Today's Message Index:
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1. 05:20 AM - Re: RV-List Navaid Coupler with Panel Mount GPS (Ron Brown)
2. 05:41 AM - Oil Cooler Issues (Rick Galati)
3. 06:24 AM - Re: Printer labels with white ink (LARRY ADAMSON)
4. 06:31 AM - Re: Oil Cooler Issues (Ron Lee)
5. 06:31 AM - Re: Oil Cooler Issues (Alex Peterson)
6. 06:33 AM - Re: Re: RV-List Navaid Coupler with Panel Mount GPS (Kevin Horton)
7. 07:03 AM - Re: Re: RV-List Navaid Coupler with Panel Mount GPS (James Clark)
8. 07:08 AM - Re: Re: RV-List Navaid Coupler with Panel Mount GPS (RV6 Flyer)
9. 08:57 AM - Re: Re: RV-List Navaid Coupler with Panel Mount GPS (Ron Lee)
10. 09:56 AM - Re: Oil Cooler Issues (Dave & Brenda Emond)
11. 10:04 AM - Titanium Tie Downs (Becki)
12. 10:44 AM - Re: Titanium Tie Downs (Alex Peterson)
13. 12:52 PM - Re: Oil Cooler Issues (Ron Lee)
14. 01:41 PM - Just A Few More Days Left; Lagging Behind Last Year... (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Re: RV-List Navaid Coupler with Panel Mount GPS |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Brown" <romott@adelphia.net>
I got a question yesterday about my Navaid Auto Pilot with Porcine GPS
Coupler and Panel Mounted GPS's.
I got my Garmin 430 to work with my Navaid after getting Porcine's latest
coupler update. The problem is that most panel mounted GPS's do not
transmit the NEMA RS232 data streams that are common to hand held GPS's -
rather they transmit a data stream called "aviation". The Porcine couplers
have worked well with hand held GPS's but not "aviation", that is until the
update that was made in 2004. I got around to getting this update this
summer and IT WORKS! The aviation data stream will need to be set to
"aviation - no altitude".
Ronnie Brown
Velocity N703MR
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| Subject: | Oil Cooler Issues |
--> RV-List message posted by: Rick Galati <rick6a@yahoo.com>
I see that Van's recently added an oil cooler vent to its fine stable of catalog accessories. http://tinyurl.com/cc2ay
This suggests to me that my Lyc. equipped 6A is not alone in experiencing cooler
than desired oil temps. During the summer, even with ground temps flirting with
100 degrees, my stock baffle mounted oil cooler installation stabilized the
engine temperature at 170 degrees.
I added a "partial plate" to the rear of the cooler and managed to increase the
temp to 180 degrees...the recommended temperature as published in the Lycoming
operating manual.
Now, with much colder weather upon us, I had to block the rear surface of the oil
cooler completely off with a "full plate," yet the engine temperature only
rose to 154 degrees during a 40 minute recent flight. I then blocked off nearly
1/5 or so of the total forward surface area of the oil cooler with steel tape
just to bring the temp up back up to 178 degrees.
I happily ordered the new catalog accessory item and hopefully, its installation
will finally resolve those vexing cooling issues.
I'm curious as to how prevalent the problem really is. Anybody else on this forum
experience similiar cooling issues? After all, I know the new vent wasn't designed
with just my particular RV in mind.
Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla"
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| Subject: | Re: Printer labels with white ink |
--> RV-List message posted by: "LARRY ADAMSON" <rvhi03@msn.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Dowling
Subject: Re: RV-List: Printer labels with white ink
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Dowling" <shempdowling2@earthlink.net>
>How about using clear with black ink? You can buy it in standard 8.5 x 11
>sheets at any office supply store and print in your own printer. I copied
>this from someone else and it works great. Once it gets a little old, just
>pull it off and use a new one.
And I spray my inkjet printer decals with a clear spray can sealer afterwards.
They look good, and are easy to copy extras for future use.
I've used black as well as other colors for a few, and some have borders. I have
a gray panel, and even used a gray fill-in color to hide a scratch under the
lettered decal.
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Cooler Issues |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>I see that Van's recently added an oil cooler vent to its fine stable of
>catalog accessories. http://tinyurl.com/cc2ay
>
>This suggests to me that my Lyc. equipped 6A is not alone in experiencing
>cooler than desired oil temps. During the summer, even with ground temps
>flirting with 100 degrees, my stock baffle mounted oil cooler installation
>stabilized the engine temperature at 170 degrees.
I had a problem with too hot oil temps this summer. That was corrected by
improving the air exit flow. Now my oil temps are running slightly low so I
am considering such an oil cooler airflow restriction device. Take good Before
and after data so we can decide if it is worth it.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Oil Cooler Issues |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Rick Galati <rick6a@yahoo.com>
>
> I see that Van's recently added an oil cooler vent to its
> fine stable of catalog accessories. http://tinyurl.com/cc2ay
>
> This suggests to me that my Lyc. equipped 6A is not alone in
> experiencing cooler than desired oil temps. During the
> summer, even with ground temps flirting with 100 degrees, my
> stock baffle mounted oil cooler installation stabilized the
> engine temperature at 170 degrees.
>
SNIP
> I'm curious as to how prevalent the problem really is.
> Anybody else on this forum experience similiar cooling
> issues? After all, I know the new vent wasn't designed with
> just my particular RV in mind.
>
> Rick Galati RV-6A "Darla"
Rick,
I put a throttle in the 3" scat leading to my firewall mounted cooler in my
O360 RV6A. I can control this with a knob on the panel. The only time I
see oil temps above about 190F is during a long climb in hot weather. When
OAT's are in the -10 to 40F range, I throttle the cooling air. (I don't fly
colder than -10F!) Anyway, when I don't throttle the oil cooler, temps
don't get above about 140 or less. Yesterday, I made use of the throttle
several times, as the ground temps were about 20F, while at altitude the OAT
was around 45F.
I can't speak to the effectiveness of Van's new kit, but some throttling is
generally necessary for anyone flying in the winter. Most RVers here put
plates or tape on and off each season - yesterday was an example of how big
a pain that can be.
Alex Peterson
RV6-A N66AP 694 hours
Maple Grove, MN
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| Subject: | Re: RV-List Navaid Coupler with Panel Mount GPS |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
On 27 Nov 2005, at 08:17, Ron Brown wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Brown" <romott@adelphia.net>
>
> I got a question yesterday about my Navaid Auto Pilot with Porcine GPS
> Coupler and Panel Mounted GPS's.
>
> I got my Garmin 430 to work with my Navaid after getting Porcine's
> latest
> coupler update. The problem is that most panel mounted GPS's do not
> transmit the NEMA RS232 data streams that are common to hand held
> GPS's -
> rather they transmit a data stream called "aviation". The Porcine
> couplers
> have worked well with hand held GPS's but not "aviation", that is
> until the
> update that was made in 2004. I got around to getting this update
> this
> summer and IT WORKS! The aviation data stream will need to be set to
> "aviation - no altitude".
I had thought it was possible to get the Navaid to work with the CDI
output from the GNS430. At least that is what I hope to do, whenever
I get my RV-8 flying. Is this not possible?
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
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| Subject: | Re: RV-List Navaid Coupler with Panel Mount GPS |
--> RV-List message posted by: James Clark <jclarkmail@gmail.com>
Kevin I was able to couple our KMD 150 (MFD with internal GPS) CDI output to
the Navaid autopilot and have it work.
You need to be pretty much on course or it will take a while "hunting". Of
course there may be some more gain adjustments that I need to do but the
bottom line is it does work.
Let me know if you need me to look up any details on it as tplane was
finished at the end of 2002.
James
RV6
599 hours
On 11/27/05, Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com> wrote:
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
>
> On 27 Nov 2005, at 08:17, Ron Brown wrote:
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Brown" <romott@adelphia.net>
> >
> > I got a question yesterday about my Navaid Auto Pilot with Porcine GPS
> > Coupler and Panel Mounted GPS's.
> >
> > I got my Garmin 430 to work with my Navaid after getting Porcine's
> > latest
> > coupler update. The problem is that most panel mounted GPS's do not
> > transmit the NEMA RS232 data streams that are common to hand held
> > GPS's -
> > rather they transmit a data stream called "aviation". The Porcine
> > couplers
> > have worked well with hand held GPS's but not "aviation", that is
> > until the
> > update that was made in 2004. I got around to getting this update
> > this
> > summer and IT WORKS! The aviation data stream will need to be set to
> > "aviation - no altitude".
>
> I had thought it was possible to get the Navaid to work with the CDI
> output from the GNS430. At least that is what I hope to do, whenever
> I get my RV-8 flying. Is this not possible?
>
> Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
> Ottawa, Canada
> http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-List Navaid Coupler with Panel Mount GPS |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV6 Flyer" <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
Kevin:
Been working for 3 years with by GX60 connected to the CDI output. I did
need to program the GX60 to be 0.3 mile full scale deflection to get
acceptable tracking results.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
1,818 + Flying Hours So. CA, USA
http://SoCAL_WVAF.rvproject.com
----Original Message Follows----
From: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: RV-List Navaid Coupler with Panel Mount GPS
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
I had thought it was possible to get the Navaid to work with the CDI
output from the GNS430. At least that is what I hope to do, whenever
I get my RV-8 flying. Is this not possible?
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
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| Subject: | Re: RV-List Navaid Coupler with Panel Mount GPS |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>I had thought it was possible to get the Navaid to work with the CDI
>output from the GNS430. At least that is what I hope to do, whenever
>I get my RV-8 flying. Is this not possible?
>
>Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Kevin, I have an EZ-pilot and GNS 430. You need the output of pin 56 and
the output setup as follows:
SETUP PROCEDURES:
1. CONFIGURE THE OUTPUT AS FOLLOWS:
A. ENTER THE SETUP MODE BY PRESSING AND HOLDING THE "ENT" KEY
WHILE TURNING ON POWER
B. SELECT THE "MAIN RS-232 CONFIG" PAGE
C. SET THE CHANNEL 1 OUTPUT FIELD TO "AVIATION"
I will send a file to you that documents this. Navaid may be different so ask
the right person.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Cooler Issues |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dave & Brenda Emond" <d_emond@mweb.co.za>
Hi Ron
Would be interested to here what you did??
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Lee" <ronlee@pcisys.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Oil Cooler Issues
> --> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>
>
>>I see that Van's recently added an oil cooler vent to its fine stable of
>>catalog accessories. http://tinyurl.com/cc2ay
>>
>>This suggests to me that my Lyc. equipped 6A is not alone in experiencing
>>cooler than desired oil temps. During the summer, even with ground temps
>>flirting with 100 degrees, my stock baffle mounted oil cooler installation
>>stabilized the engine temperature at 170 degrees.
>
>
> I had a problem with too hot oil temps this summer. That was corrected by
> improving the air exit flow. Now my oil temps are running slightly low so
> I
> am considering such an oil cooler airflow restriction device. Take good
> Before
> and after data so we can decide if it is worth it.
>
> Ron Lee
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Titanium Tie Downs |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Becki" <becki@fly-gbi.com>
Just wondered if anyone knows anything about Randy Simpson who sells the titanium
tie downs. We've been trying to get him for a month now via phone and email.
We've paid for our tie downs over a month ago through Pay Pal and no response
and no tie downs. Sure would like to get some tie downs! Thanks for any
help!
Becki Orndorff
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| Subject: | Titanium Tie Downs |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Alex Peterson" <alexpeterson@earthlink.net>
Becki, check the archives. This problem has been ongoing for months if not
years.
Alex Peterson
RV6-A N66AP 694 hours
Maple Grove, MN
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Becki" <becki@fly-gbi.com>
>
> Just wondered if anyone knows anything about Randy
> Simpson who sells the titanium tie downs. We've been trying
> to get him for a month now via phone and email. We've paid
> for our tie downs over a month ago through Pay Pal and no
> response and no tie downs. Sure would like to get some tie
> downs! Thanks for any help!
>
> Becki Orndorff
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Cooler Issues |
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--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>Hi Ron
>
>Would be interested to hear what you did??
First thing I did was to \remove the cabin heat tubes that went
down to one heat muff..across the air exit path to another heatmuff
than back across to the inlet. That created resistance to air
leaving the bottom cowl.
Improvement about 6-8 deg C
Then I cut open the outer portion of the middle area of the lower cowl
around the exhaust...about 3-4 inches. About the same cooling
improvement.
Finally I added louvers on the bottom...same improvement.
After all three oil temps are no longer an issue. Somewhere I documented
the improvement with each change so the numbers above are best recollection.
Fact is that the high oil temp problem is gone and now I may need to put a
cooling air restriction device for winter ops.
Louver info here:
http://www.attawayair.com/rv6a.htm
This picture shows my louver and the opened area around the exhaust
after my plane was painted a manly navy blue:
http://home.pcisys.net/~ronlee/RV6A/Cowl_Louver_Small.jpg
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Just A Few More Days Left; Lagging Behind Last Year... |
--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
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