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1. 12:00 AM - Re: Wing Installation. (Mickey Coggins)
2. 03:02 AM - Re: Re: Fuel tank return line placement?, RV-7 (owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com)
3. 03:31 AM - 2005 EAA Sport Pilot Tour - McKinney, TX (Smitty)
4. 06:40 AM - Re: Manual Fuel Level Measurement (Phil Birkelbach)
5. 06:54 AM - Re: Cool Dynon Test (Jeff Dowling)
6. 08:19 AM - SO< WHAT ELSE IS NEW? (MnwPeeps@aol.com)
7. 08:21 AM - Cutting Wing Rib Holes (MLWynn@aol.com)
8. 08:27 AM - Re: Cool Dynon Test (Jim)
9. 08:43 AM - SO< WHAT ELSE IS NEW? ()
10. 08:54 AM - Re: Cutting Wing Rib Holes (Bob)
11. 09:16 AM - Re: Cutting Wing Rib Holes (LarryRobertHelming)
12. 09:29 AM - Re: Cutting Wing Rib Holes (Dan Checkoway)
13. 10:32 AM - Semi-OT: RFC1855 (Was: O/T top / bottom posting) (Kysh)
14. 10:37 AM - Re: Re: OT Top/Bottom Posting (Kysh)
15. 10:48 AM - Re: Re: OT Top/Bottom Posting (Kelly McMullen)
16. 10:59 AM - Re: Cutting Wing Rib Holes (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
17. 11:14 AM - Re: Re: OT Top/Bottom Posting (Kysh)
18. 11:47 AM - Re: Re: OT Top/Bottom Posting (Kelly McMullen)
19. 11:56 AM - Fuel system design (Ralph E. Capen)
20. 12:07 PM - Where to put quoted text, was Cool Dynon Test (Chris W)
21. 12:26 PM - Re: Semi-OT: RFC1855 (Was: O/T top / bottom posting) (James Ochs)
22. 01:41 PM - Re: Re: RFC 1855 OT Top and Bottom Posting (Bob)
23. 02:05 PM - Re: Re: RFC 1855 OT Top and Bottom Posting (Chuck Jensen)
24. 02:29 PM - Which Compressor? (Michael Wellenzohn)
25. 03:37 PM - Re: Where to put quoted text, was Cool Dynon Test (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
26. 04:45 PM - Re: Which Compressor? (Frank Stringham)
27. 05:08 PM - Test, please ignore (Gerry Filby)
28. 05:55 PM - Re: RV6-List: Fuel system design (Jordan Grant)
29. 06:45 PM - Re: Re: OT Top/Bottom Posting (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
30. 07:43 PM - Re: Semi-OT: RFC1855 (Was: O/T top / bottom posting) (Patrick Kelley)
31. 07:45 PM - Re: Peltor H52 Headsets? (Rick Leach)
32. 08:16 PM - Re: Semi-OT: RFC1855 (Was: O/T top / bottom posting) (HCRV6@comcast.net)
33. 10:05 PM - RV Ride near Pensacola, Fl (mark phipps)
34. 11:29 PM - Re: Which Compressor? (Mickey Coggins)
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Installation. |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> ... I want to make some sawhorses to support
> the wings as they go on. Does anyone have the measurement of distance from
> the bottom of the wing at the main spar and the inboard/outboard skin joint
> and the bottom skin of the fuselage?
One clever trick I read on one of these lists was to use
an old office chair with the back removed. One of those
chairs that are height adjustable. You might be able to
pick some up at a junkyard or "Goodwill" type place.
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 finishing
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank return line placement?, RV-7 |
--> RV-List message posted by:
I put mine in the top rear corner and ran it all the way back to the last
bay.
Michele - RV8
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of glaesers
Subject: RV-List: Re: Fuel tank return line placement?, RV-7
--> RV-List message posted by: "glaesers" <glaesers@wideopenwest.com>
I put mine right in the center of the forward "lightening hole" that isn't
cut out. I ran it in for 3 ribs. I'm in the middle of my second (left)
tank.
Dennis Glaeser
7A
--> RV-List message posted by: Bill Dube <William.P.Dube@noaa.gov>
I'm up to my elbows in Pro-seal (ugh.) Building the right fuel tank
on my RV-7.
Where is the best place to put the return line?
Thanks in advance,
Bill Dube'
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| Subject: | 2005 EAA Sport Pilot Tour - McKinney, TX |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Smitty" <smitty@smittysrv.com>
I had an opportunity to go to the EAA Sport Pilot Tour in McKinney, TX this
past weekend and took some shots of the aircraft on display. Enjoy!
http://www.smittysrv.com/slideshow.asp?sectionid=37
Smitty's RV-9A
http://SmittysRV.com
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| Subject: | Re: Manual Fuel Level Measurement |
--> RV-List message posted by: Phil Birkelbach <phil@petrasoft.net>
Why Pyrex? I used acrylic tubing for mine and it works great. I
ordered some from TAP plastics...
https://www.tapplastics.com/
Godspeed,
Phil Birkelbach - Houston Texas
RV-7 N727WB - Phase I
http://www.myrv7.com
DAVID REEL wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
>
>I'd like to put scratch marks on a pyrex tube every two gallons so I'll know how
full my tanks really are. But I'm having a hard time finding a source for
1 foot of 1/4" pyrex tubing. Has anyone solved this problem?
>
>Dave Reel - RV8A
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cool Dynon Test |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Thanks Jim.
I hope to follow in your footsteps one day. I noticed you have a 6 and are
building a rocket. If (once) I ever paint my 6a and get r done, Im hoping
to get started on a rocket myself. Its just too much flying it to stop and
sand for hours!
Shemp/Jeff Dowling
RV-6A, N915JD
235 hours
Chicago/Louisville
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim" <n144hr@earthlink.net>
>
> I say don't quote. That's what threads are for. Besides, who died and
> made
> Kysh in charge? I happen to agree that top posting is best and that's
> what
> I'm gonna do if I ever quote again (maybe). Geez - some people quote the
> same messages and then the replies over and over and then bottom post.
> How
> stupid is that? You have to scroll for hours to read a reply.
>
>>Here's a quote from Kysh: "These are standards, conventions, things that
> have been around (And with
> good reason) since the earliest days."
>
> This is like cutting the ends off the roast. Why? Because that's the way
> Gramma did it.
>
>>Another Kysh jewel: "Quoting on top of the message is like building an RV
> solely with hardware-store
> pop-rivets. Sure, it may work, but it's wrong and broken."
>
> What an inane analogy.
>
>>Number 3 words of wisdom: "People who know
> what they're doing will shake their head in mournful resignation at the
> lack of understanding displayed."
>
> I can honestly say I don't understand. And I am shaking my head. Can you
> guess why?
>
> I've been reading this list off and on since 1989 and the same people show
> up with different names and start the same arguments over and over.
>
>
> jim
>
> '91 RV6
> '05 HR2
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
>
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| Subject: | SO< WHAT ELSE IS NEW? |
support@vansaircraft.com, rv-list@matronics.com,
alan@tennisbookshop.demon.co.uk, alsmith@olemac.net,
TOSGeneral@aol.com, arcasimiro@msn.com, Mary.Ardant@btinternet.com
--> RV-List message posted by: MnwPeeps@aol.com
Hi< mary (my computer just sent me a curve ball i held down the shift
key too long< and then some sort of filter kicked in and i can"t get rid of it
it writes all in caps< and if i try to do anything it messes up the
punctuation more than it already is>>> that symbol should be a period
ugh
i"ll have to keep this short until later< obviously not on empire turf<
due to several complications i am disappointed and kind of annoyed>
squam has been a problem a quick trip out of town got in the way have to be
here Saturday to pick_up a new dog< etc etc
hope your week in france was good at least there should have been a lot
less traffic cars all on fire get it????!
i"ll write later when i get this fixed at some point>
thanks>>>and we"ll try again mike
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| Subject: | Cutting Wing Rib Holes |
--> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
Hi folks,
I am about to start cutting holes in the ribs for conduit, pitot, etc. How
is everyone doing that? I have a unibit, but it seems to raise a lot of
burrings. I was thinking about some sort of hole saw. There is a unit that
Cleveland sells:
_http://www5.mailordercentral.com/clevtool/prodinfo.asp?number=DBRB7_
(http://www5.mailordercentral.com/clevtool/prodinfo.asp?number=DBRB7)
just wondered if anyone has any experience with this or other suggestions on
the best way to accomplish the drilling.
Regards,
Michael Wynn
RV 8 Wings
San Ramon, CA
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| Subject: | Re: Cool Dynon Test |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim" <n144hr@earthlink.net>
Actually I sold the 6. I also owned a 4 but didn't build it. Sold it too.
The HR2 is the best of both worlds. I can fly with the $50 hamburger group
at 145 kts and 8gph or the Rocket group at 21"/2300 and 180 kts.
Hope I didn't make anybod mad earlier..........
jim
'91 RV6 (sold)
'05 HR2
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| Subject: | SO< WHAT ELSE IS NEW? |
"IMB Recipient 1" <mspop3connector.Droopy@ericksonjc.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: <MnwPeeps@aol.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: MnwPeeps@aol.com
Hi< mary (my computer just sent me a curve ball i held down the shift
key too long< and then some sort of filter kicked in and i can"t get rid of it
it writes all in caps< and if i try to do anything it messes up the
punctuation more than it already is>>> that symbol should be a period
ugh
i"ll have to keep this short until later< obviously not on empire turf<
due to several complications i am disappointed and kind of annoyed>
squam has been a problem a quick trip out of town got in the way have to be
here Saturday to pick_up a new dog< etc etc
hope your week in france was good at least there should have been a lot
less traffic cars all on fire get it????!
i"ll write later when i get this fixed at some point>
thanks>>>and we"ll try again mike
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| Subject: | Re: Cutting Wing Rib Holes |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bob <panamared3@brier.net>
>I am about to start cutting holes in the ribs for conduit, pitot, etc. How
>is everyone doing that? I have a unibit, but it seems to raise a lot of
>burrings.
I used a bunch of unibits during building. I found the the Milwaukee
bits (from local hardware stores) did not do well. The bits I bought from
Avery or Cleveland made very good holes. Best way to cut a hole is with
the unibit in my opinion.
You are going to be cutting a lot of holes before you are done. Get a good
set now, rather than later.
Bob
RV6 NightFighter
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| Subject: | Re: Cutting Wing Rib Holes |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
Michael, Try using the unibit in a slower turning drill. It should cut a
very smooth hole. Use some lubricant on it. They do not last forever so
maybe you just need a new one. It should cut a very smooth hole. Do not
archive.
Indiana Larry
----- Original Message -----
> --> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I am about to start cutting holes in the ribs for conduit, pitot, etc.
> How
> is everyone doing that? I have a unibit, but it seems to raise a lot of
> burrings. snip
> just wondered if anyone has any experience with this or other suggestions
> on
> the best way to accomplish the drilling.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael Wynn
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| Subject: | Re: Cutting Wing Rib Holes |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Michael,
See my post on VAF Forums:
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=4091
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (680 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <MLWynn@aol.com>
Subject: RV-List: Cutting Wing Rib Holes
> --> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I am about to start cutting holes in the ribs for conduit, pitot, etc.
> How
> is everyone doing that? I have a unibit, but it seems to raise a lot of
> burrings. I was thinking about some sort of hole saw. There is a unit
> that
> Cleveland sells:
> _http://www5.mailordercentral.com/clevtool/prodinfo.asp?number=DBRB7_
> (http://www5.mailordercentral.com/clevtool/prodinfo.asp?number=DBRB7)
> just wondered if anyone has any experience with this or other suggestions
> on
> the best way to accomplish the drilling.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael Wynn
> RV 8 Wings
> San Ramon, CA
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Semi-OT: RFC1855 (Was: O/T top / bottom posting) |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kysh <vans-dragon@lapdragon.org>
As Kelly McMullen was saying:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
>
> No, Kysh, there was no standard from the days of gopher and usenet and pure
> listservs, long before the web and windoze 95.
Funny, I distinctly remember 'top quoting' as being the only thing used
by anyone back in the BBS days, the internet's early 'open' days
(88-89 'till about 94 or so), and quite frankly until the birth of
Outlook.
See below.
> Just because you think it was a standard doesn't make it so. The fact that
> no one has followed your claimed standard over the last 15 years is proof
> enough that it doesn't exist.
From rfc1855:
"- If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you
summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just enough
text of the original to give a context."
Enough said.
-Kysh
--
CleverSignature
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| Subject: | Re: OT Top/Bottom Posting |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kysh <vans-dragon@lapdragon.org>
As Kelly McMullen was saying:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
>
> Gesh, I can't believe this disagreement here. Just for Kysh's information
> there is no such thing as a standard, and therefore no WRONG Way.
Wrong; There are plenty of standards. Without them, the internet would
not be globally interoperable, and would not exist in any usable state.
It's important to fight for standards for just that reason.
As for quoting, you'll never hear me tell 'anyone' to quote my way.
However, if -I- am told that -I- should be quoting the wrong way, expect
me to reply with an attempt to gently educate the requestor.
-Kysh
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| Subject: | Re: OT Top/Bottom Posting |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
Just because you remember something doesn't make it a standard. Sure there
are standards such as tcp/ip and html. No one has ever adopted a listserv
posting standard that I am aware of in 15 years of using the internet and
listservs. The fact that no one has adopted a standard for posting means
there isn't one standard. You are attempting to raise your preference to a
standard, which no one is buying. Kind of like telling RV builders they
should put a Continental or Subaru engine on their plane....some might,
but you aren't going to persuade a majority, therefore there isn't a
standard.
Kysh said:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Kysh <vans-dragon@lapdragon.org>
>
> As Kelly McMullen was saying:
>> --> RV-List message posted by: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
>>
>> Gesh, I can't believe this disagreement here. Just for Kysh's
>> information
>> there is no such thing as a standard, and therefore no WRONG Way.
>
> Wrong; There are plenty of standards. Without them, the internet would
> not be globally interoperable, and would not exist in any usable state.
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| Subject: | Re: Cutting Wing Rib Holes |
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
In a message dated 11/15/05 10:38:31 AM Central Standard Time, MLWynn@aol.com
writes:
> I am about to start cutting holes in the ribs for conduit, pitot, etc.
> How
> is everyone doing that? I have a unibit, but it seems to raise a lot of
> burrings. I was thinking about some sort of hole saw.
>>>
Hi Michael-
Here's a link to how I did mine:
http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=4868
I found the Unibit makes VERY clean holes that only require a light
scotchbrite touch-up when done. I've poked mucho holes with these with excellent
results. Perhaps yours is dull or has a cracked cutting edge? Try lower speed?
(no air drill)
Mark Phillips
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| Subject: | Re: OT Top/Bottom Posting |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kysh <vans-dragon@lapdragon.org>
As Kelly McMullen was saying:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
>
> Just because you remember something doesn't make it a standard. Sure there
> are standards such as tcp/ip and html. No one has ever adopted a listserv
> posting standard that I am aware of in 15 years of using the internet and
> listservs. The fact that no one has adopted a standard for posting means
> there isn't one standard. You are attempting to raise your preference to a
> standard, which no one is buying. Kind of like telling RV builders they
> should put a Continental or Subaru engine on their plane....some might,
> but you aren't going to persuade a majority, therefore there isn't a
> standard.
That's a very good analogy.
The 'standard' engine for an RV is a lycoming. It's not the only engine
ever used, but do you dispute that it's the 'standard'? It's recommended
by Vans (As top-quoting is recommended by RFC1855), and while some
people do things a different way (Append quoted text, use subaru
engines), most people follow the standard (Use lycomings and top
quoting).
That said, the analogy does fail in that using alternative engines
doesn't negatively affect others, wheras append-quoting does.
And yes, everyone adopted the standard for quoting a long time ago.
-Kysh
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| Subject: | Re: OT Top/Bottom Posting |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
That is where you are assume too much. And I quote
"Network Working Group S. Hambridge
Request For Comments: 1855 Intel Corp.
FYI: 28 October 1995
Category: Informational
Netiquette Guidelines
Status of This Memo
This memo provides information for the Internet community. This memo
does not specify an Internet standard of any kind. Distribution of
this memo is unlimited."
Given that it is a Request For Comments, and has been adopted by no one
that I know of, and that it itself states that it is not a standard, I'd
say it is the final word. Do your own thing, and the rest will do what
they choose.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Kysh said:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Kysh <vans-dragon@lapdragon.org>
>
>>
> And yes, everyone adopted the standard for quoting a long time ago.
>
> -Kysh
> --
> Do Not Archive
>
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| Subject: | Fuel system design |
INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.0000 1.0000 -4.4912
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
Folks,
I am in the beginning stages of figuring out what I need to install for my fuel
system.
The engine is an Aerosport Power O360 with AirFlow Performance injection. I also
have a VM1000 for system monitoring.
I already have my fuel selector valve (Andair) that supports the purge system return
lines. The engine/injection system came with a mechanical and electric
boost pumps.
What I would like to find out is what have others already done as far as what goes
where from a flow perspective?
I know that I need to put my fuel pressure/flow transducers in the mix as well
as filter(s). Do injection systems have a different gascolator due to the higher
pressures? Do I even need a gascolator with an injection system? (probably!)
Some of these things may be in the instructions for the kit as well as the engine/injection
system - but I have also determined that they are not the definitive/only
way and do not always cover the design that you are implementing.
Thanks in advance,
Ralph Capen
RV6AQB N822AR N06
Trons flowing pretty good - gotta get to work on the big fan up front........
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| Subject: | Where to put quoted text, was Cool Dynon Test |
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net>
Anyone who says you should always top post is a MORON!
Anyone who says you should always bottom post is also a MORON!
Top post, bottom post, inter post, it all depends on the situation, and
frankly who cares! If everyone would just TRIM the quoted text, it
wouldn't matter all that much where the quoted text was. Not trimming
quoted text is by far the biggest contributor to the hard disk space
needed for the archives, far more than off topic posts. It also makes
archive searches more difficult and time consuming.
Unless, like this message, you aren't responding to any one comment but
the topic in general, you should always quote the relevant text, and
ONLY the relevant text to your reply. I know some will argue, you can
look at the history to get the context, but that doesn't always work in
practice, especially on an email list (as apposed to a news group,)
where it isn't always possible to determine what message in a thread
someone is responding to.
I would like to leave you with one final word
TRIM TRIM TRIM TRIM TRIM TRIM TRIM TRIM TRIM TRIM TRIM TRIM TRIM TRIM TRIM
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Semi-OT: RFC1855 (Was: O/T top / bottom posting) |
--> RV-List message posted by: James Ochs <jochs@froody.org>
Ok, enough already.
also from rfc 1855:
"...this Guide offers a minimum set of behaviors which organizations and
individuals may take and adapt for their own use."
notice the clause "take and adapt". While one can read the section
that you posted below as distinctly saying that you MUST post at the
top, one can also read the entire document, understand the spirit of
what the person was trying to say and realize the point of that entry is
not really about formatting, but ensuring that you include enough
context to your comment without reposting the entire thread. One could
just as easily read that section as saying "summarize at the top OR
include [somewhere in the post] just enough text of the original to give
a context. And this is how you get in-line comments to a previous
post, etc, etc.
Personally, I prefer the messages to be top posted. That way, if I've
been following the thread I don't need to scroll through the context to
get to the reply, but if I've come in in the middle I can scroll down to
pick up the context, or even read a previous post to pick it up. But
that's just me. Since that is the way I like it, I am going to adapt
RFC1855 to my use and top post my replies, which I see as fully in
accordance to its intent. I'm sure some percentage agrees with me, and
some percentage doesn't, and the vast majority just don't care.
Also, the argument about following RFC's to the letter because of
interoperability needs of the internet is only valid when you are
actually talking about an RFC that has to do with interoperability...
like DNS, TCP/IP, etc. not "netiquette".
James
Do Not Archive
Kysh wrote:
>
>
>
>>Just because you think it was a standard doesn't make it so. The fact that
>>no one has followed your claimed standard over the last 15 years is proof
>>enough that it doesn't exist.
>>
>>
>
>From rfc1855:
>
>"- If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you
>summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just enough
>text of the original to give a context."
>
>Enough said.
>
>-Kysh
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RFC 1855 OT Top and Bottom Posting |
--> RV-List message posted by: Bob <panamared3@brier.net>
So just what is RFC 1855? Can I get it from Avery's or do I need to go to
Aircraft Spruce. What about primer, epoxy or self etching? And does it
have a nosewheel or tailwheel. I bet it will not allow overhead approaches
only standard left hand turns (even if a mountain is in the way). I would
search the archives, but then again I might find it in the preview
plans. Is it a major or minor alteration, or maybe I just need an
STC. Will autofuel work if I use fuel injection or do I need electronic
ignition? If I order it from Van's what is the lead time and the best way
to ship it? Is it just me or is the RVATOR late again? I know I should
check the spelling, but I never did find out about the cool Dynon Test!!!
Bob
RV6 NightFighter
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| Subject: | Re: RFC 1855 OT Top and Bottom Posting |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com>
Yes, that's exactly what it is.
Chuck
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--> RV-List message posted by: Bob <panamared3@brier.net>
So just what is RFC 1855? Can I get it from Avery's or do I need to go
to
Aircraft Spruce. What about primer, epoxy or self etching? And does it
have a nosewheel or tailwheel. I bet it will not allow overhead
approaches
only standard left hand turns (even if a mountain is in the way). I
would
search the archives, but then again I might find it in the preview
plans. Is it a major or minor alteration, or maybe I just need an
STC. Will autofuel work if I use fuel injection or do I need electronic
ignition? If I order it from Van's what is the lead time and the best
way
to ship it? Is it just me or is the RVATOR late again? I know I should
check the spelling, but I never did find out about the cool Dynon
Test!!!
Bob
RV6 NightFighter
Yes, that's exactly what it is.
Chuck
Down here too just in case...don't want to offend anyone's sensibilities
or violate netmanners.
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Which Compressor? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Michael Wellenzohn <michael@wellenzohn.net>
Hello all,
I am in the process of evaluating which compressor I should buy, I am
based in Switzerland but close to the German border, so contributions
from Europe are also very welcome.
My requirements are:
1) Performance to power one airtool at a time
2) As quite as possible
What air-tank volume is necessary and what additional features will I need?
Thanks to everyone
Michael Wellenzohn
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| Subject: | Re: Where to put quoted text, was Cool Dynon Test |
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
In a message dated 11/15/2005 4:34:05 PM Central Standard Time,
1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net writes:
Anyone who says you should always top post is a MORON!
>>>>
Would you people please take your scrap off-list, PLEASE? No, DAMMIT!!
Mark Phillips do not archive
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| Subject: | Which Compressor? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Frank Stringham" <fstringham@hotmail.com>
Michael
Get an oil lubricated compressor..very quiet..Buy as large as you can
afford. I have found that as the project has grown the need for air has
increased. I am also painting/primering all my stuff so my
oilless/noisy/compressor is really not up to the task.
Frank @ SGU and SLC
>From: Michael Wellenzohn <michael@wellenzohn.net>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Which Compressor?
>Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 23:29:22 +0100
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Michael Wellenzohn <michael@wellenzohn.net>
>
>Hello all,
>
>I am in the process of evaluating which compressor I should buy, I am
>based in Switzerland but close to the German border, so contributions
>from Europe are also very welcome.
>My requirements are:
>
>1) Performance to power one airtool at a time
>2) As quite as possible
>
>What air-tank volume is necessary and what additional features will I need?
>
>Thanks to everyone
>
>Michael Wellenzohn
>
>
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| Subject: | Test, please ignore |
--> RV-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
DO NOT ARCHIVE
__g__
==========================================================
Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
Tel: 415 203 9177
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| Subject: | Re: RV6-List: Fuel system design |
--> RV-List message posted by: Jordan Grant <gra9933@bellsouth.net>
Ralph:
This E-mail is humongous because I attached some pictures and I
didn't shrink them down. Sorry about that. I'm lazy. (The RV-List will
filter them out, but you should get them in the direct E-mail)
I have the same setup. Attached are some pictures of an AFP fuel
pump installation and pictures of my solution for the purge valve. My
airplane is not yet flying, so I can't say that the system has been
validated, but here is what I did after a bunch of research and thinking:
1. No gascolator. Not required as far as I can tell. I'm told its main
function is to take water out because a little water in the fuel can
disrupt a carbureted fuel system. Since ours are fuel-injected, the
problem is mitigated. Also, the AFP installation includes a filter already.
2. Fuel purge: I ran one line back to my right-side tank only. The only
time you're going to use it is when re-starting a hot engine (its
function is to cool the fuel in the system). Other fuel injection
systems require an "overflow" back to the tank they are feeding. That is
what the Andair valve is intended for. With the AFP, you don't have a
constant overflow of fuel, so you don't have to go through the extra
work of installing two lines back to the tanks. My advice would be to
send back the expensive Andair valve, exchange it for the regular kind,
and run just one line back to the tank of your choice. It will save you
time and reduce the complexity in your fuel system.
3. For the purge valve actuation, I installed a spring in order to have
the valve default to the closed position - and stay closed in the event
of the control cable failing.
4. Fuel Flow transducer: The books say to have about 6" of straight fuel
line on either side of the transducer. I fudged that a little and I put
the transducer in the center floor assembly with the filter and pump. I
had to use a 45 degree fitting on the transducer to make that work out.
Other installations have the transducer mounted on the firewall, in line
with the fuel feed hose that comes out of the throttle body to the
"spider" on top of the engine. I think that would actually be a better
solution. That hose comes pre-fabricated for you on the Aerosport Power,
so you might have to make new hoses to make that work out. BTW - I have
fabricated my own fuel hoses out of the stuff from the Spruce catalog -
its not hard if you need to do it.
I had some difficulty finding information on this when I was doing it,
so I hope this helps you out.
Jordan Grant
RV-6 Final Assembly (and painting!)
Ralph E. Capen wrote:
>--> RV6-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
>
>Folks,
>
>I am in the beginning stages of figuring out what I need to install for my fuel
system.
>
>The engine is an Aerosport Power O360 with AirFlow Performance injection. I also
have a VM1000 for system monitoring.
>
>I already have my fuel selector valve (Andair) that supports the purge system
return lines. The engine/injection system came with a mechanical and electric
boost pumps.
>
>What I would like to find out is what have others already done as far as what
goes where from a flow perspective?
>
>I know that I need to put my fuel pressure/flow transducers in the mix as well
as filter(s). Do injection systems have a different gascolator due to the higher
pressures? Do I even need a gascolator with an injection system? (probably!)
>
>Some of these things may be in the instructions for the kit as well as the engine/injection
system - but I have also determined that they are not the definitive/only
way and do not always cover the design that you are implementing.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Ralph Capen
>RV6AQB N822AR N06
>Trons flowing pretty good - gotta get to work on the big fan up front........
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: OT Top/Bottom Posting |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
You two want to take this little pi$$ing contest off list. Frankly, no one gives
a rats a$$ about it and it has squat to do with RV's.
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: OT Top/Bottom Posting
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
That is where you are assume too much. And I quote
"Network Working Group S. Hambridge
Request For Comments: 1855 Intel Corp.
FYI: 28 October 1995
Category: Informational
Netiquette Guidelines
Status of This Memo
This memo provides information for the Internet community. This memo
does not specify an Internet standard of any kind. Distribution of
this memo is unlimited."
Given that it is a Request For Comments, and has been adopted by no one that I
know of, and that it itself states that it is not a standard, I'd say it is the
final word. Do your own thing, and the rest will do what they choose.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Kysh said:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Kysh <vans-dragon@lapdragon.org>
>
>>
> And yes, everyone adopted the standard for quoting a long time ago.
>
> -Kysh
> --
> Do Not Archive
>
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| Subject: | Semi-OT: RFC1855 (Was: O/T top / bottom posting) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Patrick Kelley" <webmaster@flion.com>
Well, I always knew I wasn't 'anyone' because I have never top-quoted. And
blaming Outlook doesn't wash because it was a long time before Microsoft got
their oily paws on me; at IBM I was on mainframes running VM w/PROFS, and
MVS or using OS/2. Before that, it was non-Intel machines.
Frankly, I hate top-quoting. When I send a message, I want people to see my
message, not someone else's. If they have no idea what I'm talking about,
they can look for the quotes in the footnotes. And if I get a top-quoted
message, it just looks like a duplicate to me unless I happen to notice the
different sender (know how often I compare senders on all the messages I
receive each day? That's right, 0), so it often gets deleted without my
ever noticing what was added at the bottom. But there is an upside - it
means that many fewer messages I have to scan to see if there's something
worth reading.
As for your 'standard', someone else has already mentioned that RFC means
'Request For Comments', not 'standard' or 'specification' or any other
similar term and, even if it did, it is non-enforceable. Heck, even the
HTML 'standard' is not enforceable, which is why the browser wars continue
to this day. So you go ahead and quote however suits you and leave the rest
of us to our heathen ways, m'kay?
Patrick Kelley - MCSE
www.flion.com
-----Original Message-----
--> RV-List message posted by: Kysh <vans-dragon@lapdragon.org>
As Kelly McMullen was saying:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
>
> No, Kysh, there was no standard from the days of gopher and usenet and
pure
> listservs, long before the web and windoze 95.
Funny, I distinctly remember 'top quoting' as being the only thing used
by anyone back in the BBS days, the internet's early 'open' days
(88-89 'till about 94 or so), and quite frankly until the birth of
Outlook.
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| Subject: | Peltor H52 Headsets? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Rick Leach" <papadaddyo@tampabay.rr.com>
I had the same problem. Took me forever to get my headset. Your best
bet is to call them about 3-4 times a week. Squeaky wheel gets the
grease. Headsets are good but company is slow.
Rick Leach
PS - once lived in Hopkinsville.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bobby Hester
Subject: RV-List: Peltor H52 Headsets?
--> RV-List message posted by: Bobby Hester <bhester@hopkinsville.net>
Has anyone out there been trying to get Peltor H52 Headsets?
I took advantage of a deal at Sun-n-Fun 05' and I was suppose to receive
them as soon as thay became available. It was only suppose to be a few
more weeks. They are still not available :-(
I have not been charged but I have been in contact with one of their
reps and he has given dates when they would be available, but everyone
has pass and still no headsets.
They even started advertising them in most aviation catalogs with
(available Aug. 05). I can not believe a company as well known as
Peltor could let the release of these to keep being delayed month
after month.
--
Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY
Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/
RV7A Slowbuild wings-QB Fuse-XPO360 engine :-)
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| Subject: | Semi-OT: RFC1855 (Was: O/T top / bottom posting) |
--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@comcast.net
For crying out loud will you guys put a lid on this BS about where the quote goes!
What rational person really gives a D___. You have all apparently completely
forgotten that this is supposed to be an RV builders forum. Get a life!
Please DO NOT ARCHIVE.
--
Harry Crosby
RV-6 N16CX, 157 hours
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Patrick Kelley" <webmaster@flion.com>
>
> Well, I always knew I wasn't 'anyone' because I have never top-quoted. And
> blaming Outlook doesn't wash because it was a long time before Microsoft got
> their oily paws on me; at IBM I was on mainframes running VM w/PROFS, and
> MVS or using OS/2. Before that, it was non-Intel machines.
>
> Frankly, I hate top-quoting. When I send a message, I want people to see my
> message, not someone else's. If they have no idea what I'm talking about,
> they can look for the quotes in the footnotes. And if I get a top-quoted
> message, it just looks like a duplicate to me unless I happen to notice the
> different sender (know how often I compare senders on all the messages I
> receive each day? That's right, 0), so it often gets deleted without my
> ever noticing what was added at the bottom. But there is an upside - it
> means that many fewer messages I have to scan to see if there's something
> worth reading.
>
> As for your 'standard', someone else has already mentioned that RFC means
> 'Request For Comments', not 'standard' or 'specification' or any other
> similar term and, even if it did, it is non-enforceable. Heck, even the
> HTML 'standard' is not enforceable, which is why the browser wars continue
> to this day. So you go ahead and quote however suits you and leave the rest
> of us to our heathen ways, m'kay?
>
> Patrick Kelley - MCSE
> www.flion.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> --> RV-List message posted by: Kysh <vans-dragon@lapdragon.org>
>
> As Kelly McMullen was saying:
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
> >
> > No, Kysh, there was no standard from the days of gopher and usenet and
> pure
> > listservs, long before the web and windoze 95.
>
> Funny, I distinctly remember 'top quoting' as being the only thing used
> by anyone back in the BBS days, the internet's early 'open' days
> (88-89 'till about 94 or so), and quite frankly until the birth of
> Outlook.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | RV Ride near Pensacola, Fl |
--> RV-List message posted by: mark phipps <skydive80020@yahoo.com>
Listers, I have a friend that is interested in getting an RV ride for his aviation
minded nephew during the first week of December. The young man is a teenager
and lives in or near Pensacola Florida. Anybody interested please let me know.
Mark Phipps, N242RP, RV6A, 50 hours
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| Subject: | Re: Which Compressor? |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> I am in the process of evaluating which compressor I should buy, I am
> based in Switzerland but close to the German border, so contributions
> from Europe are also very welcome.
> My requirements are:
>
> 1) Performance to power one airtool at a time
> 2) As quite as possible
>
> What air-tank volume is necessary and what additional features will I need?
Hi Michael,
Do you plan to paint using this air compressor? If so, then
a big one is a good idea. Do you have 3-phase 400v available
in your workshop? That's good to use since most electric
companies in CH charge you for the max of the 3 phases, so
using 400v 3-phase will keep the load balanced.
I bought a Gde compressor from a German guy on Ebay, I think
it is this one:
http://www.guede.com/prods.php3?N=50008&U=&S=p_ko.php3
I'm real happy with it, but it's really much bigger
than I need, since I can't paint in my workshop. When
I bought it, I thought I'd be painting. It's not too
loud, and it only runs very infrequently.
What are you building?
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 finishing
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