Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:16 AM - Last "Official" Day To Make Your List Contribution!! (Matt Dralle)
2. 07:15 AM - Fw: tie downs (Becki)
3. 07:21 AM - Telex TC200 Intercom Users Manual Needed ()
4. 10:51 AM - RV 8A For Sale (Robert E. Lynch)
5. 11:22 AM - RV-8 kit for sale (Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club)
6. 12:37 PM - Re: RV 8A For Sale (Ron Lee)
7. 02:11 PM - hangar space needed - Colorado Front Range (Grenwis@aol.com)
8. 02:11 PM - Just ordered my Wings!! (Smitty)
9. 03:09 PM - Re: Fw: tie downs (Kevin Horton)
10. 03:55 PM - Re: Fw: tie downs (Sam Buchanan)
11. 04:09 PM - Re: Fw: tie downs (Paul Besing)
12. 04:38 PM - Re: hangar space needed - Colorado Front Range (Ron Lee)
13. 04:43 PM - Re: Just ordered my Wings!! (Tim Bryan)
14. 04:46 PM - Re: Fw: tie downs (Ron Lee)
15. 05:04 PM - Re: RV-8 kit for sale..... ooops RV8A (Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club)
16. 06:05 PM - Re: Fw: tie downs (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
17. 06:07 PM - Re: Titanium Tie Downs (Mike Kraus)
18. 06:35 PM - Re: Fw: tie downs (Dayton Murdock)
19. 06:54 PM - Re: Fw: tie downs (DonVS)
20. 07:14 PM - Re: Fw: tie downs (Mark Grieve)
21. 07:45 PM - Re: Fw: tie downs (linn walters)
22. 08:03 PM - Re: hangar space needed - Colorado Front Range (Flynlow)
23. 08:04 PM - Re: Off -Topic: Traffic Patterns @ Private Aiports (H.Ivan Haecker)
24. 09:36 PM - Re: Fw: tie downs (Chris W)
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| Subject: | Last "Official" Day To Make Your List Contribution!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
Well, its November 30th and that means three things...
1) Today I am officially 42 years old (sympathy is appreciated)!
2) It marks that last "official" day of the List Fund Raiser!
3) Its the last day I will be bugging everyone for a whole year! :-)
If you use the Lists and enjoy the content and the no-advertising,
no-spam, and no-censorship way in which they're run, please make a
Contribution today to support their continued operation and
upkeep. Your $20 or $30 goes a long way to further the List
operation and keep the bills paid.
A Lister wrote a funny message in the comments field of his
Contribution that I thought summed things up pretty well:
"Worth every penny and I'm a tightwad!"
Thank you to everyone that has made a Contribution so far this
year! It is greatly appreciated.
Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Becki" <becki@fly-gbi.com>
I am forwarding this message for Terry.
----- Original Message -----
From: Terry Allen
Subject: tie downs
Becky....I have been trying to track this guy. He is getting a lot of peoples
money and not providing product. He even sent me an email that said he would
send it in a week...just long enough so that PAYPAL would not cover the loss.
I have posted on the VANS AIRFORCE forum that he is not providing the product
and ripping people off....I tried to get it on this site however for some reason
I cannot register. I have kept my email inquiries to Randy and no response...If
you could please post to this list and let people know that they will not
receive any product. There are many others who have been ripped off....sorry
Terry
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| Subject: | Telex TC200 Intercom Users Manual Needed |
--> RV-List message posted by: <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
Does anyone have a copy of the manual for this portable intercom? Telex doesn't
have it available any more and I can't find one on Google.
Charlie Kuss
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Robert E. Lynch" <rv6lynch@earthlink.net>
I have a new RV 8A that's ready to go to the paintshop. If interested, help me
select the color.
Contact:
rv6lynch@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | RV-8 kit for sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
I'll keep it short and sweet. I am only posting this on this list. Feel
free to copy and cross post it if you will.
Wick's aircraft is selling their partially completed RV8. I think the
workmanship was pretty good on it, at least the last time I looked at
it, it was.
take a look here.......
www.wicksaircraft.com/Wicks/Pages/Projects/RV8A_FOR_SALE.php
If you talk with Scott Wick, mention my name, he said he would give me
some credit in the store if it sold as a result of me...
Phil in Litchfield, IL
We are going to have an RV flyin here
http://www.litchfieldil.com/airport/ next Spring or Summer. Be
thinking about it. Suggestions appreciated on having a good 2 or 3 day
flyin. Volunteers would also be needed and appreciated... We will
probably get some financial help from the Airport Authority.
If you are passing through, check out our fuel price and stop in....
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| Subject: | Re: RV 8A For Sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
At 11:50 AM 11/30/2005, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Robert E. Lynch" <rv6lynch@earthlink.net>
>
>I have a new RV 8A that's ready to go to the paintshop. If interested,
>help me select the color.
Stay away from purple.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | hangar space needed - Colorado Front Range |
--> RV-List message posted by: Grenwis@aol.com
I'd like to get hangar space for my RV-6A at either Erie/Tri-county (48V),
Longmont (2V2), Boulder (1V5), or Jeffco (BJC). The waiting lists are more
than one year at two of those. Anybody with space they could sub-lease or with
ideas to beat the system? Thanks in advance.
Rick Grenwis
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| Subject: | Just ordered my Wings!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Smitty" <smitty@smittysrv.com>
Hi Guys,
I just ordered my wings for my RV-9A. Here's a fun photo I made to
celebrate the occasion:
http://smittysrv.com/photos/OrderedTheWings.jpg
Smitty
http://SmittysRV.com
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: tie downs |
--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Terry Allen
> To: becki@fly-gbi.com
> Subject: tie downs
>
>
> Becky....I have been trying to track this guy. He is getting a lot
> of peoples money and not providing product. He even sent me an
> email that said he would send it in a week...just long enough so
> that PAYPAL would not cover the loss. I have posted on the VANS
> AIRFORCE forum that he is not providing the product and ripping
> people off....I tried to get it on this site however for some
> reason I cannot register. I have kept my email inquiries to Randy
> and no response...If you could please post to this list and let
> people know that they will not receive any product. There are many
> others who have been ripped off....sorry
>
If he has genuiely taken people's money and not delivered the product
when he said he would, then people should push PayPal harder. They
have a dispute resolution process. Failing that, if the payment was
made via a credit card, the credit card company may have a way to get
your money back.
If there are several people that have paid for the Ti-Downs, and not
received them, and they have used all reasonable means to contact
Randy Simpson, then I am prepared to put a notice on my web site
warning people about the problem. My site ranks fairly high on
Google, so I think it could be effective in warning some people to be
careful.
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: tie downs |
--> RV-List message posted by: Sam Buchanan <sbuc@hiwaay.net>
Kevin Horton wrote:
<snip>
> If there are several people that have paid for the Ti-Downs, and not
> received them, and they have used all reasonable means to contact
> Randy Simpson, then I am prepared to put a notice on my web site
> warning people about the problem. My site ranks fairly high on
> Google, so I think it could be effective in warning some people to be
> careful.
Kevin, I have pulled the Product Review of the Ti-Downs from my site.
The review was formerly linked on Randy's site and he used the article
as a primary source of advertising.
But no more.......sad........
Sam Buchanan
http://thervjournal.com
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: tie downs |
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
I just don't get it. Randy is a nice guy. A little
excentric, but generally a nice guy. I shared a booth
with him at Oshkosh a few years back. I don't think
he is inentionally frauding people, I just don't think
he can keep up with demand. His tie downs are a work
of art, and they take several hours each to make.
Paul Besing
--- Kevin Horton <khorton01@rogers.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton
> <khorton01@rogers.com>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Terry Allen
> > To: becki@fly-gbi.com
> > Subject: tie downs
> >
> >
> > Becky....I have been trying to track this guy. He
> is getting a lot
> > of peoples money and not providing product. He
> even sent me an
> > email that said he would send it in a week...just
> long enough so
> > that PAYPAL would not cover the loss. I have
> posted on the VANS
> > AIRFORCE forum that he is not providing the
> product and ripping
> > people off....I tried to get it on this site
> however for some
> > reason I cannot register. I have kept my email
> inquiries to Randy
> > and no response...If you could please post to this
> list and let
> > people know that they will not receive any
> product. There are many
> > others who have been ripped off....sorry
> >
> If he has genuiely taken people's money and not
> delivered the product
> when he said he would, then people should push
> PayPal harder. They
> have a dispute resolution process. Failing that, if
> the payment was
> made via a credit card, the credit card company may
> have a way to get
> your money back.
>
> If there are several people that have paid for the
> Ti-Downs, and not
> received them, and they have used all reasonable
> means to contact
> Randy Simpson, then I am prepared to put a notice on
> my web site
> warning people about the problem. My site ranks
> fairly high on
> Google, so I think it could be effective in warning
> some people to be
> careful.
>
> Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
> Ottawa, Canada
> http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
>
>
>
> Click on
> about
> provided
> www.buildersbooks.com,
> Admin.
> _->
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
>
>
>
>
>
__________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: hangar space needed - Colorado Front Range |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>I'd like to get hangar space for my RV-6A at either Erie/Tri-county (48V),
>Longmont (2V2), Boulder (1V5), or Jeffco (BJC).
I don't like this one bit. Rick has been a great RVer here at Meadowlake
for a year or so now and I am not happy to see him leave. Do not take
this as a mushy sentimental notion. If he leaves then the other RVers
will make fun of me more often.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re: Just ordered my Wings!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <flyrv6@bryantechnology.com>
Cute!
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-------Original Message-------
From: Smitty
Subject: RV-List: Just ordered my Wings!!
--> RV-List message posted by: "Smitty" <smitty@smittysrv.com>
Hi Guys,
I just ordered my wings for my RV-9A. Here's a fun photo I made to
celebrate the occasion:
http://smittysrv.com/photos/OrderedTheWings.jpg
Smitty
http://SmittysRV.com
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: tie downs |
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>I just don't get it. Randy is a nice guy. A little
>excentric, but generally a nice guy. I shared a booth
>with him at Oshkosh a few years back. I don't think
>he is inentionally frauding people, I just don't think
>he can keep up with demand. His tie downs are a work
>of art, and they take several hours each to make.
Then he could easily make it known that the estimated
delivery time is X period. If I knew it would take a month
I could either not buy them or wait the required time.
BTW I do have a set.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re: RV-8 kit for sale..... ooops RV8A |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Phil Sisson, Litchfield Aerobatic Club" <sisson@consolidated.net>
>
>I'll keep it short and sweet. I am only posting this on this list. Feel
>free to copy and cross post it if you will.
>
>Wick's aircraft is selling their partially completed RV8. I think the
>workmanship was pretty good on it, at least the last time I looked at
>it, it was.
>
>take a look here.......
>www.wicksaircraft.com/Wicks/Pages/Projects/RV8A_FOR_SALE.php
>
>If you talk with Scott Wick, mention my name, he said he would give me
>some credit in the store if it sold as a result of me...
>
>Phil in Litchfield, IL
>
>We are going to have an RV flyin here
> http://www.litchfieldil.com/airport/ next Spring or Summer. Be
>thinking about it. Suggestions appreciated on having a good 2 or 3 day
>flyin. Volunteers would also be needed and appreciated... We will
>probably get some financial help from the Airport Authority.
>
>If you are passing through, check out our fuel price and stop in....
>
>
Actually it is an RV 8A.........
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: tie downs |
--> RV-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
What a cryin' shame- I love my Ti-downs and wish I could buy the stuff he
uses to make these- I could sure use something to do in my impending
"retirement"! Randy? Talk to me!
Mark - do not archive
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| Subject: | Titanium Tie Downs |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Mike Kraus" <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
Tooks lots of repeated e-mails and phone calls with no luck until one
day I got a response from him and after 10 days I had them... They are
very nice and they were worth the wait, but I too was afraid I had been
taken.... Keep trying!!
-Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Becki
Subject: RV-List: Titanium Tie Downs
--> RV-List message posted by: "Becki" <becki@fly-gbi.com>
Just wondered if anyone knows anything about Randy Simpson who sells
the titanium tie downs. We've been trying to get him for a month now via
phone and email. We've paid for our tie downs over a month ago through
Pay Pal and no response and no tie downs. Sure would like to get some
tie downs! Thanks for any help!
Becki Orndorff
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: tie downs |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dayton Murdock" <djmmfg@charter.net>
Hi All
Is it possible to get a image of what these tie downs look like? My shop can
weld or machine titanium.
Dayton
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--> RV-List message posted by: "DonVS" <dsvs@comcast.net>
Mine took 3 monyhs to arrive. I left him a voice mail that said I was
turning him in to pay pal as non responsive. He called me a week after that
ans sent the tiedows about three week laterr. I think that he is just very
disorganized. If you wait long enough you will get the product, proviving
that Randy has not totally forgotten your order. Don
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ron Lee
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fw: tie downs
--> RV-List message posted by: Ron Lee <ronlee@pcisys.net>
>I just don't get it. Randy is a nice guy. A little
>excentric, but generally a nice guy. I shared a booth
>with him at Oshkosh a few years back. I don't think
>he is inentionally frauding people, I just don't think
>he can keep up with demand. His tie downs are a work
>of art, and they take several hours each to make.
Then he could easily make it known that the estimated
delivery time is X period. If I knew it would take a month
I could either not buy them or wait the required time.
BTW I do have a set.
Ron Lee
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: tie downs |
Received-SPF: pass (mail.outfitters.com: 64.6.9.79 is whitelisted) receiver=mail.outfitters.com; client-ip=64.6.9.79; helo=[64.6.9.79]; envelope-from=mark@macomb.com; x-software=spfmilter 0.97 http://www.acme.com/software/spfmilter/ with libspf2-1.0.0;
--> RV-List message posted by: Mark Grieve <mark@macomb.com>
Dayton Murdock wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dayton Murdock" <djmmfg@charter.net>
>
>Hi All
>
>Is it possible to get a image of what these tie downs look like? My shop can
>weld or machine titanium.
>
>Dayton
>
>
>
>
Try this page.
http://www.airtimemfg.com/
I think there is a market, go for it! I thought about going into
business myself.
MG
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: tie downs |
--> RV-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
Mark Grieve wrote:
>Try this page.
>http://www.airtimemfg.com/
>I think there is a market, go for it! I thought about going into
>business myself.
>MG
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>
I checked out the web site and saw what looked like (to me anyway)
titanium doggy stakes for $80. They are light though!!!
Here's some pics of my homemade tiedowns. A lot cheaper and more
compact when stored. No charge, and I'm NOT going into the tiedown
business!!!
Those are 12" steel nails from the hardware store and pieces of scrap
aluminum I had laying around. They're heavier than the titanium
tiedowns, but would be a lot lighter if you used aluminum nails. The
only unsafe part of manufacture is angling the holes where the nails go
through. Filing a slot would be safer than angling the plate on the
drill bit!!! I couldn't find the aluminum nails when I needed to make
up a set and just keep using the steel nails. Bundle the nails
together, put the plates between the nails and wrap the ropes around the
bundle.
Linn
This is one tiedown.
How the nails go through the plate.
assembled like you would use as a tiedown.
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| Subject: | hangar space needed - Colorado Front Range |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Flynlow" <flynlow@usaviator.net>
I know its a long ways, but the guy I rent from is building new hanars at
Meadow Lake near Colorado Springs.
Bud Silvers
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Grenwis@aol.com
Subject: RV-List: hangar space needed - Colorado Front Range
--> RV-List message posted by: Grenwis@aol.com
I'd like to get hangar space for my RV-6A at either Erie/Tri-county (48V),
Longmont (2V2), Boulder (1V5), or Jeffco (BJC). The waiting lists are more
than one year at two of those. Anybody with space they could sub-lease or
with
ideas to beat the system? Thanks in advance.
Rick Grenwis
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| Subject: | Re: Off -Topic: Traffic Patterns @ Private Aiports |
--> RV-List message posted by: "H.Ivan Haecker" <baremetl@gvtc.com>
Thanks to all who chose to respond to my query both on and off list. Like so
many things in aviation (and the rest of life), there isn't always a
clear-cut answer. But it was fun reading all the responses. Thanks!
Ivan
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> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: H.Ivan Haecker
> Date: 11/28/05 19:23:25
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Off -Topic: Traffic Patterns @ Private Aiports
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "H.Ivan Haecker" <baremetl@gvtc.com>
>
> The following is not RV specific. Delete now if this offends you.
>
> The HOA at a residential airport where I have purchased property wants to
> keep traffic on one side of the runway. So the pattern in one direction
will
> be right-handed (non-conventional). My question(s) to those knowledgeable
on
> the subject are:
>
> 1) Does an HOA as the owner of an airport have control over a traffic
> pattern?
>
> 2) Does any airport that is privately owned have such control? I see many
> open-to the-public but privately owned airports with notations on
Sectional
> charts for right traffic on certain runways. I have yet to see this on a
> Sectional chart for private runways.
>
> 3) If a runway is uncontrolled, can't you fly any pattern you deem
> appropriate (albeit at the risk of safety and the risk of irate people on
> the ground when you land!)
>
> Curious minds want to know. I don't have a beef with anyone over anything
I
> am just interested.
>
> Ivan Haecker -4 1209 hrs. S. Cen. TX
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: tie downs |
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net>
Dayton Murdock wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Dayton Murdock" <djmmfg@charter.net>
>
>Hi All
>
>Is it possible to get a image of what these tie downs look like? My shop can
>weld or machine titanium.
>
>
But can you bend it? That is how he makes them I believe.
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Chris W
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