---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 11/04/05: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:10 AM - "What's my Contribution used for?" [PLEASE READ!] (Matt Dralle) 2. 03:34 AM - Jack Norris Propeller book (Mickey Coggins) 3. 04:16 AM - The DC ADIZ NPRM (alan@reichertech.com) 4. 05:04 AM - Re: Jack Norris Propeller book (RV6 Flyer) 5. 05:59 AM - Any ideas for a heat diffuser on an old 6 (Jeff Dowling) 6. 06:01 AM - Re: RE-OIL COOLER FITTING (Jeff Dowling) 7. 06:14 AM - Re: Any ideas for a heat diffuser on an old 6 (linn walters) 8. 07:10 AM - Re: voltage regulator? (Glaeser, Dennis A) 9. 07:33 AM - Re: TruTrak with Navaid Servo (Dan DeNeal) 10. 07:36 AM - Re: Nosegear to engine mount attach bolt 6A INNOCENT (Richard Seiders) 11. 07:38 AM - Re: Chrome-plating for Gretz Heated Pitot? (Evan and Megan Johnson) 12. 08:03 AM - Looking for Bob Hoffman () 13. 08:30 AM - Re: Wing spar main Bolt nut size (Greg Young) 14. 03:17 PM - Re: Re: voltage regulator? (LarryRobertHelming) 15. 04:31 PM - Re: TruTrak with Navaid Servo (Vanremog@aol.com) 16. 05:31 PM - Fw: Fly-in (Oliver Washburn) 17. 06:46 PM - Re: TruTrak with Navaid Servo (bertrv6@highstream.net) 18. 07:45 PM - Finally fixed my 6A nose wheel shimmy (Ron Lee) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:10:30 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV-List: "What's my Contribution used for?" [PLEASE READ!] --> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Dear Listers, Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?", and this is certainly a valid question. Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables. It provides for the very expensive, business-class, high-speed T1 Internet connection used on the List, insuring maximum performance and minimal contention when accessing List services. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for services such as the Archive Search Engine and List Browser. It pays for 16+ years worth of online archive data available for instant random access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power this List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, and PhotoShare. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. How many places on the Internet can you make all those statements about these days? I will venture to say - next to none... It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many desirable aspects of this most valuable List service. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport... List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:34:26 AM PST US From: Mickey Coggins Subject: RV-List: Jack Norris Propeller book --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins There was a fellow named Jack Norris at Oshkosh handing out fliers for a book he had written about propellers. I ordered one, but I have not received it. Has anyone else ordered and received this book? Thanks, Mickey -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 finishing do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:16:17 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: The DC ADIZ NPRM From: alan@reichertech.com --> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com Hello, All! Please pardon this intrusion. This note is not specific to your particular list, but regardless of what you are building, restoring, or flying, an issue exists that could potentially affect all of you who fly in the United States. That issue is the Washington DC ADIZ. This ADIZ was put into effect as a temporary protective measure for Washington DC airspace after 9/11. There is now an NPRM out to make this airspace *permanent*. The original comment period for this NPRM expired yesterday, November 2. However, the FAA has now extended the comment period for another 90 days, so if you did not get your comments in, HERE IS YOUR CHANCE! Information on the ADIZ, and why we are fighting it, can be found here: http://www.aopa.org/adizalert/ I live underneath the current DC ADIZ, so I get to play with this every time I fly. The AOPA page above gives a good summary of what has happened in this area since it's inception. Help on formulating comments for this NPRM can be found here: http://www.aopa.org/adizalert/help.html Comments on this NPRM can be submitted (online) to the DOT here: http://dms.dot.gov/submit/ Instructions on how to navigate and fill out the DOT page to submit your comments are available here: http://www.aopa.org/adizalert/faa_help.html There are over 18000 comments against this NPRM at this time. If yours is not one of them, please take the time now to submit your comments; every one helps. If this ADIZ becomes permanent, then there could be an ADIZ coming to an airspace near you in the future! I thank Matt for allowing me to send this to you. Even if you don't live near the DC area, please do what you can to protect your flying priviledges... submit your comments! Regards, -- Alan Reichert C-182 Driver/RV-8 Builder Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:04:11 AM PST US From: "RV6 Flyer" Subject: RE: RV-List: Jack Norris Propeller book --> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" Mickey: Mine also has not arrived. He did not cash the check either. Jack has a good reputation and I do not think he will take the money and run. I am betting he is behind on publication and waiting to cash check and send out. Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, 1,800 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com ----Original Message Follows---- From: Mickey Coggins Subject: RV-List: Jack Norris Propeller book --> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins There was a fellow named Jack Norris at Oshkosh handing out fliers for a book he had written about propellers. I ordered one, but I have not received it. Has anyone else ordered and received this book? Thanks, Mickey -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 finishing do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:59:30 AM PST US From: "Jeff Dowling" Subject: RV-List: Any ideas for a heat diffuser on an old 6 --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" The cold is coming and Im tired of having my passenger's toes nice and toasty while Im freezing. Has anyone come up with an easy solution to mix the air exiting the firewall from one side? Im thinking of just riveting a thin piece of al and bending it to some angle. Not sure how effective it will be though. Shemp/Jeff Dowling RV-6A, N915JD 235 hours Chicago/Louisville ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:01:26 AM PST US From: "Jeff Dowling" Subject: Re: RV-List: RE-OIL COOLER FITTING --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" Just to make sure I have a handle on this, Im guessing your engine doesnt have a vernatherm, right? shemp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruno" Subject: RV-List: RE-OIL COOLER FITTING > --> RV-List message posted by: Bruno > > Thanks to all for the good advices. > > > Mark, I like your setup but my oil cooler in mounted behind the # 4 > cylinder > so I don't have the room. I might dismantle the baffles and try to set up > some kind of door that I can open at will. > > > "See: http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry > > &log_id=5001 > > > The butterfly closes off the airflow very well, but I'd suspect a simple > > plate covering the INLET face of the cooler would achieve the same thing. > Might > > > be worth a try... > > > Mark > > > Pat & Larry > > I thought about plugging the front of the cooler but I > don't have too much room to work with, I'll try again next time I'm at the > hangar as it's the quickest solution.. > > > James > > I installed a new Vernatherm valve last spring and tested it prior > to installation; it did improve the temp a little bit but not enough. > > > I received a few ideas from Mahlon Russell at Mattituck and will check > them > out as soon as I can. > > > If you guys have any more ideas or pictures of a door system for your oil > cooler, feel free to send them my way, I will appreciate that. > > > Thanks > > > Bruno Dionne > > Rv4@videotron.ca > > > Do not archive > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:14:59 AM PST US From: linn walters Subject: Re: RV-List: Any ideas for a heat diffuser on an old 6 --> RV-List message posted by: linn walters Why not use a 12V computer fan to circulate the air? I don't know the construction under there!!! Just a thought!!! Linn do not archive Jeff Dowling wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" > >The cold is coming and Im tired of having my passenger's toes nice and toasty while Im freezing. Has anyone come up with an easy solution to mix the air exiting the firewall from one side? Im thinking of just riveting a thin piece of al and bending it to some angle. Not sure how effective it will be though. > >Shemp/Jeff Dowling >RV-6A, N915JD >235 hours >Chicago/Louisville > > > > -- Checked by AVG Free Edition. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:10:42 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Re: voltage regulator? From: "Glaeser, Dennis A" --> RV-List message posted by: "Glaeser, Dennis A" I suggest you post this to the AeroElectric list. Some of those experts don't monitor all the lists... Dennis Glaeser RV7A Wings --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Garrett" Subject: Re: RV-List: TruTrak with Navaid Servo --> RV-List message posted by: Dan DeNeal I use this setup in my rv6a and love the Digitrak. I do notice one quark though. When I first turn it on, it dips the right wing down and then levels it back to where it had been. Something I have to warn my passanger about as it is a little disorienting when it happens. Once the wings are level again it will follow the GPS 295 heading exactly as programed. I have also installed the alititude hold from Digitrak people. Makes for an easy cross country flight. I do not know if it is the combination of the Digitrak and the Navaid servo that causes this to dip the wing or whether this is something Digitrak just does. Dan DeNeal RV6a N256GD Ed Holyoke wrote: --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" Is anybody out there in list land using a TruTrak autopilot head with a Navaid servo? Not really happy with the Navaid, thinking about upgrading, and the Digitrak is cheaper than the EZ Pilot. Just wondering if anybody has tried this combo and how it works. Pax, Ed ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:36:01 AM PST US From: Richard Seiders GLOBAL 0.0000 1.0000 -4.4912 Subject: Re: RV-List: Nosegear to engine mount attach bolt 6A INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.0000 1.0000 -4.4912 --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Seiders GLOBAL 0.0000 1.0000 -4.4912 Ralph, relieve the firewall by tapping with a ballpeen hammer to get the clearance. It works. Dick RV6A comp. 2002 At 03:52 PM 11/3/2005, you wrote: >--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" > >Fellow builders, > >How are you handling the aft side of the bolt that attaches the nosegear >leg to the engine mount as it contacts the firewall? > >It looks like it will fit without cutting a hole and putting in a plug - >but it will be touching the firewall and placing some force against it. > >If you've cut a hole and put in a plug - please provide details - hole >size - where you got the plug, how it's sealed, etc.... > >Thanks, >Ralph Capen >RV6AQB N822AR N06 - Firewall forward. > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:38:06 AM PST US From: "Evan and Megan Johnson" Subject: Re: RV-List: Chrome-plating for Gretz Heated Pitot? --> RV-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" You could buy mine.....they are powdercoated aluminum :) Evan Johnson www.evansaviationproducts.com (530)247-0375 (530)351-1776 cell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Dowling" Subject: Re: RV-List: Chrome-plating for Gretz Heated Pitot? > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" > > Speaking of the Gretz mount, mine is rusting after only a year, stored > indoors!! > > Shemp/Jeff Dowling > RV-6A, N915JD > 235 hours > Chicago/Louisville > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Douglas A. Fischer" > To: "RV-9 Matronics List" ; "RV Matronics List" > > Subject: RV-List: Chrome-plating for Gretz Heated Pitot? > > > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Douglas A. Fischer" > > > > Does anyone know a source for vacuum-metalizing for retail customers? I > > was thinking that may be a safe way to put a chrome finish on the black > > plastic Gretz heated pitot to match the mount. I think the old chrome > > dip-in-chemicals route used to plate metal would damage the pitot. > > > > Doug Fischer > > RV-9A Wings > > Jenison, MI > > > > Do not archive > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:03:20 AM PST US From: Subject: RV-List: Looking for Bob Hoffman --> RV-List message posted by: I hope someone out there can help me. I am looking for Bob Hoffman. Last known address I have on him is Lake City, FL in September. He received an order at the address, but since October all my correspondence to him has been returned. Does anyone have a phone number or address for him? To the best of my knowledge he is either building or flying an RV 6A Thanks. Bob Snedaker Fairings-Etc bob@fairings-etc 623 203 9795 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:30:48 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Wing spar main Bolt nut size From: "Greg Young" --> RV-List message posted by: "Greg Young" Sounds like the supplier got a different p/n mixed in. I've gotten an occasional bolt, nut and nutplate with no threads. QC isn't perfect. Regards, Greg Young - Houston (DWH) RV-6 N6GY ...project Phoenix Navion N5221K - just an XXL RV-6A > --> RV-List message posted by: luckymacy@comcast.net (lucky) > > I have an RV8 kit, builder number 81458. Yesterday I > discovered that 7 of the 8 nuts for the NAS1307-50 main spar > bolts required an 11/16 socket and one took a 5/8 socket. > The bolt heads themselves also took an 11/16 socket. Tom > Green of Van's said they never stocked a nut that size and > they always used 5/8 nut dimensions there. Since those nuts > came out of their parts bag and otherwise looked identical > right down to the same nut height and nylon color insert it > is easy to see how a mixup somewhere could have happened. > > But Tom said he's never heard of this before, ever. So I'm > wondering if I'm really the only one this happened to. Any > other confessions from anyone this week? Anyone else notice > this along the way? I wonder if their supplier just made a boo boo. > > Seems to me that the slightly larger size nut, all other > things equal, would be "better". It's the only place I can > remember where the nut dimension would be different than the > bolt head dimension. Seems wierd to do that by design on the > main spar bolts. > > lucky > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:17:46 PM PST US From: "LarryRobertHelming" Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: voltage regulator? --> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" Do not rule out the problem being a failing alternator. What type do you have?? Also: Check all major connections concerning alternator and engine grounding. I would think you could adjust the adjustable VR while the engine is off and then start it up to see what it does and repeat if necessary. Indiana Larry ----- Original Message ----- > --> RV-List message posted by: "Randy Garrett" > A set of 3 interrelated questions ... > > I have a RV-6A with about 600 hours of flying time ... > > In the last few weeks, I've noticed that the voltage drops to > battery level > It's quite > intermittent. > > 1. I'm thinking a failing voltage regulator is a reasonable > suspect? Now > that I'm writing this, I realize I should also re-check all the > cables and > their fittings to make sure there's not some loose connection. > > 2. If you agree with #1, then I have Van's adjustable voltage > regulator and > the Odyssey battery. Would it be just as well to buy the fixed > voltage > regulator? When I bought the adjustable regulator, I hadn't > realized how > exciting it would be to adjust the voltage, unless there is some > way to do > so (that I haven't thought of) without the engine running. > > 3. Assuming the fixed voltage regulator works fine w/ the Odyssey > battery, > does it have the same bolt pattern as the adjustable regulator? > Since this > is a replacement, it would be great to use the same bolt holes. > > Thanks for your help! > > Randy > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:31:42 PM PST US From: Vanremog@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: TruTrak with Navaid Servo --> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com In a message dated 11/4/2005 7:34:45 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, rv6apilot@yahoo.com writes: I use this setup in my rv6a and love the Digitrak. I do notice one quark though. With vision that good, I'll bet you could also see =B5 mesons. Sorry, just a little particle (pun intended) physics humor. Do not archive. Do not archive ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 05:31:22 PM PST US From: "Oliver Washburn" Subject: RV-List: Fw: Fly-in --> RV-List message posted by: "Oliver Washburn" ----- Original Message ----- From: Oliver Washburn Subject: Fly-in Sat, Nov 5th is Fall RV Fly-in at Love's Landing Airpark (97FL) in Central Florida for the best bar-b-que lunch in the Southeast. There will be coffee and donuts for the early birds. No program, just a good lunch and tall tales. Where-Love's Landing Airpark (97FL) 21nm SE of Ocala on 130* radial. N28*57.42 W081*53.29 When-Sat. Nov 5th , lunch at noon and coffee and donuts for early birds. Rain date Nov 6th. What- Bar-b que pork, hamburgers, hotdogs, baked beans, coleslaw and all the other fixins. Our Spring fly-in was rained out twice so hope for good weather and a large turnout for this one. "This is a private airpark so land at your own risk" ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:46:22 PM PST US From: bertrv6@highstream.net Subject: Re: RV-List: TruTrak with Navaid Servo --> RV-List message posted by: bertrv6@highstream.net Quoting Dan DeNeal : > --> RV-List message posted by: Dan DeNeal > > I use this setup in my rv6a and love the Digitrak. I do notice one quark > though. When I first turn it on, it dips the right wing down and then levels > it back to where it had been. Something I have to warn my passanger about as > it is a little disorienting when it happens. Once the wings are level again > it will follow the GPS 295 heading exactly as programed. I have also > installed the alititude hold from Digitrak people. Makes for an easy cross > country flight. > > I do not know if it is the combination of the Digitrak and the Navaid servo > that causes this to dip the wing or whether this is something Digitrak just > does. > > Dan DeNeal > RV6a N256GD > Dan: I would definitely, would check on this. Callk the people of \Navaid, even Van's other RV'S Builders. I know the ones I have seen, do not do that, somethinbg wrong with the Installation I would think. Or defective unit? my 5c comments Bert Rv6a Do Not archive > Ed Holyoke wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke" > > > Is anybody out there in list land using a TruTrak autopilot head with a > Navaid servo? Not really happy with the Navaid, thinking about > upgrading, and the Digitrak is cheaper than the EZ Pilot. Just wondering > if anybody has tried this combo and how it works. > > Pax, > > Ed > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:45:25 PM PST US From: Ron Lee Subject: RV-List: Finally fixed my 6A nose wheel shimmy --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee Recently I have been plagued by a persistent, unresolved nose gear shimmy in my RV-6A. I tried adjusting the breakout force (higher) and different nose tire pressures. Nothing helped. Then last Sunday I had a friend videotape me taxiing at the speed (18 knots) where the shimmy could be counted on. There was no oscillation in the horizontal plane consistent with shimmy. But there was an obvious Up/Down motion of the nose wheel assembly. This led to the checking of the balance and it was significantly out of balance. After balancing the nose wheel/tire I again taxied and there was no longer a vibration at/above 18 knots. However, there was another vibration above 23 knots. Not encouraging. I considered taking off the wheelpant to see if that was factor but was able to get someone to observe me taxiing at that speed. Lo and behold it was not the nosewheel but the left main. So I remove it and not only was it out of balance but out of round. It was an Air Hawk but perhaps something I did caused the out of round condition. I replaced both main tires and balanced them and this morning flew. No vibrations! Analysis/recommendations: I was incorrectly diagnosing the vibration of the nose wheel/tire as shimmy when it was out of balance. I incorrectly diagnosed a main wheel/tire vibration as nose wheel/tire shimmy/vibration. From now on I will balance every wheel/tire after changing the tire. The left tire had a weight on it but I am not sure that it was from the previous tire change. If I develop a vibration again my first step will be to have someone on the ground visually observe and/or videotape the wheels/tires to isolate the offender(s). Had I done that first I would have quickly resolved the problem without all the failed fix attempts. I went to three auto parts stores to find the lead weights with adhesive backing and none had them. I did get some from a motorcycle shop and from my normal tire store (Discount Tire - half the price of the motorcycle shop). Conclusion: Now my taxiing is vibration free and my greaser landings are no longer followed by vibration. Smooth landings and a smooth rollout is so sweet.