maybe just fly anyway ?????????
Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
Charleston,Arkansas
Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
This sort of reminds me of a different - but similar bureaucracy which
required periodic lie-detector tests -without any specific cause. After a
number years of this periodic harassment, it was apparent that this part of
the organization justified its budget (and growth) on the number of people
that it "caught" or flunked their "tests". I mean - how could you possibly
justify a multimillion dollar budget, people, equipment and facilities if
you only "caught" one or two a year - think about it.
I finally confronted their management with my view point - my next test
time, I required three tests/retry to pass - I am convinced I only passed
because I refused to say "Uncle" and kept insisting on another poly - did I
"pass". I think the message from management was very clear.
Not saying by any means that there are not valid failures of tests, there
certainly are - but it is equally clear that jobs, positions, etc are at
stake and they are based not on the number of people that pass a test but on
the number that fail or at least the number that require "extensive" study
and scrutiny..
Ed A
----- Original Message -----
From: <Oldsfolks@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse/rv-list/0089.html
> --> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
>
> I hold a class A commercial drivers license and can drive my big diesel
> truck anywhere , but the Fatherless Aviation Administration denied my
> class 3
> medical after I passed the stress test and sent letters from my
> cardiologist
> and internal medicine specialist stating that I was no more likely to be
> incapicated than anyone else in the general population.
> I don't have the faintest idea what they want !!!! I can't afford big
> time
> lawyers,etc. so I just bought a Honda Goldwing and guess I will sell our
> 61 hour RV-4.
> Or maybe just fly anyway ?????????
>
> Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
> A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
> Charleston,Arkansas
> Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
I just don't see why we put up with this garbage. I remember a local GIII
pilot here who had a rare lung disease. He went in and took his 3rd class,
but half way through the exam he started to get light headed and gave the
flight surgeon some excuse to go to his car. He then hyperventilated on some
pure O2 he had, went back inside and passed his physical. Sure he lied, but
he died (in bed) 3 days after his physical, so I guess he doesn't care.
Lets look at what the FAA doc is looking for at a 3rd class exam. Eyes
(vision), Blood pressure, any surgeries?, sugar in the urine? Anything else,
unless you have a big scar down the center of your chest, they aren't going
to find. They only know what you tell them.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Subject: Re: RV-List: http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse/rv-list/0089.html
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
Don't give up. You only need a licensed private pilot ASEL to ride with you
until you get the medical.
Try www.aviationmedicine.com for assistence with the FAA. They are ex-FAA
folks and medical experts that specialize in getting folks special
issuances.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Oldsfolks@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse/rv-list/0089.html
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
I hold a class A commercial drivers license and can drive my big diesel
truck anywhere , but the Fatherless Aviation Administration denied my class
3
medical after I passed the stress test and sent letters from my
cardiologist
and internal medicine specialist stating that I was no more likely to be
incapicated than anyone else in the general population.
I don't have the faintest idea what they want !!!! I can't afford big
time
lawyers,etc. so I just bought a Honda Goldwing and guess I will sell our
61 hour RV-4.
Or maybe just fly anyway ?????????
Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
Charleston,Arkansas
Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon + panel tilt? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Just mount the unit flush with the panel. You can adjust the 8 degree
tilt in the software by pushing a few buttons. I forget just now which
buttons, but it's all in the manual.
Jeff Point
RV-6 w/ D-10
Milwaukee
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon + panel tilt? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Hi Ed,
With a bit of practice using the buttons along the bottom of the display you
will be able to set the 8 degree tilt internally. It will all come clear
after you have played with the buttons and refered to the manual enough to
run down and re-charge the interal battery a few times (if you ordered the
internal battery that is?) :) One re-charge on the main battery should more
than do it. {[;-)
Jim in Kelowna in Kelowna- Epoxying the slider windshield.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Bundy" <ebundy@speedyquick.net>
Subject: RV-List: Dynon + panel tilt?
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Bundy" <ebundy@speedyquick.net>
>
> I just bought an EFIS and an EMS from Dynon and I couldn't find anything
> in
> the archives about the panel tilt in a 6a. The docs say to mount the EFIS
> as close to the longitudinal axis of the aircraft as possible. Do you
> shim
> the face of the unit, or?
>
> Thanks,
> Ed Bundy
>
>
> --
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Dynon + panel tilt? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" <bicyclop@pacbell.net>
Ed,
The panel tilt doesn't matter, in fact the D-10 in our 6-a is over
tilted several degrees (with washers under the lower mount studs) to
clear the canopy structure when closed. It works fine. You set the level
flight attitude on the display in flight and it remembers it evermore.
If you are going to use the external magnetic sensor, you have to set it
to match the panel mounted unit if I remember correctly. Call or e-mail
Michael Schofield [mike@dynonavionics.com] for technical questions. He
was very helpful to me when I had an issue. Have fun with it.
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Bundy
Subject: RV-List: Dynon + panel tilt?
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Bundy" <ebundy@speedyquick.net>
I just bought an EFIS and an EMS from Dynon and I couldn't find anything
in
the archives about the panel tilt in a 6a. The docs say to mount the
EFIS
as close to the longitudinal axis of the aircraft as possible. Do you
shim
the face of the unit, or?
Thanks,
Ed Bundy
--
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| Subject: | Re: I wonder ?????? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Frank Stringham" <fstringham@hotmail.com>
I wonder if we as GA pilots said, "we will no longer support this unfair
system of medical testing". In other words go on strike and fly when and
where we want without carrying the now all important medical. From grass
roots support, political activism, research as to how small the medical
problem is in flying incidences, and just plain not bowing to an invasion of
our freedom, we could change this to say the least poor system of
governance.
It is my contention that flying on the drivers lic., continued rigorous
flight reviews, self grounding when medical conditions warrant would creat
flying every bit as safe as the mythical notion of the gov, that they in
their big brotherism are protecting the public and us from ourselves.
The EAA, AOPA, and our viglence is the only thing standing between us and
the FAA from bring the whole of GA flying to a state of being grounded.
Expanded medical hoopes to jump through, closures of air space, and
unbelievable rules to certify aircraft are all done to either on purpose or
unknowingly bring our right and freedom to fly to a slow grinding halt.
Alone we will be an easy target for flight denial. Together we could change
this assault on our right to travel where we want, when we want, and how we
want.
So with all this said I will now go back to pounding rivets, working out my
electrical needs, and trying to figure where to get the $$$$$$$$$$$ to
finish my project, and just hope my health holds long enough so I can have
the thrill that many of you have experieced of flying the plane you built.
By the way any good advice in regards to ex-bus or fuses or circuit
breakers.
Thanks for all the info you great people give....................
Frank @ SGU and SLC RV7A Fuse about done with the finish kit inventoried
>From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: RV-List: http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse/rv-list/0089.html
>Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 23:31:47 -0400
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
>
>This sort of reminds me of a different - but similar bureaucracy which
>required periodic lie-detector tests -without any specific cause. After a
>number years of this periodic harassment, it was apparent that this part of
>the organization justified its budget (and growth) on the number of people
>that it "caught" or flunked their "tests". I mean - how could you possibly
>justify a multimillion dollar budget, people, equipment and facilities if
>you only "caught" one or two a year - think about it.
>
>I finally confronted their management with my view point - my next test
>time, I required three tests/retry to pass - I am convinced I only passed
>because I refused to say "Uncle" and kept insisting on another poly - did I
>"pass". I think the message from management was very clear.
>
>Not saying by any means that there are not valid failures of tests, there
>certainly are - but it is equally clear that jobs, positions, etc are at
>stake and they are based not on the number of people that pass a test but
>on
>the number that fail or at least the number that require "extensive" study
>and scrutiny..
>
>Ed A
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <Oldsfolks@aol.com>
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse/rv-list/0089.html
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
> >
> > I hold a class A commercial drivers license and can drive my big
>diesel
> > truck anywhere , but the Fatherless Aviation Administration denied my
> > class 3
> > medical after I passed the stress test and sent letters from my
> > cardiologist
> > and internal medicine specialist stating that I was no more likely to
>be
> > incapicated than anyone else in the general population.
> > I don't have the faintest idea what they want !!!! I can't afford big
> > time
> > lawyers,etc. so I just bought a Honda Goldwing and guess I will sell
>our
> > 61 hour RV-4.
> > Or maybe just fly anyway ?????????
> >
> > Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
> > A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
> > Charleston,Arkansas
> > Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Any builders in Utah (SLC or OGD) or Surrounding area |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@adelphia.net>
I used the chapter locator at EAA.ORG and found these two chapters. If you
haven't visited your local EAA chapter you are missing one of the greatest
resources any kit builder could ever want. Check them out.
Albert Gardner
EAA Chapter 590 http://www.eaa590.org
Yuma, AZ
EAA Chapter 58, Ogden, UT http://www.westacon.com/eaa/index.htm
EAA Chapter 23, Salt Lake City, UT http://www.eaa23.org/
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