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1. 12:11 AM - Highlight Two (Matt Dralle)
2. 07:35 AM - Slick magneto 500 hour inspection (Stephen J. Soule)
3. 08:10 AM - Re: Slick magneto 500 hour inspection (Kelly McMullen)
4. 08:49 AM - Re: Cutting Wing Rib Holes (Charles Kaluza)
5. 09:30 AM - Re: Slick magneto 500 hour inspection (Jim)
6. 09:35 AM - Re: Which Compressor? (Jim)
7. 09:57 AM - Re: Cool Dynon Test (Darrell Reiley)
8. 10:04 AM - Re: Cool Dynon Test (Darrell Reiley)
9. 10:17 AM - Re: Semi-OT: RFC1855 (Was: O/T top / bottom posting) (Chopper 1)
10. 10:53 AM - list fraud (Jim)
11. 10:55 AM - Re: Slick magneto 500 hour inspection (Stephen J. Soule)
12. 11:16 AM - Say again.. (JOHN STARN)
13. 12:50 PM - Re: wing installation (joelrhaynes@aol.com)
14. 01:56 PM - Rudder Spar Doubler Optional Holes (wskimike)
15. 04:17 PM - ACS2002 engine monitor system for sale (Ken Dominy)
16. 06:03 PM - Re: Slick magneto 500 hour inspection (wskimike)
17. 06:43 PM - Re: TruTrak with Navaid Servo (dick martin)
18. 07:03 PM - Re: Re: wing installation (Bob Collins)
19. 08:01 PM - Re: ACS2002 engine monitor system for sale (LarryRobertHelming)
20. 08:38 PM - Re: Rudder Spar Doubler Optional Holes (Jim Jewell)
21. 08:45 PM - Re: Re: wing installation (DonVS)
22. 08:58 PM - paint-on ceramic heat shield (sarg314)
23. 09:39 PM - Re: ACS2002 engine monitor system for sale (Ken Dominy)
24. 09:47 PM - Re: OT Top/Bottom Posting (DEAN PSIROPOULOS)
25. 10:02 PM - Resurrecting clecos (DEAN PSIROPOULOS)
26. 10:30 PM - Re: Resurrecting clecos (HCRV6@comcast.net)
27. 11:26 PM - hangar space at or near Truckee (KTRK) (Dan Checkoway)
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--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
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| Subject: | Slick magneto 500 hour inspection |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stephen J. Soule" <SSoule@pfclaw.com>
Listers,
Any advice about to whom I should send a Slick magneto for 500 hour
inspection and overhaul?
Steve
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| Subject: | Re: Slick magneto 500 hour inspection |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
Stephen J. Soule said:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stephen J. Soule" <SSoule@pfclaw.com>
>
> Listers,
>
> Any advice about to whom I should send a Slick magneto for 500 hour
> inspection and overhaul?
>
> Steve
>
You don't say where you are located, but this list will give you a start:
http://www.trade-a-plane.com/unprotected/cgi-bin/prodindex.pl?showcategory~0615~Magneto+Overhaul.x or if you have trouble with a long url
http://makeashorterlink.com/?T17724B2C
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| Subject: | Re: Cutting Wing Rib Holes |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Kaluza" <charleskaluza@verizon.net>
I found the spade wood bits with the cutting tips worked well in a slow turning
drill. The tips cut through the metal before the flat portion of the bit made
contact. Nice clean holes with many sizes available.
Charles Kaluza
RvV 6a
Time: 08:21:24 AM PST US
From: MLWynn@aol.com
Subject: Cutting Wing Rib Holes
--> RV-List message posted by: MLWynn@aol.com
Hi folks,
I am about to start cutting holes in the ribs for conduit, pitot, etc.
How
is
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| Subject: | Re: Slick magneto 500 hour inspection |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim" <n144hr@earthlink.net>
Steve -
My cousin is really good at fixxing mags - I'll ask him if he'll do it.
He's a retired helicopter mechanic and lives here at the airpark. Betcha
he'll do a better job for less money than any shop will (if he will do it -
he has a lot of projects).
jim
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| Subject: | Re: Which Compressor? |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim" <n144hr@earthlink.net>
Frank -
I went to Home Depot and got a 6 hp 60 gal. 125 psi, 100 cfm at 90 psi
compressor for $400 and it was well worth it. I built my 6 with a 1.5 hp 15
gal. Craftsman and it was a pain in the butt to try to paint or run a die
grinder.
jim
"05 HR2
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| Subject: | Re: Cool Dynon Test |
--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
Kysh,
Sounds like your pipe may still be lit. You might try putting it down for a while.
do not archive
I apologise for being confusing. Brain disengaged briefly.
-Kysh
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Do not archive
Darrell
RV7A - 622DR Reserved
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| Subject: | Re: Cool Dynon Test |
--> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
In my household we like to rotate top and bottom... ;-)
"do not archive"
sportav8r@aol.com wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
As I stated previously, convention dictates that quotes -not- be on top.
No. Quoted text should be on top
<< both the above quotes are from you. I, for one, am confused (though not really
very interested); which way do you want it done, officer Kysh?
Darrell
RV7A - 622DR Reserved
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| Subject: | Re: Semi-OT: RFC1855 (Was: O/T top / bottom posting) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Chopper 1" <mkellems@bellsouth.net>
How about a "do not archive" in here somewhere - !!!
DO NOT ARCHIVE
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Kelley" <webmaster@flion.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Semi-OT: RFC1855 (Was: O/T top / bottom posting)
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Patrick Kelley" <webmaster@flion.com>
>
> Well, I always knew I wasn't 'anyone' because I have never top-quoted.
And
> blaming Outlook doesn't wash because it was a long time before Microsoft
got
> their oily paws on me; at IBM I was on mainframes running VM w/PROFS, and
> MVS or using OS/2. Before that, it was non-Intel machines.
>
> Frankly, I hate top-quoting. When I send a message, I want people to see
my
> message, not someone else's. If they have no idea what I'm talking about,
> they can look for the quotes in the footnotes. And if I get a top-quoted
> message, it just looks like a duplicate to me unless I happen to notice
the
> different sender (know how often I compare senders on all the messages I
> receive each day? That's right, 0), so it often gets deleted without my
> ever noticing what was added at the bottom. But there is an upside - it
> means that many fewer messages I have to scan to see if there's something
> worth reading.
>
> As for your 'standard', someone else has already mentioned that RFC means
> 'Request For Comments', not 'standard' or 'specification' or any other
> similar term and, even if it did, it is non-enforceable. Heck, even the
> HTML 'standard' is not enforceable, which is why the browser wars continue
> to this day. So you go ahead and quote however suits you and leave the
rest
> of us to our heathen ways, m'kay?
>
> Patrick Kelley - MCSE
> www.flion.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> --> RV-List message posted by: Kysh <vans-dragon@lapdragon.org>
>
> As Kelly McMullen was saying:
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
> >
> > No, Kysh, there was no standard from the days of gopher and usenet and
> pure
> > listservs, long before the web and windoze 95.
>
> Funny, I distinctly remember 'top quoting' as being the only thing used
> by anyone back in the BBS days, the internet's early 'open' days
> (88-89 'till about 94 or so), and quite frankly until the birth of
> Outlook.
>
>
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"RV3 list" <RV3-List@matronics.com>, "RV List" <rv-list@matronics.com>
INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.0000 1.0000 -4.4912;INNOCENT GLOBAL 0.0000 1.0000 -4.4912
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim" <n144hr@earthlink.net>
Someone keeps sending me list email with my own address on it. The really funny
thing is the messages are exactly the same as ones that I sent out earlier.
Does anyone else have this problem and how did you deal with it? I'm thinking
of blocking email from me - would that work?
jim
'05 HR2
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| Subject: | Slick magneto 500 hour inspection |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stephen J. Soule" <SSoule@pfclaw.com>
Thanks, Steve
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Subject: Re: RV-List: Slick magneto 500 hour inspection
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim" <n144hr@earthlink.net>
Steve -
My cousin is really good at fixxing mags - I'll ask him if he'll do it. He's
a retired helicopter mechanic and lives here at the airpark. Betcha he'll
do a better job for less money than any shop will (if he will do it - he has
a lot of projects).
jim
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--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
"> In my household we like to rotate....................................."
KABONG Do Not Archive
> --> RV-List message posted by: Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
>
> In my household we like to rotate top and bottom... ;-)
>
> "do not archive"
> As I stated previously, convention dictates that quotes -not- be on top.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: wing installation |
--> RV-List message posted by: joelrhaynes@aol.com
I strongly second the telescoping office chair trick for supporting the root end
of the wing for installation/removal. Works like a charm. I even removed
and reinstalled a wing single-handedly using this trick.
Joel Haynes
7A N557XW (reserved)
Bozemen, MT
On the gear and wiring, engine on its way!
Time: 12:00:52 AM PST US
From: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Wing Installation.
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> ... I want to make some sawhorses to support
> the wings as they go on. Does anyone have the measurement of distance from
> the bottom of the wing at the main spar and the inboard/outboard skin joint
> and the bottom skin of the fuselage?
One clever trick I read on one of these lists was to use
an old office chair with the back removed. One of those
chairs that are height adjustable. You might be able to
pick some up at a junkyard or "Goodwill" type place.
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| Subject: | Rudder Spar Doubler Optional Holes |
--> RV-List message posted by: "wskimike" <wskimike@mchsi.com>
Can anyone tell me whether it is better for C/G purposes to cut the holes out if
your putting a 360 or 320 engine. I know for spin recovery, it is better to
have a light tail but I don't want an aircraft that is too nose heavy ether. All
you RV-7A or 6A that went with this option, please give me some advise because
I haven't decided on which engine to put in the 7A.
Mike Harris, wskimike@mchsi.com
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| Subject: | ACS2002 engine monitor system for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Dominy" <abqmooney@excite.com>
I have a complete ACS 2002 system, never installed for a 4 cyl. Lyc.(or clone)
with mag RPM sensor and float fuel sending units. It was shipped just before
the software version 3.0.1 came out. It is (according to AFS) completely upgradable
to the current AF2500 system by downloading the software. Sensors include
4 EGTs, 4 CHTs, OAT, mag RPM sensor, MP, oil press, fuel press, fuel flow,
current sensor and oil temp (Lycoming). The unit shipped in Feb 2005, and the
warrantee will be honored until Feb 2006 or 1 year after 1st run whichever
comes first. Currently the units sell for $3500+, and I want $3000. If interested
email me privately at abqmooney@excite.com. Do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: Slick magneto 500 hour inspection |
--> RV-List message posted by: "wskimike" <wskimike@mchsi.com>
Be careful of letting anyone do the 500 hour inspection because if he
doesn't have a test bench to run the mag and test the spark, he is not doing
the 500 hr. properly and by the book. You may have problems you don't want.
Mike Harris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen J. Soule" <SSoule@pfclaw.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Slick magneto 500 hour inspection
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stephen J. Soule" <SSoule@pfclaw.com>
>
> Thanks, Steve
>
> Do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Slick magneto 500 hour inspection
>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim" <n144hr@earthlink.net>
>
> Steve -
>
> My cousin is really good at fixxing mags - I'll ask him if he'll do it.
> He's
> a retired helicopter mechanic and lives here at the airpark. Betcha he'll
> do a better job for less money than any shop will (if he will do it - he
> has
> a lot of projects).
>
>
> jim
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: TruTrak with Navaid Servo |
--> RV-List message posted by: "dick martin" <martin@gbonline.com>
Dan,
I have done a considerable amount of test flying for TruTrak in my RV8.
The problem you are describing, suggests a possible "Ground Loop". This is
usually caused by RF emissions from radios etc. The first thing to look at
is the antenna cable. If it is not RG-400 or equivalent, consider changing
them. RG58 etc doesn't provide adequate shielding for modern electronic
equipment.
If this doesn't help, contact Trutrac and ask for help. They will be happy
to discuss you problem and provide a solution. The Navaid servo is not the
problem usually.
Dick Martin
RV8 N233M
the fast one
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan DeNeal" <rv6apilot@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: TruTrak with Navaid Servo
> --> RV-List message posted by: Dan DeNeal <rv6apilot@yahoo.com>
>
> I use this setup in my rv6a and love the Digitrak. I do notice one quark
> though. When I first turn it on, it dips the right wing down and then
> levels it back to where it had been. Something I have to warn my passanger
> about as it is a little disorienting when it happens. Once the wings are
> level again it will follow the GPS 295 heading exactly as programed. I
> have also installed the alititude hold from Digitrak people. Makes for an
> easy cross country flight.
>
> I do not know if it is the combination of the Digitrak and the Navaid
> servo that causes this to dip the wing or whether this is something
> Digitrak just does.
>
> Dan DeNeal
> RV6a N256GD
>
> Ed Holyoke <bicyclop@pacbell.net> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ed Holyoke"
>
>
> Is anybody out there in list land using a TruTrak autopilot head with a
> Navaid servo? Not really happy with the Navaid, thinking about
> upgrading, and the Digitrak is cheaper than the EZ Pilot. Just wondering
> if anybody has tried this combo and how it works.
>
> Pax,
>
> Ed
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: wing installation |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net>
Can someone please take a tape measure to your plane and report the
measurements? 'm not going to use the office chair method. The advice is
good to know. But I've already decided in how I'm going to stabilize the
wings and I need some measurements.
Thanks
Do not archive
> I strongly second the telescoping office chair trick for
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| Subject: | Re: ACS2002 engine monitor system for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
I believe the warranty on the ACS2002 is 1 year from first date of run which
is last, not first.
Indiana Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Dominy" <abqmooney@excite.com>
Subject: RV-List: ACS2002 engine monitor system for sale
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Dominy" <abqmooney@excite.com>
>
> I have a complete ACS 2002 system, never installed for a 4 cyl. Lyc.(or
> clone) with mag RPM sensor and float fuel sending units. It was shipped
> just before the software version 3.0.1 came out. It is (according to AFS)
> completely upgradable to the current AF2500 system by downloading the
> software. Sensors include 4 EGTs, 4 CHTs, OAT, mag RPM sensor, MP, oil
> press, fuel press, fuel flow, current sensor and oil temp (Lycoming). The
> unit shipped in Feb 2005, and the warrantee will be honored until Feb 2006
> or 1 year after 1st run whichever comes first. Currently the units sell
> for $3500+, and I want $3000. If interested email me privately at
> abqmooney@excite.com. Do not archive.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder Spar Doubler Optional Holes |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Hi Mike,
If it is listed as optional to utilize lightening holes Go ahead and remove
the material.
If You later opt for an O-320-??? with a wood prop you won't need or want
the weight back there. Its only an ounce or two but they do add up.
Lets suppose you want to built a 6a with an O-360-A1A and a Hartzell
constant speed prop.
You also wish to install:
A light weight starter (converted Toyota). (5 to 7 pound saving)
A small size 60 amp. ND alternator. (4 to 6 pound saving)
One Lazar II electronic ignition and one Slick Mag. (a pound or two less
overall weght)
The O-360-A1A has an oil filter adapter and of course the filter. (add three
or four pounds)
Odyssey battery inside at firewall. (14+ pounds weight saving)
Control panel;
Dynon D10-a and both Rocky Mountain Instruments for engine and flight
management with steam gage Alt. and A/S allowed the removal of the Vacuum
pump, it's mount and all associated instruments hoses etc. (close to ten
pounds weight reduction)
The electric elevator trim servo is chosen over the manual cable because of
aft weight savings and also cockpit comfort.
You do not stray from vans structural design or instructions on primary
issues. You do however install the two (Dynon and RMI) magnetometers in the
space just ahead of the horizontal stab. (about eight ounces)
Also You add .032 aluminium floors under the rudder pedals which offer added
strength, noise and heat insulation (I think) add about six to eight pounds
of materials.
Again for sound and heat reduction The firewall is insulated with Van's
supplied insulation. (about 1 and 1/2 pounds)
I will leave it to you to do a rough weight and balance calculation on the
above airframe.
In general weight on the nose is easy to add by using the heavier
accessories and the Landoll harmonic balancer mount with or without the
balancer.(The mount weighs about 12 pounds)
I have seen other other nose weights offered. These could add as much as 21
pounds at the prop.
Rearward weight shift can be had by mounting strobe ballasts, battery and
what have you toward the rear (behind the baggage bulkhead)
What I am trying to show is that weight and balance issues are more often
and more effectivly adjusted by accessory choices and their possitioning
rather than risking structural integrity by removing a fairly limited small
amount of metal. If you can reduce overall weight by punching and drilling
holes WITHOUT risking structural integrity issues then why haul the weight
around. DO be careful though!
I'm Told Van seems to think the O-320-??? with a constant speed is the good
choice over all.
I hope this helps somehow,
Jim in Kelowna
----- Original Message -----
From: "wskimike" <wskimike@mchsi.com>
Subject: RV-List: Rudder Spar Doubler Optional Holes
> --> RV-List message posted by: "wskimike" <wskimike@mchsi.com>
>
> Can anyone tell me whether it is better for C/G purposes to cut the holes
> out if your putting a 360 or 320 engine. I know for spin recovery, it is
> better to have a light tail but I don't want an aircraft that is too nose
> heavy ether. All you RV-7A or 6A that went with this option, please give
> me some advise because I haven't decided on which engine to put in the 7A.
>
> Mike Harris, wskimike@mchsi.com
>
>
>
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--> RV-List message posted by: "DonVS" <dsvs@comcast.net>
See the Jan 1, 2003 entry in Dan Checkoway's site. BTW he is the one who
figured out that an office chair works well. The table listing heights is
almost at the bottow of the page. My wings have gone on twice, using a crew
of 5 with no stabaization system. Worked fine.
Don
RV7
N12VS res
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bob Collins
Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: wing installation
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net>
Can someone please take a tape measure to your plane and report the
measurements? 'm not going to use the office chair method. The advice is
good to know. But I've already decided in how I'm going to stabilize the
wings and I need some measurements.
Thanks
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> I strongly second the telescoping office chair trick for
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| Subject: | paint-on ceramic heat shield |
--> RV-List message posted by: sarg314 <sarg314@comcast.net>
Does any one have any experience with this material or something like it?
http://www.bvmjets.com/
Click on "tools & supplies" and then "Heat Shield".
I talked to Bob Violett on the phone about this and it sounds like a
very good insulator. They use it in RC model planes with jet engines
(jet engines in a RC?) to insulate the fiberglass body of the model from
the heat of the jet exhaust. I ordered some to paint on the inside of
my fiberglass cooling plenum. I might use it down by the exhaust pipes
too (under the reflective foil).
I suspect he buys the stuff in bulk from some other company and sells it
under his label. Does any one know what the material actually is? I'm
guessing I could probably get it a lot cheaper from the manufacturer.
--
Tom Sargent, RV-6A, baffles.
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| Subject: | Re: ACS2002 engine monitor system for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ken Dominy" <abqmooney@excite.com>
Maybe I didn't explain it well, but the warranty (as explained to me today by AFS) begins with the first run and lasts for one year, but they give you one year from shipment to install it. My unit has never been installed or run and was shipped in Feb 2005. If it were installed and run tomorrow, the 1 year period would begin tomorrow. But, if it isn't run until April 2006 they will only honor the warranty untill Feb 2006. Sorry if I confused you.Ken--- On Wed 11/16, LarryRobertHelming lhelming@sigecom.net wrote:From: LarryRobertHelming [mailto: lhelming@sigecom.net]To: rv-list@matronics.comDate: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:00:21 -0600Subject: Re: RV-List: ACS2002 engine monitor system for sale-- RV-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" I believe the warranty on the ACS2002 is 1 year from first date of run which is last, not first.Indiana Larry----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Dominy" To: Subject: RV-List: ACS2002 engine monitor system for sale
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| Subject: | RE: OT Top/Bottom Posting |
--> RV-List message posted by: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS" <dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net>
Geez Guys:
I've been on this list quite a while now, have asked quite a few questions
and gotten some great feedback. But lately this trend of threads that are
useless blather and take up the majority of a day's posting is really
getting ridiculous. Those that can spend hours sitting in front of the
computer waiting to respond to these kinds of threads definitely have too
much time on their hands. Why don't you do something productive with your
time like.... fly down to Florida and help me finish my airplane :-)
Dean Psiropoulos do not archive
RV-6A N197DM
So close to first flight....
Time: 10:37:04 AM PST US
From: Kysh <vans-dragon@lapdragon.org>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: OT Top/Bottom Posting
--> RV-List message posted by: Kysh <vans-dragon@lapdragon.org>
As Kelly McMullen was saying:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
>
> Gesh, I can't believe this disagreement here. Just for Kysh's information
> there is no such thing as a standard, and therefore no WRONG Way.
Wrong; There are plenty of standards. Without them, the internet would
not be globally interoperable, and would not exist in any usable state.
It's important to fight for standards for just that reason.
As for quoting, you'll never hear me tell 'anyone' to quote my way.
However, if -I- am told that -I- should be quoting the wrong way, expect
me to reply with an attempt to gently educate the requestor.
-Kysh
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| Subject: | Resurrecting clecos |
--> RV-List message posted by: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS" <dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net>
Dumb question I know:
But...my clecos are about 10 years old now (ya I've been working on it THAT
long). Quite a few of them do not pull back inside the body all the way and
can no longer clamp two pieces of metal tightly together. Some I can grab
the tangs and move back and forth a few 32nds of an inch and some eventually
retract back in all the way if you leave them alone for a few minutes (maybe
they just don't want to be bothered :-)). This is more of a curiosity than
anything but....what exactly is the failure mode (I would guess rusted worn
out springs)? and.....can they be resurrected by immersion in solvent,
penetrating oil or some other elixir? Being the airplane needs very few
clecos at this point it's not a big deal but after spending so much money on
them it's hard to just throw tens of dollars worth of them into the trash
can.
Dean Psiropoulos
RV-6A N197DM
That free panel planning software is really....cool
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| Subject: | Re: Resurrecting clecos |
--> RV-List message posted by: HCRV6@comcast.net
Dean, try putting a drop of oil on them and wirk them a few times. Did wonders
for mine that were getting stickey.
--
Harry Crosby
RV-6 N16CX, 157 hours
> --> RV-List message posted by: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS" <dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net>
>
>
> Dumb question I know:
>
> But...my clecos are about 10 years old now (ya I've been working on it THAT
> long). Quite a few of them do not pull back inside the body all the way and
> can no longer clamp two pieces of metal tightly together. Some I can grab
> the tangs and move back and forth a few 32nds of an inch and some eventually
> retract back in all the way if you leave them alone for a few minutes (maybe
> they just don't want to be bothered :-)). This is more of a curiosity than
> anything but....what exactly is the failure mode (I would guess rusted worn
> out springs)? and.....can they be resurrected by immersion in solvent,
> penetrating oil or some other elixir? Being the airplane needs very few
> clecos at this point it's not a big deal but after spending so much money on
> them it's hard to just throw tens of dollars worth of them into the trash
> can.
>
> Dean Psiropoulos
> RV-6A N197DM
> That free panel planning software is really....cool
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | hangar space at or near Truckee (KTRK) |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Is there any RV-friendly hangar space at or near Truckee-Tahoe (KTRK)?
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
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